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G1 Successors..

So I have been casually been browsing around off and on for the past few months for a rocking follow up phone to the G1.. Don't get me wrong- I absolutely love my G1. Ask anyone who knows me, I love it and it loves me. Nothing like owning the original android, and plus its a stellar phone. I looove the keyboard, there isnt another like it other there. It's just I havent been able to settle on a great daily ROM that is extremely stable, with good battery life and is snappy.
So I thought I would share my findings in my conquests to find some phones that us G1 fanatics could buy once we decide to put down our heavenly G1's.
1. Obviously first off there is the "G2". A great phone I might actually get once I finally part ways with the G1.
I was browsing Tmobile's site today and found another sweet quasi-G1 phone that are yet to release!
2. The Tmobile Sidekick 4G looks like it might be the first sidekick whose execution follows through on a cool phone concept. The keyboard looks very spacious and much like the G1 and plus its got the whole flip screen idea which seems kinda neat to me.. http://sidekick.t-mobile.com/
Feel free everyone to add any comments or any other phones that you think might fulfill a g1 user's dreams for the a future phone..

It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg

Desire Z would be the real successor.

river-dragon said:
It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg
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Dang, that HTC Vision does indeed look pretty slick. The keyboard looks like and spacey; I hate the keyboards that are cramped..
Here is an image of the HTC/Tmobile G2. And official Site here Great Review of it Here; I think it looks amazing!!
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flyboyovyick said:
Desire Z would be the real successor.
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Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?

austriker27 said:
Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?
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It is not different except slightly with regard to the software on it. Also the compatible frequency set. If you're reading these forums, then the software it ships with doesn't matter to you to begin with.
BOTH are HTC VISION -- that is the real name of the hardware.
That samsung "sidekick" thing looks very similar in spec to the VISION. A couple of things to be aware of... samsung is known for poor quality "feel" (i.e., they feel cheap and plasticy), has had SEVERE problems with things like GPS.
Given the similarities in specs, you KNOW that the HTC VISION has been totally owned (you can take a brand new one from tmobile and run "gfree" on it and it instantly becomes full hardware and radio unlocked). The samsung is still an unknown quantity and a risk. Go with what is known. The VISION is an excellent phone and a worthy successor to the DREAM.
Note: I see that your carrier is ATT... you would be better off buying one from BELL CANADA than from tmobile because of frequency selection.

I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol

MacaroryMax said:
I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol
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haha, yea I guess 'officially' you are right..

dhkr: Yea I was reading reviews, and heard pretty much the same thing about the sidekick.. The sidekicks always kind of 'appealed' to me, but now I think I am moving on past the 'cool' phone stage and looking at phones that are function based/pro (ie the G2).
Actually I will be getting a new plan come may so I might go with another carrier- we will see.. Gosh I keep lusting over the G2; it looks like wicked! Although I just recently rerooted my G1 and cant get enough of it; the original android = AWESOME!
I was just kind of posting this more for people to get informed about possible phones they could buy after their g1; phones similar to the g1. (rather than a 'what should i buy?' thread).. thanks for the input!

Agreed...Sidekick looks great, but I have had a long experience of reliability with my HTC phones...it would be hard to go past the G2/Desire Z

I had been looking quite closely at these phones. At first I really liked the Desire Z. I wanted one just by looking at it. I wouldn't have gotten rid of the G1 very easily though.
I'm changing my trail of thought though. I'm starting to look ahead to the XPERIA Pro. (Can't post a link, can't edit the post until after 5 minutes... getting tired of these forum restrictions. :/) I think this would be my G1 successor... maybe. I don't think I could afford this when it is properly released here until it becomes an average phone that's not capable of the latest software demands, but I'd damn sure love one of those in silver right now!

Thanks for the input, and I would agree that the xerpia pro looks very nice. At first glance it seems like it might be a bit flimsy; gosh those htc phones just have such a pro/smooth look.
Here are a few links for the Xerpia Pro and photos .. (sucks about the forum restrictions chocolate columbo, just keep posting!)
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Looking spiffy but on first glance I might still prefer the G2.

Nobody wants the g2x? (Basically a stock Froyo version of the optimus 2x. Coming out on the 20th i believe.
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well, although that phone looks rad, it does not really match the features we g1 lovers like.. mainly an awesome physical keyboard. I think I prefer the G2's maker (htc) over g2x (low build quality LG).

Being a g1 owner atm I do appreciate having a physical keyboard over touchscreen typing,however I'm sick of having smaller screens just cuz I prefer the latter. I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick. Ffs I love my fat g1 with extended 2300mah/bigger back cover to boot, I've never dropped it and its always comfortable holding it to type novels like this one or even play emulators on. I guess my main gripe is why nobody has yet to make an 4.3 inch slide out qwerty phone(closest being the epic,but samsung is fail!) My next phone will be the g2x I'm sick of waiting for my dream phone and hearing that cyanogen tweeted g2x is his next personal phone its really a no brainer for anyone that enjoys a stock android experience with tons of mods to come. To hell with the physical keyboard,G2x here I come!
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d12unk13astard said:
I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick
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I completely agree- it is very annoying to hear people bash the g1 without even trying it out. So once we have a type-off I can completely dominate them. People need to stop being so obsessed with the size/thickness of a phone. Please people, build quality, and functionality is way more important.
As far as screen size, yea sometimes the smallness of the g1 bothers me. I am stoked to upgrade to a g2 soon though because its a wee bit bigger of a screen

I've adapted to those comments. As you well know, even as big as it is considered, the practicality of the G1 will still outweigh a large majority of phones being made now.
As much as I love it, it is an old phone and it does show. People are going to be more impressed by weight, immediate GUI interface and screen size than much else.

I've had my G1 for a little over two years now. I could've upgraded back in December but that was a very slow time for phone releases. All the fastest phones had been out a while and nothing good had been announced for the near future. As soon as I found out they were releasing the G2X I knew what phone I was going to buy. I loved the G1 for it's stock UI, the keyboard, trackball, and all the dev support it got/gets. I have been feeling that the G1 is not enough for me anymore with it's dated hardware and (sorry for bringing up size) relatively large size compared to current phones. This thing just looks like a dinosaur and feels like I'm riding a bicycle when everyone's driving Corvettes. I'm very picky about what I want in a phone now and honestly the only thing I think the G2x is missing for my own taste is a track ball/pad. But considering I'm going to a 4" screen from a 3.2" I know I won't have a problem. Also, I'm an Nvidia fanboy .

Yes, good point about the trackball. I looooove my trackball, it makes scrolling so painless. But I agree that its hardware is very much dinosauresque which is why I am looking to upgrade.

I think the G2 is one of the best bets... the only problem I have with it is how old the tech is considering duel-core phones are cutting edge now.
For me... I'm thinking of the HTC Sensation.

GS3 vs One X - Can you handle the Truth?

The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
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Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
Touchwiz was one of the first if not the first to implement hardware acceleration and is one of the smoothest most resource friendly launchers. Back with gingerbread, touchwiz browser was pure butter....one of the smoothest i've ever used and definitely still one of the smoothest i've used. It's also battery efficient etc....
Sense on the otherhand is a resource hog, not very battery friendly, and mostly just looks good. Touchwiz is ugly, but there's a huge dev community for the galaxy phones so getting rid of it and flashing AOSP or anything was super simple.
As for user friendly, touchwiz is probably one of the simplest to use. Also looks kinda like iOS buttons which might help a bit but w/e. In terms of out of the box performance, samsung software > HTC software
- PewPewBangBang One X Owner
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- Anandtech Bench -
What surprises me in these benchmarks is how close the GS2 performs to the One X. Disappointing on One X' part if you ask me.
As we showed in our SGS3 performance preview, the handset is, as Samsung described it, capable of posting "superlative" benchmark numbers with its 1.4 GHz Exynos 4 Quad SoC. It goes without saying that even with TouchWiz running atop Android 4.0.4, the SGS3 is butter smooth, everywhere. - Anandtech
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June can't come soon enough!

boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
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The One X has been in available around the world for a month now, and none of those are mass reported problems. Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
I like the screen on the One X over my Note (same amoled as SIII), the colour are more accurate and its much brighter in direct sunlight. As for CPU/GPU, both are more than powerful enough to make no difference for day to day use.
Overall, apart from removable battery and micro sd card, SIII and One X are too very close to call. I think both phone will do well over the next few months. The SIII is more suited to the power users, but One X have the WOW factor the SIII lacks, which will do will with general public who don't really care about removable battery or expendable storage.

Bigmille said:
Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
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No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Proven Exynos CPU and Video Player Both made in-house by Samsung for superior cooperation.
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^

Threads like this remind me a little bit about Top Gear, where they say a car can't be cool if you have to explain WHY it's cool.
With the one x, you can just show it to someone, and they will be "wow, that's cool". With the SGS3, they will think it looks ugly/bland but may be won over after you spend 5 mins telling/showing them why it's cool.
And yes, phones are all about being cool
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boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^
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The htc one x is a pos.
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diehard2222 said:
The htc one x is a pos.
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It's not a POS that's for sure. But there are some real issues and I don't think people should ignore them. Lets keep things a little more pro brother lol.

The rattling sound that people complain about is when they press a button and it vibrates. They think the sound of the vibration is a rattle
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*Closes eyes and shakes head* -Noooo! Now you're ruining my world! I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

boodies said:
The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
- Anandtech Bench -
June can't come soon enough!
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The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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If I get a SIII I hope I don't have to see useless threads like this in this forum for the next year.

Thread will be closed i am sure in a while..These threads are not necessary. No need to make yourself feel good bro just because you are getting a new toy. Enjoy your new toy and no need to bash others just because they made another choice..Both phones are great and both have their own good points. Even though most are just gimmicks from the iphone (yes S-Voice just a copy from Siri) and really even though i love the features of the phone it still does not cry out innovating from some parts of it..anyways if i did not had my one x i would be going for the s3 cause i still believe it is a good phone but the issues you are stating about the one x not everyone has it..so best go and do your research again. Plus each time i press the water lockscreen it will probably make me wanna go and have a leak.. and on that note

First & foremost I'm an Android Fan & not brand specific and will go with who ever I believe will give me the best end user experience.
I like the One X, I also think it has a very nice display, I like sense as a UI & the unit feels nice in the hand, play with my sisters one most days even to the point where I even ordered one, which I then cancelled due to the impending SIII launch.
Now the SIII is here I have ordered one, mainly due to the larger replaceable battery, full size sim (I have other network contracts) and Micro SD Support. These three things alone kill the HOX stone dead for me and I would guess quite a number of others who have multiple handsets.
I think seriously looks a very subjective thing, but when fashion fades only style remains. In the most part these things normally end up in some sort of protective casing which renders the looks aspect moot in most cases.
In 18months time, when the you have stopped looking at it aesthetically and just use it as a day to day communication,entertainment and productivity tool, what is really going to matter?
To me it will be.
Ease of use, battery life, reliability, compatibility & decent brightness in daylight.
I'm I really going to care about the differences in terms of Screen Technology's on a day to day basis, I doubt it, its a phone at the end of the day as long as the display is good that's all the really matters personally. Not for the least part there will be something better by then the anyway.
They are both really good High end devices which will hopefully push Android even further in front of a certain fruit company.
Just my 2p

I noticed Wolfson on the your spec list. This is great! Sound quality is a major factor for me, and keeps me on my Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate). With the return of Wolfson, I may be able to upgrade this summer when it comes to AT&T.

tkolev said:
The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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Here is my opinion. I think they both will be winner. I'm not saying that to make everybody else happy, its cause its the truth. Here are facts:
The one x is the best looking device without a shadow of a doubt. It looks sexy, the screen is amazing, it is really a great looking device. But unfortunately it has horrible battery life, screen issues, lag and stutter and sense while it looks beautiful is still a heavy skin. ( about the issues if you don't believe me go check the one x forum). Still it has great potential and WILL get lots of dev support so in a couple of months its gonna be a beast!
Now the Galaxy S3, honestly I like the design a lot. It isn't as beautiful as the one x but still , people are saying that it looks awesome in person. Then you got so many pros, exynos 4 quad on board , expandable storage, removable battery all in a device that is thinner than the one x. Anadtech and many others have reported the phone to be buttery smooth as expected. On top of that the phone should be easy to root ( no S-off bull crap required) all the new features Samsung introduced look great. Dev support is gonna be HUGE just like the one x will but with a boot loader easy to unlock. My personal choice is the S3 cause after I was blown away by the S2 , Samsung has won me over as a loyal customer. They both will b great especially when development takes off but I will give the edge to the s3 cause it is a performer!!!

We dont need another SGS3vsHTC whatever thread.
All general chat goes here

SGS3 vs HOX FULL NO BS REVIEW with BOTH HARDWARES

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Bottomline
GS3
Better Photos in regular lighting, and better color reproduction
Better Audio
Better Video
Better Speaker
Better GPU/CPU
Better Battery Life
Better Software
Better Gorilla Glass
Better Screen
+ Removable Batteries
+ SD Card Support
HOX
Better Photos in Low Light
More Instagram like filters...
Better Looks (They say, but this is subjective even in this picture above the GS3 looks much better personally)
More at GSM Arena
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I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.

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Better Storage
Removable Battery
Just read it
SGS3 is amazing
It's way way better than the HOX

haters gonna hate, where are everyone now?
GS III is purely awesome

The battery life test here is what is the most interesting. AMOLED screens use up more power than LCDs at bright colours, so it's expectable to see the S3 have only a slight margin over the HOX. The video test is the most interesting one; that's just pure obliteration beyond the 300mAh advantage. Expect the device to have on average a much better screen-on time than even that that if you optimize for the AMOLED screen, Samsung's default skin isn't quite nice in that regard. So much for Nvidia's +1 core.

This thing is proven again and again this year's best goes for samsung !! No more pointless discussion on which is the best.

GS3
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.

lonelyw said:
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.
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Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.

Dtguilds said:
Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.
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Lol I was reading that and I thought it's either deja vu or I've read it before
Well colour me impressed Samsung, gonna be hard deciding between the two... still don't like Touchwiz though (tried it on an ICS S2) let's see if the newer version is good enough.

Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.

LeviathanPT said:
Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.
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To me the home screen flinging didn't really respond to my touch, as in no matter how fast my finger moves, once I lift it it glides at its own pace. It's not very satisfying. Or maybe it was just my friend's phone that's like that...
About the defects (if that's what you mean) all phones will have some when they launch. I wait a couple months for them to iron things out.

It is extreme subjective. I have hold my buying decision when One X launched and waited for the announcement of SGS3. I still prefer SGS3 to HOX for switchable battery and microsd. They are with the same surface material. Sense UI may be better and I get used to it for years. Just wait for the arrival in my place to buy SGS3.

This is obviously a hot topic in the One X forum also. Here's what I posted there. Keep in mind I'm deciding between the two after a week or so with the SGS3. I also came from a i9100 and have a 3G UK G-Tab 10.1 so I'm no one's fanboi.
Dtguilds said:
Reviewed - So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better, but are you keeping your X?
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BarryH_GEG said:
Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.
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I stopped posting on the one x section, after they started calling me a troll. I don't know what exactly a troll is but I posted on 3 threads with with the words "galaxy" on the title. Im not going there to start a new thread or whatever and never have. Now that the dust has settled, lets be the bigger man.

In my own opinion these guys don't realize just how many of us have mp3 collections we want to pack on our phones. Not having the ability to get my mp3s on board makes the htc piece a non starter all by itself unless it can offset this by having an apk that makes naked supermodels spill out its guts on command.

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I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.
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differences were not huge you say?
have you seen the video comparisons?htc's looked pale as compared to sgs3's.
and the most important thing that everyone waited and wanted to know was the battery life.
"here's a curious little detail about what people are saying that amoleds use more power when displaying whites compared to other screen displays.
"The two flagships were less convincing in the browser endurance test. The HTC One X shut down just 4 hours and 18 minutes into the test and the Galaxy S III went on for 5 hours and 17 minutes. We were actually rather surprised that the S III came out on top here, knowing how badly the predominantly white web pages treat AMOLEDs.""
"Audio quality
The Samsung I9300 Galaxy s III turned out to be one of the most talented musicians around and managed to edge out the One X in the audio output quality test."
not huge difference my ...

This seems to be nearly flawless victory or smackdown (for the SIII, except screen and body imo), the photo sensor even trump the iPhone 4S. Glad to see the the audio quality is decent, that is a big factor for me.
I still don't understand Samsung decision to not use 5x5 icon rows in the home screen.

can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!

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can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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the 300mah difference can't account for those 4+ hours for movie playback. lols
let those who can only attack with "ugly design" explain why the hell that is.

boodies said:
can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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Might be the amoled blacks and hardware acceleration for all codecs
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Should I get this phone or wait until a new Nexus?

So, a bit of a backstory: I am still on an AT&T GS4. It is obviously years old, but still chugs along. More hangups now than earlier, but restarting fixes it. My phone is rooted, but no custom ROMs or anything, because locked boot loaders are great like that.
I use Tasker for enough things, AdAway, ClockSync (because I am anal and like "perfect" time), ES File Explorer, Light Flow, TB, and I do have some Xposed modules. Some of my Tasker profiles use Secure Settings. I really did like custom ROMs on my international GS2, and was pretty bummed that this did not have them. I also simply like having full control over my phone. It's my hardware, I want to use it how I please.
I have not purchased a Nexus 6p because it is mostly just too large for me. The S7E might be the biggest I would be comfortable with. At this point, I am looking for opinions on whether I should wait for a possibly new Nexus phone, or pick up this one. I would likely grab the 935F, and not the AT&T variant. Another thing that scares me is warranty, or lack thereof, since I would be buying it from an ebay seller. I've never had a phone with a manufacturer defect or something worth warrantying, but it would suck to have a dead phone and be out ~$700.
Any thoughts/opinions/similar conundrums?

If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung

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If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung
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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?

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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?
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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery

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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery
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Haha, yeah. I figured that is what you meant. I assume you don't care about root much then?

Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore

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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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Hmm, interesting. Thanks for your input!

No prob best of luck on your decision

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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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This is pretty much where I'm at. I mean, I would probably root if it were an option for adblock without a VPN, but it's not a deal breaker. OEM's have pretty much taken every cool feature that you could only get through a ROM and baked it in their own, so I have no interest in flashing ROM's anymore.

Wait for an unannounced potentially non existent phone (which is rumored to be by HTC), or get a solid option that you can touch, feel, see.
I think it's personal opinion, as far as warranty, you can get square trade warranty I believe it's called. And if it was never registered you could register it via samsung.
Lastly, depends what you want. I want best screen possible and amazing camera. That's s7 edge for me.
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With a theme and a launcher, I'm running like I'm stock. Best of both worlds.
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I am on the same boat. I am currently watching 2 auctions for the nexus 6p. Don't know if I should pull the trigger or not. My current phone is a iPhone 6 but I wanna get back into the android world as my first smartphone was a nexus. The edge looks awesome but my upgrade ain't ready till October.
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I say get the GS7E. I've been running Nexus phones side-by-side with my Galaxy phones since 2013 and the Galaxies are better for everything except timely software updates.
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I picked up the s7 edge about a week ago, the international 935f. I like the size and weight of the phone. I'm not sure if it's the exynos processor, but it's not as smooth as my Nexus 6p. The camera and battery life are better than the Nexus, not by much. I love my Nexus though and will keep it.
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Yeah, I am not sure what to do. I am sure the S7E is a badass phone, but I really want to be able to root it and screw around, if only just because I want the ability to do so.

I went from HTC One m8 (Sense rom, and also used GPE Rom for a while) + user of a Nexus 9, over to the S7 Edge.
Honestly, you can like Stock android as much as you want.. But stuff like Touchwiz (or other versions like sense, LG ui etc) have the one or other really awesome feature, that just simply don't exist on Android.
One of my Favourite features on TouchWiz right now:
Screenshot.
Honestly. After i do a Screenshot of a Screen, that is Scrollable (like Internet browser, Facebook posts, Whatsapp chatlog, etc), theres a "+" beside "share" and "delete". If i press the "+", the screenshot-function automatically scrolls down, and does another screenshot. If press + again, it does it a third time.
And it stitches them Together into a sort of "Panorama" screenshot.
In Whatsapp, you have your status bar at the Top, then 2345634 Kilometers Chatlog, and THEN just at the bottom your Text field. The Chat itself is stitched together jsut perfectly.
And if i say perfectly, i literaly mean Pixel-accuracy stitched Together.
my Whatsapp screens only look strange, because of my Background Wallpaper in Whatsapp, that will be "cut". If it were a one-color background, it would be absolutely Perfect.
Cant praise this feature enough, as someone who takes Screenshots here and there.
Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )

Darkseth said:
Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )
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Hmm, interesting. I don't know that it is super important to me to be able to take extremely long screenshots. I only ever take screenshots of the thing I am looking at directly.

True, but sometimes, it's quite handy Like for some conversations, that are 1,5 - 2 screens deep
But that's just one of many...
There is an option, to reset all Settings back, without having to do "Factory Reset" (which will delete all your data). That was handy for me once, while stock android doesnt have that.
The Camera App from Touchwiz is pretty good, and the Pro mode is nice (you can save pictures as RAW while in PRO Mode, or turn the shutter speed up to whole 10 Seconds which is useable because of the very good OIS).
Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)

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Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)
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I've never even used pure, stock Android before. Never had a Nexus. I don't have an issue with Touchwiz either, as I would already use Apex/Nova as my launcher anyway. The phone/software itself is great, I am positive. My issue is the locked down environment of it. I want to be able to tinker, and Samsung does not want that.

In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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Kartikeya861 said:
In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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I certainly do like the idea, and would have purchased a 6p when it came out, but it is just too damned big for my hands, unfortunately. I essentially have to decide if I want to wait until November or not.

anyone considering the s8?

Really the only thing interesting to me about the s8 is battery life because of the 835, although TouchWiz historically is a hog and form factor being a little smaller than the G6. Anyone else? The iris scanner is interesting but I'm not sure how it is faster than fingerprint. Could in theory use a JOD on it. The G6 is also more durable but the battery life doesn't look promising. They were so eager to beef up resolution but they just killed battery

It might have the 835 (or Exynos depending on region), but it also has a smaller battery than the G6.
The fact the Galaxy phones have AMOLED screens is a deal breaker for me, so I won't buy another as long as they are using that technology.

Will stick to LG only. Not going to the overrated Samsung

Samsung doing 3 months warranty replacement on S8. That's crazy marketing. I guess they have to build consumer trust again.
http://phandroid.com/2017/03/22/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-refund-return-period/
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I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.

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I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.
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You can't say you are considering the S8 if cost is a factor for discounting the G6....

alexp999 said:
You can't say you are considering the S8 if cost is a factor for discounting the G6....
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Sure I can. The G6 has less features per dollar compared to the S8.

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Sure I can. The G6 has less features per dollar compared to the S8.
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Depends what features you want I guess. The S8 has nothing I want over the G6.

Features dont always equal superiority.

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Samsung doing 3 months warranty replacement on S8. That's crazy marketing. I guess they have to build consumer trust again.
http://phandroid.com/2017/03/22/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-refund-return-period/
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Yea because once they go up in flames again, they'll need that easy refund window. lol
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Yea because once they go up in flames again, they'll need that easy refund window. lol
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The spec heads will be stuck on the 835 in the S8...as for me? I couldn't care less. Day to day performance will be indistinguishable between the two... If anything, the G6 will be snappier then the S8 unless Sammy has done some serious rework of touchwiz.

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Ya I might need that now! lol
So when this dang S8 comming out????
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SOCOM-HERO said:
I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.
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I agree. I've been using a G5 for about 4 months because my 2 year old Note 4 was dying, and the G5 was half-off. But overall, I liked my Note 4 more. Two things that kill the G6 for me is the lack of the LED Notification Light and still used LCD (but is said to be far better than the one on the G5).
But I'll have to see what the price difference is, as th G6 does for about $650-700, and if th S8 is pushing $200 more, that is a tough sell for me.

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It might have the 835 (or Exynos depending on region), but it also has a smaller battery than the G6.
The fact the Galaxy phones have AMOLED screens is a deal breaker for me, so I won't buy another as long as they are using that technology.
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I hate AMOLED so much, especially the white colour temperature (slightly yellowish)... I really love the iPhone screen colour (and oh dear, I hate iOS). And the screen comes close to iPhone colour is LG's
Still using S7 Active (mainly for battery capacity), I'm looking forward to V30, hope it has bigger battery, at least 4000 as S7 Active. I'll buy one, immediately.
And by the way, android is lagging than iOS, but TouchWiz did make things worse than, I don't say LG framework is more beautiful, but compare my experience with many devices of both Samsung and LG (as well as other brands), Samsung has the laggier UI vs. LG (same processor and RAM)

My last Samsung device (Note 4) just recently died on me (wont turn on or charge) so no, im done with Samsung phones

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Only if you sign an NDA to say it never happened of course.
Going on from my previous post, as I'm in the UK I can't get SD835 version anyway. I'd rather have an SD821 than Exynos.

Is it just me or do the "metal" sides just look like cheap plastic?
In fact the whole thing looks plastic. I know it might be different in the hand, but it looks like the first few gens of Galaxy S (I had the 1st one).

After watching the presentation Im glad I went with the G6. I will get the Note 8 when it comes out but these curved screens just suck. I dont understand the purpose and it makes the device substantially more fragile. I will say though, DeX looks freakin awesome. The whole presentation was really odd and the people in the crowd at the end was creepy. Price wise I'd say they put it right where it belongs so kudos for not hitting that $1000 mark.

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After watching the presentation Im glad I went with the G6. I will get the Note 8 when it comes out but these curved screens just suck. I dont understand the purpose and it makes the device substantially more fragile. I will say though, DeX looks freakin awesome. The whole presentation was really odd and the people in the crowd at the end was creepy. Price wise I'd say they put it right where it belongs so kudos for not hitting that $1000 mark.
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Just looked at the first look of the phone. I also feel soo good going with the G6. I might be looking hopeful towards the note. Seems like the same aspect ratio of the g6 but curved display, which is terrible to protect and use. Fingerprint sensor is a joke, and bixby look very incapable as of yet compared to google now! WOW WOW WOW. Close call!