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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

Hey guys, some of you know me for my reviews and I decided to get a new phone. The LG nexus 4.
I wanted to show you a side by side comparison of the phones in case you are thinking of changing devices . Both are great but different
The s3 is not stock ..but whos is ? lol
enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA

Nice review I think the gs3 is better ie the i9305 but good job
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Yep. My version (tmo) is the weakest of them all .
But my cousin has the international and honestly the n4 still feels a little superior
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I prefer the S III myself too. Pity the Nexus series is crippled all the time.

no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom

Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony

ThilinaC said:
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
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It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.

ThilinaC said:
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
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Because they want you to use their cloud storage and a fixed battery keeps the unit cost down. It's amazing that they've managed to produce the hardware for the price, but I still chose the S3 as I couldn't live with being tethered to a wall plug for 4 hours a day.

Catching myself on flashing Cyanogen after every samsung rom release - it's just clean and light comparing to the last one , i then thought, if i love pure G more than a blup-blup cartoonish mothefuker even with cool milti window which i used 4-5 times to put iScumbags in depression and smart rotation which is a super must feature. However , i just enjoy a lot more when using aosp , eventhough S3 is a great device
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bala_gamer said:
no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom
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Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
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what rom is he using on his s3?

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what rom is he using on his s3?
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Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.

Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
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eseregin said:
It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.
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Yep, well the rumors where that the nexus family was gonna become a line, so there were gonna be different nexus devices by different makers at the same time
I honestly dont think that the nexus will ever have an SD slot..why? dont even ask me cause it doesnt make sense, but most likely because its was originally supposed to be a developer phone? who knows..but they need to start listening to us the users
My thing is..when I hear "nexus" I think of the cream of the cream, top of the line stuff on it..they shouldnt cheap out on parts nor design..and somehow they just keep doing that over and over again

Poshdaz said:
Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
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sammy used to be better but sadly you are correct..they will release the s4 and the s3 quickly will be left behind

jhericurls said:
Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.
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Correct. the rom im running is the Latest Paranoid android. An outstanding rom I may say

wolvie_rs said:
Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
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Try paranoid android it feels as pure as possible and very smooth as well

So is the theme in this thread that the SGS3 is the better phone than the nexus 4?
I have been mulling this over and over in my head. I have an update in may and I don't know if I should sell my SGS3 now and get the nexus 4 then decide in may if I want to jump to SGS4 or keep my SGS3 till may and swap then ???
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Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
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rault18 said:
Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
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That's where I was leaning especially with an upgrade around the corner I can always make that decision then. I was just wondering over here if many made the swap from SGS3 and if they regret it or are OK?
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Android 6 aka Marshmallow

Android named 6 version as Marshmallow as I thought. If LG does the same think like Lollipop we will see Android 6 for G3 soon as 3rd and final preview released today.
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ceza1380 said:
Android named 6 version as Marshmallow as I thought. If LG does the same think like Lollipop we will see Android 6 for G3 soon as 3rd and final preview released today.
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I really hope that they will give us an official bootloader unlock with this

I don't have much hope about that but let's wait and see.
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ceza1380 said:
I don't have much hope about that but let's wait and see.
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The only thing which concerns me is the time when we will receive it. Beside that we will get official 6.0 update why we wouldn't?

ilooze said:
The only thing which concerns me is the time when we will receive it. Beside that we will get official 6.0 update why we wouldn't?
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Yeah you are right. I was talking about Bootloader unlock. I don't think we will get it.
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ceza1380 said:
Yeah you are right. I was talking about Bootloader unlock. I don't think we will get it.
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some blogs report is already avaiable the unlock of LG G3 bootloader with bump! i dont know if is the real method or not but i dont see it anywhere!
about having the Android 6, i think only about february or march next year! Because now we have the G4 first to receive it.

People will riot to LG building in Korea if they wait till next year for Android 6. 5.0 for G3 is so buggy.
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copy2050 said:
some blogs report is already avaiable the unlock of LG G3 bootloader with bump! i dont know if is the real method or not but i dont see it anywhere!
about having the Android 6, i think only about february or march next year! Because now we have the G4 first to receive it.
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Bump is not official and I have many problem with it, that's why I want an official way to unlock it directly from lg like for the LG G4: http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
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I don't have much hope about that but let's wait and see.
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Yeah, me to I don't have much hope about this sadly :/

ceza1380 said:
People will riot to LG building in Korea if they wait till next year for Android 6. 5.0 for G3 is so buggy.
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haha :laugh: that's for sure! but I don't think LG will wait that much with the update.

ilooze said:
haha :laugh: that's for sure! but I don't think LG will wait that much with the update.
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That's all we want. We must get Android 6 as soon as Google release it. There were 3 preview builds so what do really do LG software department anyway. They get money like US gets oil from middle east(lol), so what are they doing with all that money? Hire talented developers and make updates rain.
If Nexus devices had enough battery like 3000, i wouldn't lick LG's backpack for updates anyway.

ceza1380 said:
That's all we want. We must get Android 6 as soon as Google release it. There were 3 preview builds so what do really do LG software department anyway. They get money like US gets oil from middle east(lol), so what are they doing with all that money? Hire talented developers and make updates rain.
If Nexus devices had enough battery like 3000, i wouldn't lick LG's backpack for updates anyway.
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to be honest I never liked LG's software development. I always believed in developers here on XDA. In my opinion LG is making powerful hardware, this is why I will stick to LG int he future, but they not tailor the OS perfectly to the device. I always liked more Stock modded softwares.

Is there any release date for 6.0 in general? Or that last dev/preview build is like RTM for Windows?

We won`t get anything this year guys. Lets be realistic. Google said M will be ready "later this fall". So we can expect it maybe in October. LG G4 will be first with the update, rolling out in December just as
G3s last years Lollipop update. I am guessing for Q1 2016 (earliest) if we get the update at all

I bet we won't get any official bootloader unlock, nor android marshmallow before january '16.

I have decided to go back to Nexus next time. Not for the latest shiny widget but to ensure I get security updates ASAP and not 1 year after my phone has retired.
I like my LG G3 but that I have to live with well documented and exploited security holes for almost a year is ridiculous.
In this case I suspect it is as much LGs fault as it also would be my carriers who insists on retesting everything for x weeks.
Nexus 5 or 6 2015 edition, bring it on

[Official] NO Android 6.0 Marshmallow for Moto X 2013 confirmed!

Well its official. Support is now dropped in terms of major ROM updates. We're stuck, official ROM wise, on the current 5.1.
Very very disappointing as I think our devices are perfectly capable of running Marshmallow. Just proves yet again the claim that Apple have better support. I mean the 4s got the latest iOS 9. Anyway…sorry to bring the sad news guys. Cyanogenmod it is then.
Let us know your thoughts.
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Already made the switch to cyanogenmod a while back.
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Would be nice to get an unlock for the xt1060, but that's probably not happening. Maybe it's time to bug the sunshine guys into looking into it again, I know they managed to get the 2nd gen bootloaders unlocked. Kind of our last hope.

stealtheye said:
Well its official. Support is now dropped in terms of major ROM updates. We're stuck, official ROM wise, on the current 5.1.
Very very disappointing as I think our devices are perfectly capable of running Marshmallow. Just proves yet again the claim that Apple have better support. I mean the 4s got the latest iOS 9. Anyway…sorry to bring the sad news guys. Cyanogenmod it is then.
Let us know your thoughts.
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We can already be happy to have received the 5.1 !!!!! (and perhaps an update for the latest major security breaches !! I think we're many people that are very disappointed by Motorola)

Well its now a 2 year old device, does it sucks ? Yes, of course
But considering the Nexus 4 had problems updating to L and its not on the roadmap for M (same exact situation for X2013), maybe theres something with the Snapdragob S4 Pro ?
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Faruko said:
Well its now a 2 year old device, does it sucks ? Yes, of course
But considering the Nexus 4 had problems updating to L and its not on the roadmap for M (same exact situation for X2013), maybe theres something with the Snapdragob S4 Pro ?
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Nothing wrong with the Snapdragon S4 pro. the nexus 7 2013 has it and it's getting the upgrade.

The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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UncleMike said:
The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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I was hoping for Moto to address the myriad issues in the 5.1 OTA, but that seems rather unlikely at this point. As much as I want to stick with the stock ROM, there are too many annoying problems. I think I have to make the switch to CM in order to have a stable, relatively bug-free experience once again.

locusto03 said:
I think I have to make the switch to CM in order to have a stable, relatively bug-free experience once again.
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I LOL'd at this, almost literally. If you think any source built ROM (CM, AOSP or otherwise) is going to be bug free, you're lying to yourself. The only place that is anywhere close to possible is with Nexus devices.
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imnuts said:
I LOL'd at this, almost literally. If you think any source built ROM (CM, AOSP or otherwise) is going to be bug free, you're lying to yourself. The only place that is anywhere close to possible is with Nexus devices.
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I realize how it sounds, but that's truly how bad the 5.1 OTA has been for me. YouTube randomly pauses videos while audio continues to work, requiring a reboot. Random loud crackling/distortion through the speaker, requiring a reboot. Overall increased battery drain compared to 4.4.4, with random periods of even faster drain, requiring a reboot. Broken calendar sync.
Been playing with CM12.1 all day, and although I'll deeply miss the stock Moto features, performance has been great with none of the aforementioned bugs. It simply works as it should. If by some miracle Moto were to release a 5.1.1 update without annoying issues, I'd switch back in a heatbeat as I prefer the stock experience.

I would be happy if we just got a fix for youtube. It's broken now on my locked down ATT xt1058 and seems to be for many others as well.

We're on 2013, but many of the 2014 Moto X models aren't getting it either http://www.androidcentral.com/delays-and-abandonment-now-dominate-motorolas-comeback-tale
Which is abysmal. I can't imagine getting another Moto after this. Moving over to Nexus for my next phone. I'm generally happy running 4.4, especially seeing the issues some of you are having with OTA 5.1. I like this phone. I bought this phone because it was made by Google, but I don't think the Lenovo sale has been good news for Motorola.

brian Marshall said:
I would be happy if we just got a fix for youtube. It's broken now on my locked down ATT xt1058 and seems to be for many others as well.
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You've got to be kidding me...
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This is not a logical response on my part, but now that I know my Moto X 1st Gen won't be getting any more official upgrades, I suddenly feel much freer to play around with it, install custom ROMs, etc. I did this all the time with my previous phone (HTC Sensation), but I've stuck with stock on my Moto X, mainly because it has met my needs pretty well (apart from battery life). But now I'm free to play! In fact, CM12.1 went on my phone just this morning. Nice!

Oh boo hoo.

How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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UncleMike said:
The biggest disappointment for me in not getting an M update is there will be no official fix for the Cell Standby battery drain.
I've since reverted (I hesitate to say downgraded) to 4.4.4. Sure, I'm missing the stage fright fix, but at least my battery isn't dead by 5pm. I guess I could consider a dead battery the ultimate stage fright fix.
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How did you do that? Any directions to an article?

TheDiabolicaL1 said:
You've got to be kidding me...
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kidding you? about what? That youtube doens't work, or that I'd be happy if it did? /confused

Ahah, on Sprint XT 1056 latest firmware was 4.4.4, but I can install or flash 5.1 from 1053, and its fine. For me M isn't a big deal or step after Lollipop, how it was from KitKat. So, no hurry even for CM... 13(?)
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sherif2015 said:
How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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How did you do that? Any directions to an article?
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Here's a link to the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
It's intended for the XT1052, but the steps worked on my XT1053 as well (though someone else confirmed it before I tried). You'll need an unlocked bootloader and the factory images for your model.

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Ahah, on Sprint XT 1056 latest firmware was 4.4.4, but I can install or flash 5.1 from 1053, and its fine. For me M isn't a big deal or step after Lollipop, how it was from KitKat. So, no hurry even for CM... 13(?)
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For clarification: are you using your Sprint 1056 on the Sprint network after flashing 5.1 from the 1053?

Note 4 & Manual Camera features

I have recently got Note 4 910G. Though I was going to get LG G4, I chose Note 4 due to being familiar with Touchwiz and also using S health app. But the G4 camera is something I sorely miss on Note 4.
So since Lollipop allows manual camera controls, What do you think will we likely see Manual camera controls on Note 4 in future updates (Like in S5 etc). Or is there any custom rom that has these features already??

You will continue to get modified kitkat camera app. No manual mode no 720p slow MO nothing. And for me it's a wrong decision choosing note 4 over g4. Return it if you can and take LG g4 and install s health on it
BTW I only used LG g4 international and it was über. I don't know about carrier specific versions.
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beypazari said:
You will continue to get modified kitkat camera app. No manual mode no 720p slow MO nothing. And for me it's a wrong decision choosing note 4 over g4. Return it if you can and take LG g4 and install s health on it
BTW I only used LG g4 international and it was über. I don't know about carrier specific versions.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes I intend on getting the Int. model too. I really wish note 4 can get manuals...

NHS2008 said:
Thanks for the reply. Yes I intend on getting the Int. model too. I really wish note 4 can get manuals...
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Yeah me too also the new camera app, new touchwiz, themes etc... [emoji2] but I think it's normal that they hold these features from a marginally old phone. It's what I would do if I would Samsung, to make customers bug new devices so I can profit. The bad thing is, my device is exynos so no 3rd party development over here.
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beypazari said:
Yeah me too also the new camera app, new touchwiz, themes etc... [emoji2] but I think it's normal that they hold these features from a marginally old phone. It's what I would do if I would Samsung, to make customers bug new devices so I can profit. The bad thing is, my device is exynos so no 3rd party development over here.
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Except its NOT a marginally old phone. It was thier FLAGSHIP until few months back!! Hey, there's some cool rom in Exynos too. I was a big fan of Wanam light rom on S4 and the sixperience rom looks cool too.

Well I don't like custom roms except cyanogenmod. Because there is always something broken in other stock customized roms so I tend to stay away from them. There is word going around cyanogenmod will support exynos, but we will see.
Good luck with your device mate.
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The future of OPT

Is oneplus gonna release the source for the finger print scanner? Is that why that development is lacking for this phone? I'm really regretting my purchase. Kinda let down.. I'm late to the game but was just reading that some devs sold their devices! Uugh. Anyone interested in a new OPT?

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Oneplus will not release its Lollipop fingerprint scanner code. Instead Carl said they will switch to standard Google Fingerprint API on Marshmallow.

What is the point of this thread imho oneplus said they will use a standard API for the fingerprint sensor.
I think we just have to wait.
The oneplus 2 is a well build phone and oos is not the best os i agree but hey just buy a Samsung with touchwizz?
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I think what Carl meant was the scanner binary driver for mm would work on custom roms
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The future of op2 seems like shining brighter...
Looks like they will start an developer program and invite some well-known devs
https://mobile.twitter.com/andip71/status/682120706742710272

vergilbt said:
The future of op2 seems like shining brighter...
Looks like they will start an developer program and invite some well-known devs
https://mobile.twitter.com/andip71/status/682120706742710272
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I'm very new to my OPT and even less savvy about this boeffla kernel/person but they are hiring him sounds... Extremely promising no?
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vletrmx21 said:
I'm very new to my OPT and even less savvy about this boeffla kernel/person but they are hiring him sounds... Extremely promising no?
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He is a well known kernel developer here in OPT and he developed his reputation over the development and support of over 5 devices.
Not sure what to expect but it sorta give us hope that maybe stock oxygen kernel in marshmallow and forward would be baked better
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