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Jelly Bean Android 4.1

Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service

Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.

We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!

cpm said:
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..

same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:

race55 said:
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me

How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.

I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player

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How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).

Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.

GldRush98 said:
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.

I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.

Indefinite Implosion said:
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

LG Optimus G vs Note 2

Since the LG is coming out soon for AT&T what do you guys think is the better buy?

Wait for the note 2. Every LG smartphone I have owned had been horrid. They have a lot of making up to do if they want my business again.
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That's what I've been hearing too about LG...but the specs on it are top of the line right now. That's what's making it hard to decide.

cleankutazn said:
That's what I've been hearing too about LG...but the specs on it are top of the line right now. That's what's making it hard to decide.
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Specs are okay but software support, rom releases not as good as ss.
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Locked bootloader no custom roms.. Go read on 4x forums not a single rom and go read to 2x forums top of line at its time last year stuck on gb.. No updates.. 4x still on ics and optimus G will be with ics till the end of the times... Locked bootloader to
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Can't believe it's not coming out with jellybean, that's a shame with those specs. Wouldn't you think that LG would learn by now with all those complaints. I think LG is still stuck in the mid 2000's where you release a phone and there would be no need for updates.

Yeah hands down easy choice... Note 2..I had no luck with LG In the phone field
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

The note 2 is an easy choice. The LG optinus G isnt gonna last very long, with the upcoming nexus and early next year when the new super smartphone come out. The note is unique.
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Wait for the Optimus G Nexus. Yes, there will be a Nexus based on the Optimus G and yes, Google is expected to unveil it October 29 together with big Nexus news. So big that I postponed the Note II. Head over to Android and Me and read more.

Just reading the rumours about the LG Optimus G Nexus made me hold out getting a GN2 as well. If it doesn't have an SD card slot then il probably come back to the note 2 or wait till Jan
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looks like we'll be waiting forever because new phones will always be coming out I've been waiting since the note 1 came out :crying:

cleankutazn said:
looks like we'll be waiting forever because new phones will always be coming out I've been waiting since the note 1 came out :crying:
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better go for the note 2. i'm from optimus 2x forum. 2x have a wise spec but support from Lg and nvidia is worst! official ics is still not available for us

KCA. said:
Just reading the rumours about the LG Optimus G Nexus made me hold out getting a GN2 as well. If it doesn't have an SD card slot then il probably come back to the note 2 or wait till Jan
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I do not like LG phone anymore .

If i just had to go for one phone it for sure would be the Note atm.
Will get the Lg to try it out when it comes out, but i am pretty sure i will use my Note for a good time as my main device.
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I'm a size queen, so note 2 for sure lol
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E90 Commie said:
Wait for the Optimus G Nexus. Yes, there will be a Nexus based on the Optimus G and yes, Google is expected to unveil it October 29 together with big Nexus news. So big that I postponed the Note II. Head over to Android and Me and read more.
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It's a good thing I read this thread, I was about to order a Note II today until I read this.
Back on topic, I'd personally go for the Note II over the Optimus G, for the huge battery if nothing else.

I prefer the expectacular samsung software and top-end phone that is the note 2 to a vanilla android with similar spects, i go for the note.
- f3w1n -

I thought about the nexus 4 but 8gb of storage and no SD card slot is a deal breaker plus I want the bigger screen of the note the gnexs screen is too small and I make the on screen Navy bar as small as it will go 24dpi. Plus Sammy has redeemed them selves since my epic 4g. Note 2 all the way for me just waiting to get the t-mo version unlocked
Gsm GNex running Codename Android & Franco Kernel

Ya Google seems to be going backwards if they are going to release a phone with 8gb of storage and a 4 inch screen. It sounds like they are just 're-releasing the nexus s but with a few more cores, lol. But at least the nexus s had an sd card slot. I don't understand why any company would release a phone with no sd slot. I know apple does it so they can charge you and extra 100$ for 16gb of space, even though u can buy a 16gb memory card for 25$ from Wal-Mart. But so help me god if Google starts emulating apple and their bullsh*t business model, I'm going on a serious rampage, SERIOUSLY!!! Haha
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ATRIXXIRTA said:
Ya Google seems to be going backwards if they are going to release a phone with 8gb of storage and a 4 inch screen. It sounds like they are just 're-releasing the nexus s but with a few more cores, lol. But at least the nexus s had an sd card slot. I don't understand why any company would release a phone with no sd slot. I know apple does it so they can charge you and extra 100$ for 16gb of space, even though u can buy a 16gb memory card for 25$ from Wal-Mart. But so help me god if Google starts emulating apple and their bullsh*t business model, I'm going on a serious rampage, SERIOUSLY!!! Haha
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IIRC, the nexus S and every subsequent nexus had no SD card support. That's why I decided against the S. Google does that for a reason...internal storage is faster and more reliable than any SD card.
I personally don't care and won't purchase a phone without SD card support.
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SGS3 not to get Note 2 features

Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM

Well, I think it shouldn't be that hard to port a Note 2-ROM to the SGS 3, as they're based on nearly the same specs... Would be nice to see some of those features in a custom ROM though

There are already ROMs with the Note 2 gallery and camera, for example.

henrybravo said:
There are already ROMs with the Note 2 gallery and camera, for example.
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indeed but they are problematic for some people, i'd much prefer to see a full ROM port which cant be that difficult as hardware is pretty much identical, although there could be ram issues.

None of features sound that ground breaking. I will stick to the stock ROM + root. Thanks.
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bunglebp said:
Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM
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Samsung contacted you personally to tell you this?
Can i get in on that action please?

Well this is obvious they have to make it different you can't expect to get every new feature that they release in they're new flagships
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What exactly is it that you want to get? The note has a separate sensor on the screen for he stylus so you would get any short cuts or quick notes.
Anything else software related should be available to port.
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kdskamal said:
None of features sound that ground breaking. I will stick to the stock ROM + root. Thanks.
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Who asked you?

bunglebp said:
Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM
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Sooner or later we will all switch to CyanogenMod when Samsung stops updating our phones and newer Android versions released.

When you feature gets ported people say it's awesome, when it dosent people say it's not that good. :banghead:
《swagged from aokp》

tanjiajun_34 said:
Sooner or later we will all switch to CyanogenMod when Samsung stops updating our phones and newer Android versions released.
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and at some point in the future we'll have hoverboards and spangly clothing, so what...

Lol, why would they give you the Note's features on an S3? what's the point of a note then? xD
Cmon, you bought a phone and agreed to have what it had at that point of time, heck samsung doesn't even have to update it (the box had 4.0.4 and you agreed to that.
So be happy and stop complaining.

lets not question the validity of peoples need / want for these features, that's just stupid.

I also want Note 2 features and I have a solution...
I am selling my GS3 and getting Note 2 today
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Skander1998 said:
Lol, why would they give you the Note's features on an S3? what's the point of a note then? xD
Cmon, you bought a phone and agreed to have what it had at that point of time, heck samsung doesn't even have to update it (the box had 4.0.4 and you agreed to that.
So be happy and stop complaining.
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What the hell are you doing in this forum then? True curiosity.
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I heard we may be getting it as an ota after jb has rolled out worldwide. It will likely come with the lte and ram upgrade.
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I seem to have this feeling that we're not getting these features due to the lack of RAM (1GB vs 2GB).
IMHO Samsung should have really put 2GB into the GT-I9300...
Hopefully later revisions of the GT-I9300 will have 2GB of RAM. Fat chance but one can wish.

ryanswj said:
I seem to have this feeling that we're not getting these features due to the lack of RAM (1GB vs 2GB).
IMHO Samsung should have really put 2GB into the GT-I9300...
Hopefully later revisions of the GT-I9300 will have 2GB of RAM. Fat chance but one can wish.
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There are already version with 2gb ram n quadcore with Lte
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da.trute said:
and at some point in the future we'll have hoverboards and spangly clothing, so what...
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Well that depends on how soon it is. Like imagine iPhone 6 is coming out tmr. Will you buy the iPhone 5 now?
Samsung will normally just update 2 Android versions and the update is gone. That is about a year left for Key Lime Pie update I guess. So in the end I really don't mind not having Note 2 features. Plus I don't trust Samsung software features. Samsung is a hardware not a software company.

[Q] So... is CM coming to this device?

I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...

ladarkphoenix said:
I am quite new to the forums but I am just wondering if CM is coming to this device... seeing as installing CM11 on my mother's Galaxy S3 and it works super duper fast, the Tab 4 Lags with touchwiz...
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Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?

MarckozZ said:
Probably not. This devices are not so popular and all good devs have a Nexus 7 or 9. So Id bet this tabs wont get cm11 or 12 or anything but a debloated stock rom.
What is your device?
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T230NU, I really need a langauge pack on this device since my mom doesn't quite understand English.. Russian would be good

Thats upsetting considering they had CM working on a little crappy Huawei phone, but wont do it for a samsung tablet...

It depends on the devs. We got so lucky that some devs owned the tab s and made a unoffical build of cm11 and aphla build of cm12. I own a tab s and are lucky to have cm11 on this device.

If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.

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If a talented Dev applied himself it is possible but mostly the issue is our chip set is hard to work with. The tab s wasn't.
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Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.

roamin said:
i bought a SM-T530 today, first tablet but had many android phones (htc desire, s2, s3, htc m8 and so on) and rooted/rom on all of them.
impulse bought this tab 4 tablet expecting good things due to the fact its a samsung tab series and just expected there would be a scene of roms for these samsung tablets! boy was i wrong.
very dissapointed i bought this tablet now considering i cant even find an aosp rom for it at the moment.
first time i have not researched a device. i burnt myself big time. im never a fan of stock roms. :crying:
will keep an eye on these forums for roms. hoping someone does an aosp rom of some kind for it.
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Yeah, my niece got a tab 4 for christmas, and I was helping her out with it, since I'm the "tech" guy. I was pretty disappointed with it, to be honest. It made me really appreciate my nexus.

So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Yes. I do not think the Tab 4 chipsets are exynos. Our tab s are exynos which is probaly why some devs who dont own this tablet still makes kernels and roms.
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Exynos are even more a pain than this tablet.

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So far only real gripe I have is lack of brightness sensor... Amazed they left that off.
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Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.

antiseen said:
Yeah, same here. And the non lighted software keys are kind of annoying when using the tab in the dark like I am right now.
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completely agree. not sure why they did that.

Not an exynos in t230. Its marvell pxa1088 Which is a four core similar to the dual core in tab 3 7 inch
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Maybe create a petition on porting cyanogenmod to tab 4?

hi,
the sm-t23x is going to hit the same wall that the tab 3 7.0 hit because of the marvell situation.
although, from the effort with the tab 3 7, there may be new knowledge available marvell wise for working
with the tab 4 7.
I would recommend getting to work on it over waiting for someone else to do it. :good:
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