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I recently purchased a Samsung Omnia 7 online from someone who had won the phone in a competition held by optus.
It came with the proof of winning and it was all sealed, no issues at all with the transaction.
The phone works great, but it has a dead pixel right in the middle of the screen. It's small but it's annoying now that I've noticed it and lets face it, who wants to start getting dead pixels with their new phone.
I asked the person it says to contact on this letter with any problems and they said to return it to the store where it was won from (And I'm very far away from there since it's in Queensland) and they will start the repair procedure.
That's not really an option, it would be such a hassle to ship it back to the guy I bought it from and get him to do all the work. Plus it would take me a month to get my phone back between it being away for repair and then being sent back to be again.
I called Samsung and I have the option to send it to service centers in Sydney, but the guy from Samsung said it might not be worth it because it may have to be several pixels in order to be repaired/replaced.
I looked around and couldn't really find solid answers for mobile phone dead pixel policies.
Is it worth sending back or am I going to have to live with this?
It's a real disappointed, and although it's one pixel, this will say something about how Samsung cares about their customer and quality of product to me.
If I don't walk away happy, I won't be going Samsung again.
Anyway, to send it for repair or not too? Is Samsung going to care about one pixel? I don't want to do it, if it will be a waste of time.
Hmm... I don't know about samsung repair policy, but I think that for phone screens 1 dead pixel is enugh to be repaired. For monitors and TV there need to be more... more than 10 I think but for a phone... I really don't know, if the guy from Samsung says that it will not be replaced than it probobly won't. Try calling again and hope that another person will answer not the same guy and ask him/her about their return/replace policy, how many dead pixels need to be there on a PHONE screen. You should also specify that it's a super AMOLED screen and wich phone model it is.
Anyway, it's not only Samsung, every other phone manufactures are nearly the same.
i had a dead pixel on my old school omnia (i900) on the bottom left corner of my screen. I sent it to the samsung repair centre and they replaced the screen for me!
So good luck with your quest
The international standard for dead/bright pixels is from 3 to 6 dots, no matter what size screens, but companies have there own policies, I know hong kong samsung has 3 whether it's a phone or a screen on a TV/monitor, so i imagine it's the same around the world, like wise apple has a 0 dead pixel on the iphone, but 3-5 on notebooks to over 7-10 on desktop monitors (i think, seen it mention somewhere), although apple doesnt state it, it's just for staff and internal referrences.
correct me if i'm wrong.
To the OP,
Try this link: http://www.samsung.com/au/support/location/serviceLocator.do?page=SERVICE.LOCATION
When my antenna died, I popped in to my local repair centre and they had it fixed within 3 days, all on warranty. It may be worth calling them first if your nearest one is a long way.
Doing it this way means you can avoid going through the shop you bought it from and deal directly with Samsung (who don't care where you bought it, as long as it's in warranty).
I smashed my screen a couple of week ago. Dropped a heavy lamp onto it and the sharp top end went into the edge of the screen and shattered a large proportion of it (I'm not blaming the screen cos that would have broken any screen). Luckily bought cover for it and returned it for repairs, due back this week.
But here's the interesting part of the story. I was searching ebay for accessories and came across the following:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASUS-TF101-16...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item1c1b55c6e9
THATS MY TRANSFORMER!!!!
So rung comet and they told me it is repaired and will be ready to pick up this week.
How do I know its mine? I took a picture of it before returning and the cracks across the screen are identical.
I can only assume comet are replacing it, even though they are claiming they repaired it.
In thier terms and conditions, if a product is replaced by a new one then the remainder of the warranty then becomes void (only covered for repairs). But they haven't said anything about it. Guess thats good for me, new transformer and keep warranty.
Honestly, this sounds very worrying and maybe this is a suing job. Surely a company isn't allowed to sell your property. What if you had sensitive data on it for example? If you can prove it's yours as you say you can, it looks like an open and shut case to me.
If I were you I'd ask for a proper explanation from them and show them exactly what you are showing us.
Warranty? Warrant doesn't cover dropping crap on it. Insurance would, but not warranty.
Lamp impact damage isn't a manufacturing defect. How the heck did you get the retailer to repair/replace it? Did you buy a replacement or service plan with it?
Thats a good point. I was just excited about getting my transformer back.
But very true that i could have had sensitive information on it but thankfully factory reset it before giving it back (just in case something like this happened i guess).
Will take a picture in when I go to pick "my" transformer up and see what they got to say for themselves
my correction, it was a service plan i bought (insurance) I bought with it, about £109 for a year that covers accidental damage. And so glad I did
Bonus, I have the serial number of my Asus. Now this will be an interesting conversation when I go pick up my Asus and try to match up the the serial no.
I'm assuming you are in the UK. Not sure how things work there, but most insurance policies here say they can replace the device and it still takes away the warranty period. As long as they wipe the device, they can do whatever they want with it. Same thing as a return. ymmv, but i wouldnt expect any sort of compensation from a company that is holding up their end of the bargain (taking a broken tablet from you and giving you a non-broken tablet.)
I'm more annoyed about the fact that if they were going to replace it why have they kept me away from my precious Asus for 3 weeks, they have (or someone) has had time to put it on ebay even.
Otherwise not to fussed with a replacement and I think your right that they prob have kept their end of the bargain. Will scrutinise the terms and conditions later.
You'll probably find what's happened is Comet have taken your tablet, the underwriter of the service plan has agreed to replace for a new device, the store then retains the device (insurance write-off) and a staff member asks to buy it for, lets say £50 for this argument which is then a 100% profit for the store due to it being writen-off. This is similar to how PC World worked when I was there during college/uni years and why you see clearance stock with bits missing/damage to them at reduced prices. Oh and staff get silly discounts off damaged products as they generally couldn't sell some stuff, we had people getting laptops for £50 or cheaper on the odd occassion.
However remember this could just be a coincidence lol
Hi, didn't asus already had an accident happen warranty for this device? (seen this on a retailer website, it is for the netbook but it was put in bold: Accidents Happen
You have extra protection when they happen to your ASUS notebook purchased in the US or Canada. ASUS will fix it or replace it for you at no charge during the first year after purchase in the event of damage from accidental spills, drops, electrical surges, or fire.
Warranty covering accidental drops, spills, power surges, and fire damage
Target 3 business day turnaround time for repair / replacement; not including receiving and shipping time
One-way shipping (from ASUS to the user) at no additional cost
24/7 toll-free phone support
One incident covered per notebook
So not sure about it but usually asus have a pretty good warranty...
**EDIT: OOps, just seen it is only for us and canada... so uk may be different...
i hope they havent actually sold off your tablet, thats a joke, tell them you want to be compensated for the trouble this has caused, you could have had sensitive data on the machine. And you know they are selling your one online. Maybe the person with the ebay account is a dodgy comet employee.
im gonna follow and see what happens, i wouldnt be happy waiting when there are about 4 different honeycomb tablets to pick from now, and they have kept you without your one. the xoom was meant to be the first, but i didnt get one, as this was out first, xoom got delayed and to be honest, why have you had to wait at all.
I am dissappointed that I had to wait so long just to get a replacement, and hurts a little (i know its sad) to see my original transformer on ebay cos it was mine and i loved it.
But to be honest they have kept within their contract, which says if they can't fix it they will replace it. And repairs/replacements will take approx 3 weeks.
Nonetheless i will mention it when i go pick up my transformer on thursday and make a point of why I had to wait when they new they were going replace it atleast a week ago.
And just checked and it has been sold for £180
I wonder if I can interest anyone on this forum about a curious warranty situation. Also I hope I'm not outside the forum regulations on this general call for help. I would greatly appreciate any advice from people who faced similar circumstances.
The Story:
Following a botched repair attempt, I recently Googled around one of Samsung Electronics' warranty sidekick by the name of Anovo. Judging by the many terrible experiences people are having with them, I wish I had researched better before sending off my device. Then again you don't expect a reputable company to send you to the 'dogs'. Anovo honestly are not doing Samsung any 'service' either.
Anyone will know the top end Galaxy Note and the market value to be in the range £400-£500. The second hand value given any damage arguably around £200. I'm guessing this, based on the price of a working screen/digitiser.
Well I sent mine in for repair on 1st June 2012. I had just returned from holiday. The phone had been exposed to the very hot and sweaty conditions of my shirt pocket for several days. After reporting the phone as not powering and dead to warranty department, amazingly, that evening it suddenly came to life. I reported the change of circumstances immediately on their warranty number. I was surprised how courteous and welcoming the customer support rep was. I then used the device for 3 days all features working except main camera and stylus. Even battery consumption was the same. Why 3 days? I was in waiting for the envelope to arrive. I began to wonder if I should actually send it in or sell it. Optimistically I took a split decision to hand it in, hoping that Samsung repairs may correct what I thought in their eyes might be a very simple issue.
Cut a long story short, the phone came back completely dead again. The explanation... the phone is not covered under warranty due to water damage. OK let's say we accept the phone had water penetration given the conditions it was in, can anyone spot the strangeness?
Great! I hope anyone reading can appreciate a repair company is actually supposed to fix/return and not break items. Even if one were to argue 'well in the course of fixing something there is every possibility it can get worse'.
Surely this is why companies take out insurance and accept their liabilities. If it was working when it reached the repair desk, surely it should be returned to me in the same state it was sent?
Furthermore, I could not find any warranty terms and conditions to state that if in the repair process my phone failed, they would remove themselves from blame.
After having returned it to Anovo a second time with the same excuse yesterday, I really don't have much other options except legal. Anovo the shoddy firm that Samsung uses to repair the phones is going to return the item ...dead. The main thing they refuse to admit or discuss... if the engineer took notes that the item was working prior to opening it up.
In the meantime I will do my very best to let others know of the austerity measures others may experience when they return their part working phone under warranty.
PLEASE BEWARE SAMSUNG REPAIR PARTNERS MAY RETURN YOUR PHONE AS COMPLETELY DEAD IF THEY CANT FIX IT OR IF IT FAILS WARRANTY
Any independent comments or advice welcome. Am I justified in my expectation or not?
Unfortunately this "water damage" mallarchy (which I'm pretty certain was all started by apple with the iphone) is pretty standard practice now for most companies. I believe they have litmus strips within the phone which discolour when water gets to a dangerous level, but how accurate they are is anyone's guess.
I know I take my phone into the bathroom when I have a bath to listen to music and sing innapropriately and on more than one occasion I've taken the battery out days later to find worrying amounts of moisture collecting internally. Maybe I've just been lucky.
It does seem a little suspect that they return it completely unworking, and yes, I would definitely get back to them stating that they've sent it back worse off than when you sent it in. If you're in uk, it may be worth having a chat with citizens advice bureau. I find them incredibly persuasive for things like this.
All the best mate, hope you get something resolved satisfactorily.
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I have had my Note 3 for approx 2 weeks and I take great care of my devices and I have not had any fall or dropped my phone and carry it in my pocket with no other items eg keys etc.
I have just discovered a crack of the screen glass which runs form edge to edge in the top right corner by the front facing camera, what is even more baffling is that yesterday I placed a protective silicon case on the phone and there clearly has not been any impact but looks more like a stress crack. The case is a standard case that fits snugly but is not overtight.
As you can imagine I am seriously annoyed about this on a £600 phone and I really do not have the time to mess around with repairs, loan phones etc
Is there anybody else this has happened to?
Any advice suggestions do I contact Samsung or my Carrier which is O2 in the UK or general advice how best to deal with this.
Not had the screen crack but bottom right corner centre curve mine developed a tiny hairline split in the plastic didn't show on the outer edge or top face but if you looked on an angle in good light you could see it, also there was a gap on that corner very slight between the glass and fake plastic chrome. I ran a Stanley blade tip around the gap and it closed and the hair line crack isn't visible. My wife had the S3 before getting my mint titanium N2. The S3 also suffered from expansion contraction cracks in the fake aluminium banding, maybe due to the extreme temps here in Spain. I still think all the 5 minute reviewers were talking crap about the N2 plastic build quality, my old N2 still looks like new. I also hate the raised rim on the N3. The Note 2 felt edge less, very nice when swiping from the edge of the screen. The Note 3 feels like your playing inside a sand pit. The reason I bought the N2 titanium was soley because it didn't have the fake chrome. Any colour banding would have better than chrome, a gun metal like the N2 titanium would have been so much more premium looking.
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An update on this I have been to the O2 store twice now and they refuse point blank to replace the phone even though I am within the 14 day return window according to their TCs.
The manager at the store states that they cannot accept damaged phones I have now also noticed a rattle in the phone as previously stated the phone has not been dropped or subjected to any trauma and the casing is in pristine condiition. It should be obvious to anybody examining the phone that it has not been dropped or knocked as there would at least be some evidence of this on the external casing.
So now I am going to go through O2 complaints procedure and also contact Samsung to see if they can offer a resolution.
Any other advice that anyone can offer will be gratefully received.
waisal said:
An update on this I have been to the O2 store twice now and they refuse point blank to replace the phone even though I am within the 14 day return window according to their TCs.
The manager at the store states that they cannot accept damaged phones I have now also noticed a rattle in the phone as previously stated the phone has not been dropped or subjected to any trauma and the casing is in pristine condiition. It should be obvious to anybody examining the phone that it has not been dropped or knocked as there would at least be some evidence of this on the external casing.
So now I am going to go through O2 complaints procedure and also contact Samsung to see if they can offer a resolution.
Any other advice that anyone can offer will be gratefully received.
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From your initial post, you have already stated you don't have time to deal with loaners etc... so I feel your pain! The problem is shoddy workmanship on the device. I have had a few friends with similar problems noticed within a week after purchasing the device. Fortunately, they had a good relationship with their mobile reseller so their devices were swapped out and the mobile reseller has a lot of pull with Samsung since they buy lots of product. Samsung does not wish to lose their retailer support so will assist with a vendor return (RMA) versus the general consumer.
My only suggestion is to try to deal with the store directly as you have done previously. If the manager is unwilling to be empathetic towards your situation, ask them who the regional or territory manager is for the store and request for their information. If they refuse to provide this or you do not get the results you were hoping for, I would communicate with Samsung directly and explain the situation. Mention you do not take kindly to paying "X" amount for a phone only to encounter this type of situation. Explain as a consumer, you must follow the retail policies when situations happen but it's these retailers who represent Samsung and their product lineup to the consumer worldwide. Ask what they can do for you directly as you have no support through the retail channels representing their brand.
I'm sure they will do something and if not through the front-line channels of customer support, ask to speak with a manager or team leader. If this gets you nowhere, on principle, I would buy a new device and would escalate the matter to Samsung headquarters directly through a letter sent by courier with signature required so you have proof of acceptance. If you do not get a response within a timely fashion, file a small claims writ and take Samsung to court on this basis. Most likely, they would simply send you a refund as court costs for them would far exceed the cost of device replacement or refund. A judgement in your favor or out of court settlement would be based on 100% proof the damage was not user initiated but instead, a factory defect.
Hope this helps!
Further update spoken with both O2 customer services and also Samsung who directed me to take it to their approved repair centre locally (run by a third party but branded Samsung) for inspection. I drove to this centre where one of the technicians took a look and said we cannot repair this as the screen is cracked. I restated that it is obvious from the condition of the phone it has not been misused and asked to speak to the manager who said that Samsung will not authorise any warranty repair for a damaged screen and I would need to contact them again.
This is what I did and they sent a reply paid jiffy bag to send to their inhouse repair centre and today I have received a reply stating that I will have to pay for the repair as the warranty does not cover physical damage. I am massively frustrated and disillusioned by this as neither Samsung or O2 want to take responsibility for this and I am struggling to Know what to do next.
To be fair, they have to protect themselves. If any customer who dropped a phone (not saying you did) could get a refund, they would either go broke, or have to charge us all a lot more.
Their conditions assume that some trauma occurred, but your situation appears to be the < 1% of situations where the fault is caused by a manufacturing fault, not user abuse. You only way is to 'prove' that no user abuse has occurred. As you say, the pristine nature of the shell does back that up, and the fact is that such faults can and will occur.
Only one thing may be important as well: is the silicon case very tight? I am thinking that if it is, that stress could have caused an existing flaw in the glass to extend into a fracture. Again, proving it is next to impossible, but I would keep going up the chain until they accept it, but keep calm and polite. Eventually they will give in, I suspect.
Very true about phones that get damaged by misuse and drops etc. I have again spoke to Samsung customer services and restated everything but seem to be going round in circles so I have pursued a formal complaint and will be sending in photos. Also will look to get a independent inspection report but as you say I will probably have to prove that misuse did not occur as they do need to protect themselves but as one of the unfortunates with a damaged screen not due to physical trauma or misuse it leaves me with an extermely poor view of Samsung and certainly as a consumer will look to other manaufacturers from now on.
Hey guys, I'm in Europe and I have a question.
Back at the end of January, my phone started having a bright horizontal line that would run from top to bottom of the screen. And this would come and go. After a couple weeks, I realized that vibration (whether from the phone itself or the surface it was on) as well as applying pressure to the top right side of the screen or face would cause this to come and go. I even figured out I could shake it and have this happen. So something was loose. I chatted with samsung germany, and even after explaining this to them, they still had me factory reset the phone, which I did. That didn't work, so they wanted me to send it in. It took me a couple weeks to find a replacement phone, but I did and I sent my S7 Edge to Samsungs service center two Fridays ago.
They just sent me an e-mail telling me that it isn't covered by warranty because this was caused by rooting the phone. This is clearly a hardware issue. Furthermore, I thought in Europe it didn't matter if you rooted your phone. I've only ever had to send in my LG G4 for warranty, and they had no problem with it being rooted. What gives? What are my rights?
I feel like deciding never to buy a Samsung product again, and I'm in the market for a new tablet. So on a related note, any better tablets out there?
shiboby said:
Hey guys, I'm in Europe and I have a question.
Back at the end of January, my phone started having a bright horizontal line that would run from top to bottom of the screen. And this would come and go. After a couple weeks, I realized that vibration (whether from the phone itself or the surface it was on) as well as applying pressure to the top right side of the screen or face would cause this to come and go. I even figured out I could shake it and have this happen. So something was loose. I chatted with samsung germany, and even after explaining this to them, they still had me factory reset the phone, which I did. That didn't work, so they wanted me to send it in. It took me a couple weeks to find a replacement phone, but I did and I sent my S7 Edge to Samsungs service center two Fridays ago.
They just sent me an e-mail telling me that it isn't covered by warranty because this was caused by rooting the phone. This is clearly a hardware issue. Furthermore, I thought in Europe it didn't matter if you rooted your phone. I've only ever had to send in my LG G4 for warranty, and they had no problem with it being rooted. What gives? What are my rights?
I feel like deciding never to buy a Samsung product again, and I'm in the market for a new tablet. So on a related note, any better tablets out there?
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Rooting a Samsung phone has always voided the warranty. Some countries strictly enforce this other do not.
If it was a motherboard problem, the service centre would not have noticed the rooting flag and replaced the hardware with no questions asked. But since your problem involved the screen not the motherboard, service centres have the option of enforcing the warranty at their discretion.
You can either ask for the phone back and use it as is or pay for the repair.
Any rooted phone voids any warranty the manufacturer carries.
When you root your phone, you get these messages that pop up telling you that if you continue, you will probably void your warranty.
They put those warnings there to let you know before you start.
I know my replies can be long, but would rather give too much info, than not enough.
In Europe, your statutory warranty cannot be refused just because of the phone being rooted. That warranty, however, is with the business that sold you the phone, not with Samsung directly. Maybe try and go back to the seller (though you may have to argue your case to make them comply with their legal obligations!).
I'm from Portugal.
My phone is rooted I had to send it to service for repair and had zero problems.
gcogger said:
In Europe, your statutory warranty cannot be refused just because of the phone being rooted. That warranty, however, is with the business that sold you the phone, not with Samsung directly. Maybe try and go back to the seller (though you may have to argue your case to make them comply with their legal obligations!).
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so I would have to deal with Amazon Germany? That is a freightening thought, since they just had so many mess ups at the end of last summer that I actually cancelled my membership.
Do you have any law or other thing I could point to that would show them they have to replace the phone?