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I thought I'd post a thread for my fellow S6 users planning to move to the N5X.
I had the S6 with me since the launch day itself. I was hoping that due the popularity of the S lineup there could be CM support just like S3 had.
After almost 9 months of waiting I finally gave up.
Yes there is CM for S6 but it is no where near stability. Without a maintainer there wont be any. Samsung will never release sources for exynos.
These facts however cold they maybe are straight forward facts. The CM source we have has a lot of work to be done, and I am not talking about 2 or 3 lines of code. Hals need to be written from scratch and tested. I believe in open source mindset. If I have paid almost 800 usd for a piece of hardware I should have the right to put whatever software I want.
So finally I moved to the 5X.
1) The build does not feel cheap, its lighter than the s6 yet sturdy and does not feel fragile.
2) The power button is not as tactile as the one on the S6.
3) Display is really good. 1080 is enough and I have to try really hard to see the difference between fhd and qhd. This is my first IPS LCD phone all others have been amoleds and I am pleased to say that the display on N5X is really subtle on the eyes.
4) Camera is very good, almost close to the s6. The cam app is not that great but I am using manual camera so it dont matter.
5) BATTERY LIFE! N5X only loses 1% charge over night. Doze is just amazing. I am almost getting 6 to 6.5 hrs of SOT over a 1.5 to 2 days of usage. I'm pretty sure I can push it to 8hrs of SOT.
6) Fingerprint scanner is faster than the S6. and the positioning is more natural.
7) The front speaker is really good. I can hold the phone without worrying about blocking the speaker.
8) Fast charging is pretty much the same as S6.
9) Earpiece quality and clarity are 2x better than the one on S6 imo.
10) The phone does not throttle or heat up even on heavy use. SD 808 is just working fine.
So if you are planning to move on to 5X or 6P, I would say go for it.
P.S. I am not here to badmouth our beloved S6. I love the phone, but the software just doesn't live up. Stock android is 100% better than touchwiz when user experience is concerned.

Are your comparisons based on the s6 on lollipop or marshmallow? Cos a lot of the things have improved a hell of a lot on marshmallow for s6 and that's just beta and not final version. The 6p yes, 5x nahh

No front physical home button, no care.
I had a N4 and N7 (2012 & 2013). Meh.

Wider, taller and thicker. The 2 extra mm in width is especially noticeable in the hand--at least it was when I held it. The S6 is pretty much the limit for me in terms of size. But the worst thing about the NX5 is onboard memory. 32g max. That is the ultimate deal breaker. I keep a lot of music on my phone and like to store locally whatever movies I buy from the Play store or videos I watch from Amazon Prime so I don't need a connection to watch. Plus, it drains far less battery than streaming. A 10-episode series on Prime is like 11g by itself. Come on, get with the times and at least provide the option of 64g model.

Siddheshpatil said:
I thought I'd post a thread for my fellow S6 users planning to move to the N5X.
I had the S6 with me since the launch day itself. I was hoping that due the popularity of the S lineup there could be CM support just like S3 had.
After almost 9 months of waiting I finally gave up.
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Moral of the story: Don't buy a Samsung product (especially with an Exynos SoC) unless you're willing to live with TW. Things have changed since 2012.

CafeKampuchia said:
Moral of the story: Don't buy a Samsung product (especially with an Exynos SoC) unless you're willing to live with TW. Things have changed since 2012.
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I wish we had codeworkx working on S6. Samsung is being a real pain in the a s s. I do understand that their code has some really vital info that could help it's competitors but they can at least provide the basic documentation for the exynos soc.

Siddheshpatil said:
I wish we had codeworkx working on S6. Samsung is being a real pain in the a s s. I do understand that their code has some really vital info that could help it's competitors but they can at least provide the basic documentation for the exynos soc.
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That makes no business sense. Probably fewer than a few percent of users want to flash custom ROMs, and encouraging them to do so by releasing full sources only increases costly warranty claims. They've totally snubbed the development community, so it's time for us to either be content with TW or move on, IMO.

Siddheshpatil said:
I wish we had codeworkx working on S6. Samsung is being a real pain in the a s s. I do understand that their code has some really vital info that could help it's competitors but they can at least provide the basic documentation for the exynos soc.
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You guys over exagerate quite alot..stock rom especially with marshmallow is fast and smooth...im getting between 5.30-6 hours sot...
Nexus 5x is a inferior product compared to the s6...even the nexus 6p is not on par with the s6...the only one which is going to be worth getting in my opinion is the upcoming s7..and im going to get the s7 exynos variant not the snapdragon one.. simply because it will be faster.

loris100 said:
You guys over exagerate quite alot..stock rom especially with marshmallow is fast and smooth...im getting between 5.30-6 hours sot...
Nexus 5x is a inferior product compared to the s6...even the nexus 6p is not on par with the s6...the only one which is going to be worth getting in my opinion is the upcoming s7..and im going to get the s7 exynos variant not the snapdragon one.. simply because it will be faster.
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I never said that S6 was a slow phone. It's about what's opensource and what's not. Touchwiz on the S6 is the best I've seen on a samsung device. But the way samsung heavily modifies aosp and does not tell us is very unfair. Look at sony, they got their custom timescape UI, but still they support AOSP and provide the right sources.

Siddheshpatil said:
I never said that S6 was a slow phone. It's about what's opensource and what's not. Touchwiz on the S6 is the best I've seen on a samsung device. But the way samsung heavily modifies aosp and does not tell us is very unfair. Look at sony, they got their custom timescape UI, but still they support AOSP and provide the right sources.
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when cm13 stable lands for s6 you will regret the purchase of 5x...

thegtfusion said:
when cm13 stable lands for s6 you will regret the purchase of 5x...
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not happening in 3-4months,i think we can expect first stable build(with few bugs) in late 2016
the devs are doing it for fun,they can stop developing whenever they feel like and like OP said no "maintainer" so we cant expect a totally stable build
i wish samsung makes marshmallow tw as good as stock

ben_cool said:
not happening in 3-4months,i think we can expect first stable build(with few bugs) in late 2016
the devs are doing it for fun,they can stop developing whenever they feel like and like OP said no "maintainer" so we cant expect a totally stable build
i wish samsung makes marshmallow tw as good as stock
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by 3-4 months google will announce Android N release. Then there will be another reason to wait for samsung to release some source.

If you want development, the S6 shouldn't even be in contention. We buy the S6 for premium build and the built in tech like fprint scanner, IR Blaster, Heart Rate Monitor and crazy gorgeous screen.
Even with that ****ty CM, half the tech built in will not work properly so why buy the S6 hoping for CM?
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LNJ said:
If you want development, the S6 shouldn't even be in contention. We buy the S6 for premium build and the built in tech like fprint scanner, IR Blaster, Heart Rate Monitor and crazy gorgeous screen.
Even with that ****ty CM, half the tech built in will not work properly so why buy the S6 hoping for CM?
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The funny thing is... You sent this from an Iphone.

To the OP, any issues with the reported lag on the 5x? I'm looking elsewhere from my s6 because even on that "premium" phone, I get lag opening hangouts and even at times typing. I never had any problems on my previous original nexus 5.

I'm really stuck in this same move myself. I bought a s6 when my nexus 5died because it was the best hardware around. Little did I know that the monster of a processor would be gimped by poor ram management. I bought a 5x during the holidays and I really enjoy the stock Android and solid battery life.
Then they came out with the marshmallow beta and fixed most of my reservations - ran management, keyboard killing, fingerprint sensor speed, and standby drain. The mm build is competitive in enjoyment, at least until the next nexus comes out.

Siddheshpatil said:
The funny thing is... You sent this from an Iphone.
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I would be running a Nexus 6P if I didn't think that the SD810 was a step backward from the Exynos!
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Hardcore nexus and flashaholic user here since g1days. S6 is my first samsung. I had nexus 4, nexus 5, OPO, Nexus 6 most recently. 6 was nice but too bulky.
I'm really enjoying the stock samsung experience. Getting 4.5 hours SOT. Fast charge is super nice and I love spay and ir blaster remote. I run action launcher. I'm officially a reformed flashaholic.
Camera on this phone is excellent.
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I'm flasholic since i9000/9003. Last hardware running on cm was klte. Really like the layer theme and so on but after using new tw on s6, my bad behaviour gone slowly. And after trying beta 6.0 tw I send the resignation letter to bug hunter division. I guess I already too old for bug fighting.
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I have a s6 and just bought a nexus 6 , thats a great phone and cheaper than the 5x , keeping both , as they both have thier plus and minus , use my s6 with the gear vr and that is cool to watch movies , so plan to keep the s6 after the s7 is out for the vr side.
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Now that Samsung Galaxy S7 is here, how does it effects the scope of your Galaxy S6?

Well, Samsung did pull an Apple here. The launch of S7 felt like a bloated launch of iPhone 6s series. While not much changed on the outer shell of the phone, a lot of cool stuff got introduced inside the phone. :silly:
Waterproofing - IP68
SD Card is back
Insanely improved Camera with Dual Pixel auto focus and f1.7 lens
New display with Always on tech
A beastly processor upgrade - CPU/GPU brings significant gains over 7420
3000mAh of love.
IMHO, I feel that S6 was more of a pilot version on which S7 is banking with several upgrades above it.
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So, are you planning to upgrade to S7 or any worthy competitor like LG G5 or maybe even Xiaomi Mi5 (awesome VFM)? Also, given the poor tracks record of Samsung with software updates, do you think we will receive all software goodness and maybe an Always-on implementation (AMOLED, should be possible)?

No, actually i'm very happy with my S6, if do upgrade this year i will go for iPhone 7 if not then next year probably to S8(i had HTC and IMO LG UI's ugly)
1. only thing IMO worth upgrading to S7
2. 32gb is more than enough for me so no need for slow SD cards
3. I have DSLR for photos, phone camera is mostly used for instagram
4. It's probably only software that enables Always on display, since both are amoled
5. S6 is already pretty fast and lag less
6. Now that is awesome

I'm happy with my S6. The S7 looks nice and I'll probably update to it in seven or eight months, but for now I'm perfectly content.

I like Edge. I wanted to buy Edge+ but when i saw it in my hand poooof it was ugly IMHO! But Edge is very nice again IMO. So i stay with S6 Edge because 5.5 inch edge it is not nice.

No ir blaster is a deal breaker. Going to wait for the note 6 and pray it has one. If not then going to wait for the s8 and once again pray it has one.
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Nah, I'm waiting for new Nexus, until then I will use S6 with AOSP

I think s7 is rather targeted at s5 owners, so it is not a downgrade in ip68 and sdcard for them

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Looking like no Note6 Edge

It's increasingly looking like no Edge 2... i say we all keep our Note Edges going and not buy another Samsung this year around aswell, to make the point to Samsung.

I was gonna do it anyways since I really do appreciate the features the Edge screen has and I am cheap, but lets not kid ourselves, we are small niche. Most people don't really research phones just the mainstream phones they see on ads. This community is small enough on XDA. I doubt they'll notice. I mean hell, their OTA updates since 4.4.4 have turned the Note Edge into Note 4. Unfortunately I think our little phone and group is all thats gonna be left of a cool experiment that got trashed by the stupid mainstream phone reviewers

The Note Edge was a testbed for the upcoming S6 Edge. There were a lot of references for the "Zero Project" (S6 codename) in the Note 4 and Note Edge code. Both (N4 and N Edge) had a unique design language that was started with the Galaxy Alpha (which was also the testbed for the Galaxy A series) and ended with these devices. Both were stuck in the same User Interface over all their major updates. Both devices were -sadly- released when Samsung was already planning a new era of devices. Easily forgettable devices for both consumers and the manufacturer itself. The S6 Edge Plus replaced what "Note Edge 2" should had been and I'm pretty sure that an S7 Edge Plus would be the third one. Lets face it: Why do you want a pen with a curved canvas?

galaxynote2 said:
The Note Edge was a testbed for the upcoming S6 Edge. There were a lot of references for the "Zero Project" (S6 codename) in the Note 4 and Note Edge code. Both (N4 and N Edge) had a unique design language that was started with the Galaxy Alpha (which was also the testbed for the Galaxy A series) and ended with these devices. Both were stuck in the same User Interface over all their major updates. Both devices were -sadly- released when Samsung was already planning a new era of devices. Easily forgettable devices for both consumers and the manufacturer itself. The S6 Edge Plus replaced what "Note Edge 2" should had been and I'm pretty sure that an S7 Edge Plus would be the third one. Lets face it: Why do you want a pen with a curved canvas?
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For me it's been the best phone ever because of those two reasons

Yeah, I love my edge but see no future for me and Samsung. I will use this phone until my contract expires at the end of the year. It is not that hard for me as there is no real progress in technology I will miss out, isn't it? Maybe I will switch back to HTC..
zuz mobile / edge

galaxynote2 said:
The Note Edge was a testbed for the upcoming S6 Edge. There were a lot of references for the "Zero Project" (S6 codename) in the Note 4 and Note Edge code. Both (N4 and N Edge) had a unique design language that was started with the Galaxy Alpha (which was also the testbed for the Galaxy A series) and ended with these devices. Both were stuck in the same User Interface over all their major updates. Both devices were -sadly- released when Samsung was already planning a new era of devices. Easily forgettable devices for both consumers and the manufacturer itself. The S6 Edge Plus replaced what "Note Edge 2" should had been and I'm pretty sure that an S7 Edge Plus would be the third one. Lets face it: Why do you want a pen with a curved canvas?
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With a 5:10 screen ratio, S Pen and curved screen go together fine. Infact i much prefer the wider screen of my Note Edge, don't want to go back to skinny phones.

The Seperate screen is absolutely the best feature . The ability to multitask in this way is more productive than having multi screen!!! MARKETING BOYZ!!!

Sadly there are no more developers left for this phone. Everyone's developing roms for mainstream phones.

petethepete2000 said:
It's increasingly looking like no Edge 2... i say we all keep our Note Edges going and not buy another Samsung this year around aswell, to make the point to Samsung.
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Don't give up hope completely. There may be a second variant of Note 6 with curved edge. Not sure how good source is...
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...laxy-c5-galaxy-s7-active-leaked-online-835579

If rumors are repeated enough they become true...
http://www.theweek.co.uk/71388/samsung-galaxy-note-6-prices-specs-and-release-date

Just keepin the hope alive!
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...s-new-10nm-6gb-ram-edge-variant-tipped-840693

I'm waiting for the S10.
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Rumours suggest there will be

Note 7 AOD on S7?

hello.
I saw that the note 7 has the 1.7 version of Always on display and our s7 edge has the 1.3 version. Can that version be ported? Will it need root or it'll be just an upgrade for the app? I'm asking because s7 watchfaces are so boring and any 3rd party app might not change the position of the text and will cause burn in.
I personally think that we will have the same features as the note 7 on Android nougat.

I think so too. Just like samsung Cloud, the GS7 Edge will most likely receive the new AOD as well.
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Searching for the same, i liked the one at the Note 7 and waiting for the update to hit the S7 Edge

Well especially third party support for notifications like WhatsApp... can't wait for note aod on our s7

It's amazing with many many features , it's how should it be
Waiting for the update on fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqZ7g-0hwqY

Any news on this ? Did anyone manage to run the Note 7 AOD on a non-rooted S7 Edge ?

Cst79 said:
Any news on this ? Did anyone manage to run the Note 7 AOD on a non-rooted S7 Edge ?
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It'll come with the Android 7 update

From S6 to S8. Is it worth the upgrade?

Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!

ruanterino said:
Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!
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Better SOC, better graphics, better screen, more ram, more memory 64gb, sd card, better battery, better camera front and back, usb C, better performance overall......BUT if you didn't see all this already and you're still in doubt, might be that it doesn't worth the upgrade for you.

I did this. Battery almost 2x, Speed great, too.
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Same here. Switched from S6 Edge. It is a major upgrade in every way, just like OP said. No regrets.
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I upgraded from the S6 Edge to the S8
As the title says I upgraded from the s6 edge and let me tell you it is worth the upgrade! :good:
Not least of all the S8 is waterproof, having paid £250 to repair a water damaged s6 edge last year i think its worth upgrading for this reason alone.
I like the fact the finger print scanner is on the back - it never made sense to me that it was on the front in the first place.
Face unlocker is fast to react.
And I am just chumping at the bit to get a DEX like dock (however at this point not willing to pay £110 for it).

Interesting comments.
I am really tempted into upgrading it. Since my S6 sometimes struggle when I'm scrolling on Chrome or Facebook, and I'm too far down.
I think it is time for that upgrade!
Is the battery really enough? I mean.. 3000 mAH on the S8.

ruanterino said:
Interesting comments.
I am really tempted into upgrading it. Since my S6 sometimes struggle when I'm scrolling on Chrome or Facebook, and I'm too far down.
I think it is time for that upgrade!
Is the battery really enough? I mean.. 3000 mAH on the S8.
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Battery life has been a mixed bag for me - I'm not quite seeing as good a result as I've seen many post but it's likely due to varying conditions. It definitely gets better life than my S6 - I wouldn't make it to Noon with that and I start my day, off the charger at 430am. With the S8, I get through the entire day, no problem but might need a hit from the fast charger if I do some browsing after dinner...

ruanterino said:
Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!
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Well you can upgrade but i recommend waiting for another phone with the same SOC...
My dad bought the S8 and is pretty meh...Narrow design, same screen as the s6 just bigger and slightly higher res which makes it looks strange...camera is the same as an S6 on good light conditions and slightly better on dark conditions...Figerprint positioning is absurd...Battery is not that good...SOC is newer but you wont notice any difference unless you try hard...And the price is way too high for whats is worth...

I dont want to start a new thread but i am wondering the same but i am coming from a oneplus one.. again is their any bonus in upgrading.. and how is development for samsung devices

i went from s6 edge + to s8. Very happy so far. the form factor fits better in the hand, software is fine. I like the back being glass. good feel overall.

A BIG YES. I upgrade from a s7 edge and to me it was so worth it

If you like the S6 and want to stay with Samsung, I'd say yes. Otherwise, I'd say wait until more info is available on the Google Pixel 2.

It's such a large upgrade from the S6 it's silly to even have to talk about all the reasons why. For comparison, the S8+ made the S7 Edge seem very dated. There is no comparison, unless you like old, slow phones with far inferior displays, memory size, camera..... I could go on. Not even in the same ballpark. By far the best phone made to date - S8/S8+. That changes every 6 months or so with a new phone taking the crown, but right now this is the top dog.

Agree, S8&S8+ are top-of-the-foodchain!

How are the lags on the S8? Because on the S6 when I'm scrolling in chrome or facebook I get lags. Usual android thing. That's what making me wonder if I should wait iphone 8 or get the galaxy s8. Btw, I don't plan going to Google Pixel 2 because I like the Samsung devices. I've always had Samsung phones. Tried Nexus once but I'm not a fan of stock android.

Upgraded today to the Grey/silver version from S6.
Ordered awesome spigen case too.
Role on Friday.

ruanterino said:
How are the lags on the S8? Because on the S6 when I'm scrolling in chrome or facebook I get lags. Usual android thing. That's what making me wonder if I should wait iphone 8 or get the galaxy s8. Btw, I don't plan going to Google Pixel 2 because I like the Samsung devices. I've always had Samsung phones. Tried Nexus once but I'm not a fan of stock android.
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Zero lag in anything I have done on my S8+. Smoothest, fastest phone I have ever used.

I went from s6 Edge to S8. I think it's worth it. The battery is much better. Bigger screen, not as wide so easier to hold. It's pretty better all around. If you got nougat on your s6 then the software experience will not feel drastically different. Haven't really tested the camera head to head yet.

teegunn said:
It's such a large upgrade from the S6 it's silly to even have to talk about all the reasons why. For comparison, the S8+ made the S7 Edge seem very dated. There is no comparison, unless you like old, slow phones with far inferior displays, memory size, camera..... I could go on. Not even in the same ballpark. By far the best phone made to date - S8/S8+. That changes every 6 months or so with a new phone taking the crown, but right now this is the top dog.
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I have to disagree with you on a few points:
"far inferior displays" - Just because the S8 has a more futuristic look with its smaller bezels and increased height over the S6 I don't see it being fair to consider the S6 to be far inferior. The S6 featured an incredible screen at its time, and compared to alot of flagships out there it still is an amazing screen anno 2017! (pixeldensity is still better on the S6 vs the S8 by the way)
"memory size" - Just because the S8 features 1GB more, it does not mean that you actually use it. Just because it looks better on paper does not make it essential in daily usage. 4GB future proof? Yes! Absolutely necessary at this moment? Probably not.
"camera" - If you are talking about the front facing camera, then yes probably you are right. The rear camera however is only marginaly improved over the S6.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the S8 beats the S6 in all of those points, but I think its actual difference in daily usage is to be argued whether the TS needs to upgrade or not

From S6 Edge to S8 is a perfect upgrade at all levels. I gave S6 to dad and I am using S8