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The farce is over, original post's author was blocked in that forum.
Sorry for bring such rumor here and spamming you in last few weeks, so sorry. I'm working on collecting and reporting argen2stone 1.9's feedbacks on Chinese forum for making a better next release.
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I just see this post at a Chinese android phone forum:
Milestone 2将在5月16日升级Android 2.3，请大家耐心等待 ( Milestone 2 will be upgrade to Android 2.3 on 16th,May, please be patient )
http://bbs.gfan.com/android-1256936-1-1.html(Chinese contents)
Original post said( sorry for my terrible English ):
I heard some internal information: Milestone 2 will be upgrade to Android 2.3 on 16th,May, please don't ask me where I got it. I'm a professor here so please believe that I never talk nonsense, that's true.
Be patient please, If this update is not released before midnight of 17th, I will eat my phone, my computer case, my monitor, my speakers, even my computer desk.
Just wait for it.
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I don't know whether it's true, at least this post bring hopes to MS2's users.
If this is true then.... Cooooollllll !!!
Would absolutely be amazing. Don't know if I'm gonna believe it, though. Too much disappointment already...
Very good :-D
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It is forum of mainland China, aren't their ROM build has some different from other regions?
But I do hope it is real
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But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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oTToToTenTanz said:
But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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Yes, I really said that in another post . I don't know whether it's true, because these news both came from some websites.
I'm sorry if these make you confused, but I just want to bring some news here .
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oTToToTenTanz said:
But wasn't it you, waigx, who said that Hongkong manager said there wont be an update for the milestone 2?
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I also saw this news before
The manager of moto of asia pacific region (hong kong, tai wan etc) said there will NOT be 2.3 update of milestone2.
However, moto in China have a different manager, and their ROM build is different from us(hong kong), so it still could be true that a 2.3 might release in China. If it is real, are our great developers able to use that 2.3 kernal to build their ROM?
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im not sure how true that post is, but if it is true, it is good news then i suppose like for all motorola android phone owners, its a waiting game more than anything else.
just on a seperate note, i looked through the official motorola software upgrade website, and there has been nothing stated for an upcoming update on the milestone 2 (no matter which region). i have been checking this website regularly and nothing so far
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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im not sure how true that post is, but if it is true, it is good news then i suppose like for all motorola android phone owners, its a waiting game more than anything else.
just on a seperate note, i looked through the official motorola software upgrade website, and there has been nothing stated for an upcoming update on the milestone 2 (no matter which region). i have been checking this website regularly and nothing so far
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I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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yeah, i think you're right.
PS. Then i would try out agent2stone, hope there would be little bugs.
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yet again as i stated, there is no announcement of any update on the official motorola software upgrade website. if what this person with insider information says is true, what i feel is on May 16th, Motorola would officially announce a scheduled date for an update release. i highly doubt that they would push for an update without announcing the launch of the update first
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Your opinion is quite reasonable, but consider the Droid X's OTA upgrade to Android 2.3.3, it's still possible that MS2 will got a update without official announcements .
However, the original post's credibility is still worth discussing.
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I doubt the message refers to me722 (retail model in china), since this message appeared in a domestic forum in china. ME722 has its own version of android os, specially customized to adjust local market. However, that version is a little different from other versions. Touch screen is less sensitive and some apps installed requested by carriers. Although me722 can use firmware from other parts of the world, language may course problem.
I have read the original post. The new came from a person who claimed to have some inside information from a motorola employee. I doubt he referred to an employee in china branch.
So, it's hard to say whether there would be an update for global users.
Personally, I hope my concerns are all mistaken, since I'm also expecting an update from motorola. I'm currently running UK firmware, quite satisfied.
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I'm using UK firmware too, ME722's ROM is quite terrible : Less sensitive of touch screen, No google service (even the Android Market and Gmail), Lots of rubbish, Different baseband ...
After all it still a good news isn't it? Because Milestone 2's hardwares of different retail version are exactly the same ( except the baseband which can be switched easily ), moto dev teams in other region can release updates very soon. And, we can also modify Chinese ROM just like agent2stone.
But I still don't know whether original post is true.
WongJames said:
I also saw this news before
The manager of moto of asia pacific region (hong kong, tai wan etc) said there will NOT be 2.3 update of milestone2.
However, moto in China have a different manager, and their ROM build is different from us(hong kong), so it still could be true that a 2.3 might release in China. If it is real, are our great developers able to use that 2.3 kernal to build their ROM?
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I really hope it's true, after 2.3 kernel rom of Milestone2 released in P.R.China, it much easier for our developers to port this to a global version .
waigx said:
Your opinion is quite reasonable, but consider the Droid X's OTA upgrade to Android 2.3.3, it's still possible that MS2 will got a update without official announcements .
However, the original post's credibility is still worth discussing.
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im afraid i didnt know that the droid X was upgraded to gingerbread. however, i did note 2 articles claiming rather contrasting pieces of news:
1. apparently the droid PRO is getting a software update. however its not to 2.3.x as most people anticipated. instead its a bugfix for the current 2.2 its on. so most likely it'll be some version of 2.2.x
REF: http://technewsperk.com/featured/motorola-droid-pro-software-update-available-now/
2. on the other hand, apparently Atrix customers are getting emails to beta test a software upgrade for their phone. however, apparently one customer got not one but 2 updates. im not too sure about the details of these updates as yet
REF: http://phandroid.com/2011/04/20/mot...atrix-4g-owners-to-test-new-software-upgrade/
considering the milestone 2 is no where near as popular as the flagship Atrix or droid X, i think that these flagships would be rewarded with some form of 2.3.x first before other Droids receive the gingerbread update. in the mean time, unfortunately im forced to think that the A953, and all global derivatives of it would be forced into the same fate as the Droid Pro for the time being- that is receiving a bug fix update (2.2.x) before the release of a 2.3.x can be made possible
EDIT- UPDATE:
i happened to notice these articles around, apparently announcing some form of a droid 2 update featuring gingerbread (2.3.x). Do check it out:
1. http://phandroid.com/2011/03/28/mot...gerbread-2-3-3-roms-leak-how-to-install-them/
2. http://phandroid.com/2011/02/22/mystery-droid-2-update-floating-around/
3. http://phandroid.com/2011/03/29/the...eaked-gingerbread-for-motorola-droid-x-and-2/
hope somebody could shed some light on the authenticity of these articles...cheers
Old news, that GB leak is out since almost 2 weeks... and the other "mistery update" since a month or something..
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Old news, that GB leak is out since almost 2 weeks... and the other "mistery update" since a month or something..
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oh alright. thanks for the feedback
I'm more interested about Motorola right now, lets see what they planed, boost the sells of Atrix by saying "we will unlock our devices"?.. but thats offtopic lol.. to the topic.. well china .. i dont think that their 2.3 would be a big use for us.. but maybe the kernel? .. wouldnt we get the Kernel to work on our phones since its signed and throw a EU/US 2.3 on it? .. i mean it would be a Kernel.. wich works for And2.3.. so idk if that would be any help ..
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I'm more interested about Motorola right now, lets see what they planed, boost the sells of Atrix by saying "we will unlock our devices"?.. but thats offtopic lol.. to the topic.. well china .. i dont think that their 2.3 would be a big use for us.. but maybe the kernel? .. wouldnt we get the Kernel to work on our phones since its signed and throw a EU/US 2.3 on it? .. i mean it would be a Kernel.. wich works for And2.3.. so idk if that would be any help ..
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it is quite highly unlikely though that they release an update for China and leave the other countries out. This phone is rather popular in Malaysia, Singapore, India, USA and Brazil from what i know. Perhaps a global update of some sort is in the pipeline...its just that the news of an update in China was leaked?
Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that a new OTA update (B151) was pushed out for honor 5X KIW-L24. This is a staged rollout, so it could take up to a week to reach your device. The full update.app file will be posted on the official support site soon. We are also waiting on the correct, updated kernel source to be posted as well. Thank you everyone that provided feedback and helped test this release.
More info: http://club.hihonor.com/us/blog.31/honor-5x-receives-new-software-update.771
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Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that a new OTA update (B151) was pushed out for honor 5X KIW-L24. This is a staged rollout, so it could take up to a week to reach your device. The full update.app file will be posted on the official support site soon. We are also waiting on the correct, updated kernel source to be posted as well. Thank you everyone that provided feedback and helped test this release.
More info: http://club.hihonor.com/us/blog.31/honor-5x-receives-new-software-update.771
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That's some good news for honor 5x community.
Specially waiting for updated kernel source.
Thanks huawei for supporting us!
Is this mm?? Also are you abandoning your other variants?? We didn't even get the b140 update... Wth??
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Faheemarif252 said:
Is this mm?? Also are you abandoning your other variants?? We didn't even get the b140 update... Wth??
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It's 5.1.1 ?
can anyone be so kind as to capture the OTA file and post link please?
wimbet said:
Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that a new OTA update (B151) was pushed out for honor 5X KIW-L24. This is a staged rollout, so it could take up to a week to reach your device. The full update.app file will be posted on the official support site soon. We are also waiting on the correct, updated kernel source to be posted as well. Thank you everyone that provided feedback and helped test this release.
More info: http://club.hihonor.com/us/blog.31/honor-5x-receives-new-software-update.771
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its so unfair that l21 and l22 models are left behind.
wimbet said:
Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that a new OTA update (B151) was pushed out for honor 5X KIW-L24. This is a staged rollout, so it could take up to a week to reach your device. The full update.app file will be posted on the official support site soon. We are also waiting on the correct, updated kernel source to be posted as well. Thank you everyone that provided feedback and helped test this release.
More info: http://club.hihonor.com/us/blog.31/honor-5x-receives-new-software-update.771
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How about updating your european devices as well, or is it just a fact what i'm assuming, that being that Honor doesn't give jack-**** about Europe?
I don't think you can fault Honor for trying to fight there way into the western market. There competing against big-boy established companys.
Anyways the updates aren't much of anything, if they don't update to marshmallow with all the other varients, I could see being disappointed
Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
I don't think you can fault Honor for trying to fight there way into the western market. There competing against big-boy established companys.
Anyways the updates aren't much of anything, if they don't update to marshmallow with all the other varients, I could see being disappointed
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Seeing the way they're handling updates so far for this device, I have my doubts if Europe or anyone else is going to get Marshmallow any time soon... Also I don't care who they have to fight against, if you can't keep up, don't step up, it's that simple.
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Seeing the way they're handling updates so far for this device, I have my doubts if Europe or anyone else is going to get Marshmallow any time soon... Also I don't care who they have to fight against, if you can't keep up, don't step up, it's that simple.
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I don't know the numbers...... But did they sell 1 phone in Europe and 10 million in the US? I know that sounds extreme, but makes good business sense to support the majority.
We don't know what the software team at honor is anyway, could be one person handling variants and a whole team handling the states.
The phone has only been released for a short time and we know they are working on updates, so they haven't ditched the development.
Just saying be patient because you haven't had a update "NOW"
We have a working CM ROM anyways, why would you want to use stock?
Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
I don't know the numbers...... But did they sell 1 phone in Europe and 10 million in the US? I know that sounds extreme, but makes good business sense to support the majority.
We don't know what the software team at honor is anyway, could be one person handling variants and a whole team handling the states.
The phone has only been released for a short time and we know they are working on updates, so they haven't ditched the development.
Just saying be patient because you haven't had a update "NOW"
We have a working CM ROM anyways, why would you want to use stock?
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I don't WANT to use stock, but it would be nice to receive other updates like bootloaders etc. before I make the switch to CM13. Seeing as that is unlikely though, i'll switch before the Weekend is over.
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I don't WANT to use stock, but it would be nice to receive other updates like bootloaders etc. before I make the switch to CM13. Seeing as that is unlikely though, i'll switch before the Weekend is over.
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Agreed.
I'm coming from a Oneplus One ,and its great to have dialect between an actual manufacturer and user.
Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
Agreed.
I'm coming from a Oneplus One ,and its great to have dialect between an actual manufacturer and user.
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has anyone actually gotten the update yet ? I sure could use the Download URL
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has anyone actually gotten the update yet ? I sure could use the Download URL
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Haven't seen it either, sorry.
I'm sticking with the CM builds right now, which are working great.
I just couldn't get used to MIUI/EMUI.
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If Honor/Huawei is wanting to compete against big-boy established companies, then he has to offer better and quicker support !!!
I left Asus and Samsung because of the bad firmware support and I just hope Honor/Huawei is NOT just following the same way...
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Totally agree. I just think its to soon to judge the rollouts yet.
We know that they are working on updates, I hope they continue.
Other than bands and languages, isn't software the same? ROMs for L24 with B140, work on L21 and L22. However, the US version only comes with 2GB RAM, whereas other variants come with 3GB from what I've heard.
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Other than bands and languages, isn't software the same? ROMs for L24 with B140, work on L21 and L22. However, the US version only comes with 2GB RAM, whereas other variants come with 3GB from what I've heard.
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Only Chinese version is 3gb... While all other variants like l21 etc are 2gb
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For anyone asking about device variants from other regions, please visit hihonor.com to be directed to your regional site. For example, I see that India has also started their beta for Android M - http://club.hihonor.com/in/topic-971
I have no received any update yet to 151. Wonder whats taking so long.
The updates are merely security updates. They are being pushed by regions. There is little to no change in the UI between 140 and 151, but there is some more bloat. Additional apps like Kindle and Amazon, which you may or may not want.
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I have no received any update yet to 151. Wonder whats taking so long.
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All OTAs are staged rollouts. They release to more devices each day, and can take up to a week to complete.
The full firmware file is available for anyone to manually install - http://www.hihonor.com/us/support/details/?DOC_ID=78043
So i receive many questions about this via PM and other topics as i have a good contact with ZTE so i thought I'd create one where you guys can post your comments.
Ive raised this topic to them and they are discussing it. I will keep this main post updated with what i hear.
Update 05/01/17
Official Bootloader Unlock is coming. It was delayed through there not being a great process to release it and the various updates the ZTE have provided to fix bugs. I am still on a root version of b03 and there is a stock b09 version currently. However, the root version i was given is great and works flawlessly. Ive been promised that another root release is coming very soon and will become official.
Potential EU Bootloader Unlock - Needs testers! Thanks @DrakenFX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-stay-t3461165
Why did USA get a bootloader unlock?
> The phone has been released to the open market there and under USA law they can remove the warranty if a bootloader is requested. From what i have read/understand in EU they have to commit to their warranty no matter what.
> It was all decided hastily internally within the USA team without contacting the worldwide team, neither had a clue of what each other was doing, but due to my efforts it looks like they are communicating.
> ZTE promise they dont want to discriminate.
What is happening with the EU?
It is coming. You wont lose warranty.
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
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Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
Best Regards
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
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Even doesn't do anything on his own when enable, is needed when official bootloader unlock arrive.
thought a fastboot oem unlock would suffice, but didn't try it yet.
But that they kept that option there is just pure torture
What ZTE should realize regarding the bootloader unlock is that they have 2 options to build trust with the customers, especially considering last year's Axon has not received Marshmallow and will not receive Marshmallow (at some point customer service said it would, which makes the whole thing even worse).
Either let people unlock the bootloader and provide long term software support through the dev community or promise updates for at least 2 years. Buying what is essentially a flagship device (and *the* flagship of ZTE) and then possibly not receiving anything beyond Nougat (which I expect them to deliver at the very least because of Daydream) would be a huge letdown. I can accept that with <200€ phones, whose hardware probably doesn't really hold up anyways after 2 years, but I expect more from a 400€ phone that is the top of the line from that brand. This holds true especially considering that the other two big competitors in the same price range (the OP3 and the Honor 8) do provide at least one of those assurances. So far, the Axon 7 does not and that's worrisome given both some of the flaws in the current software (notification bell, video playback issues etc) and their own history with last year's Axon.
Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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tbf, idc if they fix the querks of MiFavour and we still got Root
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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that's realy sad, will have to start looking for another phone and send the axon7 back
Thats a deal breaker..
Can't we get any solutions for the europe phones from the A2017U unlock? Are they so different?
Really bad news. I hope they will re-think this decision
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recieved mine today and right after unpacking i saw this thread with the bad news.
if there's no new info about the bootloader untill the end of next week it's gonna get returned.
not gonna gamble on someone maaayyybe finding an exploit in a year...
Oh well, they better rethink this or OP3 it is. Been on the edge the whole time. But wanted to give it a go due to the cool hardware. I can still cancel that order on the Axon and will probably do that as soon as this get official.
Please help me.
We have the US version with the 20B update from which you can unlock your boot loader with the 20B_boot update.
One guy has flashed the b02 version for the Europe devices on his A2017U US phone. Correct?
Can't we flash the 20B version to our Europe A2017G phones and unlock them with the 20b_boot version?
Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
Keiler90 said:
Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
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Not really -- the OTAs are block level patches, not file patches. Someone would have to dump and compare the partitions before and after. The system image would probably be easy, fastboot is provided as a full image, but for the other images (boot and recovery), you'd have to dive into the assembly and/or tear apart the kernel.
I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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All valid points. But no unlocked bootloader = no custom roms = no buy, simple as that.
Especially with a company with a bad or at very least doubtful reputation to provide software updates for a reasonably long/adequate period.
But as you say, that's my choice. And from what I can tell many others will make the same choice. Owning an Android is all about freedom of choice and customization, especially for people her on XDA (obviously). I do like the phone but I don't necessarily like the software on it, or at least not all of it.
I would go for the One+ 3, but no SD card slot = no buy.
I have owned enough android phones to know what I consider essential features and I buy my phones accordingly.
And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
Sound is better, true, but I listen exclusively with headphones so nice speakers are a bonus. My Bluetooth speaker still has better sound
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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This.
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And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
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I think 1080p is an absolutely fine resolution for 5.5", but 1080p PenTile? Eh. Not quite hitting the mark for me.
Is it just me Huawei is ignoring or is it the whole middle Eastern region?
Why are they taking so long to push these updates?
Any way to contact Huawei team specifically for this problem.
Don't wanna mail customer service as they will just say what they always say.
"We are working on it, you will get this update in the near future".
Maybe you can try this method to debrand your phone and update from Europe...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/firmwares-updates-official-beta-plk-l01-t3428454
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Maybe you can try this method to debrand your phone and update from Europe...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/firmwares-updates-official-beta-plk-l01-t3428454
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Thanks. I know about rebranding but my question is still the same
Honor 5X forum has a similar discussion. Why is middle Eastern customers treated as the least favored by Huawei?
Either they should push the updates together for EU and ME or at most should have a delay of a month or so?
I just want to get this to Huawei that customers are talking about it and they should try to make their service a bit better for all.
muradulislam said:
Thanks. I know about rebranding but my question is still the same
Honor 5X forum has a similar discussion. Why is middle Eastern customers treated as the least favored by Huawei?
Either they should push the updates together for EU and ME or at most should have a delay of a month or so?
I just want to get this to Huawei that customers are talking about it and they should try to make their service a bit better for all.
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Maybe the market share in ME is less than Europe... a business consideration.
jerryhou85 said:
Maybe the market share in ME is less than Europe... a business consideration.
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Well, China already had its mobile boom, now India is an emerging market for cellphone sales...
Even if we say, ME customers have less market share, that is gonna change in 4,5 years max. A brand is all about brand loyalty.
If existing customers are not satisfied, how can we suggest new customers to adopt the brand.
As an example, if someone asks me of buying honor, for sure I will tell them update delays and compare it to other brands which are not biased.
muradulislam said:
Well, China already had its mobile boom, now India is an emerging market for cellphone sales...
Even if we say, ME customers have less market share, that is gonna change in 4,5 years max. A brand is all about brand loyalty.
If existing customers are not satisfied, how can we suggest new customers to adopt the brand.
As an example, if someone asks me of buying honor, for sure I will tell them update delays and compare it to other brands which are not biased.
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It's common for late upgrade from brand to brand. SONY and Samsung have been alwasy late for new upgrades across regions too, not even mention HTC who barely upgrade...
jerryhou85 said:
It's common for late upgrade from brand to brand. SONY and Samsung have been alwasy late for new upgrades across regions too, not even mention HTC who barely upgrade...
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I never faced these problems as i always used China specific Roms before... Honor 7 is my first device which is not a Chinese model.
As for Samsung and Sony, which region do you think is updated the last? Or is it random?
Also if EU update was pushed later than ME, don't you think, a lot of users would have raised the same question?
Problem is, ME customers, imo, are not so interested in what's happening with updates and why?
EU customers, on the other hand, delve more into the details and in hows and whys?
Its been a day since this post and not a single ME honor 7 customer has come along to voice his/her opinion...
muradulislam said:
I never faced these problems as i always used China specific Roms before... Honor 7 is my first device which is not a Chinese model.
As for Samsung and Sony, which region do you think is updated the last? Or is it random?
Also if EU update was pushed later than ME, don't you think, a lot of users would have raised the same question?
Problem is, ME customers, imo, are not so interested in what's happening with updates and why?
EU customers, on the other hand, delve more into the details and in hows and whys?
Its been a day since this post and not a single ME honor 7 customer has come along to voice his/her opinion...
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I remember my SONY Xperia Z always has Hong Kong/Singapore releases first. China region is alwasy slower.
I think it's still a new thing for Chinese companies to release upgrades for international market, so still some issues inbetween.
Why bother? Just debrand and at the end of the day you have the most updated H7 it can be.
Problem solved. And it´s better than going around trying to find answers only Huawei knows and doesnt tell.
zinko_pt said:
Why bother? Just debrand and at the end of the day you have the most updated H7 it can be.
Problem solved. And it´s better than going around trying to find answers only Huawei knows and doesnt tell.
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Well said, actually I have too much time on my hands these days. Spend it surfing XDA all day long and when can not find anything to do, try to find new ways to keep myself busy:laugh:
If you want to see if ME people cares for new updates or not, check HonorArabia twitter account, most of the twits are about the updates.
We can choose any other brand since all of the brands are available in the markets, it's huawei's loss.
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haneya said:
If you want to see if ME people cares for new updates or not, check HonorArabia twitter account, most of the twits are about the updates.
We can choose any other brand since all of the brands are available in the markets, it's huawei's loss.
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Great:good:. Huawei needs to know that we care...
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Just got a reply from Huawei Pakistan and they want me to take my phone to a service center to get the updates.
Well, I am gonna debrand my phone tomorrow... Can't wait more to get my updates.
Thanks all for being in the discussion
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And then Huawei Pakistan just think there was no problem after all, as you didn't show up to get updates and the problem lives on:good:
HonorCasper said:
And then Huawei Pakistan just think there was no problem after all, as you didn't show up to get updates and the problem lives on:good:
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Lol... Yeah, that's why I did not debrand after all.
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muradulislam said:
Lol... Yeah, that's why I did not debrand after all.
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That's good mate, what did u do?:fingers-crossed:
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Well I started a thread to find out what I did wrong but no replies till now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/general/honor-tool-skipped-step-t3473876/page1
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muradulislam said:
Just got a reply from Huawei Pakistan and they want me to take my phone to a service center to get the updates.
Well, I am gonna debrand my phone tomorrow... Can't wait more to get my updates.
Thanks all for being in the discussion
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Honor 5x got its MM update for Middle east yesterday. Honor 7 also will get it soon. Patience is the key.
vsriram92 said:
Honor 5x got its MM update for Middle east yesterday. Honor 7 also will get it soon. Patience is the key.
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Well, honor 7 already has MM for middle east but the EU already got B371 and B380 with bug fixes and improvements while ME customers are still waiting.
The actual question is, why are we treated as the least favored?
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muradulislam said:
Well, honor 7 already has MM for middle east but the EU already got B371 and B380 with bug fixes and improvements while ME customers are still waiting.
The actual question is, why are we treated as the least favored?
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Think in this way. You are atleast favoured..
My variant has no updates. Still remaining as it is when I get it. They said not to expect updates too.
Cos there are only 2 to 3 persons expecting update for this variant. Preference will be given based on the expectations raised by that particular model users.
Devs are working on the priority of the regions. Everyone wont get the update at the same time. It takes time to develop for a particular region, add language support to it, satisfy the carriers, satisfy and accompany the sponsors, compatibility to sponsor apps., Etc.
The above mentioned factors takes more time for Middle East and even Malaysian variant.
We can't blame a single entity for getting late update.
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
johnhux7 said:
I have been taking to Honor UK on hangouts.
Honor has no plans to release EMUI 5.1 at the MO.
They also said about the promice of updates :
"The "promise" was a Honor US thing. No European countries were part of that."
They also said :
"The Honor 8 is due to get an update soon. As to what's in that again no info."
These are exact copies of what they said.
Will post more when they say more
John
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"We are committed to updates, we just don't want to be caught out by publishing press releases with timescales in."
"The whole deal with XDA again was a US, neither Honor US or XDA consulted us before announcing the relationship."
John
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I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...
morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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ViCioPT said:
It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...
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I'm in the Honor H8 fut and there has been no talk of any updates only security patches are in the works and their released untested
Interesting read here >> http://m.androidcentral.com/heres-why-huawei-launching-p10-canada-not-us
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morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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This is really good.
It's exactly why I posted the messages that i did so people know exactly what's going on.
Us taking about our selfs doesn't come up with facts and that's what we need FACTS.
I will keep messaging them and will keep posting what is said.
We need to email them on mass and let them know just how we all feel about this
John
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What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.
brownd7380 said:
What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.
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Email them through your hicare app
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Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.
I'm a big fan of the Honor/Huawei camera, its the best out of all brands I've used including Apple, but they need to improve the updates and release the kernel source. For a moment I was close to selling the Honor 8 and getting a OnePlus for a better software experience, but I managed to go jump through hoops to manually update the phone.
I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.
tekkitan said:
I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.
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If you got your phone for a good price and you're happy with it, it's good for you. This thread exposes some facts and its aim is to get a "minimal" support from Huawei. So, maybe we'll move to something else 'honestly' in a near future. But many users can't afford it
Don't get it. People are calling some underpaid support guy on the customer level, mostly not really tech avid guys and quite uninformed and than believe what they're saying? Honestly?
There is only one department for outside communication. And you never talk to them. Relax and don't believe what so [email protected] guy is saying you, as they often get informations even later than the customers.
nivity said:
Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.
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I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD
Dude905 said:
I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD
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Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.
Yeah, I like the hardware especially at the price but software support is too poor for me to ever consider Honor again. Too many bugs and too few fixes.
It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.
faeArai said:
It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.
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I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.
colliflower1107 said:
I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.
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Yes your so right there.
We need to put pressure into them in order to get what we need.
They do response to messages in Thier Google+ groups
droidboy29 said:
Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.
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That maybe so . I wouldn't need another phone for a few years . When that day does come I will make sure beforehand which company provides a good phone and support, one thing is for sure it wouldn't be Huawei
I want Security updates once a month.
B360 has the patches from three and a half months ago.
That's...crap, honestly.
I'm not asking for shiny new features and the latest version of Android. Those would be great, but EMUI 5.1's not horribly out of date. Security fixes so my data's not stolen or device ****ed up are kind of important.