As of August 31, 2016, VZW customers grandfathered into the unlimited data plan will no longer be able to go over 100 gigabytes monthly. Your line will be disconnected and VZW will give you 50 days for you to switch to a tiered plan. Hope the FCC can do something about this. What's the point of having unlimited data if we can't go over 100gb? There has to be a contractual limitation with what Verizon has planned for us unlimited users... I don't have internet service so I just use my hotspot. If this goes into effect, I'll be switching to AT&T after being loyal to Verizon for 11 years.
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As of August 31, 2016, VZW customers grandfathered into the unlimited data plan will no longer be able to go over 100 gigabytes monthly. Your line will be disconnected and VZW will give you 50 days for you to switch to a tiered plan. Hope the FCC can do something about this. What's the point of having unlimited data if we can't go over 100gb? There has to be a contractual limitation with what Verizon has planned for us unlimited users... I don't have internet service so I just use my hotspot. If this goes into effect, I'll be switching to AT&T after being loyal to Verizon for 11 years.
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So now I'm only getting 100 gigs for $49.99 a month. That's messed up
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So now I'm only getting 100 gigs for $49.99 a month. That's messed up
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Haha you make a valid point but have you never went over 100 gigs in a month?
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Haha you make a valid point but have you never went over 100 gigs in a month?
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A lot of people with a regular ISP don't even hit 100GB of usage in a month.
Using Verizon as your ISP for all of your devices at home and abroad isn't what tethering is intended for (even if it's technically allowed), but Verizon is looking the other way. However, piling on top of that the fact that you're spiking way into the top couple percent of data users on the network, and Verizon's stance seems pretty justified.
Bottom line: If you're going to use Verizon as your sole ISP, don't also compound it by being at the top end of data consumers.
whats the definition of unlimited? They should have never of offered Unlimited if they couldn't see the potential for high usage as their customers did... But nope they don't care and will continue to chip away at us loyal customers. I hate Verizon but I'm stuck with them because At&t got rid of their unlimited plans as well. I'm just waiting for them to get away with the same tiered **** at home. Comcast is piloting a program to charge by tier for your home internet congrats we let them get away with it on our mobile and now they are pushing for the home internet too.
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Also its 100GB now... but soon it will be 50GB than 25GB until they weed us all out of unlimited data because "we are congesting their network" Won't we still be congesting their network on the tiered 100GB plan? its all about money and if you don't see that you are part of the problem because you are complacent and think will I don't use 100GB so it doesn't matter to me.
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whats the definition of unlimited? They should have never of offered Unlimited if they couldn't see the potential for high usage as their customers did... But nope they don't care and will continue to chip away at us loyal customers. I hate Verizon but I'm stuck with them because At&t got rid of their unlimited plans as well. I'm just waiting for them to get away with the same tiered **** at home. Comcast is piloting a program to charge by tier for your home internet congrats we let them get away with it on our mobile and now they are pushing for the home internet too.
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Also its 100GB now... but soon it will be 50GB than 25GB until they weed us all out of unlimited data because "we are congesting their network" Won't we still be congesting their network on the tiered 100GB plan? its all about money and if you don't see that you are part of the problem because you are complacent and think will I don't use 100GB so it doesn't matter to me.
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I think Verizon was generous to grandfather the unlimited plan for as long as they did... and I don't usually have anything nice to say about Verizon.
Thank you for pointing this out! This SERIOUSLY sucks! I travel a lot and REALLY depend on the tether for both business and pleasure. Its really my only option. The true unlimited was nice because I NEVER had to worry about watching what my usage was. Was just looking back to my May-16 bill and they have me at 156gb, interestingly since then its been 92-98Gb. I might be able to work with 100gb cap buy anything lass then that and Ill be gone in a heartbeat from Verizon. The GF has Straight talk and that works just as good for half the price, just pray you never have to call their customer service!
Like the song on Avenue Q goes, the internet is for porn. If your needs are 24/7 that limit to unlimited could throttle your lifestyle!
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Now i get this Ad in MyVerizon that says popdata unlimited streaming for $2 for 30 minutes or $3 for a hour.
I never had unlimited with Verizon but this sounds like instead of buying public wifi somewhere, probably cheaper
crap. I just checked and I am at 80GB with 14 days left. I better slow down
Well this is terrible news, I had no idea. We have 3 line still grandfathered. My mother is the biggest user, since she doesn't have home internet. This could end up causing us to finally change service....Nothing spectacular to switch to, I guess Sprint?
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Just get your lines under contract and you are good. Sell the phone.
I just sold a Pixel for $680 on Swappa, and locked my $29.99 UDP in for another 2 years.
@Telemachus how do you renew your contact without losing the unlimited data? I remember when I got my note 4 originally there was the best buy method, but how do you do it now?
Thanks in advance
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@Telemachus how do you renew your contact without losing the unlimited data? I remember when I got my note 4 originally there was the best buy method, but how do you do it now?
Thanks in advance
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that method no longer works, but using best buy still works. i did this for my wife's line.
I upgraded my wifes line but the phone I got never once was used on my wifes line. My dad had the same exact phone I upgraded, so they swapped phones and still have unlimited data on 2 year deal. And the phone my dad is using can NEVER be used on my wifes line or she will lose it.
Even easier... sell the phone and never worry about it.
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As of August 31, 2016, VZW customers grandfathered into the unlimited data plan will no longer be able to go over 100 gigabytes monthly. Your line will be disconnected and VZW will give you 50 days for you to switch to a tiered plan. Hope the FCC can do something about this. What's the point of having unlimited data if we can't go over 100gb? There has to be a contractual limitation with what Verizon has planned for us unlimited users... I don't have internet service so I just use my hotspot. If this goes into effect, I'll be switching to AT&T after being loyal to Verizon for 11 years.
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ewww ATT, At least go GoogleFi. Even with limited phones you will get monthly security updates.
But this is also bull ****. Some people live out in rural areas, some of my friends for instance in the middle of Kansas. Where satelite is $300+ for 1.2mbps down. They just use their 3g Hotspots.
This had to be a troll, my account has used 400-500gb and no email, phone call or warning of any kind and still unlimited.
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Thanks for the tip. I average about 90GB a month on my phone, last time I hit over 100gb was back in July. I travel a lot (I work in SAP) and hook up to VPN for work so I use 4 GB a day just transferring files back and forth. I find hotel free wifi sucks. I use Slingbox as well and that sucks up data as well.
Droid life states "a source told us that Verizon has announced internally that an unlimited data user who uses an “extraordinary” amount of data is someone who uses 200GB of data per month."
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/06/verizon-upgrade-fee-increase-contracts-unlimited-data/
Well according to tech and corporate if you pay for tethering and you accepted the extra charge you are OK if you don't pay for tethering, in other words if you are not paying between $70 and $80 a month, you can expect to receive contact from them. Per line every month that is.
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Poor att users, I'm so glad I switched to t-mo.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/197755/atandt_pulls_the_plug_on_its_unlimited_data_plans.html
The New AT&T Mobile Data Plans
•· DataPlus is the cheapest plan available, which provides you with 200MB of data for $15 per month, a much better value plan for light data users who pay $30 for the unlimited plan right now. AT&T says that on average, 65 per cent of its customers use less than 200MB per month. If you exceed 200MB in a month, you can get another 200MB for an additional $15.
•· DataPro is the new highbrow mobile data plan from AT&T, which includes 2GB of data for $25 per month, and will charge each additional GB used over this limit at $10. This new plan is designed to replace the outgoing Unlimited plan, as AT&T claims 98 percent of its smartphone customers use on average less than 2GB of data per month.
•· The Tethering plan for iPhones will work only along the $20 per month DataPro plan, and costs an additional $20 monthly. Unfortunately, this extra $20 won't give you any extra GB of data usage, as the 2GB included in the DataPro plan will be shared between your phone and the tethered device. Tethering for iPhones is expected to be available when Apple releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
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So this is only for new customers right? I'm assuming the customers already on unlimited will keep it correct?
sucks for them. $45 a month for 2GB including tethering optionis just ridiculous.
im sure AT&T will force people to switch to this plan eventually like they did the smartphone plans.
FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
agreed I feel sorry for you guys, we get screwed with 3 year contracts, but im ok with that since I pay $30 for 6gb and that includes tethering. To pay an extra $20 and not get an increase in your bandwidth limit sucks.
Ouch.
Maybe my girlfriend's iPhone will have a tragic accident so we can get out of Dodge...
*sad face*
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FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
i don't think the new ETF has taken into effect; i called yesterday and asked how much it would be to get out of my family plan, and the rep gave me numbers based on $175 and not $325; thinking about moving to Sprint (23% discount from employer plus EVO)
also, i don't think this is grounds for getting out of paying ETF since, as of now, customers still have the option to keep current data plans and if they switch, it doesn't renew contract
while this is a bad deal for those who uses data a lot, this is somewhat of a benefit for my dad's iphone (i just checked and since he got the phone, he only uses about 100mb/month) so he can save $15/month
i imagine the unlimited will be grandfathered just like the old 10cent/kb plan i used to have since like 2000
glad ive got the unlimited while it was still available, according to this tiered pricing my bill last month just for data would have been over 50 bucks.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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Mmmm, considering what ATT is doing here, I'd say Tmo is great. In addition to the fact that you're stuck using Edge, which adds even more value to Tmo.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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you should just call ATT and ask how much it would be if you terminate your contract; you can have an answer directly from them
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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I doubt it because [according to Engadget] current unlimited data subscribers are welcome to keep their $30/mo plan for as long as they'd like, so you're not being forced to change your plan.
When I first read about the change I thought it sounded pretty bad, but I just checked my data usage and I only use just over 1gb a month despite very very heavy web browsing on my phones. If I tethered often or streamed video, I might not like this plan, but I cannot fathom how much web browsing I'd have to do to go over 2gb a month.
If you guys use the wifi tethering feature, they probably won't be able to detect that you are tethering, right?
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
yeah this stinks in a way. but all of us are grandfathered in. this is only for new customers. until you sign a new contract you can keep using the current pricing. but after that...
i've been out of contracct for 4 years now and only use unlocked phones, so i guess i could theoretically stay grandfathered indefinitely.
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What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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They can't unless they built it into the phone. So if you can get froyo on your att nexus you can tether without paying the fee.
All other 2.2 phones will be modified by their respective carriers to "check in" before enabling the built in tether option.
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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This is true. I have used my WinMo phones to tether on at&t for quite some time, beginning with HTC Faraday. Back then I called because I was stupid having problems getting the faraday to tether to my personal computer (The one I tested it on was fine) and the guy was like, you have to buy the tether package for $60/month to get the right cable. I was like no I don't, I did it earlier on another PC. He stammered and was like, well, if you try to access data heavy sites like youtube, it probably won't work. I was like okay w/e...hung up, played around, got it to work, and streamed an episode of Family Guy with no problems just to prove him wrong (once I let it DL. stupid EDGE). I've yet to see an extra charge for my data. (even when I was using the $10 MEdia Net package with a smartphone, which I was with the Faraday)
i going to ride out my grandfathered tmobile plan for as long as i can... $5/month for unlimited 3G data and tether/hotspot
I know this isn't exactly phone specific, but I have been reading a bit about impending data caps for Verizon's network. I have been enjoying my Wifi-Tether a lot lately without worrying about paying an absolute ridiculous amount for it. I have read in the past that a change in service allows you the opportunity to get out of your contract. Does anyone know if this is true or will apply if data caps are implemented?
Engadget Article
engadget.com/2010/07/20/verizon-switching-to-atandt-style-limited-data-plans-later-this-mo/
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grimez said:
I know this isn't exactly phone specific, but I have been reading a bit about impending data caps for Verizon's network. I have been enjoying my Wifi-Tether a lot lately without worrying about paying an absolute ridiculous amount for it. I have read in the past that a change in service allows you the opportunity to get out of your contract. Does anyone know if this is true or will apply if data caps are implemented?
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If the data caps/tiers happen, this is what will happen.
1) Current users who have the unlimited plan will keep it. You might lose it if you change phones, but if you don't change your plan, then you can probably keep unlimited, but I think if you make any changes to your plan, like number of minutes, texts, etc, you will lose the unlimited data.
2) New customers will have to get tiered plans.
If they forced current unlimited plan holders to change to tier plans, you would be able to get out of your contract ETF free. So to prevent this they will not do this if you have unlimited now. Many people would go to other networks besides ATT and Verizon where they can get unlimited data or cheaper rates.
Sure but you would most likely be grandfathered in, which means that it wouldn't matter. It also means you wouldn't be able to cancel without an etf.
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1) Current users who have the unlimited plan will keep it. You might lose it if you change phones, but if you don't change your plan, then you can probably keep unlimited, but I think if you make any changes to your plan, like number of minutes, texts, etc, you will lose the unlimited data.
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I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
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I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
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I don't think you should be worried. This tiered data plan isn't even confirmed by verizon yet. Nobody really has solid information on what could happen.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but because you signed a contract previous to when this happened..you will have available all options that you signed at the time-including minutes, txt, etc. The changed plan does not go into effect until you resign your contract.
This kind of thing happened when they forced everyone to choose either a 9.99 internet plan for dumbphones and 29.99 internet for smartphones regardless of they wanted internet or not. Those who had current contracts at the time were not affected. I guess I will just buy phones at off contract prices when my time is up so I can avoid signing a capped contract.
My guess is, after your current contract expires you will be forced into a tiered data plan, even if you are paying month to month with no changes.
When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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My guess is, after your current contract expires you will be forced into a tiered data plan, even if you are paying month to month with no changes.
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Problem is that Verizon's previous actions in cases such as this contradict that assumption. It is far more probable that the tiered data will only come into play when a new contract is signed- such as what transpired with 3G "multimedia" phones.
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When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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That's interesting because all the smartphones now require unlimited data plan. Maybe it was assumed for your contract? That would have been odd for you to get no data plan lol
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I have a family plan right now with 1400 minutes. On my next billing cycle I lowered the plan to 700 minutes (effective August 3rd). So what your saying is if they implement the new data plans before my next billing cycle I will lose unlimited data? Can anyone confirm this?
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No because you already agreed to the contract before hand. When you changed your plan minutes, you agreed to everything that was within that agreement at that time. They cannot change it now.
I don't think minor changes within your plan (even phone upgrades) will constitute losing your unlimited given we are grandfathered in...
For example...my mom had a $14.99/450-minute plan probably...12 years or so ago...she didn't lose it until about 2007 when she upgraded to a family share plan to add my dad and sister. During that time she had upgraded her phone a few times and added a text package without losing her base minute package.
I think we'll be ok....but I have my fingers crossed :-\
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Damnnnnnn. I was twelve then...i thought there was only beepers then...haha
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Damnnnnnn. I was twelve then...i thought there was only beepers then...haha
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Haha I remember it being some POS AudioVox with tiny little useless calculator-like screen and big antenna
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I don't think minor changes within your plan (even phone upgrades) will constitute losing your unlimited given we are grandfathered in...
For example...my mom had a $14.99/450-minute plan probably...12 years or so ago...she didn't lose it until about 2007 when she upgraded to a family share plan to add my dad and sister. During that time she had upgraded her phone a few times and added a text package without losing her base minute package.
I think we'll be ok....but I have my fingers crossed :-\
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The only reason you would lose the unlimited plan is if you removed the phone from that line and activated it on another, it's a grandfathered feature that runs independent of the calling plan. Meaning if you change the base rate you can continue on unlimited data. And yes, I work for Verizon
Even the current "unlimited" is truly not unlimited. I do believe there is a 5gb cap but you have to cross it a couple of months in a row before you hear about it.
All carriers are going to tiered models and for the average user it will save them money. I forget which carrier released the information but the average smartphone users only uses like 200mb a month. So for these users their rates may go down if they picked up a 200mb or 500mb plan. The power users will stick with the same thing they have but the cap will be official now.
So in short from what I have read really not much of a change from the current unless you are looking for a cheaper plan because of your usage.
this should clear up some stuff for now.. it looks like we are good..atleast till LTE comes out!
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/verizon-wireless-no-big-rush-to-tiered-data-plans-for-now/37147
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Even the current "unlimited" is truly not unlimited. I do believe there is a 5gb cap but you have to cross it a couple of months in a row before you hear about it.
All carriers are going to tiered models and for the average user it will save them money. I forget which carrier released the information but the average smartphone users only uses like 200mb a month. So for these users their rates may go down if they picked up a 200mb or 500mb plan. The power users will stick with the same thing they have but the cap will be official now.
So in short from what I have read really not much of a change from the current unless you are looking for a cheaper plan because of your usage.
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It is a 5gb cap, but they wont pursue bothering you unless they can tell you are tethering. If you legitly use that much on your phone, you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing changing right now is the hotspot and mbb connect plans to the 2 gbfor 20.00 the smartphone plans Stays unlimited . Nothing has been mentioned on going tiered smartphone a la iPhone .
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When I switched my family from Sprint to Verizon, no internet fee was required for any of the phones (in fact, I had to ASK for unlimited data or else my Incredible wouldn't have had it). I don't know if I lucked out or not, but this was done by a manager and I certain hope said manager continues to work there and save me money =p.
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trust me it would have been on your bill and it wouldn't have been the cheap version... I tried to get my omnia with no data because I could just block internet connection on my motorola Q and not have any charges but they do no allow this anymore with the new smartphones
but eventhough I figured out a way to order it online without having to agree to a data plan the bill showed up with a 52/mo charge for corporate unlimited data... I called them and they said oh our mistake we should have charged you for the 30/mo... they just tried to pull a fast 12 bucks off of me but I actually read my bill
Basically, all NEW smartphone activations and anyone upgrading to a smartphone will be netting the extra $10/mo charge for a true unlimited amount of data consumption. If you're currently on a regular smartphone and not a 4G one, you'll be getting this new $10 fee for true unlimited data on your next upgrade if you choose to go with any BB, WM, Android, Palm/WebOS, and Instinct phone.
All-in-all, this isn't surprising and completely justified. Even WITH the $10 extra, your plan will still be cheaper than other carriers AND you'll have uncapped data. Provided you don't get a very good discount on another carrier but you'd still wind up with some kind of data cap. Now naysayers can't complain about paying for 4G when they don't have it. It is what Sprint has always been saying it is - a fee for truly unlimited data not a 4G tax.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=21
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Basically, all NEW smartphone activations and anyone upgrading to a smartphone will be netting the extra $10/mo charge for a true unlimited amount of data consumption. If you're currently on a regular smartphone and not a 4G one, you'll be getting this new $10 fee for true unlimited data on your next upgrade if you choose to go with any BB, WM, Android, Palm/WebOS, and Instinct phone.
All-in-all, this isn't surprising and completely justified. Even WITH the $10 extra, your plan will still be cheaper than other carriers AND you'll have uncapped data. Provided you don't get a very good discount on another carrier but you'd still wind up with some kind of data cap. Now naysayers can't complain about paying for 4G when they don't have it. It is what Sprint has always been saying it is - a fee for truly unlimited data not a 4G tax.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=21
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I really think Clear's lawsuit against Sprint for the $10 fee is what forced Sprints hand here. I can't say I think its a terrible decision as was previously stated, their prices are still cheaper then other carriers.
Now I just have to work stuff out to get my wife to switch to my old Hero before 1/30 so we don't get charged $10/month more.
Pretty much telling me that they expect all their future smartphones to be 4G.
Oh, and you say it's not a 4G free, you're sorta right. Sadly it's the exact same "Clearwire" fee that Sprint pays them for every handset sold with 4G capability. Sprint is just passing that fee along to the customer.
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Basically, all NEW smartphone activations and anyone upgrading to a smartphone will be netting the extra $10/mo charge for a true unlimited amount of data consumption. If you're currently on a regular smartphone and not a 4G one, you'll be getting this new $10 fee for true unlimited data on your next upgrade if you choose to go with any BB, WM, Android, Palm/WebOS, and Instinct phone.
All-in-all, this isn't surprising and completely justified. Even WITH the $10 extra, your plan will still be cheaper than other carriers AND you'll have uncapped data. Provided you don't get a very good discount on another carrier but you'd still wind up with some kind of data cap. Now naysayers can't complain about paying for 4G when they don't have it. It is what Sprint has always been saying it is - a fee for truly unlimited data not a 4G tax.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=21
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*sigh* I'm not going to get into this again, I'm just going to make one point: My plan is called Everything Data and it has
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
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So then what is the other $10 for? If I already pay for unlimited data why am I paying another fee for the same thing. Does anyone watch the office? Remember the episodes where Michael starts his own paper company and when things start to go south he starts calling customers asking them to pay more for services already delivered? Ya, they don't react so well. This is exactly the same. I signed up for a service and agreed to certain charges. I agreed to the 4G charge because I was bold-faced lied to by my sprint rep. Its my fault for believing him and I plan on owning up to that when come august my wife's contract is up and I cancel mine with Sprint.
Sure 159.99$ for two lines with 1500minutes and "Premium data" sounds reasonable but my wife and I combined never use more than 300 minutes combined across all types of calls (excluding nights and weekends). But hey, lets include those. That is when we call our relatives who are mostly on Tmobile. On Tmobile I can get a plan with 750 minutes for 139.99$ and real unlimited data as well as 4G in my area. So why am I paying Sprint so much for so little only to have more charges heaped on me? Because I was a sucker.
Finally, to return to my first analogy: Sprint is the Michael Scott paper company. They hitched their proverbial wagon to Clear who, now now facing a trademark lawsuit from Sony Ericcson, is facing even more fiscal crisis and are having to beg their customers for more money. Its pathetic and completely immoral. Just as I willingly accept that I made a bad decision signing a contract with Sprint they need to suck it up and admit they f***ed up when signing with Clear rather than taking it out on their customers.
I'm done. I will not post in this thread again.
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*sigh* I'm not going to get into this again, I'm just going to make one point: My plan is called Everything Data and it has
Sure 159.99$ for two lines with 1500minutes and "Premium data" sounds reasonable but my wife and I combined never use more than 300 minutes combined across all types of calls (excluding nights and weekends). But hey, lets include those. That is when we call our relatives who are mostly on Tmobile. On Tmobile I can get a plan with 750 minutes for 139.99$ and real unlimited data as well as 4G in my area. So why am I paying Sprint so much for so little only to have more charges heaped on me? Because I was a sucker.
I'm done. I will not post in this thread again.
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You can get the $109.99 plan for Employee Preferred which has 1500 landline minutes, so that you're paying $129 for 2 -4g devices. If you really are that unhappy - just pay the $70-80 ETF and move on.
Enjoy T-Mobile.
BS plain and simple,wtf are they thinking...
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anyone read the press release? they keep mentioning things like "unlimited text while on sprints network" and the other carriers it says "unlimited" ... they changing their roaming policy?
i know it's been something like more then 50% usage while roaming they can close your account or at least restrict it.
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If you read the (not-so) fine print, normal "unlimited" data is capped at 5GB/mo. It has been like that for forever and a day. Every other carrier was like that. The extra $10 REMOVES that cap and allows you to go over that 5GB/mo without incurring extra charges. You aren't going to get real unlimited data from T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T as they all have caps and do not offer uncapped data for a meager $10 extra. Your analogy fails because they are adding to an existing service and giving you more for your money. They're removing the cap and allowing you to consume as much data as you can not charging you extra for what you're already getting.
If you were lied to by your Sprint rep, that's your fault. It is your duty as a responsible consumer to at least look at the terms and conditions of the contracts that you sign into as well as do research. If you don't then you cannot claim ignorance as a justifiable excuse for being shafted.
"Unlimited" in the mobile world has always meant capped, whether you saw that cap or not. The premium data charge removes the cap. That's not hard to understand and you can whine and complain all you like but you'll still be wrong.
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anyone read the press release? they keep mentioning things like "unlimited text while on sprints network" and the other carriers it says "unlimited" ... they changing their roaming policy?
i know it's been something like more then 50% usage while roaming they can close your account or at least restrict it.
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That's because if you're roaming they can't guarantee delivery of your messages but on theirs they can. They can't speak for other carriers.
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*sigh* I'm not going to get into this again, I'm just going to make one point: My plan is called Everything Data and it has
So then what is the other $10 for? If I already pay for unlimited data why am I paying another fee for the same thing. Does anyone watch the office? Remember the episodes where Michael starts his own paper company and when things start to go south he starts calling customers asking them to pay more for services already delivered? Ya, they don't react so well. This is exactly the same. I signed up for a service and agreed to certain charges. I agreed to the 4G charge because I was bold-faced lied to by my sprint rep. Its my fault for believing him and I plan on owning up to that when come august my wife's contract is up and I cancel mine with Sprint.
Sure 159.99$ for two lines with 1500minutes and "Premium data" sounds reasonable but my wife and I combined never use more than 300 minutes combined across all types of calls (excluding nights and weekends). But hey, lets include those. That is when we call our relatives who are mostly on Tmobile. On Tmobile I can get a plan with 750 minutes for 139.99$ and real unlimited data as well as 4G in my area. So why am I paying Sprint so much for so little only to have more charges heaped on me? Because I was a sucker.
Finally, to return to my first analogy: Sprint is the Michael Scott paper company. They hitched their proverbial wagon to Clear who, now now facing a trademark lawsuit from Sony Ericcson, is facing even more fiscal crisis and are having to beg their customers for more money. Its pathetic and completely immoral. Just as I willingly accept that I made a bad decision signing a contract with Sprint they need to suck it up and admit they f***ed up when signing with Clear rather than taking it out on their customers.
I'm done. I will not post in this thread again.
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I agree 100%, why should i have to pay $10/line more for unlimited data when my plan already states unlimited data. The only consolation is that it won't affect only 4g phones anymore.
Your unlimited data isn't unlimited and never has been. There's always been a 5GB cap. Learn to read.
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Your unlimited data isn't unlimited and never has been. There's always been a 5GB cap. Learn to read.
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Everything you need for the whole family - unlimited text, surf, email, listen, watch, find and, of course, talk - on one simple plan.
This plan includes
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
How is that not unlimited data? Nowhere on my contract did it ever say limited to 5gb. Thanks, but I'm already set with reading.
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Everything you need for the whole family - unlimited text, surf, email, listen, watch, find and, of course, talk - on one simple plan.
This plan includes
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
How is that not unlimited data? Nowhere on my contract did it ever say limited to 5gb. Thanks, but I'm already set with reading.
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Its in the fine print of the sprint rate plan guide...go pick one up and read it. While you're at it go pick up rate plan guides from every other national carrier and you'll find the same thing. You are wrong. If you're not happy then go get Metro PCS, or T-Maybe....
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I can't believe I'm letting myself get sucked in by another one of these threads.
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I agreed to the 4G charge because I was bold-faced lied to by my sprint rep. Its my fault for believing him and I plan on owning up to that when come august my wife's contract is up and I cancel mine with Sprint.
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If you were lied to by your Sprint rep, that's your fault. It is your duty as a responsible consumer to at least look at the terms and conditions of the contracts that you sign into as well as do research. If you don't then you cannot claim ignorance as a justifiable excuse for being shafted.
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First of all, I took responsibility for taking my Sprint Reps word. I actually did my research though. There is 4g Coverage from Seattle to Tacoma north of me and Portland South of me. I live in the capitol of Washington. Why wouldn't 4G come here? I looked all over for a 'roadmap' of releases of 4G but I could never find one so when a Sprint Rep told me that he knew for a fact that 4G coverage would be in my area within a 2 months, I bought it.
I read every contract I sign and I regularly question the other parties on the terms, I know that there is a "cap" on the data. I also know that the 4G fee gets you unlimited 4G (or it did until this comes into effect). There is nothing justified here, its just corporate games to make up for money they lost.
If you read the (not-so) fine print, normal "unlimited" data is capped at 5GB/mo. It has been like that for forever and a day. Every other carrier was like that. The extra $10 REMOVES that cap and allows you to go over that 5GB/mo without incurring extra charges. You aren't going to get real unlimited data from T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T as they all have caps and do not offer uncapped data for a meager $10 extra. Your analogy fails because they are adding to an existing service and giving you more for your money. They're removing the cap and allowing you to consume as much data as you can not charging you extra for what you're already getting.
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Actually, you're wrong. It depends on how you get your contract. I know a lot of people with completely unlimited data on AT&T.
If your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change without notice; please check T-Mobile’s T&Cs on www.T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle.
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The above is quoted directly from tmobile's terms and conditions. May reduce data speed. That means I can continue to use data over 5gb but they might decide to throttle it a bit. That's better in my opinion given that I rarely use even close to that much even with two android smartphones on my plan than having to pay twice for "unlimited data" on Sprint.
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Everything you need for the whole family - unlimited text, surf, email, listen, watch, find and, of course, talk - on one simple plan.
This plan includes
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
How is that not unlimited data? Nowhere on my contract did it ever say limited to 5gb. Thanks, but I'm already set with reading.
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Here's some new and old articles mentioning the data cap on "unlimited" plans:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/05/19/sprint-falls-in-line-caps-unlimited-data-at-5gb/
http://gizmodo.com/393647/the-fineish-print-on-sprints-5gb-data-cap
http://blog.connectedplanetonline.c...r-behavior-on-3g-so-sprint-shuns-them-for-4g/
Here's a Google search so you can prove yourself wrong:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sprint+5gb+data+cap
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Actually, you're wrong. It depends on how you get your contract. I know a lot of people with completely unlimited data on AT&T.
The above is quoted directly from tmobile's terms and conditions. May reduce data speed. That means I can continue to use data over 5gb but they might decide to throttle it a bit. That's better in my opinion given that I rarely use even close to that much even with two android smartphones on my plan than having to pay twice for "unlimited data" on Sprint.
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Those on AT&T were grand-fathered in and will lose their unlimited plans eventually. You cannot currently get that plan anymore.
T-Mobile's data throttling is more than "a bit" from the experience of my friends. The throttling makes it as fast as 2G/EDGE.
The unlimited 4G is true and it also applies to 3G for those with 4G devices not capable or just not using 4G.
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Those on AT&T were grand-fathered in and will lose their unlimited plans eventually. You cannot currently get that plan anymore.
T-Mobile's data throttling is more than "a bit" from the experience of my friends. The throttling makes it as fast as 2G/EDGE.
The unlimited 4G is true and it also applies to 3G for those with 4G devices not capable or just not using 4G.
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I know very well they were grandfathered in and I know that no one can get that plan (its the reason those people are not leaving AT&T despite hating their service). As I stated, I have never gone over my data cap on sprint so I have no fear of my speeds being throttled after that limit.
Finally, the unlimited 4g is not currently applied to 3G and if they do plan to apply it to all data as this would imply:
Instead of limits and overage charges on data plans for wireless phones as competitors have done, Sprint is applying its $10 Premium Data add-on charge to all smartphone activations beginning Jan. 30, 2011.
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(I say would imply because they do not directly state that they are lifting the cap that currently exists just that it is doing differently than competitors which by your own links is not true) then will they refund any overages incurred by people like me who have been paying said fee for months? Personally, I've never gone over but if this is the case the 'just' thing to do would be to refund those charges.
You're not entitled to a refund.
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That's because if you're roaming they can't guarantee delivery of your messages but on theirs they can. They can't speak for other carriers.
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oooh ok. gotchya'
thanks
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Finally, the unlimited 4g is not currently applied to 3G and if they do plan to apply it to all data as this would imply then will they refund any overages incurred by people like me who have been paying said fee for months? Personally, I've never gone over but if this is the case the 'just' thing to do would be to refund those charges.
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You're not entitled to a refund.
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Do you even read before posting? I clearly said I've never gone over and therefore you are absolutely I am in no way entitled to a refund. However, given how they are changing the scope of the charges that they've already been applying to accounts for months it would be the just and moral thing to do to refund any overages customers who have been paying the fee for unlimited data but have been charged overages for 3G data may have incurred.
After 7+ years as a loyal Verizon customer, and 2+ years as a fanatical Incredible user, I'm leaning strongly towards leaving it all behind. The straw was the recent change to mandatory Shared Data plans. I just can't justify spending $30+ more per month when I upgrade for essentially the same service I am getting now. I understand why Verizon needed to make a change...but it's just too much for me.
I've been eyeing the GNex for a while, and with the continued disappointing turnout of HTC on Verizon (Inc 4G...really? Small screen, no ImageSense), I am planning to get the $350 unlocked, GNex direct from Google and then sign up with a month-to-month plan with a GSM provider.
Sad to see it all go, but also excited with the new possibilities.
If anyone else is mulling this conundrum, I found this thread to be very helpful...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
I'm not happy with that either but to my understanding the shared data is an option not a requirement. I believe the tiered plan will still be an option.
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I'm not happy with that either but to my understanding the shared data is an option not a requirement. I believe the tiered plan will still be an option.
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Im up for my upgrade so i went on the vzw site logged in, went to upgrade device, picked a phone and went to the plan portion and there is only the one, 40 per phone 50 for 1gb shared data. No option to keep my current plan unless i buy the phone for retail with no contract. I am just going to save up my cash and when the inc dies, buy a phone retail or off amazon or ebay or something. That way i keep my 60 dollar a month bill with the unlimited data plan forever. I dont do a lot of talking or texting so the whole unlimited deal dosent really seem like a deal to me. And 50 for 1gb, thats just outrageous.
I know losing unlimited sucks, but I voluntarily gave it up. The shared plan gives me unlimited talk time, and 4gb a month between my girlfriend and I. We only averaged around 1.5-1.75gb per month each anyways and now that I figured out my employers network password I'm on their wifi at work lol. Saving $40 a month and gaining unlimited talk time was well worth it for me.
That said, I'm still considering leaving Verizon. Their service has been exceptionally poor in my area lately. My friend at work is on sprint and using speedtest his 3g speeds are consistently much greater than mine. But I don't know if I want to keep my Inc until January 2013.
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Well I'll be with big red until they actually take away my unlimited, and willing to buy phones retail value if need be. I can't give up my free wifi via phone through internal modem. I use my phone (gnex) as a hotspot for everything and would be lost without it....lol. Monthly is 72.67 every month. If that changes I change. Tc
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I know them feels bro.
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I plan on doing the same thing when the new iPhone (yes, sorry) comes out in Sept/Oct. I've been a Verizon Wireless customer since I was 16, and would end up paying about $20 more a month on their new plan as well. Verizon has good coverage where I am, so I'll either buy it unsubsidized and keep my unlimited data, or switch to a GSM month to month provider.
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I plan on doing the same thing when the new iPhone (yes, sorry) comes out in Sept/Oct. I've been a Verizon Wireless customer since I was 16, and would end up paying about $20 more a month on their new plan as well. Verizon has good coverage where I am, so I'll either buy it unsubsidized and keep my unlimited data, or switch to a GSM month to month provider.
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blasphemy i tell you, BLASPHEMY
The Shared Data plans work great if you have someone to share it with. Engadget, Android Central, et al have done the analysis and these are good deals for groups of 3 or 4 people who use less than 4GB together...for individuals like me it's a really bad deal. I would basically pay $30-40 more for a capped data plan.
I've thought about getting a retail price phone...you can get an Inc 2 on ebay now for $250-350. But then I wonder, why settle for an old phone, when, for the same price, I can get a brand new, unlocked GNex and be free of all this. Coverage is a concern. Support is a concern. Verizon has been fantastic for me on both. But I live in DC and friends with AT&T and T-Mobile are happy with their coverage.
Still haven't decided...but I appreciate everyone's thoughts and feedback. The Incredible dev community has been just that....another reason I'm looking at the GNex...gotta follow the devs.
Yeah dude I'm considering a nexus for my daily driver. I'm already on tmobile and pay $15-30 a month. They have a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 voice minutes, unlimited texts, and unlimited data (first 4 or 5gbs at hpsa+ speeds). Beats any Verizon plan for a single user. Only thing is you have to have T-Mobile coverage in your area. I get better coverage on T-Mobile than Verizon in some places where I live
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Big Red's BS is the reason I left and went PP years ago.
It has worked out very well.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/
I was not lucky enough to upgrade before 6/28 and now im stuck on this angry little boat. I swear to god I'll be the last mofo on 3g. I'm the only one on my plan. Data tiers are complete bull****. A complete rip off the consumer.
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My wife just left sprint because of crappy service and support, and went to straight talk. $43 a month with tax, unlimited talk text and data, and here service is excelent. It even comes in at the beach where vzw has no service. But straight talks best android phone is still junk. If i could get my inc or another newer better android phone flashed to straight talk, i would leave big red in a heartbeat.
Woh im only use Rp 45.000 or 5$ per month for my Dinc for unlimited data plan. it's cheap and enough for social media and download apps..
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My wife just left sprint because of crappy service and support, and went to straight talk. $43 a month with tax, unlimited talk text and data, and here service is excelent. It even comes in at the beach where vzw has no service. But straight talks best android phone is still junk. If i could get my inc or another newer better android phone flashed to straight talk, i would leave big red in a heartbeat.
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I tried straight talk and was not happy you could not bring your own device and that the data was throttled back,
With page plus its the same network , you can bring your own device and the data is throttled back.
I have had good coverage when I travel.
Just ran the numbers for all the lines on our plan and it is better for us to stay with what we have now. If we do upgrade we will go retail or upgrade and opt for the 2GB non-shared data at 29.99 It will keep our price the exact same and the lines that have unlimited can keep it. It also makes it 10 dollars cheaper for us to do 3 lines with 2GB data than shared 6GB data. I totally get the new plans and such, but it suck to only be one phone on the plan.
If we didn't live in the middle of nowhere we might change, but VZW offers the best service for us.
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Just ran the numbers for all the lines on our plan and it is better for us to stay with what we have now. If we do upgrade we will go retail or upgrade and opt for the 2GB non-shared data at 29.99 It will keep our price the exact same and the lines that have unlimited can keep it. It also makes it 10 dollars cheaper for us to do 3 lines with 2GB data than shared 6GB data. I totally get the new plans and such, but it suck to only be one phone on the plan.
If we didn't live in the middle of nowhere we might change, but VZW offers the best service for us.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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Have you tried calling VZW customer service? I went into my local store last week and asked the gal at the counter what I needed to do for my stbxw will be getting off my account and getting her own account. She said in my case that she made a note in the computer allowing her to take her phone/phone number off my account. But once she did that, then I needed to call customer service for them to change my family share plan to something else, because they no longer sell a unlimited data plan so customer service would have to make my account a single tiered account so I don't get cornered into a share everything plan and lose my unlimited.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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That is my understanding from the rep I spoke with on the phone on Thursday. I was told the 2GB plan would still be around for any line I would want to put it on. I think it would for sure be something you would need to call in about b/c I don't see it listed under online options.
i had the incredible, went through a bunch of phones, lost some money, but ended up on a nexus with unlimited data. now that i only have ~9 months left on contract, im thinking of going to tmobiles $70 a month unlimited everything. its more then i get now, for a lot less. if you guys are in the market for used phones, try swappa.com. really good site. ive used them several times. nexuses can be had for $360
My apologies as this isnt really device specific although I do use a Note 3 with ATT. I have had a family plan for at least 8 years now, and have always been on unlimited plan for my line (Im the acct holder). Yesterday I logged into my account to see that it was now a '10gb Family Shared Plan'. I call them up and they can't tell me why or how this changed but will be looking into it.
Ironically last month was the first time I surpassed the 5gb throttle limit. Its almost as though they are purposely downgrading my plan.
Anyways not too happy about this and hopefully its a relatively smooth transition back. Just annoyed this 'randomly' happened. Has anyone else experienced something like this lately?
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My apologies as this isnt really device specific although I do use a Note 3 with ATT. I have had a family plan for at least 8 years now, and have always been on unlimited plan for my line (Im the acct holder). Yesterday I logged into my account to see that it was now a '10gb Family Shared Plan'. I call them up and they can't tell me why or how this changed but will be looking into it.
Ironically last month was the first time I surpassed the 5gb throttle limit. Its almost as though they are purposely downgrading my plan.
Anyways not too happy about this and hopefully its a relatively smooth transition back. Just annoyed this 'randomly' happened. Has anyone else experienced something like this lately?
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Have you been tethering? I've heard of it happening when excessive tethering was used without a tethering plan. I was warned once. I dont risk it anymore. I love my family unlimited too much.
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Have you been tethering? I've heard of it happening when excessive tethering was used without a tethering plan. I was warned once. I dont risk it anymore. I love my family unlimited too much.
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No, never tether. I only used 5 gigs last month because I got a new car with bluetooth (yeh, welcome to the 21st century right! lol) and stream for 2 hours a day since i commute a lot. I probably used just over 5gigs though as I got the text notifying me of my usage just days before the end of the billing cycle.
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No, never tether. I only used 5 gigs last month because I got a new car with bluetooth (yeh, welcome to the 21st century right! lol) and stream for 2 hours a day since i commute a lot. I probably used just over 5gigs though as I got the text notifying me of my usage just days before the end of the billing cycle.
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That is unusual then. Hopefully it was a mistake. I've gone over 5gb a few times. My daughter did 12gb once. I mean it's unlimited. Right?
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That is unusual then. Hopefully it was a mistake. I've gone over 5gb a few times. My daughter did 12gb once. I mean it's unlimited. Right?
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Sprint was "unlimited" too though Look where that got me
Does the 10gb plan include tethering? I might switch if it does, I have unlimited but hardly ever go over 1gb...
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Does the 10gb plan include tethering? I might switch if it does, I have unlimited but hardly ever go over 1gb...
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It does and it's actually cheaper per month.
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Actually everyone on family share plan with 10 or more gig data automatically got switched over, I had mine changed to it and the lady told me everyone would be switched over automatically. I'm sure they will switch u back, but we're probably hoping people would be willing to sacrifice unlimited for cheaper overall.
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Here's a few things to note.
Unlimited is not called Unlimited anymore. It's called Unlimited access, but will be throttled at 3gb.
If you tether, you will be notified by text that you will be switched to a tethering plan the next month. (had this happen lol)
AT&T can switch you of unlimited anytime they like, read the fine print contact.
On a side note, I was on unlimted until they keep throttling me. Coming off that slow unlimited access made life better for me.
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I still don't understand why people on ATT are trying to cling on to their Unlimited data. The people on Verizon have good enough reasons to (Verizon doesn't throttle or get pissy if you consume 10s of gigs per month, for now anyway). But on ATT your Unlimited plans are basically pointless at this point. After 3-4GB, your data essentially becomes useless after the throttle. For all intents and purposes, you can't tether. And it's actually cheaper to get access to more high-speed data every month on the newer plans. They literally made switching over to limited data a much better deal (or made keeping Unlimited a worse one, depending on how you look at it).
Just switched mine, got 10gb, tethering included and actually cheaper.
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nawh..not so much
hoping my crocodile mouth don't get my humming bird @SS in trouble
Yeah I gave up my unlimited long time ago. 10GB shared data is more than enough.
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Keeping unlimited.
The catch is that if you go on the shared minutes planes, your phones are no longer subsidized... So if you upgrade your phones every two years, the cost ends up being the same, if not greater when paying monthly for the phones. This in my calculations is about a wash in terms of cost, however you do not get to keep your phones at the end. These are great plans if you byop however.
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The catch is that if you go on the shared minutes planes, your phones are no longer subsidized... So if you upgrade your phones every two years, the cost ends up being the same, if not greater when paying monthly for the phones. This in my calculations is about a wash in terms of cost, however you do not get to keep your phones at the end. These are great plans if you byop however.
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You keep your phone, just pay the remainder off. 9 out of 10 times phone has scratches, which means no giving it to therm. The thing is, you might pay the same amount in the long run (I won't because I'm saving $120 per month which equals $1440 in a year, at end of year I only owe $248 left on phone. Which leaves me with $1192 in savings.) Then I get another upgrade, which is every 12 months instead of 24. Plus no upgrade or activation fees. So tell me where this is a bad deal for me at all?
Oh and by the way its not shared minutes, in fact is unlimited talk and text.
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sandman7793 said:
You keep your phone, just pay the remainder off. 9 out of 10 times phone has scratches, which means no giving it to therm. The thing is, you might pay the same amount in the long run (I won't because I'm saving $120 per month which equals $1440 in a year, at end of year I only owe $248 left on phone. Which leaves me with $1192 in savings.) Then I get another upgrade, which is every 12 months instead of 24. Plus no upgrade or activation fees. So tell me where this is a bad deal for me at all?
Oh and by the way its not shared minutes, in fact is unlimited talk and text.
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It sounds like a better deal for you for sure. The way i'm set up to switch to next save me only $20/month before taxes. I have four lines so I get 2 upgrades a year. So I pay 240 more per year plus about 200 for each phone. This equals 640 a year with two phones. If the average phone on next is 30 a month, then there is the wash. My minutes are not unlimited, but on all lines mobile to mobile is unlimited and I rarely use more than 300. Plus they roll over so I have lots banked. Texting is also unlimited. Plus I can sell the phones at the end (I never do, though, and have 8 phones to sell or get rid of of you include the 2 phones each of my two children have to play on).
I guess how good of a deal next is depends on how good of a deal you had before. ...
They're absolute garbage. I had a 1GB family plan (you know, wifi everywhere and I never even pass that 1GB at all), so.i called them up to see why my bill was a little high then this girl was telling me that she has a better plan for me. 2GB for $5 less. I was like "hell yeah. Switch up now". Next bill was $15 over. LOL
Called them up again and downgraded back to my ole 1GB. I don't know why the lying. Do they really think people are that stupid? If you ever call them, first thing you wanna do is ask the employee about their ID number. Just say " I'd like your ID number". They can't say no. They'll get in trouble. So when an employee screws you over you just call them and ask for a manager and tell them about the employee that did it and give them the number to identify him/her. Other than that names don't work.
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I gave up my unlimited plan for the 10gig plan a month ago, I added my dad's phone to the data and we are saving $80 a month now over the old plan and no more throttle or tethering is gtg without root. I'm actually pleased.
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Att almost had me, I was about to let go of my unlimited data, I wasn't gonna save much since I wabted the 20 gb shareplan, but then I found out about the scam, I have 5 lines, sounded good to only pay 15 for each additional but how about when my mother in law wants to update for some 50 dollar renovate contract new smartphone, she never gets the most expensive, the point is that If I later want to upgrade for the best cheap offer new phone then it rises 25 for each line so instead of 228 that I pay I will end up paying 328, or if I get the next for every account, lets see at least 27 a month for 5 lines, wow arround 360, now how in hell thats gonna save me money.
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oh and I alone use arround 12gb a month.
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Because when you threaten to leave they knock it right to the $15, seen it happen a lot already.
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