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So, I have the Note II (Awesome device) But now the HTC One is out and on paper in specs its sort of common with the Note II but not as much.Lets go over with the specs shall we?
The note II features a 1.6 ghz Quadcore Exynos 4 CPU - The One has a Snap dragon 600 Quad core 1.7 Ghz processor. Now the 600 is quite new of a processor meaning not many phones have it (Only the Optimus G+ and now the One,as far as im aware) So in the processor im gonna leave it as is just because we still have yet to see the 600 in action.
Both of these devices feature 2 GB RAM - Draw.
The screen is quite different however, On the note II you got a 5.5 Inch Super amoled panel with a resolution of 1280x720 giving a dpi of 267- HTC One has a 4.7 Inch display with a Super LCD 3 panel with a resolution of 1920x1080 which results in a whopping resolution of 469ppi. Many say the 1080p screen is overkill but unless you experience it for real you will see a difference..i have to give this to the One.
In battery not much tests have been made for the One here but my bet the Note II will have a better battery. The Note II has a 3100 MAH battery which is just awesome. The One has a battery of 2300 MAH . Keep in mind that the Note II's battery is removable but the One is not!.This one goes for the Note II
The One comes in 2 models of 32 and 64 gigs of storage with no expandable SD Card. The note II comes in 16 gigs of internal storage and can support an SD card of up to 64 GB. Note II wins this one.
The Camera on the One is the "Ultra pixel" one which no one really is sure what it is or how its better so..im going to leave the camera because no one really can judge.
Software wise , Both the Note II and the One come with Android JELLY BEAN 4.1.2. (Both will be upgradable to 4.2.2)
One thing i wanted to note(no pun intended) is that the Note II has an S-Pen! Im not going to go in the features of it because they are alot..But let me tell you this,Its just awesome..you can take notes with it, Very productive. ( ONE ALSO has Beats audio and 2 front speakers , note 2 doesnt have that)
Ending this..Both of these phones are great..But for me I can upgrade and ditch the Note II to get the One (Got the money) But im going to stay with the Note II because its the phone i want , i dont want to go back to 4.7 inch screen. So thats just my take on it..Its your choice and your money Both of them are great..But ive had HTC in the past..i wont have one again.
I'm curious about the camera in One, they promised a good low light performance. The sceen also may be interesting, but until i see it in real life, I cannot talk about it. The battery, I guess, will be at most 3/4 of ours (a wild guess).
My final verdict: not worth upgrade (if this is really an upgrade?), I'm waiting for S4 and even 5S (these are the phones to set new trends )
Even though htc one has a better specification, better screen, and faster processor. The battery itself will keep me and some people sticking to note 2 for the time being. If you want gaming, the HTC sure will provide better gaming performance (12,000 in quadrant! ) but from my experience of owning HTC one x and one x+, both have terrible battery, especially compared to note 2.
Htc also have quite lame software in my opinion. But HTC Sense looks better, much better than TouchWiz. Note 2 in my book is still the best smartphone to date with s-pen, split screen and other various productivity tools. Great phone for working. The battery will last a full day with heavy usage.
if u prefer raw performance and good camera go for htc one but if u prefer more usablity with spen and storage stay with note 2 and wait for note 3 launch at end q3.
htc one is the king of android phone with optimus g pro but both phone doesnt support digitizer so it lack the usability and precision of note 2.
about battery life, nowadays u can buy an external charger or use in-car charger if u are moving around so battery is not an issue actually unless u go to a very rural place for a week with no charger around but any phone also cant last that long.
anyway its up to user individual.
update - S4 wil also be launching in march so about the king of android is still a puzzle.
htc one has the better built quality it seems with metal construction and injection moulding which is somehow, more solid than plastic (or polycarbonate) on N2
OK there is NO Doubt that the phone is a new top tier phone! But I don't know... HTC has great build quality, but their software is meh. Their updates are slow, because they have to test that REALLY heavy skin over Android, so they are never really on time with updates, and if they are, it's only for the first few months. I don't know, I think HTC has a GREAT design team, and engineers, but I don't really like their software development team because their mentality is build a great device and sell as many as possible and then push out the next one. Samsung, for the moment, is doing a great job. The ORIGINAL Note got updates, and so did the S2. That's just my opinion based on my experience. It could vary. haha. Oh, but battery life is FOR SURE going to be worse on the HTC unless they did something revolutionary with their software and hardware. mAh is mAh! There's no way around that.
I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
Let's be total honest here, One is WAY better than Note 2, in terms of performance, build quality and design. But I won't switch to it, why? Because I don't want to spend extra money for it as my Note 2 is just 4 months old and I still like OLED than LCD.
Agreed on the whole "I had an HTC before and will never have one again". Seriously, their phones always had an issue whether it was software related or hardware. But that's just my experience. I'm never going back. Regardless of how fast it is or how much better. I'm satisfied with the note performance and battery life and especially that it has official cm10.1 support. Awaiting key lime pie and future updates on this beast! :thumbup:
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I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
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this topic is about the all new "One" not the "One X"
One is newer device, of course it will be faster than Note 2.
Would I go for One? No!
Why?
No MMC slot, embedded battery, less battery capacity.
I was the ultimate HTC fanboi up until the original Note came along. It was then I realised Samsung were King when it came to innovation and superior software. I bought the S3 then the Note 2, the Galaxy Camera and the Note 10.1 tablet. I have become a Samsung fanboi without doubt!
However...
I am suddenly taking an interest in both the Sony Xperia Z and now the HTC One. Why? Well purely on a design basis. The Galaxy range is becoming a bit boring in the looks department. I understand that plastic is good for making my devices lightweight and durable but they don't ooze premium like the HTC ONE and the Sony Z (and dare I say the iphone 5 - yes that's quite an admission for an anti apple guy!)
My conclusion is for now I am waiting on what the Samsung Galaxy S4 brings to the table and more importantly the Galaxy Note 3, before I consider jumping ship again. For the time being I am a Samsung fan and I love the Note II but it's about time we had higher resolution AMOLED screens, twin speakers and aluminium chassis for what are ultra premium products.
Sv: HTC One vs Note II
The HTC One has a LOT more pixels to move around wich means that the extra 100mhz CPU power can't even begin to make up with it = laggy? (unless it has an awesome GPU). Also the screen 4'7 is too small for my taste.
This also means more power required from a much smaller battery in the One. Two things I really love about the Note II is the awsome battery life and the ability to simply switch battery if needed.
The One's design looks great however putting the rear speaker in the front looks retatded I think, and to put a "Beats Audio" logo on the back of that beautiful phone is also retarded
In autumn 2013 the Note III will be out and I can honestly say, I will keep my Note II till then!
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
All positive and negative aspects aside has anyone noticed how ugly HTC phones have become? Especially the back.
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this topic is about the all new "One" not the "One X"
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was about One X because I've read someone comment about it. Thanks for mentioning it.
galaxy358 said:
Even though htc one has a better specification, better screen, and faster processor. The battery itself will keep me and some people sticking to note 2 for the time being. If you want gaming, the HTC sure will provide better gaming performance (12,000 in quadrant! ) but from my experience of owning HTC one x and one x+, both have terrible battery, especially compared to note 2.
Htc also have quite lame software in my opinion. But HTC Sense looks better, much better than TouchWiz. Note 2 in my book is still the best smartphone to date with s-pen, split screen and other various productivity tools. Great phone for working. The battery will last a full day with heavy usage.
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I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
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Isn't it easier to put it this way without much of explanation.
Cpu = Htc one , it's 40% faster then the one in note and 40% more powerfull, battery consumption is less for around 50%
Display = Htc one , much better sharper crisper , brighter , viewing angles, much more usable on daylight and colors are more accurate then on amoled.
Battery = this one is unknown , but considering it has less power hungry chip smaller screen SLCD3 more power hungry display then amoled and full HD we can expect around 8 hours screen on time. Possibly more still unknown.
Design and build quality = Htc one no doubt about it.
Features = kinda hard call , HTc one comes with plenty of new things while note holds of it's own.
Camera = reported to be currently the best one on the market especially in the dark ( 300% more light then on other devices )
About one X since you mentioned it , you really didn't know how to use HoX no offense still don't ( tho you're right when you compare stock vs stock ) , hox is on a different level now, runs games full effects no laggs ( that can't even s3 & note 2 do ) Battery life has literally doubled , check in my signature screen shoots you'll see almost 7hours screen on time with heavy usage and high brightness at some point.
Anyone final words: Htc one is great but i think us who have quad cores should skip it and wait to see what will sammy bring us in note 3, s4 and what will snapdragon 800 do , it's twice faster then s600. Just my 2 cents.
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About one X since you mentioned it , you really didn't know how to use HoX no offense still don't ( tho you're right when you compare stock vs stock ) , hox is on a different level now, runs games full effects no laggs ( that can't even s3 & note 2 do ) Battery life has literally doubled , check in my signature screen shoots you'll see almost 7hours screen on time with heavy usage and high brightness at some point.
Anyone final words: Htc one is great but i think us who have quad cores should skip it and wait to see what will sammy bring us in note 3, s4 and what will snapdragon 800 do , it's twice faster then s600. Just my 2 cents.
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I did a mere comparison of the two devices, the One X & Note 2 stock devices because that would be the first noticeable differences for prospective buyers. Is it a norm nowadays where you go to an electronics shop where customers would ask clerks of how their phones behave/function while running on custom ROMs? The answer is a no. First they compare the physical aspects of the phone literally head to head and next is what's under the hood.
@TOPIC - sorry for going off-topic.
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I did a mere comparison of the two devices, the One X & Note 2 stock devices because that would be the first noticeable differences for prospective buyers. Is it a norm nowadays where you go to an electronics shop where customers would ask clerks of how their phones behave/function while running on custom ROMs? The answer is a no. First they compare the physical aspects of the phone literally head to head and next is what's under the hood.
@TOPIC - sorry for going off-topic.
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Agreed about that one :highfive:, but we're *XDA geeks are we not * and all we do is flash more or less and on the way learn few things here and there :good: Anyway we're way off topic lol , excuse us guys.
You should wait and make a comparison between S4 and One.
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HTC One
cpu win
Note II
dispaly size win
3100mAh battery win
replaceable battery win
s pan win
4g win
sd card support:crying: win
note2 win
Hello everyone.
Just skimmed through separate forums for Asus Nexus 7 2013 and LG Optimus G Pro on XDA. I had my eyes set on the Nexus 7 2 tablet considering its big, full HD display, awesome gaming performance and high end battery. However, upon reading about a number of software issues that new Google updates have incurred AND some talk about defective units here on XDA forums (apparently, many have been having serious hardware issues out of the box) I have been made to think twice about purchasing this. I also began thinking that messaging (only using thumb like on a smartphone) in landscape would be a bit of a hassle for such a big screen and the portability might well be an issue.
LG Optimus G Pro, on the other hand, seems to sport the exact same screen quality but a smaller size instead. Do you believe this phone is an excellent alternate to the tablet and that the 5.5 inch screen isn't a BIG difference compared to new Nexus 7's display (considering the screen estate isn't exactly 7 inch with that really thick bezel)? Is the battery better and is the gaming performance and other performance related areas equally excellent in your honest opinion? Finally, do you feel that the build quality is such that makes the phone slip in the hand and that home button feels cheap (as some reviewers say so)? If there are any known issues that I should be aware of, kindly do let me know.
Just so that it's out there, I am looking for a device that is anywhere between 5 and 7 inches, has a FullHD display, sturdy build quality, excellent, lag-free performance, 2GB RAM and really long lasting battery. My primary use with the phone would be to check email, FB, Twitter, read e-books and occasional gaming. I did consider SONY Xperia Z but it seems to have washed out colours and the screen and battery timing is easily trumped by that of LG Optimus G Pro.
So then, enlighten me folks.
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Hello everyone.
Just skimmed through separate forums for Asus Nexus 7 2013 and LG Optimus G Pro on XDA. I had my eyes set on the Nexus 7 2 tablet considering its big, full HD display, awesome gaming performance and high end battery. However, upon reading about a number of software issues that new Google updates have incurred AND some talk about defective units here on XDA forums (apparently, many have been having serious hardware issues out of the box) I have been made to think twice about purchasing this. I also began thinking that messaging (only using thumb like on a smartphone) in landscape would be a bit of a hassle for such a big screen and the portability might well be an issue.
LG Optimus G Pro, on the other hand, seems to sport the exact same screen quality but a smaller size instead. Do you believe this phone is an excellent alternate to the tablet and that the 5.5 inch screen isn't a BIG difference compared to new Nexus 7's display (considering the screen estate isn't exactly 7 inch with that really thick bezel)? Is the battery better and is the gaming performance and other performance related areas equally excellent in your honest opinion? Finally, do you feel that the build quality is such that makes the phone slip in the hand and that home button feels cheap (as some reviewers say so)? If there are any known issues that I should be aware of, kindly do let me know.
Just so that it's out there, I am looking for a device that is anywhere between 5 and 7 inches, has a FullHD display, sturdy build quality, excellent, lag-free performance, 2GB RAM and really long lasting battery. My primary use with the phone would be to check email, FB, Twitter, read e-books and occasional gaming. I did consider SONY Xperia Z but it seems to have washed out colours and the screen and battery timing is easily trumped by that of LG Optimus G Pro.
So then, enlighten me folks.
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If you are not going to use Calling features more, you can go for the Nexus 7!
Else get a Nexus 5...
For videos, reading, or gaming, the difference between a 7" and a 5.5" diagonal is a lot more than you'd think. It's comparable to the difference between a 3x5 notecard and a mass market paperback.
For me, the N7 2013 is the perfect size. It's thin enough and light enough to easily hold in one hand and it easily fits in my inside jacket pocket
As to reliability, speed, etc, I've never seen the optimus pro, but my N7 is the best android device I've used.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
The N7 will do what you need and more; I use mine for reading and the screen is great. I doubt a smaller screen would work for reading any length of time and the battery life in the smaller devices will suffer from the long screen on time.
The 7" screen is a perfect size as it fits in a pocket easy enough. Its built well; I keep mine in my back pocket frequently, same as with the original N7, and after sitting on it many times (not recommended) it hasn't given me a problem. It's a Nexus so its easy to root and unlock, you can load custom OS and receives OS upgrades quickly. with other devices you have to wait for the OS to be released, then hope the manufacturer is going to upgrade the device, then wait months to get it.
The only other one I'd consider is the Samsung Note with the S-Pen as that looks like it would be useful for taking notes on a job site.
I haven't seen the LG. I have the N5 made by LG and based on that I'd consider their other Android products.
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For videos, reading, or gaming, the difference between a 7" and a 5.5" diagonal is a lot more than you'd think. It's comparable to the difference between a 3x5 notecard and a mass market paperback.
For me, the N7 2013 is the perfect size. It's thin enough and light enough to easily hold in one hand and it easily fits in my inside jacket pocket
As to reliability, speed, etc, I've never seen the optimus pro, but my N7 is the best android device I've used.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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This. You have to remember, it's the people having problems who are most likely to post those problems, people like me who have never had issues just use it and enjoy it. As for the difference in size, I have an s3 and while it's a great phone and easy to use 1 handed I will go to the 7 inch screen any time I have a chance. Much more user friendly, and if you like playing games there's no comparison at all between the 2 sizes, the bigger screen is just great.
I have the Galaxy Note 2 and the 2013 N7. The Nexus dwarfs the 5.5 inch note! I now only text with the Note, everything else is done with the Nexus. Build, display is just awesome! :good:
5.5" and 7" may sound like they are in a similar league, but they really aren't. The Nexus 7 is large enough to handle everything I want it to (minus excel spreadsheets ), but small enough to travel everywhere with me. I still have my 4.7" Galaxy Nexus, but it looks like a dwarf. A Note 3 I compared it to was better, but that would be still too small for my usage now after having used the Nexus 7 so much.
As for the issues: what the other guys said. The people with problems are the loudest and there are no perfect devices. Make sure to buy from a seller that is known for handling returns well. That goes for everything above 100€ for me.
If you want something between a 5 and 7 inch device then,
For s pen functionality - Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (5.7 inch)
For music and premiumness - HTC One Maxx (5.9 inch)
For the largest phablet in market - Sony Xperia Z Ultra (6.4)
If you want the most portable tablet for a reasonably good price get the N7 2013 of course :good:
I love sharing my opinions/experiences in these types of threads, but everyone else pretty much hit the nail right on the head.
N7.2 is recommended by myself, and pretty much everyone else in this thread. But to add my two cents, get a warranty if you have the money. I got a 2yr warranty on my 16gb from Radio Shack, and it covers EVERYTHING, just as long as the device can still be physically recognized as a N7.2. I ended up returning it after a few days for the 32gb version, because 16gb just isn't enough. And if you intend to playba lot of games, download videos/movies, or put music on it, get the 32gb. Trust me.
And the best thing about the warranty is that the device holds its FULL value for the 2yrs. So I can easily exchange it for a new device and still get the price that I paid deducted from the new device.
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[Central] Moto G reviewsThis thread is a collection of reviews, tests and more about MotoG :
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Written review (first sight) about our device by @lavafire
Full length review by gsmarena
Unboxing, Head to head with n5, Speed review, and video sample by @AndyCr15
Review and How to change back cover by @AndyCr15
Review by Android Central
Unboxing and Build Quality, Short Review, Display Quality and Video Playback, Speaker Test, LED Test, Benchmarks, Gaming Performance, Water-repellent Coating Tes, Sample 720p Video, Sample Slow Motion 720p Video, Autofocus Test by @jonmorris@shem2409
Review by @jonmorris
Review by @mobiletechReview
Scratch and drop test
Hard core testing
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Fantastic phone!!!!
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Moto G review
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g-review
The Moto G easily the best cheap Android phone you can buy right now. (And probably the only Android phone at this price point that delivers a user experience of this quality.) Every criticism of the Moto G has to be framed against its ludicrously low price. It’s frankly amazing that a manufacturer is able to put together a device like the Moto G for £135 and make money selling it.
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang
Great phone, but it doesn't have sdcard slot
Had Moto G for about 24 hours now, I am so impressed with this phone. I really want to let everyone know about it I have compared this phone a lot with Samsung S4, not because I hate it, instead it was my last phone and I have used it for months, so have a good idea of what I am on about
Screen
Some may consider the resolution on this phone being too low, compared to the high end flagship phones this is about 100 ppi less. But does this mean the screen is bad? No. In fact, I am loving it more than the AMOLED on Samsung s4. First of all, I am just going to say that above 300ppi I can't tell the difference. To me, 400+ ppi = higher battery drain + requires more CPU + requires more GPU. Just why? Maybe there are some untold benifit of higher ppi screens, but to me I just don't see any advantage what so ever. Apart from the fact you could say to your mate "my phone's ppi is higher than yours...". So this to me is a big thumb up!
Speed
Before we talk about anything else, I want to mention speed of this phone. My S4 was running stock android 4.3 means I should see a massive different when I switch to this phone. But the reality is not the case, it really doesn't appear to be that much of a difference. There may be 1/5 of a speed difference when opening apps, but that is like 0.2 seconds? Even for inpatient person like me, it is more than acceptable. At the end of the day, it make you think what Samsung is doing with their snapdragon 600, when moto g can keep up using a snapdragon 400... This is on stock android, don't even mention touch wiz... But seriously find a review video or go to a shop and see it for yourselves.
Software/ROM
Well not much to say here, it is running basically stock Android 4.3 with a few minor tweaks e.g. camera.
Storage
8gb or 16gb, it is always the question. Previously i'd say get 16gb, more future proof, however I choose 8gb this time. Not because of the 50gb gdrive storage (pointless if you have no internet connection), instead you could get OTG so if you really want to watch films on trips you can do that. Otherwise, 5.5gb is enough for general app installs. For photos, turn on auto google+ photo back up (or dropbox backup whichever fits u better) then delete the photos on your phone once they are uploaded.
Camera
Haven't really tested it, but at least ok from what I can see and don't expect it to match DSLR
Hardware/Ergonomics
+ Curved back, easy to hold. I especially like the dented "M" logo, it gives more grip, helps when I need to touch the top of the screen.
- Phone is a bit heavy, for people like reading lying down for a long time might be a bit of a pain.
+ Back cover is removable, awesome! In fact, there a lot of covers coming out soon.
- Although, back cover is hard to remove and a bit slippery, not so awesome.
+ Volume key & power key on the same side.
- Clean design, coming from HTC and Samsung, I really enjoy this kind of simple design. I don't like the HTC/Samsung logo on the most obvious place on your phone kinda ruins the look of the phone.
+ No physical keyboard (some may consider this to be a minus instead of a plus), I am just glad don't need to worry about menu wearing out over time
- Speaker on the back side of the phone
+ Due to curved back, no speaker sound is actually trapped when you place it on the back
+ Both headphone port and micro-usb port are located middle of top and bottom side of the phone respectively, again just simple and nice to look at
- No 4G connectivity. Not a problem for me, as I don't even get 3G where I live, a lot of people living in cities might find this some what a deal breaker.
- No removable battery
- No expandable storage
Battery Life
All i am going to say is 4.5 hours screen on time, 60% left. :good: I am not convinced the stats is accurate, so testing it right now to see if it is really that good.
Update: second time, 4hours22min screen on time, 8 and half hours on battery, 43% remaining.
FM Radio
I was never a radio fan, always thought it was kinda out-of-date technology. Then I moved to an area where there are hardly any 3g/2g coverage at all on the way to work, karma i guess... You might say just download music from google music/sportify, but I don't change my songs frequent enough and it just gets old. Conclusion: always better to have a phone that has FM radio than a phone that doesn't.
Notification light
It is plain silly to me why some OEM would even consider not include a notification light on their phone. *cough* iphone. *cough* windows phone. It make things so much easier, when all you need to do is glance at it rather than turn on the screen, then turn it off again just to check if your missing anything important. There is no more needs saying, it is just playing annoying without one, so another plus.
Value for money
For most of the people, money is a key factor when buying a new phone. Even if the price is not a burden, you might still get the same feeling as me, thinking it cost quite a lot and make the promise to use it for 2 years or more. Well, with this phone you won't get that. In fact, I brought mine thinking I will use it as a back up phone since no other phone has its spec in its price range. But after I started using it, I couldn't put it down. Now I am not even considering getting nexus 5 which was going to be my main phone.
What I look forward to
Hell this is XDA, obviously I want lots and lots of ROMs XD. But I also can't wait for 4.4 to come out and ART to be stable. I imagine it would make this phone even faster. Saw some comparisons between Dalvik and ART, have to say ART wins hands down especially considering it is still in development stage.
Final thoughts
So happy with this phone, and mostly happy about Motorola stepping up and giving us this product. This is important in the sense, they are fighting a price battle for us, the consumers. We should show some support to let the other OEMs know it is not about how much they spend money on advertising, it is giving us a great product with a reasonable price instead of throw in some latest chips and mark it £599 rubbish which is basically what is happening right now.
Tips
I would recommend everyone get this phone, and get the 8gb version. Since it cost so little, no one could moan at you when you get a new phone next year
lavafire said:
Had Moto G for about 24 hours now, I am so impressed with this phone I really want to let everyone know about it I have compared this phone a lot with Samsung S4, not cos I hate it, but simply because it was my last phone and I have used it for months. So have a good idea of what I am on about
Screen
Some may consider the resolution on this phone is too low, compared to the high end flagship phones it is about 100 ppi less. But does this mean the screen is bad? No. In fact, I am loving it more than the AMOLED on Samsung s4. First of all, I am just going to say that above 300ppi I can't tell the difference. To me, 400+ ppi = higher battery drain + requires more CPU + requires more GPU. Just why? Maybe there are some untold benifit of higher ppi screens, but to me I just don't see any advantage what so every apart from the fact you could say to your mate "my phone's ppi is higher than your...". So this to me is a big thumb up!
Speed
Before we talk about anything else, I want to mention speed of this phone. My last phone being Samsung S4 running stock android 4.3 means I should see a massive different when I switch to this phone. But the reality is different, it really doesn't make that much of a difference. There may be 1/5 of a speed difference when opening apps, but that is like 0.2 seconds? Even for inpatient person like me, it is more than acceptable. At the end of the day, it make you think what Samsung is doing with their snapdragon 600, when moto g can keep up using a snapdragon 400... This is on stock android, don't even mention touch wiz... But seriously find a review video or go to a shop and see it for yourselves.
Software/ROM
Well not much to say here, it is running basically stock Android 4.3 with a few minor tweaks e.g. camera.
Storage
8gb or 16gb, it is always the question. Previously i'd say get 16gb, more future proof, however I choose 8gb this time. not because of the 50gb gdrive storage (pointless if you have no internet connection), instead you have OTG so if you really want to watch films on trips you can do that. Otherwise, 5.5gb is enough for general app installs. For photos, turn on auto google+ photo back up (or dropbox backup whichever fits u better) then delete the photos on your phone once they are uploaded.
Camera
Haven't really tested it, but at least ok from what I can see and don't expect it to match DSLR
Hardware/Ergonomics
+ Curved back, easy to hold. I especially like the dented "M" logo, it gives more grip, helps when I need to touch the top of the screen.
- Phone is a bit heavy, for people like reading lying down might be a bit of a pain.
+ Back cover is removable, awesome! In fact, there a lot of covers coming out soon.
- Although, it is hard to remove and a bit slippery, not so awesome.
+ Volume key & power key on the same side.
- Clean design, coming from HTC and Samsung, I really enjoy this kind of simple design. I don't like the HTC/Samsung logo on the most obvious place on your phone kinda ruins the look of the phone.
+ No physical keyboard (some may consider this to be a minus instead of a plug), don't need to worry about menu wearing out over time
- Speaker on the bottom of the phone
+ Due to curved back, no speaker sound is actually trapped when you place it on the back
+ Both headphone port and micro-usb port are in the middle of top and bottom side of the phone respectively, again just simple but nice to look at
- No 4G connectivity. Not a problem for me, as I don't even get 3G where I live, a lot of people living in cities might find this some what a deal breaker.
- No removable battery
- No expandable storage
Battery Life
All i am going to say is 4.5 hours screen on time, 60% left. :good: I am not convinced by the stats, so testing it right now to see if it is really that good.
FM Radio
I was never a radio fan, always thought it was kinda out-of-date technology. Then I moved to an area where there are hardly any 3g/2g coverage at all on the way to work, karma i guess... You might say just download music from google music/sportify, but I don't change my songs frequent enough and it just gets old. Conclusion: always better to have a phone that has FM radio than a phone that doesn't.
Notification light
It is plain silly to me why some OEM would even consider not include a notification light on their phone. *cough* iphone. *cough* windows phone. Makes thing so much easier, when all you need to do is glance at it rather than turn on the screen, then turn it off again just to check if your missing anything important. There is no more needs saying, it is just playing annoying without one, so another plus.
Value for money
For most of the people, money is a key factor when buying a new phone. Even if the price is not a burden, you might still get the same feeling as me, thinking it cost quite a lot and make the promise to use it for 2 years or more. Well, with this phone you won't get that. In fact, I brought mine thinking I will use it as a back up phone since no other phone has its spec in its price range. But after I started using it, I couldn't put it down. Now I am not even considering getting nexus 5 which was going to be my main phone.
What I look forward to
Hell this is XDA, obviously I want lots and lots of ROMs XD. But I also can't wait for 4.4 to come out and ART to be stable. I imagine it would make this phone even faster. Saw some comparisons between Dalvik and ART, have to say ART wins hands down especially considering it is still in development stage.
Final thoughts
So happy with this phone, and mostly happy about Motorola stepping up and giving us this product. This is important in the sense, they are fighting a price battle for us, the consumers. We should show some support to let the other OEMs know it is not about how much they spend money on advertising, it is giving us a great product with a reasonable price instead of throw in some latest chips and mark it £599 rubbish which is basically what is happening right now. Basically
Tips
I would recommend everyone get this phone, and get the 8gb version. Since it cost so little, no one could moan at you when you get a new phone next year
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Impressive review! thanks mate.. I would get this for Christmas soon.. till it reach our region soon.. anyway, If you could make a full video out of this review, I would love to watch it.. thanks
Stop full quoting! Argh...
@lavafire Thanks, this describes the Moto perfectly, good for people who are considering yet.
Not a full review (I'll be posting that next week) but here's my blog entry about it: http://jmcomms.wordpress.com/2013/1...of-success-to-date-lies-in-the-budget-moto-g/
Battery life looks too good to be true and I hope everyone gets as gooder results as you
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Battery life looks too good to be true and I hope everyone gets as gooder results as you
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As mentioned in my video review, I got some of the best battery life I've ever seen from my Moto G.
SHEM's Moto G Videos
Here are my Motorola MOTO G Videos:
Unboxing and Build Quality:
Short Review:
Display Quality and Video Playback:
Speaker Test:
LED Test
Benchmarks:
Gaming Performance:
Water-repellent Coating Test:
Sample 720p Video:
Sample Slow Motion 720p Video
Autofocus Test
Sample Slow Motion 720p Video 2
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Not a full review (I'll be posting that next week) but here's my blog entry about it: http://jmcomms.wordpress.com/2013/1...of-success-to-date-lies-in-the-budget-moto-g/
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Please comapre Nexus 4 and MotoG interms of
Camera, performanceand other relevent fields.To
me some of the specifications seem similar.
i guess only the experienced users can actually advice
which one to buy.
Regards
Shikhar
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As mentioned in my video review, I got some of the best battery life I've ever seen from my Moto G.
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In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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The Note had a 5.3" screen.. That makes screen 38% bigger.
Also, the software makes a difference. And maybe the Snapdragon 400 is more efficient than the Exynos used by Samsung
I was going to say, your maths is a bit off there at 10%. You need to look at the area, not the diagonal length.
If you think back to when 4.5" screens where the norm on top end devices, most batteries were less than 1600mAh. The Desire HD for example had about 1300mAh I think.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/the-motorola-moto-g-an-impressive-addition/
....software optimization can go a long way, Motorola has compared the Moto G’s performance with the Samsung Galaxy S4, when performing minor tasks. Despite Moto G’s mid-range SoC, lower amount of RAM and less powerful graphics chip, the handset apparently manages to make a call 1.1 seconds faster than the Galaxy S4, it answers a call 1.2 seconds faster, returns home 0.5 seconds faster and boots up 5.3s quicker too....
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In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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Let's look at the numbers,
The Galaxy Note has a 1280x800 @5.3 inch screen -> 4.49" × 2.81" = 12.62in²
The Moto G has a 1280x720 @4.5 inch screen -> 3.92" × 2.21" = 8.65in²
-> The Galaxy Note has a screen 45.9% larger than the Moto G
-> The Galaxy Note also features a battery 25% larger than the Moto G
Remember, that the 4.5 and 5.3 numbers are the diagonal size and do not linearly represent relative screen sizes
The Moto G has a better (battery:screen size) ratio than the Galaxy Note.
How have you found the vibration motor on it? - to anyone who has one in hand yet.
The one in my Skate seems to make more noise than movement :laugh:
Hi all, I'm currently using the Galaxy S5 and looking to upgrade to the G4. Anyone has switched to the G4 from Samsung's high end phones like the S6 or the Note 4? Can you give some impressions and comparisons (Camera (most important), screen, performance)? Thanks a lot!
From Note 4.... The G4 should crush the S5 except water resistance
I did it after one month with s6 edge, battery in s6 edge is so bad, other things are ok and almost identical, no lags on both phones. Camera is identical.
I came from the S5 to the G4 and haven't even had a second thought on going back
Camera is amazing. UX 4.0 beats Touchwiz (in my opinion better than S6 as well, my wife has that). Just takes some getting used to the no "hard" home buttons and the power/volume buttons on the back rather than the side but once you do it's actually more convenient knowing a case can protect them even more and are less susceptible to being damaged
I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
Note 4 to G4 here. So far, seems better in all aspects. Only one it might not beat the Note 4 in is battery, but I haven't had for long enough to really see how it averages. Camera is better. UI seems cleaner and easier to use. Love double tap on, as I was used to it with the HTC M8 and missed it on the Note 4. Only weird thing I had to get used to was in the cam app, the 3 software buttons don't show up (have to hit the back button in the camera view).
LG really did well with this phone
Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
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I made same switch. And yeah, the G4 does seem to have just slightly better performance.
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Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I'll post more as I get to use phone more. Just got yesterday. So far, it's really nice. I had almost written LG off after the Optimus G. Glad I didn't. So far:
PROs for G4 vs Note 4
Lighter. Also noticeably smaller despite screen being almost same size.
Better Camera
UI - UX 4.0 really is nice and light
No Keyboard FCs! Man that was annoying in Lollipop Note 4...keyboard FC but stayed on screen, had to reboot to get rid of
Double tap on and Knock unlock code
Themes
Settings app broken down into proper sections (Note 4 Settings scrolls all day with all settings on a single scrolling list)
Can get a real Glass Screen Protector without the dreaded Halo effect around all edges (Note 4 curved edge to screen caused this no matter which glass protector I used (tried 6).
64 bit processor
Faster in real world use
Cool offers of free stuff from LG
About $200 cheaper
PROs for Note 4
Stylus (I only used a handful of times....was more of a gimmick to me)
Better battery life?
Fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor (I hardly used either, as the fingerprint scanner required an odd hand placement for such a large phone)
Physical Home button
Just different between the 2:
Home button and volume button placements (I prefer LG after using for a little bit)
Both have IR blaster, large beautiful screens, expandable storage, 3GB RAM, excellent wireless radios.
Switched over from a Samsung Galaxy S4...I traded it in for $100 to At&T so my G4 only cost me $99 + tax on my upgrade option. Loving it so far, praying for root to get rid of the bloatware. :fingers-crossed:
I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
I came from a rooted Note 3. First non-phone-specific: I REALLY REALLY miss root. The ability to block ads is missed and I have to wait to restore all of my titanium backups that I have sitting till the G4 is rooted.
As far as performance goes, my Note 3 was pretty snappy. I haven't noticed very many differences in performance yet. But I've been waiting for the battery to get a few cycles before I really start pushing performance with games and stuff.
Other than that, I don;t really miss my Note 3. The G4 is smaller, looks nicer has a better (but only slightly smaller) screen. I kind of miss AMOLED screen tech for battery and contrast, but everything else makes up for it. Do not regret it.:good:
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I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
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I have an S6e as well and agree with you. I had a Note 4 before the S6e and now the G4 and it feels downright massive compared to the S6e. The Note 4 felt smaller to me because it was thinner but it was a big device as well. I got rid of my Note 4 because of it's size, I ride motorcycles almost daily and the damned thing was never comfortable in my pocket, it was just too big and rectangle and flat. The S6e is perfect size for me in that regard but I really miss having a larger display (had a Nexus 6 before the Note). Because of the slight curvature of the back of the G4 it makes just enough of a difference in my jeans that it doesn't dig the corners of the phone into my leg when I squeeze the tank in turns, etc.
Cameras between S6e and G4 seem pretty similar to me but there is a difference but I attribute that to Samsung doing a better job of processing the jpg file that's output than LG with the G4 having the ace in the hole of giving you the raw file you can subsequently edit yourself. I know that's not what most people want to do (myself included for phone snaps), but I think the LG camera is better for that reason alone as you can certainly make a better image in the end. All that said, I believe the S6e will do the same once it gets official 5.1.1 and then a proper camera comparo can be done, though in all honesty it's still a phone camera and they are both outstanding for what they are.
Same thoughts on launchers too, the iteration of TW on the S6e is much better than anything they've done before but it still suffers from the same old problems of lag ultimately. I too use Nova (on both phones) and it solves the issue. If forced to use stock, I would probably pick the LG but I do hate the DPI of 640 and everything is so damned big and there's so much wasted screen real estate. The S6e out of the box with it's adjustable grid sizes and what not better utilizes the screen.
Agree on battery life also. On the stock ROM I could make it through a day (I work 18-20h shifts at times) on a single charge but I would cut it close some days. The built in Qi charging is really nice and I have a charger at work and I can just drop the phone on it when I can make it to my office and the quick charge via the INCLUDED wall charger is awesome. So even though the battery life wasn't great, it's quite easy to top it off. I did run the leaked TMo 5.1.1 software for a week or so and the battery life on it is a completely different animal. I could make it nearly 48 hours without a top off, so again, with 5.1.1 I think the S6e will be a lot better device than it currently is. The battery life on my G4 seems great so far. I've run it down to 10% twice now and it was at about 40h off charger each time. The phone itself supports quick charge 2.0 but the included wall charger doesn't. The wall charger charges it incredibly slow so I've been using my S6e charger which charges it in about 1/3 the time. I ordered a proper quick charge 2.0 certified charger that should be here tomorrow along with a Qi sticker for the stock back. All things considered, the G4 battery is certainly longer lasting but more of a pain in the ass to recharge for now (until my free spare battery from the promo shows up lol!) and for the way/scenarios I use my phone I prefer the S6e here. My Note 4 easily crushed them both in this category, it could go just over 3 days before dying.
Coming from S5 (Verizon) to the G4 (Verizon) ...
The S6 with no SD support was a no-go for me.
Battery life seems a little shorter than the S5. I suspect it is due to the beefier processor on the G4 even though the G4 has a bigger battery. The battery on the G4 seems to drop a LOT less when unused however.
I am kinda missing my fingerprint scanner on the S5, but the knock code and "locked files" in gallery help me keep certain pictures away from prying eyes.
Speaking of pictures, this camera is awesome. Period. Check out the "My LG G4 Photography" thread by alexfoxy. The front camera is pretty good too. A lady friend took a few selfies with my phone and said "damn, your phone makes me look good!"
I don't really notice the difference in the screen (size or resolution). S5 looked good and a the size is right for my big hands. G4 is the same.
This is the first phone that I didn't immediately wish for a ROM. I am missing my ad-blocking that requires root, but the default ROM is clean and fast (maybe kudos the the processor). I did have to change home back to Apex, tho.
All in all, very happy with the upgrade.
I'm coming from the Note 4 and I'm pretty sure the G4 is here to stay with me.
I can basically echo what others are saying;
- the ui is cleaner and smoother
- overall phone seems a lot smoother/quicker I haven't had much stuttering. The Note had its moments where it'd freeze or stutter really badly, even on a custom rom
- maybe it's just me but the pictures from the camera seem sharper.
- It feels better in hand aswell.
- The double tap on screen to unlock is nice to have
- the clip tray being an option when I long press where I would usually paste is nice to see as with the Note, the clipboard only showed up in select places
It just seems nicer overall. I do hope root comes soon as I'd want to disable some stuff.
In terms of battery, I feel like the Note might of done better but then again I had certain crap apps disabled *cough* tmo my account *cough*
I can't exactly judge though since my service at work sucks so whatever phone I use drains quickly. For some reason when I had the OnePlus it did a ton better in the poor coverage areas (in terms of battery drain) but it didn't have WiFi calling which is a big deal to me.
I didn't use the spen as much as I initially thought I would. When it came to taking notes I always went back to typing them rather than writing with the stylus. Although it did come in handy for selecting certain parts of a pic online and whatnot and quickly sharing it to something like hangouts.
Fingerprint and shealth I never cared for.
I haven't "missed" my Note 4 yet. I like having new devices and I'm sure I don't use them to their potential as some others do here but for my purposes the phone is great
Even though I have the HTC One M9 Dev Edition, I consider myself coming from the T-Mobile S5 to the T-Mobile G4. The dealmaker for me were the replaceable battery and removable storage. I'm still keeping my S5 of course. I still need a root-capable device.
To ex-note 4 users
What made you switch ?
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What made you switch ?
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Regarding the Note 4I got irritated with it to the point where I paid off half the phone's price to get rid of it. Lollipop was an absolute mess. First, we waited forever. Then when we get it, it really messed up the phone. Issues I had:
1) Constant keyboard FC (where keyboard stays on screen permanent until reboot)...this would happen about once an hour, but only when using special characters ( . , * $ etc).
2) Upon unlocking, I would go to a black screen occasionally, requiring me to press the power button to shut off phone, then turn back on.
3) Trying to open an e-mail from notifications would take me to e-mail APP, but to a blank page with a back button.
4) Sometimes, cellular radio would choose to ignore wireless data altogether despite being in a strong LTE area.
5) Wifi calling would hardly connect, and was as likely to drop mid-call as it was to stay connected
6) Battery life went from 2 days with my usage to about 18 hours.
On top of those Lolli issues, the settings menu was a mess...scroll all day to find the menu I wanted. Missed double tap to wake too.
While I LOVED the look of the M9 and I love HTC in general, I eliminated HTC M9 due to 2 reasons:
1) The camera wasn't a contender with the current flagships and I use it as my primary camera to take pics of my kids.
2) No dual apps on same screen. It's a feature I used on the Note 4, and M9 didn't have it.
The S6 got eliminated due to 3 main reasons:
1) Looks too much like IPhone...sorry, just not my style
2) Touchwiz...granted my opinion is based on the Note 4, but I found it to be overly heavy and loaded with things I don't really use.
3) No expandable storage. I read their point of using high speed EMMC and wanting to keep system fast. What I read in that was "Blah blah blah we want you to pay MORE to get more storage". Again, goes back to too much like IPhone.
I'm not saying the G4 is perfect...I'd love it to have an 8 core processor, but it's really powerful enough as is. It's not overloaded with apps I won't really used or features I don't use. I'm sure I'll find things I don't LOVE as I use it more, but nothing is jumping out at me so far, and considering this has only been out for what...2 weeks, it's still early release, so bugs could be expected somewhat even though I've had none thusfar. I also liked the promotions LG was putting with it considering it's the least expensive of all the flagships out there (at least for us T-Mobile customers...it's $50 less than the M9, $80 less than S6, $180 less than S6E, hell, it's even cheaper than a 16GB IPhone 6).
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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hah, once their sales figures come in they will not make that same mistake with the s7 is my hunch. g2-g3, m7-m8
Talk about scoring an own goal against LG
g2 vs s4 and g4 vs s6 (!)
At the time if g2 intl version was like g2 korean version i think i would have bought it.
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You could continue if you want
i'm not one of those TL;DR types.
I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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Honestly, processor and RAM doesn't make that much of a difference when they're this close.....Unless you're a gamer?
Other things to look at, that may make your decision.
Camera - OnePlus 3T wins
Audio - Axon 7 wins
How much space do you really need? My SD card died last week and I was all freaked out, but it all fit on my 64gb Axon 7 internal memory until my new card arrives.... If I had a bunch of movies to save, this would be a deal breaker. I even have 2100 songs and they only eat up about 7-8gb.
I'm an "audio" buff....So the choice was easy for me, and the camera is good enough on the Axon 7 that I can live with it and make it do what I need it to. Sometimes a little editing is needed.
Well this is my point of view, take it with a grain of salt.
ZTE:
- Better Screen (not reaaaaaally noticeable, yes it is better, but both are good enough so that you cant tell each other apart). Real difference might be appreciated with QHD wallpapers, but not much else.
- Better Speakers, and overall sound quality. This has to be the largest difference. Watching videos in the Axon vs the OP3 is like going from dial up to broadband. Plus, the Axon drives higher impedance headphones without much of a hassle.
- Better in call quality. This is a direct consequence of having better audio.
- SD Card Support. I thought I wouldn't need it too much but actually, it is a nice thing to have.
OP3:
- The fact that the screen itself is lower res, means lower battery consumption. Since I read an article from AnandTech, we might be talking maybe up to 30% less usage from the screen + cpu/gpu load.
- The camera has to be better, you don't have to work yourself out to get an awesome picture. Though, if you get it right on the ZTE you can absolutely get beautiful pictures.
- Better processor? Really? Lets suppose you actually need the difference in clocks, where the OP3 would make a difference, how long can you really keep that clock up? Maaaybe 5 minutes before hitting thermal limits where the better cpu just doesn't mean anything anymore.
- Physical button. Well this is really up to you, I prefer the fingerprint scanner on the back.
- Alert Slider. Really an advantage for the OP3, really like this feature, and if it ever becomes configurable, that would be awesome.
-6GB of RAM?? Well, I have 4GB on my Axon and never has an app crashed on me, and I was suprised to find myself having 20+ apps open without the phone even noticing and instantly switching between them with all of them loaded in RAM. So this one is up to you, but I wouldn't mind. It does make the OP3 more futureproof if anything...
- Software> the OP3s software is hands down better than the Axons and that is the best that the OP3 can pull over the Axon, by far.
About support, well I don't know how well any of them do with support so i will not comment on this.
My conclusion is then: should you care about media consumption, buy the Axon, don't even think about it. If what you want/need the best performance around and like having the best software and dev help, then get the OP3. I wouldn't look on hardware differences too much.
Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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Axon 7 has Daydream support, also.
Now that Axon 7 is getting proper sound support on LOS/LOS based roms, it is Axon 7 hands down.
A7 has better cellular connectivity support. Has more bands than the OP3/T do.
How prevalent is this Google Play bug I am seeing on the Axon 7?
I've had three OP phones and never buying them again. All above aside, they have terrible touch screen lag which makes them unusable. Axon is also cheaper.
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I have both...Also mate 9..Just bought each over this last month...I am coming from my still loved note 5..
First off...Don't think too much into 2k unless vr is your factor. I did too. But after experiencing these latest devices running 1080 with 5.5 inch to 5.9 I cannot believe I said all I did in the past...The one plus 3t is just as sharp for regular use and have not tried any VR on any device...The Axon 7 is great as well...Not as speedy as the latter but still a steal for the price...To be honest the one plus 3t and Axon 7 are both comparable however the camera is a bit better FOR ME so far on One plus but I have to say that 20mp isn't bad at all...The 1440 on the Axon isn't that noticable to me either. Really. The one plus screen looks slightly better to me I guess because of the brightness and calibration. Still miniscule ...Both perform crazy fast for their price but one plus and mate 9 are definitely smoother for me...Just flip a coin. You can't go wrong...I just could not make up my mind so I bought them all...If I have to sell one I will. But for now they are all nice and safe clean and ready for my reviews...Sort of babbling here really but if you have any specific questions I can totally help. I do not keep notifications on so I'll have to check for reply manually. I haven't been on in a year here ...But I'll be checking back for your comments. Or Inbox
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You can supposedly get Google assistant on Axon 7 which won't happen on op3t
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crcostel said:
I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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crcostel said:
Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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crcostel said:
How prevalent is this Google Play bug I am seeing on the Axon 7?
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I can say I was on the same boat as you in January, when I bought my first Axon 7 and I was amazed with the device. Even when I loved it, I decided to get a Mate 9 because I heard it was a great device. I used the Mate 9 for a couple of weeks and sold it and got the Axon 7 again, I couldn't stand the media consumption in the Mate 9, because of the screen and the sound. The Mate 9 has an amazing display, but I'm used to QHD since many years ago, and somehow I could notice the difference in certain situations. About the sound, Axon 7 is clearly the winner here. The reason I changed the Axon 7 was the camera, because was average and everybody claimed that Mate 9 had a super camera. Truth is, that I didn't see too much difference between the 2 in picture quality, so better go back with the Axon 7.
Regarding the comparison, 821 is less than 10% better than 820, so it makes no difference in real world usage. RAM neither, because most of the time I have 2GB free on the Axon 7, so why should I want 2GB more?, that is only pure marketing and never an app would require so much RAM.
In my opinion, the physical home button is a waste of space, because it only makes the device bigger with no need. I always have hated capacitive buttons, but what I love about the Axon 7 is that even with capacitive buttons, the aspect ratio is great. Is smaller than some of the 5.5" devices I have used before that rely only on software buttons.
The OP3T has a worse display, both resolution and quality, and the people who say that is because of the battery, is lying or they don't know much about technology. Display technology has advanced so much in these years, and even when this statement was true in the beginning, now the QHD screens out there have similar power consumptions. Also to point that the screen on the Axon 7 is exactly the same of the Galaxy S7 Edge, so I can say is really nice to have a display like this one.
As for the OP3T, is true that is has slightly better performance, camera and battery, but is no match for the Axon 7 regarding media consumption (sound, display, storage, etc.) and the difference is huge between the 2.
As someone suggested you, if you aim to media consumption, there is no better device than this one. If you are kind of a ROM addict or you are deep into development, get the OP3T.
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P.D.: All the bugs and problems the Axon 7 (including Play Store) are fixed now with the update that came a few days ago, and I can confirm it.
P.D.2: Have you consider to wait for the OnePlus 5?
crcostel said:
Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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If performance is your concern then look no further and buy the OP3, unless, since you are an XDA member, know a thing or two about tinkering with ROMs and flashing your phone. In that case then its an Audio vs Camera situation...
In had the oneplus 3 and returned it within 2days. Axon 7 has been the better phone for me.
It's really a matter of opinion. You won't find that much difference in the specs.
Battery - The charging speed is the same (see this), and this), battery is the same (slightly better on the a7). I use the phone a lot and I'm very happy with the battery capacity.
Screen is nearly the same (A7: 2K AMOLED, OP3: 1080p Super AMOLED).
Processor - You won't notice the difference. Seriously, the A7 has great speed.
Camera - The A7's camera is excellent in day light. Not in day light? Not so much. It's fine. But in day light you can take amazing pictures with it (which show great on the screen ). There are a bunch of camera samples online from each phone (and maybe even a camera comparison), so check that out.
You might also want to check some other stuff out like durability, speed, etc. In videos. But do keep in mind that in speeds as high as flagships phone you probably won't notice the difference.
RAM - The 4GB RAM on the A7 is enough for me. I don't see how anyone would need 6GM RAM on a smartphone. (I've also heard that OP3 doesn't use all it's RAM, I wonder if that's fixed already).
The fingerprint scanner on the back is surprisingly comfortable and it's really a matter of getting used to it. I got used to it very quickly and it's instinctive to me.
The stock ROM isn't that great but it could be replaced by unlocking the bootloader so I personally wouldn't take that into account here. Plus the A7 started getting a lot of attention from ROM makers and has LOS official support and other ROMs available.
Also the A7 is cheaper.
The audio is also excellent.
Design is also great, the phone is very pretty (suck it LG G6 )
I enjoy my phone greatly.
Axon 7 +'s
audio
warranty
OnePlus 3T
pretty wood cases
It looks like the stock ROM is probably better (built-in dark theme and accent color adjustment. Well executed)
Processor matters. Maybe not in speed but the additional features Qualcomm rolls up in the chipset can... as long as the manufacturer implements them.
For me, it came down to warranty and particularly the Dash charging is proprietary. I'd rather not buy up a bunch of chargers which charge fast only on their phones. Yes, Quick Charge 3.0 is proprietary to Qualcomm in the sense that USB-C PD is the real standard - but it's less proprietary.
My next phone must have the most standard charging available. I'm tired of this proprietary charging junk. Dicking with finding the right power adapter is annoying and just adds up in $30 and $40 costs if I want car adapters and additional AC adapters which support whatever standard.
Just think of the extra $60 you spent on extra Quick/Fast chargers for the office & car which will be obsolete on your next phone. Hidden costs are crap.
I have it on mine. Just pressed home button held it and there it is. 7.0 stock.
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Thanks everyone - going to BestBuy tomorrow to get a feel for the ergonomics and then will buy from BH if it passes. Currently have VZW so I'll try to get it going and if not, off to ATT
Also worth noting that the Axon 7 can be had for almost 40% less than the equivalent 3T, which seems almost too good to pass up for an incremental upgrade.
Also, from what I understand, it only fully supports AT&T and T-Mobile in states so do beware.
With axon 7 getting proper sound on LOS and an SD card for me it's a no brainer....I like to take my movies with me when I travel so sticking everything on the 256gb SanDisk is awesome....I will never but a phone with no microSD...I don't even wanna count how many times I wiped internal storage when I was resetting for a new Roman install....Having my TWRP backups on external storage was literAlly a life saver for me personally