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What else is there

I am curious, what else is there besides tether apps, that we can put on here that the evil ATT doesn't want us to have.
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Well I haven't found too many other apps in the normal Market that aren't in the ATT one beside the Tethering software. Then again turn the phone to Airplane mode while on a Wifi network and you are no longer filtered by ATT so you can install what ever you want as long as you have root.

Lol...apparently ATT blocked a game called Toss It by Boolba Labs because theirs an option to toss an iPhone into the trash can. Lol.
Is it..."legal" that ATT cab filter apps they choose?? I mean they're already blocking installing third party apps. I mean what "legit" reason could they come up with?

swype has to be sideloaded

i'd be more concerned with removing the junk at&t wants you to have rather than putting stuff they may not like on there!

mattbollenbach said:
i'd be more concerned with removing the junk at&t wants you to have rather than putting stuff they may not like on there!
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Oh, well ATTN1's Liberated ROM B005 took care of that little issue right quick!

asiancuta said:
Lol...apparently ATT blocked a game called Toss It by Boolba Labs because theirs an option to toss an iPhone into the trash can. Lol.
Is it..."legal" that ATT cab filter apps they choose?? I mean they're already blocking installing third party apps. I mean what "legit" reason could they come up with?
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Is it Legal?! HA ha...They (ATT) can do wahtever they want. Lock that ***** down..You dont like it you can not buy it...
Or buy it and tell ATT to KISS OFF by rooting it and flashing another ROM.... That's Legal, too!!!..I have Liberated b005. Took me all of 5 minutes..

So I just rooted my phone, what now?

Ive been reading about the possibilities of rooting and why its a good thing.
Well I finally rooted, but what should I do now?
I've already removed the bloatware and im not interested in themes.
As for ROMS/CustomOS, there hasnt been any ROM that sets it that much more better then the stock 2.2firmware that came with the phone. Aside from the possible swipe texting, is there any significant benefit from using a custom ROM as oppose to the standard OS?
Also what are some must have apps for rooted phone?
Feels like the only real benefit from rooting (if one is not interested in themes/looks) is just removing bloatware

Same boat
So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?

Rhill051 said:
So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?
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Im not sure about titaninum backup or the liberty 1.5 youre trying to install.
However, I can hopefully share with you what I know about the free mobile hotspot. If by that you mean tether, than yes, you do need a seperate app. In fact the app is the only thing you need, no need for roms and what not. Some of the tethe rapps are PDAnet, easytether, and wireless tehter
theres probably more but those 3 are the ones I see most mentioned and hear success stories with most of them

alot of the Roms out there include a wireless 3g hotspot app in them, for example the rom im rocking is Darkslide 4.2 and it includes the app, and always remember to give credit where credit is due ^_^ and always thank the devs for doing this for free

Oh for sure, I appreciate the help info ethus site is the bomb and the dev's here kick butt. So I was using pda net before I rooted but I was told by someone that you can get the wireless hot spot by rooting. I might check out that dark sliders rom too. Is it a lot of work tojump between roms?

Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.

droid_freak said:
Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.
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How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes

Rhill051 said:
How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes
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He's confusing Verizon with AT&T:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/...-using-unauthorized-tethering-methods-to-pay/

Bloatware Removal Thread

Now that the AT&T Galaxy S3 is rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726960
My favorite thing to do after a first root is to use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware. Here's the list of stuff I took off:
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Media Hub
Music Player
My Files
My AT&T
S Memo
S Suggest
Play Books
Play Movies
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YP Mobile
My list is just from a quick glance. If anyone else knows of other bloatware items that can be safely removed please post and add them.

Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.

stevieraveon said:
Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.
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I agree. I would remove the entire list above except for Flipboard. If you set it up to just the things you're interested in, it works really well.

Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII

manny05 said:
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII
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Yeah, totally and it wont void your warranty or tip the counter

How do you disable it? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone

Brianaro said:
How do you disable the? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone
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Settings/application manager/all then just choose the one you want to disable and click "disable" at the top. If it updated itself, click "uninstall updates" first, then "disable" will be available

First run around, give it time u will learn everything. Dont rush, read and understand the language spoken, the software and its uses.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using XDA

manny05 said:
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII
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there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....

drawde40599 said:
there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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What is the difference between freezing and disabling? I always freeze using titanium backup.
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How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.

paleman27 said:
How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.
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Have to be rooted and then either freeze or delete individual apps under the backup/restore section.
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Here is what I have frozen / disabled:
All Share Controller
All Share Play
All Share Service
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
Bluetooth Share
Bubbles
Clock
Clock Funky
Clock Modern
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Deep Sea
Dual Clock Analog
Dual Clock Digital
FlipBoard
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Search
Google+
Kies Air
Kies Via Wifi
Live Wallpaper Picker
Luminous Dots
Media Hub
Mobile Print
myAT&T
Phase Beam
S Suggest
Samsung Keyboard
Voice Recorder
Voice Search
Windy Weather
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPmobile

Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.

johnnyutah22 said:
Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.
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There is no reason to delete with these phones anymore. Freezing is perfectly fine and achieves the same thing. Ota will probably work the same so better safe than sorry lol.
Sent from my Axiom MAXX!!

drawde40599 said:
there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
altitude909 said:
With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...

Here is my list. Keep in mind that I use my market-purchased apps for texting, phone/contacts, calendar and a few other things.
So I've disabled some things that other folks shouldn't.
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
AT&T SOftware update
ChatON
Clock (digital)
Clock (funky)
CLock (modem)
Contacts 4.0.4
DirectShareManager
Dual clock (analog)
Dual clock (digital)
Email 4.0
FWUpgrade 1.2.0
Gmail
Google+
[BOOKMARKS] Internet
Kies air 2.1
Kies via WiFi
Media Hub
[SMS/MMS PREFS]
Mobile print
My files
My Uploads
myAT&T
Nearby devices
News Daemon
Phase beam 1.0
Samsung keyboard
SNS 1.01
Tags 1.1
Talk 4.0.4
TalkBack
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPMobile
I'm far from done.
This was just the quick & easy stuff.
I'm getting better battery life than with any phone I've had before.
Last one was a GSII Skyrocket.

raqball said:
Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...
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The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...

altitude909 said:
The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...
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There is a flash counter on the SGS2 as well and Chainfire was able to figure out a way to reset it (Triangle Away app). I'm sure it will be possible with this phone too eventually.
According to the comments, it works on the international S3 already.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en

Google wallet and AT&T S3

Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?

There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.

wiz4769 said:
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
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there is info on this, if you search.
wallet is only support officially by sprint. the rest of the carriers you will have to find the modded apk for wallet.
(also, i hit the thanks button accidentally instead of 'quote' on your post, so free thanks for you!)

I searched, but anything that comes up is about Sprint having it and AT&T not...But at least I know that it will be possible at some point.

The question is if the At&t version has a secure element. If it doesn't, then there is no chance.
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How do we go about finding something like that out? If they are wanting their version of the s3 to work with some other "google wallet" type system, it would seem it would have all the same requirements. I dont see them killing the ability completely, just had the software side removed. But who knows what these guys will do these days.

Att is developing their own system with some other carriers called ISIS. Probably not a chance to get Google wallet working on the att version.
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wiz4769 said:
Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
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I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
EDIT: That only works on rooted devices, my bad

Having to root it is not a big deal, I just wanted to know it was possible to use it if the need came up. Right now I dont think NFC payments are big enough to consider a must have, but if the day comes that 8 of 10 shops use some sort of nfc payment system it will change my mind for sure. I just like to know that I can do something. Im sorta waiting to root as well Its running like a champ and everything that i use daily is working without a root. Once a nice easy one click is out that will not trip the counter I will go for it, or if some app or ability that I just have to use requires it. But just enjoying the phone for now as is

I am rooted still doesn't work on i747 just hangs on activating
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Maybe now that so many are getting this phone we will see some work being done to figure this out.

to get it to work you will need to fudge the phone into thinking it's connected with Sprint using Market Enabler or equivalent. That's I had to do on my G Nexus in canada.

so, for some reason, i installed it, it loads but i get this message, and just stopps.
"Initializing your device. this make take a few min...... blahh blahh.. "
thats it..

Worked for me on Canadian sgs3...
I'll try post instructions for it tomorrow evening.
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[Q]I337, 5.0.1 What AT&T apps/bloat can be TB force removed?

So I just switched from ATT to Tmobile, just now upgraded to 5.0.1 on my I337, as always... filled with bloat.
Anyone know what apps are safe to force remove from the system using titanium backup? (Man I miss the good ol days where we had that auto installer/debloater rom flashes) Just checking since I dont want to mess this up. Mainly I already have "Turned off" these ATT apps.. but still... no point in keeping them really... if anyone has seen a thread or knows. Would be great. Thanks. =)

Anyone? Or does no one really remove all the bloat anymore?

Mysticales said:
Anyone? Or does no one really remove all the bloat anymore?
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Try searching, I337 bloat removal xda
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Freeze any At&t apps... See how it goes and then uninstall them after some testing.
Same with any Samsung apps

Yea, thats the thing tho, Ive looked at those results. Most of that talks about stuff from 2013. Which of course is a lil different to todays stock bloat.
I also HAVE seen this.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-remove-bloatware-from-your-android-device-xda-tv/
Which does talk about the debloater tool. However as you know the app doesnt support "blocking" for the I337, You can hide stuff, maybe even remove, HOWEVER this app itself doesnt say whats safe to remove like old debloating tools did which were clearly bloat. This one, if you do the wrong thing, you can mess up quite a bit.
Which leaves me to my orig question. =/