Ive been reading about the possibilities of rooting and why its a good thing.
Well I finally rooted, but what should I do now?
I've already removed the bloatware and im not interested in themes.
As for ROMS/CustomOS, there hasnt been any ROM that sets it that much more better then the stock 2.2firmware that came with the phone. Aside from the possible swipe texting, is there any significant benefit from using a custom ROM as oppose to the standard OS?
Also what are some must have apps for rooted phone?
Feels like the only real benefit from rooting (if one is not interested in themes/looks) is just removing bloatware
Same boat
So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?
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So I just rooted my phone too, I was hoping to gain the ability to remove the bloat ware and maybe free mobile hot spot, but im such a noon im too worried about bricking my phone so really all I've done is the initial root, I did download the liberty 1.5 and saved it to my memory card but I don't really know if I did a full backup or not. I downloaded the titanium backup app that specifically says root on it and did what I thought was a backup in preparation for putting the liberty rom on my phone. Do I automatically gwet free mobile hotspot or is that a separate app all together?
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Im not sure about titaninum backup or the liberty 1.5 youre trying to install.
However, I can hopefully share with you what I know about the free mobile hotspot. If by that you mean tether, than yes, you do need a seperate app. In fact the app is the only thing you need, no need for roms and what not. Some of the tethe rapps are PDAnet, easytether, and wireless tehter
theres probably more but those 3 are the ones I see most mentioned and hear success stories with most of them
alot of the Roms out there include a wireless 3g hotspot app in them, for example the rom im rocking is Darkslide 4.2 and it includes the app, and always remember to give credit where credit is due ^_^ and always thank the devs for doing this for free
Oh for sure, I appreciate the help info ethus site is the bomb and the dev's here kick butt. So I was using pda net before I rooted but I was told by someone that you can get the wireless hot spot by rooting. I might check out that dark sliders rom too. Is it a lot of work tojump between roms?
Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.
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Just remember than Verizon is now monitoring rooted phones and they can send you a bill for data. I would suggest against it but it depends on where you live as to if they are monitoring.
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How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes
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How do they even know that a phone is rooted? Im guess I don't know what to think of that.. I know its a service you are supposed to pay for but isn't that kinda along the same lines as apple or google monitoring you? Do we know what markets Verizon is monitoring? Is it something where they pick the people who are using gig's of data, I've only used maybe a couple hundred megabytes
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He's confusing Verizon with AT&T:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/...-using-unauthorized-tethering-methods-to-pay/
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Okay so when I first got the phone I usually had around 100mb of ram avalible and now I am floating in the 40s and even that seems really low to me I have two widgets beautiful widgets and a to do list and I don't have many apps on the phone overall my question is having 40mb of ram really low or is it normal??
Not sure what is norm mine is. Mine very seldom drop below 155 and rebuild fast. Have 3 Windows of widget close 200apps. Rooted and romed using Darkslide v4
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so idk what could be wrong...like im always in the 40's
rayne58 said:
so idk what could be wrong...like im always in the 40's
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check the programs that are always updating such as wx.msg.news. and so on.
The Android pretty much controls the available memory so don't run on and add on a "Task Killer".
I didn't catch what Rom your running but VZW crapware is a memory leach.
Time to start snooping around and get that phone working for you.
Best to ya...
yeah im not rooted or anything so I am running stock just using launcher pro
I recommended root the phone with Z4root app and install Autokiller. Preset it at Extreme or Ultimate. Note: Auto Killer is NOT same as Task Killer. Is similar but they are not same app. If you have low RAM, it tends to delay or freeze the phone. Auto Killer will definately help. Odds are you have too many apps running simultaneously.
I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
It's normal. I'm completely stock and I hover in the 40s as well.
just bumpin so hopefully someone could be so kind and answer my questions
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I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
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Rooting start to finish can be under 10-15 minutes pretty easily.
When new updates come, usually you must un-root (at least I did to get this last update with Madden, etc), get the update, then re-root again. It's fairly simple.
Once you're rooted you can do additional things you couldn't do previously, remove bloatware (VZN crapware), do things like WIFI tether, and also install themes, remove ads from free/trial apps, etc. I am rooted and only did it for WIFI tethering and honestly use LauncherPro so don't have a need for themes yet. I may actually re-root only because I'm not taking full advantage anyway. The nice thing here is it is ALL at your discretion. Once rooted, you would continue to use the Market as you did previously, nothing changes there to get apps and such.
Rooting is not the same as "flashing" a ROM if you came from Windows. All it does is unlock it somewhat to allow for additional SuperUser permissions. None of your apps will change unless you change ROMs.
Go for it, just make sure you read lots before doing it. If all else fails, remember you can reverse what you did!
rayne58 said:
I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
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Rooting is VERY easy and allows you root level access to the system. You can install apps, ROMs, themes, etc that you wouldn't have been able to otherwise.
Shoot me a PM. I'm always glad to lend a hand.
How is the phone running? If its running fine, i'd say just let it be.
I've seen it in a few posts around the forums, "free memory is wasted memory" the Android OS should make room for itself. In some aspects you are better off having the apps you use the most running, meaning you don't have to wait for them to load.
I'd say if you are having some performance issues, then look to rooting/removing apps, otherwise, let the ram do what its supposed to do and hold data.
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I'm trying to remove all the additional stuff off my Evo I'm never going to use (don't give a crap about Nascar, thank you Sprint. At least the Instinct let me get rid of that app.) but I'm reading that the only way to uninstall is to root. I'm not asking about how to do that, I can use search for that, but I'm just wondering, apart from Peep and FriendStream (I think there's an app called Tweet or something too), plus the internal apps Android needs to run, which apps can be safely removed to free up storage space/improve battery life?
Particularly I was looking at removing FlashLite, Blockbuster, Sprint Navigation (like anyone uses that when there's Google Maps), and the Nascar and football apps. But I could see HTC/Sprint sticking some system necessity in those so you can't remove them without breaking something else...
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New question: Would I be able to dual-boot my phone (say, CM6 and what it has on there now) without too much trouble? It doesn't sound like it'd be too different than having two OSes on a PC, on the startup screen it'd just ask which you'd want to boot...
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I'm trying to remove all the additional stuff off my Evo I'm never going to use (don't give a crap about Nascar, thank you Sprint. At least the Instinct let me get rid of that app.) but I'm reading that the only way to uninstall is to root. I'm not asking about how to do that, I can use search for that, but I'm just wondering, apart from Peep and FriendStream (I think there's an app called Tweet or something too), plus the internal apps Android needs to run, which apps can be safely removed to free up storage space/improve battery life?
Particularly I was looking at removing FlashLite, Blockbuster, Sprint Navigation (like anyone uses that when there's Google Maps), and the Nascar and football apps. But I could see HTC/Sprint sticking some system necessity in those so you can't remove them without breaking something else...
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You can remove all of those safely without messing up anything. I would recommend just flashing a ROM that has all of that crap removed already cause they usually take out more of that bloatware.
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I'm trying to remove all the additional stuff off my Evo I'm never going to use (don't give a crap about Nascar, thank you Sprint. At least the Instinct let me get rid of that app.) but I'm reading that the only way to uninstall is to root. I'm not asking about how to do that, I can use search for that, but I'm just wondering, apart from Peep and FriendStream (I think there's an app called Tweet or something too), plus the internal apps Android needs to run, which apps can be safely removed to free up storage space/improve battery life?
Particularly I was looking at removing FlashLite, Blockbuster, Sprint Navigation (like anyone uses that when there's Google Maps), and the Nascar and football apps. But I could see HTC/Sprint sticking some system necessity in those so you can't remove them without breaking something else...
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nahh you can take all of those out. Dont get rid of htc facbook or you wont have a way to sync contacts. (if that matters to you)
Okay, thanks for the tips. I've been eying CyanogenMod as a possible OS replacement, but Sprint isn't going to come and bar me from making calls or accessing their network, are they? (reading how Motorola almost bricked any Droid X running unauthorized software isn't helping)
edit: I do know to do a Nandroid backup before doing any of this, but can I set my phone back to S-ON if it has to be taken in for service?
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Okay, thanks for the tips. I've been eying CyanogenMod as a possible OS replacement, but Sprint isn't going to come and bar me from making calls or accessing their network, are they? (reading how Motorola almost bricked any Droid X running unauthorized software isn't helping)
edit: I do know to do a Nandroid backup before doing any of this, but can I set my phone back to S-ON if it has to be taken in for service?
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Nope they shouldn't...
Yes you can. its not to hard to do either.
There is a zip flashable in recovery that will put you back to s-on. I can pm you a link if you can't find it. I think it's called unrevoked-forever-son.zip.
Okay another stupid question... In checking my version of hboot I managed to boot my phone into recovery mode. I pulled the battery and it seems to work but I wanted to make sure I didn't screw something up by mistake.
edit: did some research, doesn't look like anything's going to be wrong, since I never connected my phone to a USB of any kind... But my Pandora widget is broken, which I can work around with by just reinstalling the app. Am I still good to root though?
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by booting into recovery? no. if you want help rooting, i can help. even if you need a bit of hand holding, i'm not smart enough to help with anything else so...
Thank God, thought I might have destroyed any and all opportunity =/
I'll probably wait until Gingerbread to go beyond simply killing the Sprint Nascar, Football, FlashLite, and Nova apps...
once you root, you can get gingerbread and keep root. you might even be able to get gingerbread before stock with a leak, and you can already get an aosp version. either way, it will take a while for devs to root gingerbread. you can just root now, and upgrade your rom and radios to gingerbread later, giving you the exact same results but ROOTED! confusing? yes. opposite of ios? yes. awesome? also yes.
Definitely the opposite of i(P)OS, it looked so awesome until maybe six or seven hours after I got my Evo when Sony announced Playstation Suite... Now I'm just waiting for Gingerbread to come (and for a stable CM7, don't want to flash a beta ROM as my first only to have something go horribly wrong)...
so you dont want to root then? you might have to wait a while once gb comes out...
it has not yet been released... but here is a link to the guy working on dual booting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847423
Do u guys think its safe to install Sprint's new Total Equipment Protection App? Im kinda worry that with the app they could tell our devices is rooted and refuse to give us a new device if needed.
I wanna use it because it coz has cool stuff like GPS ur device online and stuff
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Do u guys think its safe to install Sprint's new Total Equipment Protection App? Im kinda worry that with the app they could tell our devices is rooted and refuse to give us a new device if needed.
I wanna use it because it coz has cool stuff like GPS ur device online and stuff
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Epic isn't supported. Go on the website. As of Monday, the Epic was the only Android phone not supported by the app.
Eh, it's on the supported devices page, but they have the wrong picture and say only 2.1 is supported.
With that said, I have it installed on my stock EB13 with no problems, and I just tried the "locate my phone" thing and it worked just fine. Unfortunately I have no idea if it would be able to tell if you are running a custom ROM or anything, but I plan to uninstall it before I root and load up a new ROM again, just to be safe.
well it is possible that they can see what os we are running as it pulls the info from the device. websites do this all the time. we hear reports of an android version like 2.3 or 2.4 showing up in access logs of who visited the site... i would think the app would do something like that also. so i would not use it... i use lookout mobile security.
To be honest, that app scares the crap out of me. I don't need Sprint telling me they will not support my device anymore cause they had an application that told them what was happening on my phone. I would much rather use another application. Would suck if I had hardware failure, and they decided they will not replace it under warranty because of the evidence they have on hand to show that I was using root and foreign Roms.
I installed the app on my rooted dk28 epic and ill let you guys know. I'll know in the next couple days.
It does not work on my custom rom. I'm running Nebula, which declares itself in about phone. TEP program probably checks version numbers.
AFAIK this app won't run on a modded Epic for some reason. I hear it runs fine on the Evo roms.
i wounder if sprint can tell if your rooter and custom from just connecting to data services such as 3g and or 4g? They could pull simple things like version numbers... we could blame it on the 20 apps that google pulled that rooted phones....
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i wounder if sprint can tell if your rooter and custom from just connecting to data services such as 3g and or 4g? They could pull simple things like version numbers... we could blame it on the 20 apps that google pulled that rooted phones....
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There is another thread hanging around that would be of interest to you. Try the search
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Noob here! I hope I didn't post this in the wrong section. I'm wondering who of the pros could build me a custom rom for some htc devices (aria, thunderbolt, and maybe inspire) or if you have one that may be fitting for my needs. I'm sure I could learn how and do it with a kitchen[I made a few for WM devices before]. Or perhaps someone would be willing to walk me through learning how-{I know nothing about programming though}. Right now the Aria is most important as I haven't rooted my Tbolt yet. I find there are lot of roms out there I could try but I need something very stable (I'm giving this Aria to a kid and dont want to have to fix it for him all the time). I don't have the time to follow all this dev stuff and feel like learnig it myself will be a little overwelming...PM me if you feel like
For the Aria...
Im OK with Sense but like to use ADW launcher
Strip out all bloatware including Facebook, Friend Stream, Mobi TV,IM, Mobile Banking, Peep, Where, YPMobile, Weather, Stocks, Utube, Talk, News, All AT&T stuff
Remove Internet App
Remove Gmail & Mail App
Android 2.2 or higher would be cool but not nessiccary
Kill the Market
Ad Google Voice
If you know of a good firewall that can block data except for certain apps (like Voice)
Edit: Swype would be nice too!
Basically He's a kid and I don't want him to have access to all the [email protected] out there That even the cheap stripped AT&T phones have so I chose an Android so i can customize it.
I have a better suggestion, if it's a kid who shall use a smartphone, either change the phone type or go to Wi-Fi Wireless settings in Android and set 3G and Wi-Fi off. A kid isn't smart enought to start the wi-fi and if he does, make sure your wi-fi is password protected (encrypted). Because you can make sure the phone can't access the internet without 2G/3G - Wi-Fi disabled.
Smarter solution then bricking the phone ^^,
If the aria is rooted just uninstall all those apk.
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Yeah but why? If he uninstall Market, how will he get it back? Suppose he could find something like Market.Apk or download it from a update or recovery(?).
Sounds meaningless to go throught that much trouble just to make sure your kid can't access the internet.
Sounds like he needs a butt naked Cm7 or MIUI..........or a flip phone lol
Just install CyanogenMod without the google apps that should cover most of it
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You guys really don't know kids this days, he will get all this stuff back in no time
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You guys really don't know kids this days, he will get all this stuff back in no time
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Ya im a kid and the only way my parents can only get my data gone by taking it off the plan o would easily get it back
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I'm not sure if this applies to the aria or not, but on my phone (verizon fascinate), there is a file named pppd_runner in /system/bin/ that, when removed, "breaks" data. Wifi will still work (not sure how to break that though), but he will not be able to receive MMS messages.
You need to be rooted to remove this file, and if you want to restore data on his phone you can simply restore the file. I suggest you backup the file somewhere safe and then remove it.
As for the internet-related apps, you could always remove the .apk files from the phone using titanium backup, root explorer, etc.
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How old is the kid?
Do as you're told and install a CyanogenMod 7 (clean), chance that you brick your phone is there but if you do it perfectly it's nothing to worry about.
Errr Get titanium backup and unistall what you dont want !
All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
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All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
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Run supreme sense
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Run supreme sense
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I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no
You can use Treve's app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.treve.loggingkey
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I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no
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Show her that video and tell her you want a divorce if she doesn't agree.
lol jk about the divorce part but seriously I just watched that video and im so glad im not on stock sense.
Flash MikShifted G v1.76 or Supreme Sense, then hand her back the phone. If she doesn't like them better than stock there is something wrong
i think people over think things too much about these little threats
+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root
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+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root
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I think he already mentioned that yes she does have root on stock if you read the OP. So yes titanium backup should be able to remove it no problem. Use the app carrier IQ detector to find out how much of it needs to be removed.
CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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I looked at the kernel. All there is in the kernel is bug fixes to allow CIQ to run properly. If you remove the system apps there is nothing for the bug fixes in the kernel to use.
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has anyone used the advanced version of treve's app on a shift successfully?
or removed the the ciq stuff manually with success? if so is there anything that needs to stay on the device so it doesn't brick.
i'm using a stock rooted rom and kind of want to stick with it.