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Phone Temperature?

My phone has been getting really hot even reaching 110 degrees this only using the phone for FB, Tapatalk or G+ is this normal or could be a faulty unit, and also could be this the reason for a not good battery life?

juancaperez2000 said:
My phone has been getting really hot even reaching 110 degrees this only using the phone for FB, Tapatalk or G+ is this normal or could be a faulty unit, and also could be this the reason for a not good battery life?
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During extended screen on time, like having Hit-it-rich running for 20 minutes
my Moto X Pure reached the temperature of 113
Still stock
The same screen time and app running on the One Plus One -- Reached the temperature of 101.3
The One Plus One is using CM12.1
These are battery temperatures according to the program.

I'm on my second moto x and it definitely runs much cooler than the first which would get to 112 browsing chrome.
I haven't bothered to check this unit as it is that much better.

The only time I noticed mine get hot was when I was installing all my apps. Since then, it's been remarkably cool, even when streaming Rick & Morty HD from Amazon.

It gets hot with Candy Crush...

mine gets warm from charging or just when i have the screen on ...it's always pretty warm, but as far as problems go that is pretty far down on the list

Mine hit 120 degrees F according to Ampere using Waze on the drive home. I use adaptive brightness set at half. I also have an Incipio Case protecting it....although I feel it's only hurting it temp-wise. I'm so on the verge of rooting tonight, but feel I might want to hold off in case I have to return it for lower than wanted battery life and the announcement of the Huawei 6p.

The only time I've noticed it getting warm since initial setup was while making a nandroid backup. I've not been very demanding of it though.

Phone Temperature!!!
Mine gets to 107 when playing heavy 3D games and at same time downloading with LTE beyond ten minutes. Other than that it is barely warm to warm. 80s and mid 90s. Upper 90s with 3d games.

Mine easily gets above 110 when I'm playing clash for a few min. Seems to avg 100 anytime my screen is on. Thinking I might need to swap for another one.
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Only time mine got hot was when I tried to play Monster Strike while plugged in..got up to 107 but there was no degradation of performance.

are you guys talking celcius or F!? i sure hope F lol.
right now installing all my apps and charging on my samsung fast charger, it's at 150 F lol..pretty damn hot. i just cut my sim down to a nano sim but i think it cut some of the sim part off ugh..gonna try it..if not, off to verizon to get a card

mine ran 100+ at all times. Texting, tapatalk, facebook, anything it was always hot. Worst call quality, awful heat and battery I had return label printed after a half a day of use. Worst phone ever

∆ Too bad you got a dud. My Pure is great fwiw.
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mines getting pretty warm.. what are you guys using to view temp? the one I used says it can't read temp and only figured it out with an algorithm... so idk if it's even legit. but yeah this phone def gets warmer than my note 4. I have a feeling it's just a warm phone overall. when turbo charging it gets really hot when you're using it. I think it's fine though. I'll probably keep mine.
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When I returned mine to bestbuy the guy said the Moto X Pure was getting returned like crazy, and it was due to heat issues. He didn't even look at the phone to see if I had unlocked it, which I had. Apparently I was the fourth return that day and it was 2 PM.
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jayochs said:
mines getting pretty warm.. what are you guys using to view temp? the one I used says it can't read temp and only figured it out with an algorithm... so idk if it's even legit. but yeah this phone def gets warmer than my note 4. I have a feeling it's just a warm phone overall. when turbo charging it gets really hot when you're using it. I think it's fine though. I'll probably keep mine.
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GSAM Battery app
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gsam only shows battery temp though not cpu for me. hmm.
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At what temperature should we beware?
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Mine gets hot as well. Dk the exact temp but just browsing chrome, playing a game, or watching a Youtube video will make this phone hot. Most likely will return to Motorola this week, it's not much of an upgrade compared to the OPO in my opinion.

Phone runs uncomfortably warm

I've had my new phone for almost two weeks now and noticed that it runs uncomfortably warm. I noticed this right at the start in fact, a few minutes after I first turned it on, but as the built-in apps updated themselves I knew that would heat it up. It still got warm afterwards though, even before I installed my usual apps and transferred my data to it. Just having it switched on and fiddling about with the built-in apps was enough to make it heat up significantly after about 10 minutes use.
I then installed Battery Circle which reported a toasty 43 degrees centigrade. This seems rather too hot for comfort and the battery drain is quite significant - it dropped from 100% to 75% in just under two hours of use (not totally continuous) of web browsing, BBC and Facebook apps etc so I wonder, is there a hardware problem with my phone or if it's just the 808 chipset that's prone to running hot and hence normal for this model? Overall battery life even with moderate use isn't exactly fantastic, either and rather worse than my old Moto G (2014).
I did Google it, but couldn't find anything conclusive, even on XDA, with quite a lot of people seeing this issue and an equal number not seeing it, so can anyone shed some light on it? Is the upcoming Marshmallow update with its improved power management likely to alleviate it?
Although I like the phone and the performance is very good, I might just return it because of this issue and get a different phone. Prerequisites are stereo speakers and a minimum of 2GB RAM for smooth, stutter-free operation, everything else is not so critical. Any suggestions for alternatives? I paid about £350 for it off Amazon and would like to spend about the same on a possible replacement.

Same here, just browsing internet for 10 minutes, and phone turns noticeable hot.
Android 6.0 installed yesterday, same hot issue in the new ROM ( bootloader locked, ROM stock, recovery Stock)
Purchased in Amazon (399 + tax)
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I own MXS XT1572 (Indian dual sim variant) and it does not get as hot as you say... but yes, after 1 hour of internet browsing it does get hot enough to feel uncomfortable in hand. 10 minutes is something I noticed in one of my friend's Moto X Pure... and another friend has no issue with his moto x pure...
So maybe yes it can be a problem with half of the devices...

Well, good thing about 6.0 update is: temp is about 10degrees cooler from lollipop. I been doing the exact same thing and noticed the change. Pretty much constant gaming with full gpu use. Must be updated kernel or gpu. I'm hoping devs can look into this and come up with a rom/kernel to tweak these settings little bit more to make this device solid and put heating issue to bed.
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chindynasty said:
Well, good thing about 6.0 update is: temp is about 10degrees cooler from lollipop. I been doing the exact same thing and noticed the change. Pretty much constant gaming with full gpu use. Must be updated kernel or gpu. I'm hoping devs can look into this and come up with a rom/kernel to tweak these settings little bit more to make this device solid and put heating issue to bed.
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That's great news.
Been using it over the last couple of days in this colder winter weather without it getting excessively warm. It looks like it's quite sensitive to the ambient temperature, so I wouldn't be surprised if it suffered thermal runaway on a really hot day and burned itself out.

Do you people recommends to send this phone to warranty with this issue?
Just using Chrome for 5 minutes and battery show 42 degrees (celcius) , i dont remember any other app doing the same thing
Thanks in advance
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XT1068 said:
I've had my new phone for almost two weeks now and noticed that it runs uncomfortably warm. I noticed this right at the start in fact, a few minutes after I first turned it on, but as the built-in apps updated themselves I knew that would heat it up. It still got warm afterwards though, even before I installed my usual apps and transferred my data to it. Just having it switched on and fiddling about with the built-in apps was enough to make it heat up significantly after about 10 minutes use.
I then installed Battery Circle which reported a toasty 43 degrees centigrade. This seems rather too hot for comfort and the battery drain is quite significant - it dropped from 100% to 75% in just under two hours of use (not totally continuous) of web browsing, BBC and Facebook apps etc so I wonder, is there a hardware problem with my phone or if it's just the 808 chipset that's prone to running hot and hence normal for this model? Overall battery life even with moderate use isn't exactly fantastic, either and rather worse than my old Moto G (2014).
I did Google it, but couldn't find anything conclusive, even on XDA, with quite a lot of people seeing this issue and an equal number not seeing it, so can anyone shed some light on it? Is the upcoming Marshmallow update with its improved power management likely to alleviate it?
Although I like the phone and the performance is very good, I might just return it because of this issue and get a different phone. Prerequisites are stereo speakers and a minimum of 2GB RAM for smooth, stutter-free operation, everything else is not so critical. Any suggestions for alternatives? I paid about £350 for it off Amazon and would like to spend about the same on a possible replacement.
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Do you have a new phone? You sen the old one to RMA ?
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I was running the battery dead out-of-the-box due to Google shovelware. Disabling as many Google apps as possible and using a browser with an ad blocker has me ending the day at 45%. If you have any ad spewing apps, get rid of them too. Buy or find ad-free versions of your apps.

Anyone else's Priv getting too hot?

Just had the Priv for a week.... so far its a great device, but has its issues....
Firstly, the curved screen is not the most practical, specially when grabbing your phone.... second of all, for the first time, its overheating....
No root is horrible too.... hoping that someday soon, the root is coming out....

my priv also sometimes so hot, esp the screen

I had a Priv a while ago and would get super hot when browsing the Web.. I think the back of the phone is pretty thin so maybe that's why but even then.. It gets pretty damn hot
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Mine normally doesn't... or maybe it does but I have the sliding case around it so maybe I don't feel the heat...
However, last Friday, out of the blue a message popped up in notification saying something like "you're wifi is being disabled to prevent the device from overheating" ...I was driving at the time, so obviouslynot doing anything actively on the phone... just had Waze running. Have been an Android user from the beginning ... have had phones with known/documented overheating issues, but never had such a message crop up.
In anycase, I immediately rebooted... when the phone restarted, I lost cellular data... and spent the next 3 hours worried somehow the radio has fried... requested an RMA, put questions on XDA and BlackBerry forums... came close to resetting the phone..until... I went in to Data Usage and realised, Cellular Data had aslo been disabled when the phone overheated!!!
No overheat since...

yeah, she gets damned hot.
doesnt seem to stop it working though

All Blackberry apps updated via Play Store?
Make sure that all Blackberry apps in Play Store are updated. When I first got the phone(end of December) phone was also getting warm-hot. I was in play store, but it didn't offer me any Blackberry apps, but I searched the store for "Blackberry" and it came up with the apps and I saw that they needed to be updated. After that, no more heat, at least not bad and on par with other devices. I don't play games on phones, so won't comment about that

Mine got incredibly hot when I first used it - restoring my accounts, apps, data etc but today is my first day of proper use and it seems just fine. No problems with heat at all.

Priv Battery
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my priv also sometimes so hot, esp the screen
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Have a look at what's chugging away on your device and see what's sucking your battery. It'll be in your battery stats.

I found mine to get very hot and that's even compared to my Moto X Style (which also consistently runs warm) and my Z5 & 6P despite them having an 810 instead the 808. It's disconcerting how warm / hot the device runs and the thin carbon fibre frame only seems to enhance the feeling of it being too warm.
It's making me reconsider holding onto mine tbh.
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I don't know if any of you are on TMO but disabling their crappy My Account app solved my heat issues.
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Phone getting hot easily

As the title says, my phone gets hot really easily with simple usage. Today I was just changing my ring tones and notifications sounds and it became warm (not that hot) where it shouldn't have, with such light usage. And then I played a game for about 10 minutes and the device got hot and was untouchable. The game and UI started to lag too.
This is my replacement phone, the first phone did the same. But I think this one is worse.
During normal usage it does get hot (very uncomfortable), but it won't lag.
My phone is always above 40-42C.
Is it due to my climate?
Or should I get another replacement.
Please help me on this, I can't really figure out if it's the phone or me getting defective devices.

edios123 said:
As the title says, my phone gets hot really easily with simple usage. Today I was just changing my ring tones and notifications sounds and it became warm (not that hot) where it shouldn't have, with such light usage. And then I played a game for about 10 minutes and the device got hot and was untouchable. The game and UI started to lag too.
This is my replacement phone, the first phone did the same. But I think this one is worse.
During normal usage it does get hot (very uncomfortable), but it won't lag.
My phone is always above 40-42C.
Is it due to my climate?
Or should I get another replacement.
Please help me on this, I can't really figure out if it's the phone or me getting defective devices.
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I had the same problem when it was summer where I am. The SD810 is terrible when it comes to heating up, and the lag you experienced is due to the chip throttling back from the heat. Is it hot weather where you are?

Heisenberg said:
I had the same problem when it was summer where I am. The SD810 is terrible when it comes to heating up, and the lag you experienced is due to the chip throttling back from the heat. Is it hot weather where you are?
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The weather is indeed hot nowadays. But the problem is, if the phone heats so much on simple usage, then what is the purpose of owning this smartphone..? :| I'm really disappointed considering I changed my previous device cos of overheating (Note 4).
What's confusing me is, some reviews/reports say this phone is cooler than the S6 /Edge. But my friend has one and it doesn't heat this much at all.
My dad's 6S Plus runs insanely cool (compared to my 6P).
Should I go for another repair/replacement? I've already wasted 1 month waiting for a replacement.
Everything else is amazing on this phone (except the DAC of course) .
Edit: the battery is also disappointing(like 4:30 to 5:00 average). I guess it's due to the phone heating up quickly.

edios123 said:
The weather is indeed hot nowadays. But the problem is, if the phone heats so much on simple usage, then what is the purpose of owning this smartphone..? :| I'm really disappointed considering I changed my previous device cos of overheating (Note 4).
What's confusing me is, some reviews/reports say this phone is cooler than the S6 /Edge. But my friend has one and it doesn't heat this much at all.
My dad's 6S Plus runs insanely cool (compared to my 6P).
Should I go for another repair/replacement? I've already wasted 1 month waiting for a replacement.
Everything else is amazing on this phone (except the DAC of course) .
Edit: the battery is also disappointing(like 4:30 to 5:00 average). I guess it's due to the phone heating up quickly.
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Didn't you research this phone and its chipset before buying? The SD810 is well known for this. I think most reports that say the phone runs cool were written just after release, which was just as the North American winter was taking hold. You could try getting a replacement but I'm fairly confident that this is a problem with the chip.

Heisenberg said:
Didn't you research this phone and its chipset before buying? The SD810 is well known for this. I think most reports that say the phone runs cool were written just after release, which was just as the North American winter was taking hold. You could try getting a replacement but I'm fairly confident that this is a problem with the chip.
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I chose this phone over the Note 5. I heard there's absolutely no heating issues with the Nexus 6P and the 810 is implemented well in this phone.
My MacBook Pro started to heat much more than it did a few months ago too. But I can't confirm it's because of the weather because it might be some new software I installed or anything.
But the thing that bugs me is, even Yureka, a budget phone, which is known as a heater, heats only like my Nexus 6P or maybe sometimes it's even better at handling heat.
My display is very very yellow too.

This phone is literally the hottest phone ever!
Two minutes of web browsing and the upper portion would have already gotten quite warm.
I think it's getting worse lately, maybe because of the aging of the thermal compound.

ALUOp said:
This phone is literally the hottest phone ever!
Two minutes of web browsing and the upper portion would have already gotten quite warm.
I think it's getting worse lately, maybe because of the aging of the thermal compound.
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Agree. I think the aging of the thermal compound is def going to make thermal throttling worse over time. Plus the thermal compound they used is absolute crap. It had a marshmallow like texture. For those able, I'd consider doing the thermal hard mod posted here. Even if instead of the thermal pad you just replace the crap thermal compound with good stuff. The phone is not nearly as difficult to disassemble and some make it out to be.

You've got a Nexus, go ahead and get your root. Custom kernels like EX do pretty well with excess heat management.
EX kicks in an optional hexacore mode just in case your phone gets mad on heat (generally while charging).
Custom kernels are great in that respect.

Still worth in 2017?

I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.

I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I just sold mine on eBay.. I liked the phone allot but it was just too big for me to carry at work. I never had any problems with mine the entire time I had it.
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No problems since launch. There exceptions for some....

Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Yes sir. Nothing had on mine
And you're right about OnePlus...
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I bought the Nexus6P back in December because it was a great open box deal, and I couldn't be happier.
I've never encountered any of the issues you mentioned at all, and I find it to still be super snappy under normal use, plus the battery is great.
I can't comment on the water-resistance because I try not to allow it to get wet at all; that said, I'm sure you can just youtube people stress testing their poor 6p phones.
I will agree with others here though in saying that it is a bit large - I did want to pixel (not the XL) as it's size is much better, but the price was too high.

So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?

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So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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Nexus 6P, hands down. Mine consistently lasts all day (about 18 hours) with moderate to heavy usage (browsing XDA with Tapatalk, social media, etc), takes amazing pictures, and is very fast/responsive.
I have no experience with the OnePlus 3T, but my mom's Galaxy S7 was awful. It had horrible battery life, ugly software, and performance was very janky. The cameras were pretty good, though.
You can't go wrong with a Nexus phone. The amazing developers here on XDA keep them alive long after Google drops support.

Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.

Gino76ph said:
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Even if you're not into rooting, you'll still get OTA updates with the latest security patches/bug fixes months before any other phone. The 6P should be supported up until Android 9.0, so you'd be good for another 14 months or so.
If you do decide to take a walk on the wild side and root after Google drops support, Nexus phones are very easy to unlock, root, and customize.
As for the freezing, I've never experienced this while stock. The only time my device has ever frozen/crashed was due to something stupid I did, like changing the file system, or risky kernel settings.
I don't use Bluetooth, so I can't provide any feedback there, but I can vouch for WiFi being very stable.
The shutdown/battery issues are caused by degraded batteries. There's no avoiding it, batteries are rated for a certain number of charge cycles and wear out over time, but there are things you can do to extend the life of your battery:
1. Don't expose your phone to extreme hot/cold temperatures. Using it in the summer or winter is ok, but don't put it in the freezer to run benchmarks or to keep it cool while installing updates. If you must keep it cool, take it out of its case (if you have one) and place it in front of a fan. I always place my phone in front of a fan when installing a new ROM or anything CPU intensive to keep it cool.
2. Don't use fast charging unless absolutely necessary, such as you're heading out for a hot date in 20 minutes but you only have 15% left. If you're charging your phone overnight, there's no need to use the fast charger. I've been using the 1 amp wall adapter from my Galaxy Nexus to charge my 6P overnight and the battery is just as good as day one with no random shutdowns.
3. Don't play games, install updates, or anything that may cause the phone/battery to heat up while the phone is charging. Browsing the web, listening to music, texting, or other light tasks are fine, but playing Asphalt 8, installing the latest OTA, or whatever while charging will cause your battery to heat up and wear it out faster.
4. Charge the phone while off if possible. The reason for this is when powered on and the battery reaches 100% it stops charging (obviously). When the battery drops to 98% it starts charging again. If you charge overnight with the phone on the 2% drop/recharge will happen multiple times, causing unnecessary charge cycles and wearing out the battery.
5. Try to avoid letting the battery go below 15-20%. Discharging the battery too far too often wears it out faster.
6. If you want to get really anal about this, charge the battery when it reaches 20% and unplug it when it reaches 80%. This counts as only half of a charge cycle, thus extending the life of your battery. There's an app on XDA that stops charging at whatever limit you decide, but I believe it requires root.
I recommend buying your 6P new (if you decide to go with it and if you can find one). When you buy a used phone you have no idea how badly the battery was abused.

Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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I just sold my OnePlus 3T, it was a great phone, the only thing that disappointed me was the camera. If camera was as good as the 6P I would of kept it for another year. It is very poor in low light and bad focus on the simplest shots. I think the OnePlus 5 will be the phone to look to next for a mid priced beast.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's not too old. I have one and it is better than many phones years newer than it imo. I have no lag or stutters and it never heats up or has any problems. I'd definitely recommend this phone any day as it is just so good for its age.

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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My 6P doesn't get hot, even when playing CPU/GPU intensive games like Asphalt 8. The 810 has been tamed on the 6P.

The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...

orky87 said:
The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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Those issues are some most users including myself never have had. Those kind of issues are not device specific either and the battery is actually pretty good for the phones age. The camera is amazing with 4k quality so I don't know what you're smoking and the audio quite actually is pretty decent and doesn't have crackling or tinny sounds. The call quality is actually amazing and very clear even compared to newer phones and my home phone. At times it can be quite but there are mods for that but for general users the audio is good enough. Keep in mind that many issues you may have heard are a small percentage and are usually reports from devices with an old degraded battery and maybe a buggy custom rom. Should I assume you don't have a nexus 6p? Before talking about a phone you don't have try researching about it.

I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.

RasAlGhul said:
I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.

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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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Plus I get to stick with Beans Roms, nothing against other developers as I'm sure they are good too but I've been a user of Beans roms for quite some time. Thanks, I loved my Nexus 6 but since it's only 32 bit it's time is coming to an end.