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Hey guys. So i had a Nexus 5 for about two weeks. i was slightly dissapointed in the camera and screen. although it is built by LG as well, i noticed the quality control may have been a bit more lenient(to cut costs im sure), as there was minor light bleed. i found a mint condition LG G2 on craigslist for $420, so i decided to get it and return the Nexus 5 for a refund. As far as screen, battery and camera are concerned, the G2 is amazing. My problem lies with some of the unresolved issues which i am hoping are software based. I do have the issue where the touchscreen will randomly go crazy with phantom touches (fixed by turning screen off and on again). I've also noticed lag, on the stock launcher as well as apex and nova. the phone was rooted when i got it, so i decided to flash cm10.2, carbon rom, and cleanrom...with all of these roms, i experienced lag (swiping around homescreens/app drawer). i dont benchmark, but i know this phone is just as fast as the Nexus 5, so it shouldnt lag on aosp based roms. im really not trying to bash on the phone because it really is amazing, but i really feel like maybe i made a mistake. do you guys have any ideas what may be causing the lag? i have tried stock based roms as well as aosp based and still experience it.
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Hey guys. So i had a Nexus 5 for about two weeks. i was slightly dissapointed in the camera and screen. although it is built by LG as well, i noticed the quality control may have been a bit more lenient(to cut costs im sure), as there was minor light bleed. i found a mint condition LG G2 on craigslist for $420, so i decided to get it and return the Nexus 5 for a refund. As far as screen, battery and camera are concerned, the G2 is amazing. My problem lies with some of the unresolved issues which i am hoping are software based. I do have the issue where the touchscreen will randomly go crazy with phantom touches (fixed by turning screen off and on again). I've also noticed lag, on the stock launcher as well as apex and nova. the phone was rooted when i got it, so i decided to flash cm10.2, carbon rom, and cleanrom...with all of these roms, i experienced lag (swiping around homescreens/app drawer). i dont benchmark, but i know this phone is just as fast as the Nexus 5, so it shouldnt lag on aosp based roms. im really not trying to bash on the phone because it really is amazing, but i really feel like maybe i made a mistake. do you guys have any ideas what may be causing the lag? i have tried stock based roms as well as aosp based and still experience it.
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Dude stop complaining. These ROMs you speak of that lag, those issue will be resolved over time in the first few builds. Give the devs some time to work out the issues. If you don't like it, don't flash it and get back your Nexus 5 since nothing will satisfy you.
Install AOSP and you'll be fine. Even stock I didn't notice any real noticeable lag.
Hey so about 2 months ago i rooted my device and got the franco kernel with stock rom (got it because i heard it was best for battery)
and im getting freezes that are worst then I've ever had on a plain device i have about 80% space left over all i do is watch youtube videos and once in a while check the web while im pooping or in bed only running twitter widget everyday i use clean master to clean up left over crap i have currents disabled and a lot of other useless junk not on my device but yet im still getting these freezes?
should i remove franco or could it be something else?
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Hey so about 2 months ago i rooted my device and got the franco kernel with stock rom (got it because i heard it was best for battery)
and im getting freezes that are worst then I've ever had on a plain device i have about 80% space left over all i do is watch youtube videos and once in a while check the web while im pooping or in bed only running twitter widget everyday i use clean master to clean up left over crap i have currents disabled and a lot of other useless junk not on my device but yet im still getting these freezes?
should i remove franco or could it be something else?
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Hi, MxZeal...
Well, you've sort of answered your own question really... you've eliminated everything except franco. So it probably is franco. Whilst it is undeniably good for battery life, it also has problems (in my experience)... and is notorious for causing problems with things like YouTube. When it works, it's brilliant... but when it doesn't, it's a damn nuisance!.
Custom ROMs and Kernels are always going to be a bit flaky because the devs. behind them don't have the resources to fully test them in the same way that Google have. And even they screw up from time to time - and they have millions of dollars and a whole army of testers at their disposal !!
The current version of franco is r75, and it hasn't been updated since August, however this post suggests an update might be due sometime soon... but you know what unfounded rumours are like... take 'em with a pinch of salt, until they happen. (I'm still waiting for Key Lime Pie!).
It's also worth bearing in mind that the first gen. Nexus 7 is now nearly 18 months old, which makes it a bit of an antique... and developers like franco are going to be naturally moving their developer skills onto newer and shinier devices.
In the meantime, if you want stability on your Nexus 7, revert back to stock kernel... if only as a matter of elimination. If your problems persist after doing so, then it's clearly something else.
Rgrds,
Ged.
I have posted and used numerous Lp5-5.1 roms with different modifications. After using them for a few months, I have decided to try Kitkat just to refresh my memory. What a pleasant surprise I got: My Z1 turned in a different device, which is faster, lighter, more fluid and virtually bugless. No overheating issues, which exist on 100% of lollipop roms. No memory leaks, no screen problems, no lagging, no freezing, no limited features...
Note that Lollipop has been around for over 6 month and there is still not one stable version. And there won't be one, as each bug fix introduces a new one. I can't blame developers: LP is simply bad in design, it can't be fixed. Art is a layer that burdens the device and is a step backwards. It burdens CPUs, hence you always have overheating and no tinkering with voltage will help. After using a web browser for 10 min (just browsing, no video), cpu temp goes up over 65 and even fixed thermanager, tweaked to not kick in until 60-65, starts to work resulting in flickering. Using camcoder for about 5 minutes results in display, the app and literally the phone shutting down, as CPU temp goes to 85-90. To fix overheating, you have to get rid of art. Art also burdens ram, while it was supposed to do the opposite. What else do you need: your phone overheats, lags, freezes, crashes, apps f/c, ram is under pressure, battery won't properly charge and none of it can be fixed in over 6 months.
Bye bye, LP, for good.
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I have posted and used numerous Lp5-5.1 roms with different modifications. After using them for a few months, I have decided to try Kitkat just to refresh my memory. What a pleasant surprise I got: My Z1 turned in a different device, which is faster, lighter, more fluid and virtually bugless. No overheating issues, which exist on 100% of lollipop roms. No memory leaks, no screen problems, no lagging, no freezing, no limited features...
Note that Lollipop has been around for over 6 month and there is still not one stable version. And there won't be one, as each bug fix introduces a new one. I can't blame developers: LP is simply bad in design, it can't be fixed. Art is a layer that burdens the device and is a step backwards. It burdens CPUs, hence you always have overheating and no tickering with voltage will help. After using a web browser for 10 min (just browsing, no video), cpu temp goes up over 65 and even fixed thermanager, tweaked to not kick in until 60-65, starts to work resulting in flickering. Camcoder results in display, the app and literally the phone shutting down, as CPU temp goes to 85-90. To fix overheating, you have to get rid of art. Art also burdens ram, while it was supposed to do the opposite. What else do you need: your phone overheats, lags, freezes, crashes, apps f/c, ram is under pressure, battery won't properly charge and none of it can be fixed in over 6 months.
Bye bye, LP, for good.
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Let's hope, that these bugs also exist on nexus devices and are not device specific, so that google fixes them in Android M.
Could you tell us which kitkat bulid you are actually using?
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mischa_martin
Slimkat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/rom-slimkat-final-edition-built-source-t3045435
I keep reading about these issues plaguing a lot of devices, but I simply can't share the same experiences. And believe me, I'm a power user... I'd notice.
I listen to music while downloading zips, while browsing the forums and my device stays at a comfortable temperature. And it's summer here... 30 Celsius every day at least.
Then, the touch screen freezes is something I know nothing about. Only had it once, on build 5.4.4. of RR.
The memory leak and screen light flickering is something I encounter only on stock...
I don't know what it is about my device, but I'm nothing but thrilled with lollipop.
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zgomot said:
I keep reading about these issues plaguing a lot of devices, but I simply can't share the same experiences. And believe me, I'm a power user... I'd notice.
I listen to music while downloading zips, while browsing the forums and my device status at a comfortable temperature. And it's summer here... 30 Celsius every day at least.
Then, the touch screen freezes is something I know nothing about. Only had it once, on build 5.4.4. of RR.
The memory leak and screen light flickering is something I encounter only on stock...
I don't know what it is about my device, but I'm nothing but thrilled with lollipop.
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The stock lollipop roms have driven me to root and install a custom 4.4.4 rom after sticking with stock for the first 18 months or so. Rubbish battery life, heat, redraws in action launcher. Hopefully a good lollipop will appear, and I might flash that through recovery once it's proven. Or maybe with 5.1. But returning to 4.4.4 with customisation is like night and day. Fast, cool, no redraws. Keeping a watch on 5.x
I agree all the custom 5.0.x and 5.1.1 ROMs have countless issues and bugs, heating, poor RAM management but I'd like to appreciate Sony's work with Lollipop. Sony's stock Lollipop is pretty good even for power usage. Though KitKat was definitely one of the better versions of Android. At least our stock Lollipop isn't that bad. As for me I'm going to stick to a rooted stock Lollipop until a stable AOSP ROM comes out, which will take some time, considering KitKat also took ages to fix.
I would like to see BeanStalk with shields up, like Dirty Unicorns and Slimkat :angel: Please! Slimkat is good but Beanstalk has more features.
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I would like to see BeanStalk with shields up, like Dirty Unicorns and Slimkat :angel: Please! Slimkat is good but Beanstalk has more features.
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Edit: Thanks for new Slimkat 10 build, I am still hoping for secured Beanstalk, no chance? Best Regards
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So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )
I think you got an s8 by mistake???? i have an s8 and that ishh stutters like a mofooo!???
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Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!
jvidia said:
Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!
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"Wtf" you are surprised the s8 stutters? ???? come on, it's Samsung we should know this by now
@OP. Are you seeing this through something like gpu rendering?
I would recommend clearing your caches, dalvik and cache. That was causing textra to constantly crash for me on this phone and my z play. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset, if not, get a replacement as you likely have a bad unit. I've had no lags or stutters even while in power saving mode..
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So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )
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I have it too and it is ****ing annoying as all hell. Damn near chucked my phone out the window.
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... My Nexus 5 runs way smoothe...
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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
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It has been commented many times that the jelly effect is only seen by some people and not others. Luckily for me I've not one of those unfortunates. As for micro stutters I've no idea what your talking about as I've not seen that either.
I did use my Nexus 5 to get an old app off it and that is where I was really shocked at how slow the N5 was compared to my OP5. Like so much of tech a good amount of what a person feels about a device is personal perception. You seem to be sensitive to things other are not as overall the reviewers and most of the owners talk glowingly about the lack of issues as you describe especially compared to the big flag ships such as the Galaxy S8, 8+ and Note 8 that costs significantly more. I've seen YouTube videos of side by side speed and battery tests with these top brands and the OP5 smokes them.
I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
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I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
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you are the first what I see that he wrote such a negative experience for the Oneplus 5. According to me, this is the racket even the stock visual style. If you find a suitable combination of ROM, kernel, then the OP5 is "Stalin organ"
I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
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Refer to my first post in this thread to see what I'm running.
I also tried No Limits and it was pretty snappy, however it didn't offer as many features as the ROM I am currently on, and that's been the case for anything OOS-based for me.
Not bashing OOS at all, I just find other options available to better suit my needs, feature wise!
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Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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I'm using Blu Spark. It does definitely improve performance over the stock kernel. I was hoping to get a little more of a boost but Blu Spark may already provide the best performance I'm going to get without using crazy kernel settings that will eventually burn out the phone. That's one of the secrets to the smooth performance on the Pixel that gets ignored --the CPU is maxed out constantly which provides super smooth performance but also makes the phone run very hot even if you're only looking at emails . And there's nothing you can do about it. There are no alternative governors you can use or settings you can tweak--the phone is intentionally designed so the hardware will burn out.
rickysidhu_ said:
Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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I'm going to look into Pure Fusion. Thanks for the suggestion. I know there's no support for custom ROMs so it's good to hear Blu Spark works well with that one.
Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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That's the conclusion I'm starting to reach. Thanks for the suggestion.
rickysidhu_ said:
Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
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Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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That's very unusual.
Sorry you couldn't get to work because it is indeed a great ROM
I think you have received a defective unit ??! Please contact the customer service and get it replaced maybe ? This phone is extremely fast, I meant the performance is so blazing awesome !
Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
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If you want best performance FreedomOS is the top, but if you want best performance+customization so PureFusion is the top of the top imho
My stock +5 runs smoother than my rooted 6P by a mile.
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Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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Would that have any effect on the smoothness of the scrolling on the OP5?