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One plus one 4k on CM, why can't we?

So the one plus phone can shoot 4k on cm, what is the issue why we cant?

natious said:
So the one plus phone can shoot 4k on cm, what is the issue why we cant?
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It's called a Camera driver.
I installed CameraNext by CM on my Note 3 to confirm this.

Our sensor and hardware is more than capable thought, can't they just force the resolution?

natious said:
Our sensor and hardware is more than capable thought, can't they just force the resolution?
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Tell them to fix the video driver that causes the random reboots. Due to the hlte unification, they didn't bother.
The Note 3 isn't progressing quick at all in the CM/AOSP aspect, as people tend to buy the Note 3 for the Pen features.
The camera driver is most likely closed source and CM had to create one for the device - as usual.

The note uses the sony sensor, so surely they can find proper drivers, I guess its harder than it sounds.

nicholaschum said:
Tell them to fix the video driver that causes the random reboots. Due to the hlte unification, they didn't bother.
The Note 3 isn't progressing quick at all in the CM/AOSP aspect, as people tend to buy the Note 3 for the Pen features.
The camera driver is most likely closed source and CM had to create one for the device - as usual.
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So the random reboot problem on every single AOSP/CM ROM is up to missing proper video drivers? That explains a lot...
Yeah, people buy the Note III for the S-Pen features. Was one of the reasons I got it. But I remember when I had the Note II even on CM/AOSP you could have almost every S-Pen Feature that came with TW. Either by integrated ROM support or by apps like GMD S-Pen Control, CM Note Buddy S-Pen helper, Papyrus etc. Once I installed Paranoid Android on my Note II I never used a TW ROM again. It worked without any problem and I don't remember random reboots. The development on the Note II was awesome despite it had the Exynos processor with lacking drivers and dev support. I expected the Note III to have a better or at least similar development community since it has a Qualcomm processor. But what I see is millions of TW ROMs that are all basically the same. Kernel development is awesome!

Lollipop is the only reason

I was wondering How many people are buying nexus 6 because of lollipop? I for one am.
Imagine for a moment if Note 4 also came with pure lollipop with no crappy touchwiz which would you buy? I didn't think i would say this but i would buy note 4 and I hate samsung because of plastic and touchwiz.
Galaxy Note 4 hardware wise is far superior in almost every dept, better camera, LED notification, S Pen, better and brighter screen, better design, finger print, sd card.
Speakers would definetly go to Nexus 6 and bigger screen butnot better screen.
Biggest let down on note 4 TOUCHWIZ which is a complete put off.
I've been waiting for nexus 6 for a little while now and have bought Note 4 recently which actually is better then i expected and does look premium and if i was to remove the dreaded TOUCHWIZ it's a very appealing phone. Now i'm considering waiting for custom roms rather then buy nexus 6!!! Or can someone convince me otherwise, perhaps i've missed some nexus pro's.

Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.

I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.

Jfree3000 said:
Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.
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hmm..that's a good point But surely lollipop would be fine.

I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.

tsy87 said:
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.

I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.

fleadog99 said:
I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.
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Fair point, LG G3 was one of the most fustrating phones i've had in recent years. Never say never but i won't be buying LG for sometime until the get rid of the ui. Smart move passing it on to your wife.:fingers-crossed:

riz157 said:
The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.
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interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.

gtg465x said:
I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.
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I know how you feel and i couldnt agree more TW is ugly and slooooww.

tsy87 said:
interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.
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Having owned iphone 6 plus inmho the camera on Note 4 is superior in most conditions.

I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring

If you're on VZW there is a Dev edition note 4. I'm sure there will be AOSP Roms available for it soon.

tsy87 said:
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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Yes got to give the larger screen and better speakers to Nexus, however most reviewers are saying note 4 screen is sharper and brighter.

Lollipop is definitely the only reason not the phone hardware itself.
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journeyman73 said:
I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring
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I hear you man, i think samsung need to otherwise they risk losing more customers.

Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.

I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.

Joshnor713 said:
I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.
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The screen on the note 4 is in another dimension. The best display ever seen on a phone by far.
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Bruce lee roy said:
Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.
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I was thinking the same thing.
I like some features of TW. But it is overbearing and slows down the device. I was really torn between the two phones. I have always liked the bigger phones. When I heard the new Nexus device was going to be a phablet I was already sold. Love the support the nexus devices get from devs. That's what makes it worth it for me.
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Camera 2 API

Hello,
did Samsung add Camera 2 API to the Note 4 firmware?
This is the only one thing stops me from buying it.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Hello,
did Samsung add Camera 2 API to the Note 4 firmware?
This is the only one thing stops me from buying it.
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maybe that's what this post is about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60403114&postcount=2861

Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?
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No

Thx, then bye bye Samsung.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?
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Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Thx, then bye bye Samsung.
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hi,
Something interesting what i read today, May something to take note of?
is that the just announced LG G4 will support DSLR type features and RAW capabilities and o yeah removable battery .. plus Fm radio? Specs overall seems promising? Interesting and i will watch the LGG 4 reviews closely
Good luck

LG 4 is hmmm this is not THE Note
Note 4 is still superb but camera lacks API 2.0 it seems. However when we would compare camera GUI to the LG cam GUI I would choose Samsung over LG anyway.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
LG 4 is hmmm this is not THE Note
Note 4 is still superb but camera lacks API 2.0 it seems. However when we would compare camera GUI to the LG cam GUI I would choose Samsung over LG anyway.
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hi ,
yes, i have a similar viewpoint ( i have Note 2 ,Note 3 and Note 4 and Note 8.0 )
No removable battery , no sd slots ,....no camera 2api ( raw capablities ) ...is the Note 5 in line for these "improvements"
If so, i feel i must have alternative choice ,so for me LG is staking a strong claim ?
Its only the Spen functions ,that will keep me back .
Anycase when Samsung did not implement Camera 2 api ,i gave up hope and instead upgraded my old bridge camera to a Nikon DSLR ..(so i am happy ).
good luck

I think I will not like Note 5 so much due to its build. I think its gonna be like S6, very glassy fingerprint like material. I had S6 in my hands and I was disappointed how uncomfortable it lied in my hand.
But we will see.
LG G4 if becomes a superb phone I may give it a chance but it may end like One Plus One's camera - hugely hyped, final effect is poorer than skeptics thought.
I still sit with SGS II, there is always something I do not accept - in S6 I do not like materials, in S5 no camera stabilization.
Note 4 I love but no API 2.0.
Lg G3 camera is quite low (I mean GUI and possibilities).

note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.

Why the exynos? Won't Qualcomm ones have it to?

if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.

willcor said:
hi,
Something interesting what i read today, May something to take note of?
is that the just announced LG G4 will support DSLR type features and RAW capabilities and o yeah removable battery .. plus Fm radio? Specs overall seems promising? Interesting and i will watch the LGG 4 reviews closely
Good luck
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I like the look of the G4,however if like the G3 and G2 it has a locked bootloader which will take ages to get an unlock fix for, then forget it.

Batfink33 said:
I like the look of the G4,however if like the G3 and G2 it has a locked bootloader which will take ages to get an unlock fix for, then forget it.
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hi ,
o yes, i agree 100% with your view !!!
good luck

zurkx said:
note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.
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What is your source of information? I'd like to know if when such update would come. Soon it will be near one year since Note 4 release....

zurkx said:
if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.
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yeah it will be included in the same update that makes the exynos full 64bit on Lollipop :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::highfive::highfive:

zurkx said:
note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.
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if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.
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Any source on this?

marleyb said:
yeah it will be included in the same update that makes the exynos full 64bit on Lollipop :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::highfive::highfive:
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no thats still under debate. work has not even started on that yet.

So to get final conclusion it is highly unlikely Note 4 would get Camera 2 API implementation.... what a shame.
I say this because when you think it is obvious if Samsung wanted it to be, they would add it in LP release together with x64 CPU support.

Can you guys help us with this PETITION for RAW Support??? Please, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/samsung-raw-support-t3097151

Exynos VS Snapdragon

Is true you have limitations with Exynos that you don't have with Snapdragon regarding editing source code?
Basically i need to buy a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and i want to know which version has less limits...

Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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simranjit3001 said:
Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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So the Exynos model can't have AOSP ROMs and Snapdragon one yes. For me is a big deal have this option on my phone.
I have a final fight in mind:
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge vs Nexus 6P...

Be4stElectrjc said:
So the Exynos model can't have AOSP ROMs and Snapdragon one yes. For me is a big deal have this option on my phone.
I have a final fight in mind:
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge vs Nexus 6P...
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Don't expect AOSP rom on US Snapdragon model since bootloader is still locked which mean no custom rom at all.
And AOSP rom is not impossible on exynos but it tend to be too buggy to be used as daily driver. So touchwiz is still better than aosp most of the time on exynos.
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NonXtreme said:
Don't expect AOSP rom on US Snapdragon model since bootloader is still locked which mean no custom rom at all.
And AOSP rom is not impossible on exynos but it tend to be too buggy to be used as daily driver. So touchwiz is still better than aosp most of the time on exynos.
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SM-G935F VS Nexus 6P then. I prefer Nexus 6P since all in it is from google.

simranjit3001 said:
Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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You can install strongly debloated TouchWiz and it has no Samsung Apps and only some Google Apps that are required for system to run properly. I know that AOSP is for someone very important but why do you buy Samsung if you are going to use AOSP? Half of the gadgets or more are useless with AOSP. I must add that Touchwiz is running properly fast on S7 and I mean Contacts, Dialer, Settings because I change immidiately to Nova Launcher.
Buy Exynos. It is not locked, change ROM to modified Touchwiz, change launcher and you are going to be happy as a child

When using Samsung's Goodlock in combination with 3rd party 'stock-android' launcher (e.g. Nova or APEX) you're really close to AOSP, just missing some features but many other useful Touchwiz features will be held!
More info on Goodlock:
https://news.samsung.com/global/good-lock-customize-the-way-you-use-your-galaxy-smartphone
Download link:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/good-lock/good-lock-24-0-11-release/good-lock-24-0-11-android-apk-download/

With the S7/S7E it's no secret that Samsung's own Exynos SOC is the more optimised and stable chipset. You get better raw performance on the Snapdragon, primarily due to the superior GPU, but you pay for that with heat and inferior battery life. Also, for apps that are optimised for multi-core SOCs, the Exynos is superior due to having double the amount. It's for this reason applications open faster for example.
The downside is that Exynos is very much close source, so stable AOSP/CM roms are very difficult to make. However, there are two reasons why this shouldn't lead you to avoid this particular SOC. Firstly, the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader so, as things stand, you couldn't flash a non-signed 100% stock rom anyway. And that isn't likely to change. And secondly, why pay a premium for a device like this then put a third party vanilla rom on it that will take away many of the features that made the device premium in the first place. One example, you would only need compare camera speed and quality between CM and stock on an S7/S7E to see what I mean. I know from experience with Samsung phone in the past that there will be a world of difference.

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With the S7/S7E it's no secret that Samsung's own Exynos SOC is the more optimised and stable chipset. You get better raw performance on the Snapdragon, primarily due to the superior GPU, but you pay for that with heat and inferior battery life. Also, for apps that are optimised for multi-core SOCs, the Exynos is superior due to having double the amount. It's for this reason applications open faster for example.
The downside is that Exynos is very much close source, so stable AOSP/CM roms are very difficult to make. However, there are two reasons why this shouldn't lead you to avoid this particular SOC. Firstly, the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader so, as things stand, you couldn't flash a non-signed 100% stock rom anyway. And that isn't likely to change. And secondly, why pay a premium for a device like this then put a third party vanilla rom on it that will take away many of the features that made the device premium in the first place. One example, you would only need compare camera speed and quality between CM and stock on an S7/S7E to see what I mean. I know from experience with Samsung phone in the past that there will be a world of difference.
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Thanks, things are more clear now. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge VS Nexus 6P now. Afaik Nexus 6P it is thinked entirely by google and for this reason it is my decision for the moment. But if the things you said are valid even for the Snapdragon in the Nexus, is better to take the Galaxy...

I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall

guaneet said:
I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall
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My personal preference is Nexus 6P, even if One Plus 3 is newer and better

Be4stElectrjc said:
My personal preference is Nexus 6P, even if One Plus 3 is newer and better
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Seems to me that you want the nexus 6p already? If you feel it's best for you don't consider the s7 edge nothing we tell you will really help you...
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simranjit3001 said:
Seems to me that you want the nexus 6p already? If you feel it's best for you don't consider the s7 edge nothing we tell you will really help you...
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Yes, is true, i prefer it. But only if it has less limits of S7 Edge.

Be4stElectrjc said:
Yes, is true, i prefer it. But only if it has less limits of S7 Edge.
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Well the s7edge has more other features and better specs and camera and best screen...
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simranjit3001 said:
Well the s7edge has more other features and better specs and camera and best screen...
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S7 Edge Hardware > Nexus 6p Hardware
Hope Nexus 6P Software > Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge software in terms o root, roms etc.

guaneet said:
I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall
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The OnePlus 3 is a fantastic phone, if you're buying on a budget. As a direct competitor to the S7 Edge in particular if money is not a factor, it falls short for me. It has a 1080p screen for example, something that was in flagships 3 years ago. 4k on mobile devices of this size is OTT for me, but 2k is perfect. I have put my S7 Edge and Note 3 (1080p like the OnePlus 3) together and there is a discernible difference in terms of visual pixels. I'm surprised they have used old technology in this respect. Also the camera falls well short of the quality on the S7.

Don't have money problems in this period.

Camera mod HW & SW

Hi everyone. I'm moving from Note 3 to Note 4, so please forgive my out of date questions.
I understand you can replace the Note 4 camera with S6 and maybe later cameras. What is the best that I can put into the Note 4?
Also I see there are bandwidth hacks to enhance the standard camera on video. Is this something done when updating drivers or whatever to make new camera work?
An update and direction would be appreciated

Anyone?
Even if you don't know much, its probably more than me and I'd benefit from whatever you do know.

PurpleMelbourne said:
Anyone?
Even if you don't know much, its probably more than me and I'd benefit from whatever you do know.
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There is someone who tried this, but the outcome was never posted - https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/note4-s6-camera-upgrade-t3116575/page5
I was asking the other day about the possibility of doing this swap/upgrade and the best developer fro the Exynos N4 said it's a ****ty thing to do.
But maybe the internet with it's glory may prove something else, who knows...

Aah OK.
So I suppose you would need the matching device driver to the physical camera. Presumably that device driver lives inside the Kernel.
So if you have for example a Note 7 camera, then in the Kernel of your phone will need to have the device driver from the Note 7 so the camera software knows how to control that camera.
You may also have bandwidth limitations talking to that camera, which is where increasing the bandwidth would come into play.
So it probably needs a Kernel developer to work with this mod. Either try it out themselves or work in with someone else who tries the camera mod.
Any Note 4 Kernel developers reading?
Given the Note 4 is the last removable battery phone, its probably worth the effort to make this work.