Camera 2 API - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
did Samsung add Camera 2 API to the Note 4 firmware?
This is the only one thing stops me from buying it.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Hello,
did Samsung add Camera 2 API to the Note 4 firmware?
This is the only one thing stops me from buying it.
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maybe that's what this post is about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60403114&postcount=2861

Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?
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No

Thx, then bye bye Samsung.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Not really. Does camera firmware allow to give RAW image instead of JPEG?
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Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Thx, then bye bye Samsung.
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hi,
Something interesting what i read today, May something to take note of?
is that the just announced LG G4 will support DSLR type features and RAW capabilities and o yeah removable battery .. plus Fm radio? Specs overall seems promising? Interesting and i will watch the LGG 4 reviews closely
Good luck

LG 4 is hmmm this is not THE Note
Note 4 is still superb but camera lacks API 2.0 it seems. However when we would compare camera GUI to the LG cam GUI I would choose Samsung over LG anyway.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
LG 4 is hmmm this is not THE Note
Note 4 is still superb but camera lacks API 2.0 it seems. However when we would compare camera GUI to the LG cam GUI I would choose Samsung over LG anyway.
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hi ,
yes, i have a similar viewpoint ( i have Note 2 ,Note 3 and Note 4 and Note 8.0 )
No removable battery , no sd slots ,....no camera 2api ( raw capablities ) ...is the Note 5 in line for these "improvements"
If so, i feel i must have alternative choice ,so for me LG is staking a strong claim ?
Its only the Spen functions ,that will keep me back .
Anycase when Samsung did not implement Camera 2 api ,i gave up hope and instead upgraded my old bridge camera to a Nikon DSLR ..(so i am happy ).
good luck

I think I will not like Note 5 so much due to its build. I think its gonna be like S6, very glassy fingerprint like material. I had S6 in my hands and I was disappointed how uncomfortable it lied in my hand.
But we will see.
LG G4 if becomes a superb phone I may give it a chance but it may end like One Plus One's camera - hugely hyped, final effect is poorer than skeptics thought.
I still sit with SGS II, there is always something I do not accept - in S6 I do not like materials, in S5 no camera stabilization.
Note 4 I love but no API 2.0.
Lg G3 camera is quite low (I mean GUI and possibilities).

note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.

Why the exynos? Won't Qualcomm ones have it to?

if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.

willcor said:
hi,
Something interesting what i read today, May something to take note of?
is that the just announced LG G4 will support DSLR type features and RAW capabilities and o yeah removable battery .. plus Fm radio? Specs overall seems promising? Interesting and i will watch the LGG 4 reviews closely
Good luck
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I like the look of the G4,however if like the G3 and G2 it has a locked bootloader which will take ages to get an unlock fix for, then forget it.

Batfink33 said:
I like the look of the G4,however if like the G3 and G2 it has a locked bootloader which will take ages to get an unlock fix for, then forget it.
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hi ,
o yes, i agree 100% with your view !!!
good luck

zurkx said:
note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.
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What is your source of information? I'd like to know if when such update would come. Soon it will be near one year since Note 4 release....

zurkx said:
if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.
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yeah it will be included in the same update that makes the exynos full 64bit on Lollipop :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::highfive::highfive:

zurkx said:
note 4 is getting camera api so if thats holding you back you should not wait. the SD note 4 is having problems with camera api with long delays when taking pictures which is why it is not released. get an exy note 4 and camera api 2.0 will come in a future update.
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zurkx said:
if they cant fix the bug only the exys will get it.
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Any source on this?

marleyb said:
yeah it will be included in the same update that makes the exynos full 64bit on Lollipop :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::highfive::highfive:
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no thats still under debate. work has not even started on that yet.

So to get final conclusion it is highly unlikely Note 4 would get Camera 2 API implementation.... what a shame.
I say this because when you think it is obvious if Samsung wanted it to be, they would add it in LP release together with x64 CPU support.

Can you guys help us with this PETITION for RAW Support??? Please, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/samsung-raw-support-t3097151

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change camera

Hello
I have a question, if you put the camera the LG Optimus g the Nexus 4 will work?
It had better clarity?
thanks
liviugreuu said:
Hello
I have a question, if you put the camera the LG Optimus g the Nexus 4 will work?
It had better clarity?
thanks
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i dont think so because; 1- the shape of the cam maybe different in size 2- i think any company will make every piece of your device to be compatible with the other pieces ...
It would be awsome to have that camera in our nexus 4, I think stock android camera isn't good enough
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meedoo1997 said:
i dont think so because; 1- the shape of the cam maybe different in size 2- i think any company will make every piece of your device to be compatible with the other pieces ...
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http://www.ebay.es/itm/Camara-Camer...8?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item2329a8027a
After I see is identical to the Nexus 4. I asked to tell me what size business has, tomorrow I will have details.
If it is compatible, I don't think it's even worth the hassle to swap them. :\
Not a point in this. Even if you got them to fit then the software wouldn't be able to decode the sensor. Unless you swapped the drivers out.
Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
Camera FV-5 is a very good camera. Its on the play store they have a trial, the camera cost 2 dollars I think. It has worked very well for me tons of features quality is excellent.

Lollipop is the only reason

I was wondering How many people are buying nexus 6 because of lollipop? I for one am.
Imagine for a moment if Note 4 also came with pure lollipop with no crappy touchwiz which would you buy? I didn't think i would say this but i would buy note 4 and I hate samsung because of plastic and touchwiz.
Galaxy Note 4 hardware wise is far superior in almost every dept, better camera, LED notification, S Pen, better and brighter screen, better design, finger print, sd card.
Speakers would definetly go to Nexus 6 and bigger screen butnot better screen.
Biggest let down on note 4 TOUCHWIZ which is a complete put off.
I've been waiting for nexus 6 for a little while now and have bought Note 4 recently which actually is better then i expected and does look premium and if i was to remove the dreaded TOUCHWIZ it's a very appealing phone. Now i'm considering waiting for custom roms rather then buy nexus 6!!! Or can someone convince me otherwise, perhaps i've missed some nexus pro's.
Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
Jfree3000 said:
Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.
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hmm..that's a good point But surely lollipop would be fine.
I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.
tsy87 said:
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.
I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.
fleadog99 said:
I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.
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Fair point, LG G3 was one of the most fustrating phones i've had in recent years. Never say never but i won't be buying LG for sometime until the get rid of the ui. Smart move passing it on to your wife.:fingers-crossed:
riz157 said:
The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.
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interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.
gtg465x said:
I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.
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I know how you feel and i couldnt agree more TW is ugly and slooooww.
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interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.
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Having owned iphone 6 plus inmho the camera on Note 4 is superior in most conditions.
I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring
If you're on VZW there is a Dev edition note 4. I'm sure there will be AOSP Roms available for it soon.
tsy87 said:
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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Yes got to give the larger screen and better speakers to Nexus, however most reviewers are saying note 4 screen is sharper and brighter.
Lollipop is definitely the only reason not the phone hardware itself.
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journeyman73 said:
I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring
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I hear you man, i think samsung need to otherwise they risk losing more customers.
Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.
I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.
Joshnor713 said:
I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.
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The screen on the note 4 is in another dimension. The best display ever seen on a phone by far.
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Bruce lee roy said:
Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.
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I was thinking the same thing.
I like some features of TW. But it is overbearing and slows down the device. I was really torn between the two phones. I have always liked the bigger phones. When I heard the new Nexus device was going to be a phablet I was already sold. Love the support the nexus devices get from devs. That's what makes it worth it for me.
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Just bought a SM-N910c, now what?

Someone just made me an offer I couldn't refuse on a pre-owned N910c.
Right now, I have a rooted Note 3 running Alliance ROM & like it.
The main thing I like about my Note 3 is the camera/video recording. I know the Note 4 offers a better camera, but will I lose any of the features that I have currently have with mine?
Marshmallow did arrive for the Note 4, didn't it?
Also, I know the Note 4 has known issues, but was that mainly the U.S. variants?
Thanks in advance for the help.
You should be happy that you have the N910C variant of the Note 4 rather than the N910F. As the N910F had a problem with overheating pretty easily due to the fact that it ran on the Snapdragon 805 SOC, which like with all Snapdragon SOCs have a tendency to run full throttle when doing anything. With regards to the camera quality of the N910C. I can honestly say it's probably the best camera sensor I have used in a mobile device. The 16MP ISOCELL sensor takes great shots and the video is pretty good. Just be sure to turn off HDR when filming on the N910C as HDR causes the video to be a bit shaky at times.
Marshmallow is available for all Note 4 variants however some carrier branded models still haven't received them yet.
Does the video portion still have slo-mo recording/playback & panorama for the camera?
Got the phone today. After connecting it to wi-fi, it immediately upgraded to 6.0.1.
If I rooted this to CM13, will I lose any functions, especially the camera or video?
No, you shouldn't But honestly I'd advise against installing a custom ROM and rooting your device unless you really have to. As if you aren't familiar with the process you could disable certain features of your device.
It doesn't appear to have the same camera modes as my Note 3.
JGKC9AYC said:
It doesn't appear to have the same camera modes as my Note 3.
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The camera UI has been altered slight from the previous releases from Samsung.
DarkGuyver said:
The camera UI has been altered slight from the previous releases from Samsung.
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I take it that's something I have no control over?
JGKC9AYC said:
I take it that's something I have no control over?
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Yep, Samsung has control over that part!
DarkGuyver said:
No, you shouldn't But honestly I'd advise against installing a custom ROM and rooting your device unless you really have to. As if you aren't familiar with the process you could disable certain features of your device.
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I'm familiar with rooting & installing custom ROMs.
Since this is the international version, it doesn't have the bloatware of those from U.S. carriers but it does have some I assume.
I'd like to experience the "true android experience", but don't want to lose any of the functionality of the phone.

Note 4x (SD625) with 3 different back Cams ?

now i have 3x Note 4x with SD625 and all have an different Back-Sensor
Samsung Sensor, ofilm_s5k3l8 (black, 3/32GB)
Sony Sensor, ofilm_imx258 (grey, 3/32GB)
Omnitech Sensor, qtech_ov13855 (grey, 3/32GB)
has anyone here an black note 4x with sony sensor ?
greets, Peter
I have note 4x black with sony sensor, but it's 3/16GB
Mine is black whit omnivision sadly.
Colour doesnt matter.
how to check ????
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I have black 3/32gb with sony back sensor
Okay, so which sensor capture pictures better or just the same?!
Tks
jack_hunter97 said:
Okay, so which sensor capture pictures better or just the same?!
Tks
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I've heard it's sony then samsung and the most crappiest is omnivision which I have. I don't have a keen eye on differentiating good from bad photos. I'm a point and shoot person and don't care much about quality. It's all the same to me. Regardless of the camera brand, this phone is dirt cheap anyway so why bother.
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Im currently searching for sony sensor part on internet, then im going to buy it and try to replace my omnivision with sony, its easy fix.. much harder is to find camera module on internet... can you please look, and if u find pm me with link?
Strmy said:
Im currently searching for sony sensor part on internet, then im going to buy it and try to replace my omnivision with sony, its easy fix.. much harder is to find camera module on internet... can you please look, and if u find pm me with link?
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really good idea!
I found only this link, but maybe the seller only send more then 10 pieces
https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/prod...rect-sale-imx258-sony-camera_60588570716.html
or this:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Direct-Factory-Price-MIPI-Interface-camera_60637711362.html
I open the 4x, its not a big story.
Greets, Peter
i suggest EVERYONE to not buy this phone at all..all you will get it now is (Omnitech Sensor, qtech_ov13855)
because they start this model this year with sony sensor...after that they replaced with Samsung sensor and now new releases all them with Omnitech Sensor
so..
if your lucky ..you will get as same as old Redmi note 4 which Samsung
or for sure Omnitech Sensor, qtech_ov13855
and totally forget about Sony ....cuz they are GONE...
who bought it from march to may got sony sensor
pokee2000 said:
i suggest EVERYONE to not buy this phone at all..all you will get it now is (Omnitech Sensor, qtech_ov13855)
because they start this model this year with sony sensor...after that they replaced with Samsung sensor and now new releases all them with Omnitech Sensor
so..
if your lucky ..you will get as same as old Redmi note 4 which Samsung
or for sure Omnitech Sensor, qtech_ov13855
and totally forget about Sony ....cuz they are GONE...
who bought it from march to may got sony sensor
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global you can not say phones with sony is gone, one other user here in xda buy the phone this month and get an sony sensor.
It's just a game
greets, Peter
greddy said:
global you can not say phones with sony is gone, one other user here in xda buy the phone this month and get an sony sensor.
It's just a game
greets, Peter
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i consider himself super lucky....but before that we should ask ourself...why we will enter a gambling thing if what we targeted is 1 to 3
you cant open the box and check before you buy ...that's normal
there is alot of phones in the market better than this...and adding between 20-50 $ to another is not that much to get better ...
yes i agree if you get sony ...go for it.....but now ...its just gambling and cheep move from xiaomi...
God know what else that still not discovered
pokee2000 said:
i consider himself super lucky....but before that we should ask ourself...why we will enter a gambling thing if what we targeted is 1 to 3
you cant open the box and check before you buy ...that's normal
there is alot of phones in the market better than this...and adding between 20-50 $ to another is not that much to get better ...
yes i agree if you get sony ...go for it.....but now ...its just gambling and cheep move from xiaomi...
God know what else that still not discovered
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"alot" phones for about 150 euro better then the Note 4x with 4100mAh battery ?
With this quality and an official Lineage ? Which one ?
Greets, Peter
greddy said:
"alot" phones for about 150 euro better then the Note 4x with 4100mAh battery ?
With this quality and an official Lineage ? Which one ?
Greets, Peter
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Add 50 Euro and get lenovo P2 (Same SD with Super Almond screen and 51000 mAh )
if its about the camera check honor 8 lite ...:good::good:
pokee2000 said:
Add 50 Euro and get lenovo P2 (Same SD with Super Almond screen and 51000 mAh )
if its about the camera check honor 8 lite ...:good::good:
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i know the P2 (i also play with it!) ... **** Rom Support and the feeling in the hand is also not so nice as 4x, ... and not 150 Euro.
For more money i can get always better phones ... but for 150 the 4x is the best!
Big words with "alot" better phones ...
greets, Peter
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i know the P2 (i also play with it!) ... **** Rom Support and the feeling in the hand is also not so nice as 4x, ... and not 150 Euro.
For more money i can get always better phones ... but for 150 the 4x is the best!
Big words with "alot" better phones ...
greets, Peter
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As your here im expecting you like Rom and customs....with 3 different type of sensor ...do you believe that there is a Rom will works fine regarding camera with all these differences ?
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As your here im expecting you like Rom and customs....with 3 different type of sensor ...do you believe that there is a Rom will works fine regarding camera with all these differences ?
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Yes, like a good Rom for daily use, the official Lineage works with all 3 cams ... i test it, i have all Note 4x with all 3 cams here.
greets, Peter
I've had 15 redmi note 4 or 4x passing in my office (for friends or colleagues), all of them with the Samsung sensor.
Production months from the beginning till August.
Can someday tell me as how to check the camera sensors OEM? Tried AIDA64 app, it doesn't fetch the camera sensors OEM details..

Camera mod HW & SW

Hi everyone. I'm moving from Note 3 to Note 4, so please forgive my out of date questions.
I understand you can replace the Note 4 camera with S6 and maybe later cameras. What is the best that I can put into the Note 4?
Also I see there are bandwidth hacks to enhance the standard camera on video. Is this something done when updating drivers or whatever to make new camera work?
An update and direction would be appreciated
Anyone?
Even if you don't know much, its probably more than me and I'd benefit from whatever you do know.
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Anyone?
Even if you don't know much, its probably more than me and I'd benefit from whatever you do know.
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There is someone who tried this, but the outcome was never posted - https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/note4-s6-camera-upgrade-t3116575/page5
I was asking the other day about the possibility of doing this swap/upgrade and the best developer fro the Exynos N4 said it's a ****ty thing to do.
But maybe the internet with it's glory may prove something else, who knows...
Aah OK.
So I suppose you would need the matching device driver to the physical camera. Presumably that device driver lives inside the Kernel.
So if you have for example a Note 7 camera, then in the Kernel of your phone will need to have the device driver from the Note 7 so the camera software knows how to control that camera.
You may also have bandwidth limitations talking to that camera, which is where increasing the bandwidth would come into play.
So it probably needs a Kernel developer to work with this mod. Either try it out themselves or work in with someone else who tries the camera mod.
Any Note 4 Kernel developers reading?
Given the Note 4 is the last removable battery phone, its probably worth the effort to make this work.

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