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Are you Due for a Renewal?

this is spam...enjoy your vacation. You were warned once already.

Nice try ... but not going to work around here.

wmdunn said:
Nice try ... but not going to work around here.
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why not? at least he not hiding an affiliate link behind a url shortener. im glad hes being upfront and honest that he is a reseller and if he can provide phones at a significant discount, who cares if he makes a commision. it is his job after all to sell phones and contracts.
i see no issue here.

austin420 said:
why not? at least he not hiding an affiliate link behind a url shortener. im glad hes being upfront and honest that he is a reseller and if he can provide phones at a significant discount, who cares if he makes a commision. it is his job after all to sell phones and contracts.
i see no issue here.
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From the XDA q&a ...
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban. You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting.

wmdunn said:
From the XDA q&a ...
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban. You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting.
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and since your a moderator, i guess you would know? ill leave this alone, because i respect my elders, but like i said at least hes being up front about it.
if you feel strongly, i suggest reporting it to the real moderators.

austin420 said:
and since your a moderator, i guess you would know? ill leave this alone, because i respect my elders, but like i said at least hes being up front about it.
if you feel strongly, i suggest reporting it to the real moderators.
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I never said that I was a moderator, simply giving the op some friendly advice. Not sure why you feel a need for sarcasm over showing someone new the XDA rules. I didn't make the rules ... it's really not necessary to flame the messenger.

wmdunn said:
Nice try ... but not going to work around here.
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Id hardly say that this is showing the op the rules. You sarcasticly opined "not gonna work around here"
You didn't cite a rule or even a reason until I prompted you.
How does that help the op to just tell him not to post this, but give no reason why? I honestly thought you were implying that the users wouldn't like it beccause its an affiliate link. You never mentioned a single rule in your first post to him.
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austin420 said:
Id hardly say that this is showing the op the rules. You sarcasticly opined "not gonna work around here"
You didn't cite a rule or even a reason until I prompted you.
How does that help the op to just tell him not to post this, but give no reason why? I honestly thought you were implying that the users wouldn't like it beccause its an affiliate link. You never mentioned a single rule in your first post to him.
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You seem to be looking for an argument ... I'm not. Done here.

wmdunn said:
You seem to be looking for an argument ... I'm not. Done here.
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That's seems to be a common comment from you. Just remember, if everyone seems to be arguing with you, maybe it isn't them, but perhaps something else.(yourself).
Regardless, have a nice day wmdunn. You seem like you need one.
Troll out!
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[OT] I would like to propose the following rule changes

For this section and this section alone, I would like to propose the following rule changes:
1. You must be a member of XDA for a period of no less than 6 months, and have contributed no less than 100 posts before being permitted to submit something here.
2. You must not resurrect an old thread ("Thread Necro'ing") that has lain dormant longer than 72 hours (3 days) as this can cause some confusion on whether or not a deal is still valid. Most deals posted within this section last 3 days or less, let's let the threads go quiet and stay quiet after they've served their purpose.
I humbly submit these minor changes in an effort to help the Member Found Deals section run a little bit smoother.

Cynagen said:
For this section and this section alone, I would like to propose the following rule changes:
1. You must be a member of XDA for a period of no less than 6 months, and have contributed no less than 100 posts before being permitted to submit something here.
2. You must not resurrect an old thread ("Thread Necro'ing") that has lain dormant longer than 72 hours (3 days) as this can cause some confusion on whether or not a deal is still valid. Most deals posted within this section last 3 days or less, let's let the threads go quiet and stay quiet after they've served their purpose.
I humbly submit these minor changes in an effort to help the Member Found Deals section run a little bit smoother.
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I could agree with #2, but I think #1 is pointless. I haven't seen a new member come in here and post anything useless. Why restrict them? I've seen veteran members more often then not come in here and either post stuff they're trying to sell or posting things that aren't really good deals.

I've relayed the information to our mod-team. I am also in support of your second point (not so much the first).

#2 sounds like a great idea.
#1 doesn't work. Why reward the blabber-mouths that make pointless posts and ask the same stupid questions over and over again, while penalizing those that read, use search, and don't clutter up the forums with useless drivel?

I'm glad to see that these recommendations are being discussed at least. The second one got me the other day so that's the one I really wanted to see in-place, however, I threw out the first one to try to alleviate those who're posting sales of their own items. Anyone have a way to address that fairly, any idea at all?

I agree except for #1. It seems to. restricted
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yeah, as someone with under 100 posts (but still a 3+ year user) I'm not thrilled about #1. I only post when I need to. We need to encourage people to search out their issues instead of just posting to up their count.

I disagree with number 1. I think that number 2 will be helpful but what about discussions that last longer than 3 days or deals that last longer than 3 days?
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A deal is a deal, I don't care who tells me about it.
I agree with number 2, what about adding that OP must add expiration date to the title when applicable, and no posting in thread after?
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I liked two things for sure.
1. Proposal #2. &
2. Your knockoff User Name! Jk!
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Gvndeb60 said:
A deal is a deal, I don't care who tells me about it.
I agree with number 2, what about adding that OP must add expiration date to the title when applicable, and no posting in thread after?
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I don't think the expiration date is really useful cause what about talking about receiving the item and etc
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Gvndeb60 said:
A deal is a deal, I don't care who tells me about it.
I agree with number 2, what about adding that OP must add expiration date to the title when applicable, and no posting in thread after?
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The expiration date is a great idea. Would the mods agree to just come along and lock threads that are past expiration (or immediately lock those that don't have one?)

would it be ok if the OP bumps a thread if he knows the deal is still live?

Jafmf95 said:
The expiration date is a great idea. Would the mods agree to just come along and lock threads that are past expiration (or immediately lock those that don't have one?)
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Why lock it maybe the OP does not know the expiration date? People could benefit from it. maybe lock it if it is known to be done deal already.
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sometimes ppl follow up on items they bought. locking the thread would stop ppl from doing so.
for example I posted a thread on cheap knock off ps3 controllers. im hoping it will work and pair with my phone. I don't have a ps3. when I receive it I was planning on letting the thread know what was the result. would that be bad?
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motrinHD said:
sometimes ppl follow up on items they bought. locking the thread would stop ppl from doing so.
for example I posted a thread on cheap knock off ps3 controllers. im hoping it will work and pair with my phone. I don't have a ps3. when I receive it I was planning on letting the thread know what was the result. would that be bad?
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Let people know how it went in case the same deal pops up. I think there should be an expiration date if applicable else listed as unknown/confirmed dead/confirmed alive.
#1 - I think the consensus on that is no and I agree. As said before, a deal is a deal - it doesn't matter who told me it.
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For number one to stop people from posting deals I say delete op and lock thread instead. That is why they keep doing it because if locked still get deal out there and can get pm's. I also say a tally system were under thanks have "deal interactions" first is warning one tally, second temporary punishment infraction and so on.
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The expiration date is only based on last active post in the thread. If the last active poster was 72 hours ago and you're not responding to a direct question, then that should be considered necro and would be against the rule.
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Please note the sticky announcement at the top of the For Sale forum. Because of this sticky, I'l close this thread as it's no longer relevant.

Question about apps that cant be posted here or on play store

Where can one person go to find the apps that are not allowed to be posted here or in the play store?
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If u can't post them... What makes u think we will tell you...

byebyev8 said:
Where can one person go to find the apps that are not allowed to be posted here or in the play store?
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Avoiding using the word "warez" does not obfuscate your intent, since that is the only sort of app that would be banned from XDA. That is, unless you can name some other exception that you are specifically looking for.

beerindex said:
Avoiding using the word "warez" does not obfuscate your intent, since that is the only sort of app that would be banned from XDA. That is, unless you can name some other exception that you are specifically looking for.
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Im sure hes lookin for a blackmarket. But none of that is allowed here. So his question is useless. Close this thread please
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Slideme.org
Not wares, just an alternative market. I won't vouch that every app is legit and safe but they have a lot of apps that got the boot from the official play store that I don't see anything malicious about them. Be careful. A couple of examples are emulators from yongzh and adfree android. His emulators were very highly rated but got the boot for some trumped up terms of conditions violations with Google play. I don't know the story behind either but many of the apps that used to be on the play store, but aren't any more, and were legit, and not malicious, are over at slideme.org

Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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As also stated any site that does not have legitimate apps is not discussed on XDA
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Petition To Unlock/Root Phone??

Now I'm sure this has been posted before, but after searching for like 20 minutes I could only find one to unlock a phone to go to a different carrier, not for root.
If no one knows of one, I would like to start one on We The People's website so people like us on Verizon can have the same opportunities as others do on other carriers that don't lock down this so dang hard.
Now of course, being the sh***y administration that Obama's is, last year they changed it from 25k signatures to 100k (and from 5k to 25k back in 2011) to be taken seriously. But I KNOW there is more than 100k Verizon users on here on XDA.
The only tough part would be spreading the word in the 30 days we have to achieve this to everyone who wants this. Maybe XDA can work with us and somehow create a pop-up to when you are on the site or app notifying them of this petition to sign? I know a lot of people would also shrug it off and think it's just spam, so maybe even a PM to everyone?
Now, to get Verizon to take this seriously as well, we would need to have a foolproof plan. We would need to put rules on this for them to even consider this. Such can include (but not limited to, add any you think should be added):
•soon as you root/unlock your device you have now voided your warranty (as it already is) and therefore would need to pay full price for a new phone IF you bricked your device or any other NON physical damages (Water, drops, cracks, etc)
•maybe even pay a small time fee of $50-$100 per phone for this root so they can actually earn some extra money (don't be cheap, you pay $200-$600 dollars per phone, and donate money here so it's the least you could do for freedom).
•That's all I've got for now, but I've been up since 8pm last night working, so my brain isn't fully functional right now so please add!

I'm sorry, but I don't think we will ever have the same abilities as other carriers. If we want to stick it to the man, we will have to do it how we have always done it. Behind their backs and find ways around the locks for what we want. Them giving us the ability outside of a Dev device, won't happen. They don't want us having any more power than that they will allow.
I like the thought, but I really don't see it happening bud.

Nice thought, Dennis but I doubt this would work. Many reasons, but probable the biggest is Verizon has heck of a lot more lawyers (working for them) than we do
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epagib said:
Nice thought, Dennis but I doubt this would work. Many reasons, but probable the biggest is Verizon has heck of a lot more lawyers (working for them) than we do
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lol i'm not sure the relevance of the lawyer comment? i'm not saying we need to force verizon to do this, just something to make them aware that out of over 100 million users on their network, a nice little portion would like this option. they can still make plenty of money out of it, whether it be that one time fee i suggested, or if something happens to your phone other than physical damage, you have to buy a phone at full price.

This thread has been cleaned of all talk of warranty fraud. That is not only illegal, but also against XDA rules. No further discussion on the matter will be tolerated.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
This thread has been cleaned of all talk of warranty fraud. That is not only illegal, but also against XDA rules. No further discussion on the matter will be tolerated.
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I must've missed what was said, can you PM me?
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Dennisg34 said:
I must've missed what was said, can you PM me?
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You replied to what was said, basically stating the same thing I said.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
You replied to what was said, basically stating the same thing I said.
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Oh OK I remember now, thanks!
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Timur Followers, where to now?

So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?

bossman137 said:
So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?
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As of now there is nowhere ....
You can contact him directly for support ....
Hopefully we can find a home soon ....since xda wont accommodate us
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I dont understand how we are allowed to talk about tasker but we cant talk about the software package from Timur. It reeks of favoritism.

Agreed. Extremely arrogant move.

It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...probably because they cant accomplish the same on there own.
This is the on going theme here with many roms and many highly skilled devs
You see it in any dev section where the devs get reported on for stealing work even though they are the ones who created it. Its a wonder some devs even keep there work public anymore , cause it is constantly happening
As usual the whiners ruin it for everyone ...its a shame but thats the world for you
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deadgiveaway said:
It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...probably because they cant accomplish the same on there own.
This is the on going theme here with many roms and many highly skilled devs
You see it in any dev section where the devs get reported on for stealing work even though they are the ones who created it. Its a wonder some devs even keep there work public anymore , cause it is constantly happening
As usual the whiners ruin it for everyone ...its a shame but thats the world for you
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I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar/substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
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NNL said:
I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-guide-to-paid-work-on-xda-developers/
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I know eh lol
Someone didnt get there cut ???
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NNL said:
I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-guide-to-paid-work-on-xda-developers/
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Did you read the article you linked??
Let me point some things to you that you obviously missed:
Now, a big chunk of Rule 11 deals with other topics aside from paid apps
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Pro-Tip #1 – Sell in the correct area
If you have a paid app that you are advertising on xda-developers, it must be posted in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion section, which has a few guidelines that need to be followed before posting. To save you some reading, you must be a member in good standing with some good history behind you on the site. This way, we ensure that people are not here solely to sell stuff.
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Pro-Tip #3 – Link =| Spam
Be mindful of the amount of advertising you do with your paid work. Again, you can link from within the thread of your free version. However, you cannot include direct links to your paid apps in your signature, profile, or anywhere else. You can, however, put links to your free app threads in the aforementioned places, which already contain links to the paid counterparts. Simply put, you must first present your free app before you direct others to your paid work.
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deadgiveaway said:
I know eh lol
Someone didnt get there cut ???
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I don't know what you mean, but xda has never gotten any money from developers, except from volunteer donations to the site that anyone can make.
deadgiveaway said:
It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-developers-and-the-gpl/
As a result, we would like to clarify our position on the GPL, and users’ obligations to this effect. By posting your work on XDA-Developers, you are agreeing that it complies with relevant licensing conditions. As such, by posting a kernel or other work containing GPL code, you are confirming to us that you have made this source code available publicly under the GPL, and should highlight this in your thread with a link.
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bjornh said:
Agreed. Extremely arrogant move.
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How is it arrogant?
Please read the forum rules.(8,11)
NNL said:
I dont understand how we are allowed to talk about tasker but we cant talk about the software package from Timur. It reeks of favoritism.
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If you see any download link of any paid app please use the report button and the moderation team will take care of it.
Please read the forum rules.(6)
bossman137 said:
So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?
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The thread was closed for a reason so you can assume not in the xda forum as long as the kernel remains donation only. You can contact the original developer and ask him.
Thread closed.
I hope I answered your questions, for any comments or further discussion you can contact me via pm.