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Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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The Nexus 4's specs are still better than the S3, it's screen is brighter, has more natural colors, and ditches pentile, the body is made up of Gorilla Glass 2 instead of plastic, and you will get updates from Google, pure stock Android.
What you lose is the features of Touchwiz, the delicacy of glass may be a problem, the S3 has more memory and an SD card slot, and its camera is apparently better.
It's your choice
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Yeah it is ultimately your choice, but you can get a Nexus 4 if you want to keep it stock. I am. You do not have to root, unlock bootloader, etc... to enjoy it. Stock is plenty awesome.
Absolutely! I've ran stock on both my gnex and N4.
I too had grown tired of constant flashing. Stock runs great and there really isn't a must have feature I can find in a custom ROM.
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Sure, go for it. Precisely BECAUSE it's a nexus, you don't feel the need to flash custom roms to get rid of the crappy stock experience like you have to on most other phones. However, in the future, if you ever do want to try your hand at using custom stuff again, you will have the support of the best modder community around. Win Win.
Edit: as for the S3, sure it has a few more features than stock android, but I personally find a lot of them gimmicky or altogether useless. Also, my brother just received the official samsung jellybean update on his s3 and it is nowhere as smooth as stock jellybean on my N4.
Qbsti said:
Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes.
Nexus 4 for sure.
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El Daddy said:
Absolutely! I've ran stock on both my gnex and N4.
I too had grown tired of constant flashing. Stock runs great and there really isn't a must have feature I can find in a custom ROM.
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Code Fire X BR2 with matrix 2.0 kernel speeds everything up while improving battery life :thumbup:
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I'm rooted but that's it. Usually the only reason I change roms is because I'm trying to get back to stock (from sense/touchwiz/motoblur/etc.)
N4 for sure. I haven't had a reason to flash, unlike my s3... its been sitting in my nightstand drawer since my n4 arrived early Nov. the n4 build quality also feels a lot better.
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I've had my nexus 4 since it launched in late 2012, is been great but I can't put up with the bad battery life anymore. Even under clocked it, changed kernals, used other ROMs then coming back to the latest stock. Nothing I did could improve it without significantly crippling the phone performance to the point of making it unusable! But besides that, it's been a nice slick device, bit on the simple side but it delivered
Anyway enough on the nexus 4, I'm getting a refurbished G2 tomorrow, paid an amazing price for it same as the nexus 4 when I bought that.
Is there anything I should know our expect coming from someone who is very used to stock android, and the nexus 4 in general hardware side? Have I got lots to look forward to, or should I keep my expectations low and for those that come from the same device as me and now own the g2, let me know!
It will be good I also switch from nexus 4
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Also switched from Nexus 4,got Phone now for a week, very happy with it, still on stock 4.4.2 rom, rooted and using xposed, great battery life and Realy smooth
I was thinking of installing the Nexus 5 based rom you can find in the development section, but I am happy with the stock rom
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It will be good I also switch from nexus 4
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I agree, I think G2 is perfect size though. Anything bigger is just too much.
Thanks for the replies! Will do a quick review of it when I get it in the morning or late at night after I come home from work, well see when the postie arrives hah. Been really looking forward to it! Will I miss the build quality of the Nexus 4?
G2 stock is fast and responsive. The custom roms make it all the more smoother.
I used to do all the tweaks to conserve battery in my previous phone, in G2 I'm just trying out all the new roms, not worrying about not having enough battery at all. The focus has turned to performance, since battery is no longer an issue
MDaveUK said:
Thanks for the replies! Will do a quick review of it when I get it in the morning or late at night after I come home from work, well see when the postie arrives hah. Been really looking forward to it! Will I miss the build quality of the Nexus 4?
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I came from a Nexus 4 as well and I find the G2 better in every way...there is no comparison it's in a different league. The only thing I miss is the quick OS updates.
I wasnt sure how I would like running a phone with it's own spin on the UI, and had intended to flash a ROM with a more Nexus type experience, but I actually really like a lot of the extra features that LG has baked in to the OS.
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Faugly
The battery's roughly twice the life of nexus 4, maybe even better.. Go get it
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The battery's roughly twice the life of nexus 4, maybe even better.. Go get it
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So glad to read that hah. I should be getting it in a few hours now, what's the first thing I should do with it?
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So glad to read that hah. I should be getting it in a few hours now, what's the first thing I should do with it?
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Came form a Nexus 4 as well. Had the G2 months now, and it is by far a better phone. I kind of miss the glass feel of the Nexus, but it's a very minor whinge is that.
As for first thing to do with it . . . . Set it up, and run it in, may as well leave it completely stock to see how you like that first. Then start tweaking, Nova launcher + Root + Custom Recovery + Xposed + Custom Kernel + Xdabbeb camera mod. I've got all that done, getting around 40-46 hours battery life with 5-6 hours screen on time at 60% brightness permanently and plenty of normal usage and still have 5% battery life left. If I was a very very light user, getting 3 days out of it would be easy.
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Came form a Nexus 4 as well. Had the G2 months now, and it is by far a better phone. I kind of miss the glass feel of the Nexus, but it's a very minor whinge is that.
As for first thing to do with it . . . . Set it up, and run it in, may as well leave it completely stock to see how you like that first. Then start tweaking, Nova launcher + Root + Custom Recovery + Xposed + Custom Kernel + Xdabbeb camera mod. I've got all that done, getting around 40-46 hours battery life with 5-6 hours screen on time at 60% brightness permanently and plenty of normal usage and still have 5% battery life left. If I was a very very light user, getting 3 days out of it would be easy.
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Awesome, thanks for the tips! I'll run it on stock for a day or 2 then But I'm sure I'll be itching to try all the mods that you listed hah. I just discovered that it weighs almost the same as the Nexus 4?! Amazing phone really Hurry up ParcelForce and bring it to me, this is my day off work, don't let it go to waste lol.
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Awesome, thanks for the tips! I'll run it on stock for a day or 2 then But I'm sure I'll be itching to try all the mods that you listed hah. I just discovered that it weighs almost the same as the Nexus 4?! Amazing phone really Hurry up ParcelForce and bring it to me, this is my day off work, don't let it go to waste lol.
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I will admit that even though I stayed completely stock for ages, as in using lg launcher etc, I always disable things like qslide and all the other things they added, apart from knock on obviously, as that is now something I couldn't live without.
Alright got it I've played around with it for about an hour, messing with settings and setting up my accounts on various apps, all ready to go.
First impression is wow, its beautiful Such a nice screen! And it actually feels lighter then my nexus 4 because of the weight distribution of it in your hand, its spread out more across your hand so it feels lighter then it really is. Great job LG! I do miss the glass feel a tiny bit, I don't mind the plastic feel to be honest, I have dry hands so it actually has a good grip compared to glass for me! I realise I need root already though, because of my precious Titanium Backup going to figure that out next!
Overall first impressions of the hardware and software is very good, glad to see the standards are raised up so high these days, and this is the result.
Oh man the first thing I wanted to do was change that default notification and ring sound STRAIGHT AWAY! So cheesy and blaaaaah! I liked the 'Pick up your phone' choir though, had a good laugh from that one
This is for those that CURRENTLY own the Nexus 6P and have no plans on rooting it.
Would you still choose it over any other Smartphone today whether Android or Apple?
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This is for those that CURRENTLY own the Nexus 6P and have no plans on rooting it.
Would you still choose it over any other Smartphone today whether Android or Apple?
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Absolutely. The hot mess that AOSP LP was turned me off of custom ROMs when the final dev preview came out on my n6. Different carrier builds, the custom I really wanted to use didn't have wificalling. To many pieces were missing from AOSP. It was like a damn treasure hunt. I'm going to stay stock for a bit since M is so stable and fluid. Battery life is more than I need. It's good to see that everything is merged again into a single build, if something groundbreaking or fun is developed I might start tinkering again
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I'm on the fence on rooting. at this point I only want to do it to raise the headphone levels. just for when I have to plug it into a stereo (which I do often) for now Im just using my N9 to plug in instead.
And yes I would still choose it. this is a damn good phone where there isn't much that i look at other devices and wish I had..
I have seen the Iphone 6s i would only want the fluidity of its camera app on my device. the camera app has improved but still has room to improve.
I am also in the fence about rooting. This phone runs beautifully. The only thing I really want root for is to run layers themes.
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I just got my Nexus 5x. The last Nexus phone I've had was a 4 and it was awesome but I had to leave the Nexus line alone because my phone company wouldn't sell nor cover them with insurance.
Now I have an 5x coming from a Galaxy S7 and I must say this phone blows out my s7 every way ... But I don't understand how with the specs being lower than the s7. Can somebody explain?
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samsung is bloated with fearures, which means more running services. also bigger resolution need more juice
that being said, i doubt that s7 has nothing over 5x, especially with 5x's meh speaker..
in any case, this is the best time to join the "nexus peasants" as there is 7.1.1 beta ongoing. most users say its stable and better than 7.0 and personally i gained 1h sot (3 to 4)
My phone's battery is really well over my s7. I work 12 hours and around hour 4 my phone is dead. My Nexus last me all shift
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How do I join the beta
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My phone's battery is really well over my s7. I work 12 hours and around hour 4 my phone is dead. My Nexus last me all shift
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Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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How do I join the beta
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https://www.google.com/android/beta
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EeZeEpEe said:
Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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Yes with my s7 the battery life sucked. I always had to bring a charger with me everywhere I go
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bhunna713 said:
I just got my Nexus 5x. The last Nexus phone I've had was a 4 and it was awesome but I had to leave the Nexus line alone because my phone company wouldn't sell nor cover them with insurance.
Now I have an 5x coming from a Galaxy S7 and I must say this phone blows out my s7 every way ... But I don't understand how with the specs being lower than the s7. Can somebody explain?
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Isn't it a little too much to prefer Nexus 5x over S7???? Really guys, Nexus 5x is a good phone for its current price but saying it is better than S7 doesn't make sense.
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Isn't it a little too much to prefer Nexus 5x over S7???? Really guys, Nexus 5x is a good phone for its current price but saying it is better than S7 doesn't make sense.
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Spec wise I was better but it's not better to me when I can't mod, or utilize those cool features without my phone constantly dying on me. When I had my s7 I was always somewhere by an outlet.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Really only 4 hours? I highly doubt that but okay. I work 12s too but barely get to use my 5X so I'm around 45-55% by the time I'm off my shift.
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I also often work 10s and 12s. I think the real battery gain lies in excellent standby time we get from this phone. I can work all day with about an hour of heavy usage throughout the shift, LTE enabled most of the day and still have 60-70% by the time I get home (including another hour of use listening to music in the car). My standby time is phenomenal. The fact that I have a custom ROM and kernel tweaks undoubtedly adds battery life, but I hear stock N is pretty comparable...but as they say, your mileage may vary.
However, I can tell you from personal experience that Galaxy battery life is usually abysmal
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Yes with my s7 the battery life sucked. I always had to bring a charger with me everywhere I go
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Root that 5x,install Viper4Arise add @guitardedhero's audiophile profile and.irs samples and you got the best sound system ever! I work in the music business and with Viper installed I carry a hi fidelity sound system in my pocket. I used to do the "Samsung Galaxy Thing"but after I dropped it, I bought a Galaxy Nexus,then the Nexus 4,5,6,5x,&6p and I still have em all in the box in mint Condition. IN MY OPINION, YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER,MORE RELIABLE,ALWAYS CUTTING EDGE,& ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BRICK.My moto Nexus 6 had a hole in the top of the screen,about 2" in diameter(from my 2y/o.)& It kept rocking for another year before I had to replace it.
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Root that 5x,install Viper4Arise add @guitardedhero's audiophile profile and.irs samples and you got the best sound system ever! I work in the music business and with Viper installed I carry a hi fidelity sound system in my pocket. I used to do the "Samsung Galaxy Thing"but after I dropped it, I bought a Galaxy Nexus,then the Nexus 4,5,6,5x,&6p and I still have em all in the box in mint Condition. IN MY OPINION, YOU CANNOT GET A BETTER,MORE RELIABLE,ALWAYS CUTTING EDGE,& ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BRICK.My moto Nexus 6 had a hole in the top of the screen,about 2" in diameter(from my 2y/o.)& It kept rocking for another year before I had to replace it.
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How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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OGNatan said:
The fact that I have a custom ROM and kernel tweaks undoubtedly adds battery life, but I hear stock N is pretty comparable...but as they say, your mileage may vary.
However, I can tell you from personal experience that Galaxy battery life is usually abysmal
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with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
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How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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there is a mod to make your phone stereo, i used it and its ok but its very hard to balance the speakers and it affects other sounds like calls or ringing, so you cant increase/decrease balance too much before it becomes incovenient. also its impossible to balance them anyway cause the bottom is bassier, so you balance it for a song and its all over the place in the next.
i imagine you flash viper like you do all zips, have not used it since years
if your root is systemless then you receive OTA just fine. heck, i received ota while i was using stock+ rom, flash kernel, hawktail profile, thermal engine edits, was rooted and had custom recovery xD
Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
there is a mod to make your phone stereo, i used it and its ok but its very hard to balance the speakers and it affects other sounds like calls or ringing, so you cant increase/decrease balance too much before it becomes incovenient. also its impossible to balance them anyway cause the bottom is bassier, so you balance it for a song and its all over the place in the next.
i imagine you flash viper like you do all zips, have not used it since years
if your root is systemless then you receive OTA just fine. heck, i received ota while i was using stock+ rom, flash kernel, hawktail profile, thermal engine edits, was rooted and had custom recovery xD
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So if I root stock 7.0 with root tool kit, I will not have a problem with ota coming to my phone. Will I lose root when the ota comes? The only reason I want root is because i can so something about these speakers
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bhunna713 said:
How do I install? I'm really BIG on music and would enjoy stereo speakers. I have one big question. If I root, will I still be able to instill the 7.1 ota when it comes out through my phone?
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Ota breaks root...NEVER OTA... I use wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock then go through the root process on the new image. I am not running 7.1, I haven't tried it yet,works like a beast on 7.0, look up the Viper4arise forum right here on XDA, and VERY CAREFULLY READ THE ENTIRE OP BEFORE YOU BEGIN.Or you can really screw up if you don't know what you are doing,if you do,root then install the latest Deut. with audiophile profile.You can flash through TWRP but you have to extract the Audiophile profile and copy profile onto your SD or internal storage,or into the Viper4android folder that was installed when you flashed the appropriate zip.
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Ota breaks root...NEVER OTA... I use wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock then go through the root process on the new image. I am not running 7.1, I haven't tried it yet,works like a beast on 7.0, look up the Viper4arise forum right here on XDA, and VERY CAREFULLY READ THE ENTIRE OP BEFORE YOU BEGIN.Or you can really screw up if you don't know what you are doing,if you do,root then install the latest Deut. with audiophile profile.You can flash through TWRP but you have to extract the Audiophile profile and copy profile onto your SD or internal storage,or into the Viper4android folder that was installed when you flashed the appropriate zip.
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Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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bhunna713 said:
Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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Right on!! I hear ya about rooting your phone,but nowadays you don't have to give up total security with having root.Systemless Root is just fine for me,it keeps me encrypted and allows me the freedom to Install system apps,Roms,custom recovery and install Viper.Your SElinux is still enforcing protection,but read carefully everything on here,just because one dude's triumph can be another ones brick.Read EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY,AND VERY THOROUGHLY. If you get stumped, one of these great devs on here will help you,as long as the question isn't redundant.PLEASE READ AND MAKE SURE THE ? HAS NOT BEEN ASKED BEFORE.THE DEVS.ON HERE WORK HARD TO HELP US WITH OUR PROBLEMS,99.9% OF THE TIME FOR FREE,SO IF IT TAKES READING THAT LIL BIT EXTRA TO GET YOUR ANSWER,YOU WILL BE THAT MUCH WISER FOR IT.
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Is root really worth it nowadays? Last time I rooted a phone was my Nexus 4 when it first came out and I used AOKP. Im fine with stock 7.0 features as they do me well. I just want to do something about the speakers.
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before 7.1.1 i would say yes, otherwise no unless you want more customization (though xposed is not released for nougat)
as i said, you better not do anything about the speakers as there is no way to balance them, and after only a week not using the stereo mod i honestly dont feel like i miss it
maybe you can install viper as stakmak advices
Giorgos Chatziioannou said:
with my usage i always got close to 3h sot and i have tried plenty of kernels, profiles and roms. only with 7.1.1 stock i get reliably 4h, heck my worst sot was when an app crapped out and drained 25% over 4 hours while i wasnt using the phone.. and i still got 3.30h sot out of it !!
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Have you looked into Greenify/Amplify and such? I know they can be hit or miss, but I consistently get 5-6h sot that way along with Dirty Unicorns ROM and EX kernel. LTE on most of the time, and some gaming. For the record though, I could never break 4h sot on stock M. Same with N dev preview. Too erratic.
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Have you looked into Greenify/Amplify and such? I know they can be hit or miss, but I consistently get 5-6h sot that way along with Dirty Unicorns ROM and EX kernel. LTE on most of the time, and some gaming. For the record though, I could never break 4h sot on stock M. Same with N dev preview. Too erratic.
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no xposed for nugat yet
other than that greenify would be useless on nougat, and since the standby drain is great i doubt amplify would do much too. its just my usage thats special, 5x on 7.1.1 has the best battery on any phone i owned and it lasts a day so its certainly not bad
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no xposed for nugat yet
other than that greenify would be useless on nougat, and since the standby drain is great i doubt amplify would do much too. its just my usage thats special, 5x on 7.1.1 has the best battery on any phone i owned and it lasts a day so its certainly not bad
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I guess the point is, as long as you're happy with it, stick with what works
1.why android 11 and greater is not compiling for nexus 6p?
2.which best rom. stock android 8.1 or pixel dust android 10
Fatarick said:
1.why android 11 and greater is not compiling for nexus 6p?
2.which best rom. stock android 8.1 or pixel dust android 10
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Ive been seaching for Android 12 or 13 roms for months, its seems they dont exist for nexus 6P. its weird considering ive came across Android 12 and 13 ROMs for Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and also Nexus 5x.
Ive been using Pixel Dust 10, After installing almost all the Custom ROMs out there for Nexus 6p, I have been using Pixel Dust 10 flawlessly without any problem. I think it is the best ROMs for angler.
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Ive been seaching for Android 12 or 13 roms for months, its seems they dont exist for nexus 6P. its weird considering ive came across Android 12 and 13 ROMs for Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and also Nexus 5x.
Ive been using Pixel Dust 10, After installing almost all the Custom ROMs out there for Nexus 6p, I have been using Pixel Dust 10 flawlessly without any problem. I think it is the best ROMs for angler.
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Does your camera works fine under Pixel Dust 10? As when I installed it, I could use camera for about one minute or few takes then camera windows went black and only restarting phone would make it work again.
Some times I had issue with Chrome but over all it was working pretty good
I have now returned to original Oreo 8.1 and looks like battery is working better as the phone it self. Ai
Although I have issue with Google play store, which I described on another post.
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Does your camera works fine under Pixel Dust 10? As when I installed it, I could use camera for about one minute or few takes then camera windows went black and only restarting phone would make it work again.
Some times I had issue with Chrome but over all it was working pretty good
I have now returned to original Oreo 8.1 and looks like battery is working better as the phone it self. Ai
Although I have issue with Google play store, which I described on another post.
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It has been a 2 month since ive used Pixel Dust now, Since im using Nexus 6p as a secondary phone i rarely take pictures with it. The sock camera app kept crashing so i moved to "open camera", which has been working fine for me. I have not experiences any issues with Chrome yet or any other app for that matter. My only issue now is the battery performance, i can only hot 2 hours of youtube video playback. its nice that you returned to 8.1, but i perosnally feel like i would lose lots of functionalities that i love like Always on Display.