Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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The Nexus 4's specs are still better than the S3, it's screen is brighter, has more natural colors, and ditches pentile, the body is made up of Gorilla Glass 2 instead of plastic, and you will get updates from Google, pure stock Android.
What you lose is the features of Touchwiz, the delicacy of glass may be a problem, the S3 has more memory and an SD card slot, and its camera is apparently better.
It's your choice
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Yeah it is ultimately your choice, but you can get a Nexus 4 if you want to keep it stock. I am. You do not have to root, unlock bootloader, etc... to enjoy it. Stock is plenty awesome.
Absolutely! I've ran stock on both my gnex and N4.
I too had grown tired of constant flashing. Stock runs great and there really isn't a must have feature I can find in a custom ROM.
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Sure, go for it. Precisely BECAUSE it's a nexus, you don't feel the need to flash custom roms to get rid of the crappy stock experience like you have to on most other phones. However, in the future, if you ever do want to try your hand at using custom stuff again, you will have the support of the best modder community around. Win Win.
Edit: as for the S3, sure it has a few more features than stock android, but I personally find a lot of them gimmicky or altogether useless. Also, my brother just received the official samsung jellybean update on his s3 and it is nowhere as smooth as stock jellybean on my N4.
Qbsti said:
Is the nexus 4 worth getting, if I want to keep it stock? (no rooting/unlocking/etc)
The whole reason i wanted a nexus, is to have a rest from constantly flashing the nightlies and updates/backing up/restoring.
I think, that this phone is the best for me, but it's pricey in EU (~470$ from play store), and the difference between S3 and N4 is only 70$, do you think it's still a good value, or should i get the s3?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes.
Nexus 4 for sure.
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El Daddy said:
Absolutely! I've ran stock on both my gnex and N4.
I too had grown tired of constant flashing. Stock runs great and there really isn't a must have feature I can find in a custom ROM.
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Code Fire X BR2 with matrix 2.0 kernel speeds everything up while improving battery life :thumbup:
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I'm rooted but that's it. Usually the only reason I change roms is because I'm trying to get back to stock (from sense/touchwiz/motoblur/etc.)
N4 for sure. I haven't had a reason to flash, unlike my s3... its been sitting in my nightstand drawer since my n4 arrived early Nov. the n4 build quality also feels a lot better.
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I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?
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I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?
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Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.
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Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.
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All the more reason we need this accursed bootloader unlocked
Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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yes i notice this very much. i have rooted mine as per the motosomething posted on the forum and disabled most services in titanium backup but still, there is a bit of studder/lag. its not 100% smooth as i was expecting out of a phone with a 1.9GHZ quad core processor and 2gb ddr3 ram!!!
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Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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Note 2 stock uses full potential of exynos. Custom Roms doesnt since exynos source not released
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And that sucks it kindof got me rethinking about purchasing this at the moment with all these lag threads everywhere
The htc one is smoother but it has zero features. I still like the s4 with or without lag.
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Guys just give it a minute. They could release an OTA update that fixes it. Remember it's 4.2.x not all apps are meant for it.
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Yeah the phone feels a bit laggy after I installed all my apps and signed into my account.
I was going to post this but you seedy beat me to it
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Tell me about it my balls are itching for a release of a software upgrade.
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The thing about an update is samsung NEVER releases updates si I doubt itll happen.
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I personally want to thank all of the Guinea Pigs for helping to sort through all of the early release issues so mine will be a much better experience when I finally buy it.
I'm sure its do to apps not being optimized for it yet. I looked at what was using all of my memory and there was my good ole xda premium app at the top of the list. Lol. My one I had felt faster but I say give it time. I remember my note 2 had a couple updates within the first month or two. I could care less BC I live this phone.
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Turn on power savings and see if it is snappier. It feels to me like it is. Very odd but maybe its just me.
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Thank God it's not just me. I just exchanged the One that I bought on the 23rd for the S4 today and noticed a bunch of lag. Kind of upsetting. All the reviews I watched there was no lag at all. The One and the S4 have the same chip but the One is clocked at 1.7. Doesn't make any sense that it's snappier than the S4. I REALLY hope I don't regret my decision because the One I had was very good quality control wise..
I've noticed a bit of a slow down when unlocking from the lock screen and opening the app drawer. Nothing major but pretty annoying. The One I traded in today had nothing like that. Oh well.
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I also experience lag on my gs4. Not terrible, but my gs3 is faster in everyday use.
It's gotta be able to be fixed through an update right? If it's happening to all of us..
My international exynos I9500 has a bunch of lag also so don't feel bad guys. My guess is that it has to do with the 4.2 Jellybean. That version is pretty much optimized for the Nexus 4 (which I had) and had almost zero lag. That was probably the snappiest android device I've used along with the Note 2.
The HTC One is still on 4.1 so my guess once it's updated to 4.2 it will lag just the same until the overlays are optimized for it (Sense and TW).
In this meantime it's kinda bullsh1t that a phone with this much power still has more lag than a prior gen Galaxy S3.
I use a note 2 and I see the lag in the s4. A new "flagship" device shouldn't have this much lag on it even with all the bloat... The s3 didn't even lag like this which is kinda sad.
I gotta switch my sons plan to Verizon. Right now he has a S3 on sprint. I can't really afford to buy him another S3 and wanted your opinions on the Razor M especially after buying my S4.....hehehe
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The M is an excellent phone. It has the same chipset as the VZW S3, and the size is excellent in my opinion. The stock firmware does a pretty poor job of demonstrating the phone's power, but with something like CM10.1, it's blazing fast. Apparently the screen has noticeably lower resolution than the S3, but personally, I don't have a problem with it. Battery is awesome, easily make a day on a charge.
I honestly would chose it over the S3 regardless of the price, but that's a nice little bene too
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The m also has a gorilla glass screen and reinforced body. Ive dropped it a few times and it still looks mint
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The m also has a gorilla glass screen and reinforced body. Ive dropped it a few times and it still looks mint
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Lucky. Mine doesn't look mint, but it just has a couple scratches on the bevel. Nothing bad at all. I've dropped it a ton though...
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Lucky. Mine doesn't look mint, but it just has a couple scratches on the bevel. Nothing bad at all. I've dropped it a ton though...
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Same here. Every time I get a scuff on the bezel a piece of me dies inside
I've found Trident's case to be a pretty great medium-duty case if anyone wants to try it out.
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phatiboombatty said:
I gotta switch my sons plan to Verizon. Right now he has a S3 on sprint. I can't really afford to buy him another S3 and wanted your opinions on the Razor M especially after buying my S4.....hehehe
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I had an S3, which was an awesome phone... but personally I like the feel of the M in my hand better. The screen is obviously better in the S3, but I don't really notice that much for what I use it for.
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I had an S3, which was an awesome phone... but personally I like the feel of the M in my hand better. The screen is obviously better in the S3, but I don't really notice that much for what I use it for.
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This is why I got my RAZR M over the S3 in the first place. I went from a DINC to an iPhone 4S, got bored and wanted back on Android.
I LOVE my RAZR M, and even the entirely stock firmware feels much more AOSP based than touchwiz or Sense. Toss a launcher on it and an AOSP icon pack, and it feels very vanilla Android. And now with the unlocked bootloader, there are quite a few CM options, and I'd assume plenty more to come. :good:
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This is why I got my RAZR M over the S3 in the first place. I went from a DINC to an iPhone 4S, got bored and wanted back on Android.
I LOVE my RAZR M, and even the entirely stock firmware feels much more AOSP based than touchwiz or Sense. Toss a launcher on it and an AOSP icon pack, and it feels very vanilla Android. And now with the unlocked bootloader, there are quite a few CM options, and I'd assume plenty more to come. :good:
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I feel the same about the stock rom. The only reason that I did pacman rom is because i want 4.2.2.
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I feel the same about the stock rom. The only reason that I did pacman rom is because i want 4.2.2.
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Yeah, I was running the moto based Eclipse V2 ROM for a while and liked it, but had to jump on the pure google train when the ROM got a little more stable.
Everyone that's running GE, what are your 1st impressions of it?
I know it has some sense framework in it etc but overall I'm really digging it a lot..to me it feels a little faster...more clean obviously... I know some will hate but I am very pleased with the Google edition ROM on my T-Mobile m7 phone.
It's basically plain Android. What more could one say? Meh
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its stock android on a 1080p aluminum phone
the super nexus imo
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I have fallen in love with this phone all over again. This is exactly what I wanted. The camera quality hasn't suffered, and Beats is present.
I just switched from iPhone land and I loved the phone with Sense, but it's still awkward and clunky. Much less so than what I had remembered of Sense from years past. I kept hearing about how Jelly Bean was really a big leap for the platform and it really shows with the GPE ROM. I didn't realize how polished Jelly Bean was until tonight. I am now 100% team Google/Android.
I'll never get rid of my MacBook but it's going to take something extraordinary to pry the One out of my hand. These speakers have spoiled me, I don't think I can leave HTC now even though I want a true Nexus device next.
I like how it seems smoother and cleaner. My new daily driver!
Its amazing. Much better than I anticipated. Just make sure to download the aosp browser.
And I changed the minimum CPU to 1026mhz like the nexus 4
I'm a little annoyed by the fact that aptX is missing now. Other than that, it's much preferred over Sense.
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Its amazing. Much better than I anticipated. Just make sure to download the aosp browser.
And I changed the minimum CPU to 1026mhz like the nexus 4
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Minimum to 1026? Just curious, why did you do that? Don't you think your battery life will suffer?
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Minimum to 1026? Just curious, why did you do that? Don't you think your battery life will suffer?
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I'm curious too, don't see the good in that.
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I love it, I have a nexus 4 and I hated the screen Cuz it has a yellow tint to it... This is just as clean as sense. I love cm 10 and once a fully working version come out I'll switch to that. I know that cm is working hard on it so I have no complaints, just waiting. I do love stock very very much. Plus I was using nova launch with my sense phone now I can have pure and be happy
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I love this ****, best ROM I've ever used, daily driver for SURE.
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I'm curious too, don't see the good in that.
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Its at 1026 because of mp decision or whatever crap for no lag.
Just set it to 300 or whatever. Use tbaldwin kernel for 100 mhz.
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Yeah I have to agree with everything that's been said before. This is what the Android experience should feel like and it will only get better. Having owned both iOS and Android devices since the dawn of both, this is as good as its ever been and am very very happy.
Does anyone know how to enable battery percentage on the status bar?
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for those on HTC__001 or a CID where google keyboard dont work, youll have to change the CID to GOOGL001
first impressions? good, feels good to be back on a stock device that feels nicer than my old Nexus 4
is wifi hotspot broken? or is it just me? error
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for those on HTC__001 or a CID where google keyboard dont work, youll have to change the CID to GOOGL001
first impressions? good, feels good to be back on a stock device that feels nicer than my old Nexus 4
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Thanks.. didn't know.
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Yeah I have to agree with everything that's been said before. This is what the Android experience should feel like and it will only get better. Having owned both iOS and Android devices since the dawn of both, this is as good as its ever been and am very very happy.
Does anyone know how to enable battery percentage on the status bar?
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There isn't an option for this on aosp 4.2.2.
You'll have to install a de-odexed version and I am sure there will be plenty of % battery mods to flash very soon if not already.
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I have fallen in love with this phone all over again. This is exactly what I wanted. The camera quality hasn't suffered, and Beats is present.
I just switched from iPhone land and I loved the phone with Sense, but it's still awkward and clunky. Much less so than what I had remembered of Sense from years past. I kept hearing about how Jelly Bean was really a big leap for the platform and it really shows with the GPE ROM. I didn't realize how polished Jelly Bean was until tonight. I am now 100% team Google/Android.
I'll never get rid of my MacBook but it's going to take something extraordinary to pry the One out of my hand. These speakers have spoiled me, I don't think I can leave HTC now even though I want a true Nexus device next.
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The camera quality has suffered!!! There is no way on Earth that the quality on the Trickdroid GE Rom is anywhere near as good as stock or ARHD 11.
It made me like my one twice as much
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Stock android lovers will obviously love this, whereas I personally miss some sense stuff. For the starters the audio quality is worse, not just in headphones but the loudspeaker is definitely quieter than on sense. I miss the camera interface and Zoe as well as things like focusing on a bright area so it dims the picture and vice versa.
Can't judge battery life since I didn't use it long enough. It's smooth but my One running Viper Rom is really smooth and personally won't trade off some really good features to gain a 0.05 speed increase. It's good that the option is there for stock android lovers though
Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Remove all bloatware and preinstalled apps u don't use etc etc ... since u were rooted u should know the drill to lighten the load ...
If you buy the i9505 u can also install stock android rom just as the i9505g(google edition) has
But if you want touchwiz or any of the samsung features, to my experience and we are talking about stock ... the i9500 seem to have fewer lagging issues ...
I bought my S4 to replace a nexus 4. Had the same boredom feeling about vanilla android experience so I ended up using this i9505. It's a great device IF you manage somehow to deal with lag and stutters all over the place (speaking of Tw stock roms ofc). I really can't understand why a hardware beast like this has to lag more than my very old S2. So, in terms of lag (that was your Q) you'll be disappointed... in all other terms it's still one of the best.
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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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I considered the HTC one and nexus 4 also, but the S4 screen just looks stunning (even though the HTC's is supposedly better in direct sunlight). The screen looks huge (although its become normal to me now) and even though its not that much bigger than the HTC's, it still looks a lot bigger when side by side.
Its certainly not a slow device and is actually very smooth but you can definitely do plenty to improve things. As mentioned above, I removed a lot of bloat apps that I dont use/won't miss. I also started using greenify to hibernate apps running in the background. Another simple thing is change the animation speeds to 0.5x, I also do this on my nexus 7 as it makes it feel snappier as well (not that its slow). There are also the options of a lot of custom ROMs, some that are simply stock look with touchwiz, but tweaked/optimised for speed/battery life.
There is also the option of AOSP/CM/Google Edition ROMs if you want something leaner. Plus there are a couple of methods of dual booting if you want the best of both worlds. The speed and simplicity of stock android is great, but its also great to enjoy all of the bells and whistle features that Samsung added (that you paid for!).
So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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There will definitely be a lot less lag than the standard stock ROM, although you'd really need to test yourself to see how they perform for you. There's usually plenty of comments in the ROM threads on how people find them, so they're worth a read.
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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I'm currently on rooted stock also and it's great, if its laggy then its certainly not laggy enough for me to want to keep switching ROMs or even change phone. As much as people say how great sense is on the HTC one, it looks so dull and unfinished to me. And I know it's a real improvement as I've had htcs and seen it go from a rich ui to a bloated clunky mess. But you hand someone your s4 and you usually see how impressed they are with the stunning colourful display.
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Yep, as always Nova is like butter, its a great launcher.
I dont want nova, ive used it with.many other skins and i just dont want to use it. I dont care if people get impressed by it, i want a phone that will keep me for at least a year and a half and i know note 3 seems a abetter solution but without lags, i can still be happy with s4 for a while. What about kernels? Franco kernel for gnex helps a lot as ive used it. What about s4?
This is for those that CURRENTLY own the Nexus 6P and have no plans on rooting it.
Would you still choose it over any other Smartphone today whether Android or Apple?
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This is for those that CURRENTLY own the Nexus 6P and have no plans on rooting it.
Would you still choose it over any other Smartphone today whether Android or Apple?
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Absolutely. The hot mess that AOSP LP was turned me off of custom ROMs when the final dev preview came out on my n6. Different carrier builds, the custom I really wanted to use didn't have wificalling. To many pieces were missing from AOSP. It was like a damn treasure hunt. I'm going to stay stock for a bit since M is so stable and fluid. Battery life is more than I need. It's good to see that everything is merged again into a single build, if something groundbreaking or fun is developed I might start tinkering again
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I'm on the fence on rooting. at this point I only want to do it to raise the headphone levels. just for when I have to plug it into a stereo (which I do often) for now Im just using my N9 to plug in instead.
And yes I would still choose it. this is a damn good phone where there isn't much that i look at other devices and wish I had..
I have seen the Iphone 6s i would only want the fluidity of its camera app on my device. the camera app has improved but still has room to improve.
I am also in the fence about rooting. This phone runs beautifully. The only thing I really want root for is to run layers themes.
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