Intent of this thread:
This thread is created with the intent to expound on everyone's various Nexus 6 Kernel Settings, System Settings, Apps used, and what you are doing to get the most SOT (Screen On Time). Let's try to keep the thread as clean as possible and organized. The Best 5 SOT will be copied to a reserved space below and replaced with any SOT that beats it. Your best settings must not compromise performance beyond what is needed by the average user. Screenshots are highly encouraged when posted with final SOT prior to being put into slots of recognition.
Prerequisites to participate in thread:
You must be using the Motorola Nexus 6
Posting
When Posting try to always maintain your list of your current settings for others to see, always make sure you mention what kernel you're using, what rom you are using, and try to keep things in a clean list as shown in this example below:
Rom: Chroma
Kernel: Stock
SOT: 5h 20m
CPU
CPU MAX: 1958 MHz *
CPU MIN: 300 MHz *
CPU Gov: Interactive
CPU Boost: 0ms
Sync Threshold: Disabled
Input Interval: 0ms
Input Boost Frequency: 883MHz *
Wi-Fi
Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep: Always
This allows users to easily compare their settings to yours. Also if you wouldn't mind sharing what apps were listed in your top list of battery consumption that could also be beneficial for users looking to maximize SOT and overall battery life. SOT can vary on the habits of the user, so it's important to know what habits and apps are being ran to contribute to your overall SOT.
Example of app listing:
Consumption
Screen: 57%
Android System: 6%
Cell Standby: 5%
Automagic Premium: 5%
This will allow users to compare their app usage to other users and try to pin-point what takes up the most battery usage.
OUR GOALS
Maximize SOT
Maximize Overall Battery Life
Keep thread as clean and organized as possible.
Keep and maintain lists of our settings
Minimal amounts of comments to make things easy to navigate.
Keep things on topic.
Top 5 SOT
Reserved Space for Top 5 SOT List
i guess my 7.5 hour sot doesnt count as its not posted here? anyways, with real use and not just getting the highest sot thats possible kind of use, every single persons phone will differ. why? because every single person uses their phone differently. different apps, different processes, camera, flashlight, how bright i have my screen, among many other things. so, having any kind of sot just shows that you actually use the phone. and with my experience here on xda, im going to flat out say that this will be a foolish thread. and again, that said.. have fun
gsam says I have 4 hours and 45 minutes AVERAGE screen on time per complete charge since February. That is higher than I would have guessed from occasionally looking at my battery stats (I would have said 3.5 hours average). Maybe there are some subtleties in how that number is calculated.
Stock with franco kernel. 50% auto brightness. Dark themes everywhere with layers etc (although I've only had those dark themes over the last month)
Isn't screen brightness the key factor here?
Personally I gave up since I have such weak signal at my house. I usually get around 2 to 3 hours SOT but that's with around 80% brightness. Even if I lowered it, the radio would be top consumer.
A phone screen uses some battery but not a ton. Just look at some of the smartwatches out there that can get their screens left on for 8 hours or so on 300 mah batteries. Our screen on time is terrible because android is a totally inconsistent mess. That's why one day with similar usage the phone lasts forever and the next it's dead really fast.
Although iOS has it's flaws, it's greatest strengths are in consistency and resource management. That's why apple can make phones with batteries under 2000 mah, with 2gb of ram, and still be less laggy than android and have batter battery life. It's to bad Google won't just stop with their constant useless updates to the android os and spend a year focusing in only increasing efficiency of the os.
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A phone screen uses some battery but not a ton. Just look at some of the smartwatches out there that can get their screens left on for 8 hours or so on 300 mah batteries. Our screen on time is terrible because android is a totally inconsistent mess. That's why one day with similar usage the phone lasts forever and the next it's dead really fast.
Although iOS has it's flaws, it's greatest strengths are in consistency and resource management. That's why apple can make phones with batteries under 2000 mah, with 2gb of ram, and still be less laggy than android and have batter battery life. It's to bad Google won't just stop with their constant useless updates to the android os and spend a year focusing in only increasing efficiency of the os.
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the screen uses the most battery, period.
and your greatest problem isnt android, but how you set up and use your phone. as i have no issue with screen on time(get between 5-7h, 5h without any effort). nor do i have issues with lagginess, ever!
Im with Simms. I average 5-7 hours of sot also. I just use it and don't cripple the cpu. Killing cores & turning town frequencies only makes it work harder thus for using more battery. Its like a smart car , pathetic little engine only average 36 while your fully loaded Buick lesabre averages 33. Better power to weight ratio working the engine less. I turn CPU boost frequency up to 1728 and run it at 900-1000ms. Run CPU boost at 250ms with all 4 cores on always. Also turn go high speed load to 50% from 85%. Always running in beastmode. Cool & fast.
If people are soo worried about SOT to the tune of 5+ hours. Well really you need to get a life.
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If people are soo worried about SOT to the tune of 5+ hours. Well really you need to get a life.
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lol
i see at least 5h sot, thats why i do not worry at all about my n6 battery life. BUT.. there are many n6 owners/users that see less than 3.5h sot, which to me could indicate issues, with the phone OR the user(or just a terrible signal). anyways, i say let them have their fun experimenting and trying different things
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i see at least 5h sot, thats why i do not worry at all about my n6 battery life. BUT.. there are many n6 owners/users that see less than 3.5h sot, which to me could indicate issues, with the phone OR the user(or just a terrible signal). anyways, i say let them have their fun experimenting and trying different things
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Im lucky to get 2 hours of SOT. Hell I can kill the battery in less then that from full. I know the cause of the issue (which cant be fixed) but that is enough SOT for me. If I spent more then that with my nose in the phone my friends would toss my phone in the ocean lol
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Im lucky to get 2 hours of SOT. Hell I can kill the battery in less then that from full. I know the cause of the issue (which cant be fixed) but that is enough SOT for me. If I spent more then that with my nose in the phone my friends would toss my phone in the ocean lol
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2h sot?!?!
sounds like my g1(but i think it did better).
for me its my sales job, furniture. id say about 20% of my time actually gets used by work. all that other time ive got to do something, and i dont play games. so, i spend a lot of time reading. but i also keep my brightness down really low..
simms22 said:
2h sot?!?!
sounds like my g1(but i think it did better).
for me its my sales job, furniture. id say about 20% of my time actually gets used by work. all that other time ive got to do something, and i dont play games. so, i spend a lot of time reading. but i also keep my brightness down really low..
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Yeah. Signal here is weak at best so the radio kills my battery no matter the device. Heck you lose all signal once you leave town
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zelendel said:
Yeah. Signal here is weak at best so the radio kills my battery no matter the device. Heck you lose all signal once you leave town
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You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
Formhault said:
You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
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Well majority of the time I was reading in Kindle app. Otherwise I won't go beyond 4 hours SOT on an average. It's Android N that m running, no custom theme.
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sandip_909 said:
Well majority of the time I was reading in Kindle app. Otherwise I won't go beyond 4 hours SOT on an average.
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Hmm... So your battery life is similar to what I get.
sandip_909 said:
It's Android N that m running, no custom theme.
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Oh, that's why the Battery usage screen looks different. Okay.
Formhault said:
You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
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I already know it's my signal. Have been testing it for almost a year to find the issues. Being in America is a relative term. Where I live signal is not the best and when I leave town you lose signal all together for hundreds of miles.
Mine has been getting worse and worse as time goes by. No matter the ROM or kernel or brightness or signal. The note 7 better be a real nice phone cuz I can't make it to the next Nexus.
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OKAY. As many of you know, I used to be pissed about my battery life until I hit the gold mine with one of raven's 800 kernels. Even after trying 10 of them, only recently did one of them hit the spot for my phone. As most know, the higher the battery temperature, traditionally - the higher the battery drain. I noticed that most of the YouTube videos where people are showing off their N1s didn't have cases on their phones. Now, I regularly use two different cases: A seidio snap and one of the gel-like hard/flexible cases. Recently, I have been using the gel one. I also have a friend that I work with whose phone on the same setup and same kernel gets half the battery life that I do and she is using the snap right now. This morning, I flashed Raven's new 800 kernel AND switched my case to the Snap. If you saw my posts, I got roughly 35 hours of light-moderate use and still had 19% left a few days ago on his 800 from 5/04. After upgrading the kernel, my battery was better than stock, but not great (losing about 3%/hour). I just took off the Snap case and am flying naked right now and think I've already seen an increase in battery life. Obviously, it is too soon to tell. That being said, I'm a computer guy, not a physics guy and I don't know the thermodynamics of the material. I can say that the Seidio Snap has a felt lining and is plastic which I think traps more heat. You guys may tell me I'm nuts but I'm posting a poll to see. Now, I know everything is going to be a little subjective, especially the word "moderate"; however, I think most people contributing in the kernel threads have a solid understanding of the general consensus of the word. Sorry if the poll didn't include every option but I'm just curious.
<10 hour battery life is not crap. With moderate use that's what u get.
Can't vote in this poll.
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<10 hour battery life is not crap. With moderate use that's what u get.
Can't vote in this poll.
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I considerate moderate use around 30 minutes total web browsing, 10-30 texts, <1 hr of phone usage and a few e-mails. Even the iPhone can go longer than that (and I hate the iPhone). Also, coming from someone now on 800AVS kernels that can finally get over a day, 10 hours is not very good.
I found the difference between nekkid and a rubber/felt case to be neglegable if any.
Conversely I found some apps to be bad about it when it comes to waking the phone for refreshing data or keeping the system awake (or more awake) even after the display is off. My biggest battery gains were in curtailing a few apps. ymmv, best of luck.
10 Hour moderate use is ok.
But i get double that...
Recently testing the GSM Auto (PRL) mod and it seems to boost my phone considerably.
Unhooked it yesterday at 8.00 PM went for my night shift.
At work i have used it for 20 min. Music and 20-25 min of surfing and nothing else. The rest of the time it has been on standby.
Is now almost 8.00 am. 12 hour has passed and is at 73% left discharging.
Here is my hacks and settings:
ROM: CyanogenMod 5.0.6-N1
Baseband: 2.6.24.00.22U-4.03.00.21_2 (unchanged)
Kernel: 2.6.33.2 CyanogenMod [email protected] #1
Build: EPE54B
Radio is unchaged.. using what came with it.
HACKS:
The GSM Auto (PRL) mod. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670999
Beautiful Widget apk
Custom theme Cyanogen 5.0.6 theme with HelixLauncher2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656868
Bluetooth, Wifi, GPS & Dataroaming are OFF at all times unless i need them
SYNC is constantly OFF always!!!
Brightness is at 1-13 %, and i just boost it if i need it.
Keep in mind im a light phone user. I mostly use my N1 for data service.
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SYNC is constantly OFF always!!!
Brightness is at 1-13 %, and i just boost it if i need it.
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Honestly, I don't think kernel has anything to do with your battery life. At least not much.
I constantly PUSH 2 email accounts (never turn it off), I always have WiFi, BT, 3G and GPS on. I never turn them off. My brightness is at least at 75%, sometimes at 100%.
I constantly check up on Pocket Empires (game) for about 2-3 minutes every 1-2 hours.. do about 10 min calls.. check engadget, browse xda through an app a little..
And I get 10 hours. If I set brightness/sync like you, I'd probably get that battery life too. I got Cyan 5.x (latest), Amon recovery, stock kernel, stock radio.
I'm happy with my batt life, I can always swap to another battery that's always charged on the dock.. but I use the phone to its fullest and never have to wait for gps/mail/wifi.
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Even the iPhone can go longer than that (and I hate the iPhone).
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Didn't think that I'd have to point out that iPhone has a 600MHz processor, 480x320 weak-ass screen and it only has 1 app running at a time?
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<10 hour battery life is not crap. With moderate use that's what u get.
Can't vote in this poll.
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I agree 100%. (Except I drive an Evo, not an STI)...
I get ~10 hours and that's just fine and as I would expect for this phone.
I am delighted that some people get more, but their experience is the exception, not the rule.
Can anyone tell me why the Android phones have battery life issues? Here's a scenario...my friend has an iphone, i have the fascinate. We both put our phones in our locker in the morning for work. We both come out for break and he still has well over 90% of battery life while mine is down to 70%. Why do the android phones drain so quickly. Yes I could put it in airplane mode and such but my friend doesn't have to on his Iphone.
Just wondering why these phones have such a tough time with battery life. I notice in a lot of the forums people are trying different things to get better battery life. I have tried different roms, kernels, radios, etc...and really don't notice a huge difference. I am not a heavy user of my phone and it lasts just about the day and dies. I may hit the net for few mins, do some texting, and check email from time to time. I would think the battery should last a couple days just doing this...not drain when the phone is just sitting idle. Anyway just wondering about this.
Apple has complete control over their phones. Designed in house, software developed in house, and carriers have no say in the software.
I have a feeling that has a lot to do with it.
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Which ROM? Of course you are aware of the many workarounds needed to keep froyo idle drain under control? These will eventually be fixed for good.
I have even more of a complaint about the active screen-on drain. Using auto brightness indoors, its impossible to get more than 2.5-3.0 hours of screen time. (WIFI or 3g) This is way less than iphone 4's capability of around 8 hours. There are some things that help explain it like androids 100% cpu usage when scrolling or animating the UI. However, there must be massive differences in the screen power consumption. Yea, yea, SAMOLED, power draw depends heavily on displaying black vs. white etc, but my random usage never gets more than about 2.5 hours screen usage over a day. Say what you will about apple, but they optimized the hell out of battery life.
Which kernel are you using? After moderate usage for me (games, browsing web with wifi, phone calls, etc) my battery life is around 70% after 15 hours.
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Which kernel are you using? After moderate usage for me (games, browsing web with wifi, phone calls, etc) my battery life is around 70% after 15 hours.
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Guys, since screen-on time dominates battery usage, it'd be nice to note how much screen-on time you get and your brightness setting. Defining "light" usage over a number of hours could mean just about anything... very subjective.
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Guys, since screen-on time dominates battery usage, it'd be nice to note how much screen-on time you get and your brightness setting. Defining "light" usage over a number of hours could mean just about anything... very subjective.
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True enough. I set my light to auto and since im usually in a room, the light setting is at lowest. When im outside, its goes to the brightest settings.
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Can anyone tell me why the Android phones have battery life issues? Here's a scenario...my friend has an iphone, i have the fascinate. We both put our phones in our locker in the morning for work. We both come out for break and he still has well over 90% of battery life while mine is down to 70%. Why do the android phones drain so quickly. Yes I could put it in airplane mode and such but my friend doesn't have to on his Iphone.
Just wondering why these phones have such a tough time with battery life. I notice in a lot of the forums people are trying different things to get better battery life. I have tried different roms, kernels, radios, etc...and really don't notice a huge difference. I am not a heavy user of my phone and it lasts just about the day and dies. I may hit the net for few mins, do some texting, and check email from time to time. I would think the battery should last a couple days just doing this...not drain when the phone is just sitting idle. Anyway just wondering about this.
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Iphone pretty much have more or less the same battery life problems.
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There are some things that help explain it like androids 100% cpu usage when scrolling or animating the UI. However, there must be massive differences in the screen power consumption. Yea, yea, SAMOLED, power draw depends heavily on displaying black vs. white etc, but my random usage never gets more than about 2.5 hours screen usage over a day. Say what you will about apple, but they optimized the hell out of battery life.
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If you use Google Navigation and constantly force rerouting to destination by taking wrong turn/path, your 100% charged phone would hit empty within 2HRs or less with the screen brightness set at minimum.
Anandtech reveiw of several real world tests shows iphone 4 smokes the fascinate bad. Not even close.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3957/samsung-fascinate-review-verizons-galaxy-s-smartphone/8
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Anandtech reveiw of several real world tests shows iphone 4 smokes the fascinate bad. Not even close.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3957/samsung-fascinate-review-verizons-galaxy-s-smartphone/8
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We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
Android is made to constantly sync with the internet for updates and notifications. It's just the nature of the operating system to draw a lot of power because in theory it is a more powerful and complicated system. Also keep in mind that the battery inside an iPhone is huge and it is lithium polymer which lasts longer but is more expensive. These larger lithium polymer batteries are the main reason iPads and MacBooks get good battery life as well as their less powerful chip sets.
EDIT: Oh, and also iOS doesn't use as much RAM as Android so that also factors in to the battery life being generally better.
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We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
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Dunno about you but my Fascinate get's poor signal compared to other phones. Also slower network speeds.
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We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
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I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
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I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
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It's unfortunately that the Fascinate lacks the monthly software update support similar to Apple, but using the support from this forum by the devs, I had achieved 1% power usage for every 3 hour idled = max possible 300 HRS.
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Android is made to constantly sync with the internet for updates and notifications. It's just the nature of the operating system to draw a lot of power because in theory it is a more powerful and complicated system. Also keep in mind that the battery inside an iPhone is huge and it is lithium polymer which lasts longer but is more expensive. These larger lithium polymer batteries are the main reason iPads and MacBooks get good battery life as well as their less powerful chip sets.
EDIT: Oh, and also iOS doesn't use as much RAM as Android so that also factors in to the battery life being generally better.
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Guys, there's a lot of android fanboy propaganda going on in here. I'm not against android, but don't automatically defend it like its your mama. The ifixit link below shows iphone 4 has 1420 mah battery as opposed to fascinates 1500 mah. They also both have 512 MB RAM. So that's not the issue.
Also, the Anandtech tests were done with phone on and active. So are you trying to explain android was at a disadvantage because it was "doing things in the background"? Like what? Any background process or sync service that kills your battery that bad is implemented horribly. iOS is doing the important stuff in the background too... maybe just not the ESPN or weather widget. But no one in their right mind believes those things are the problem.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1
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I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
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Sadly, I am the opposite of an android fanboy as I would have gotten the iphone for verizon asap if I havent gotten the fascinate back at November. (Iphone on Verizon were still rumors back then). Also note that review was done in October last year. Battery life is probably much better now with cleaned roms and froyo.
If you really need to browse the web over 4 hours a day on your phone (use computer?), why not just get a larger battery or even get the iphone?
Edit: Hardware mean a lot in battery usage. After checking the iphones CPU, seems like its pretty much the same or similar to the ones of the fascinate, except slower clock speeds.
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Sadly, I am the opposite of an android fanboy as I would have gotten the iphone for verizon asap if I havent gotten the fascinate back at November. (Iphone on Verizon were still rumors back then). Also note that review was done in October last year. Battery life is probably much better now with cleaned roms and froyo.
If you really need to browse the web over 4 hours a day on your phone (use computer?), why not just get a larger battery or even get the iphone?
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Personally I don't get any better battery life from froyo ROMS. My wife's fascinate with stock eclair usually gets as many if not more hours of screen time as I get with superclean 2.9.2 and jt's EC10 w/ slight undervolt. Sometimes I get much worse battery life when I forget to activate one of the 10 workaround hacks still needed to fix the idle drain issue.
I use 2.5 hours of screen time daily quite often and find my battery exhausted before the day is over. Maybe I'm the rare case, but I doubt it.
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Dunno about you but my Fascinate get's poor signal compared to other phones. Also slower network speeds.
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Verizon is pretty much known for its slower network speeds compared to AT&T. I do get pretty good signal, overall.
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Personally I don't get any better battery life from froyo ROMS. My wife's fascinate with stock eclair usually gets as many if not more hours of screen time as I get with superclean 2.9.2 and jt's EC10 w/ slight undervolt. Sometimes I get much worse battery life when I forget to activate one of the 10 workaround hacks still needed to fix the idle drain issue.
I use 2.5 hours of screen time daily quite often and find my battery exhausted before the day is over. Maybe I'm the rare case, but I doubt it.
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My battery life with imnuts undervolted kernel is much better than ones from previous EB01 kernels. I didnt find much difference between SC 2.9.2 ROM and Nameless V3 battery with the same kernel. I usually have around 75-50 percent battery life left from moderate usage. (Different from other people according to screen brightness and etc as stated in previous posts)
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My battery life with imnuts undervolted kernel is much better than ones from previous EB01 kernels. I didnt find much difference between SC 2.9.2 ROM and Nameless V3 battery with the same kernel. I usually have around 75-50 percent battery life left from moderate usage. (Different from other people according to screen brightness and etc as stated in previous posts)
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Under battery details, what is your display "time on" at end of your day? What is Max "time on" you ever got? Without those numbers its hard to say anything objectively.
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Under battery details, what is your display "time on" at end of your day? What is Max "time on" you ever got? Without those numbers its hard to say anything objectively.
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Since its monday tomorrow, ill test the max time on. At the end of the day, or rather when I start charging it again/installing kernels or roms, time on is 14 hours and 17 minutes.
On my fascinate I unplug phone at 645 check face book and xda for about a hour on auto brightness. I then go to school and check pulse and xda many times totaling around 2 hours. The rest of the time is idle so after 2-3 hours of screen time and then 3-4 hours of idle during the school day I get home with 85-89% left im using dark revenge with imnuts undervolted kernel. Im no android fanboy I'm just posting my stats.
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I've had this phone for around week (off craigslist so it's been broken in) and I can't seem to get any sort of good battery life from this device. I mean yeah it's ok, max I've gotten is 2.5 hours sot with 10-12 hr standby.
This screen is from today so far. I'm already down to 40% and not even at 2 hrs sot yet. What's going on? I've tried Franco's kernel, fauxs kernel, and now I'm on matr1x kernel. (all with undervolting) I've tried carbon, stock, and now I'm on rasenjb.
I don't think I'll ever get to these 5 and 6 hour sot times with a day and a half of standby everyone is getting.. I bought this device because of how good the battery life I saw everyone was getting and it's been a big disappointment so far. I've tried almost everything and that's why I made this thread. Does anyone have any suggestions?
That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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I've seen a lot of screen shots with 4hrs + though. I guess it's only achievable on WiFi. I'm on HSPA+ for 8 hours of the day and then I come home and there's WiFi. So I'm guessing data is draining my battery throughout the day like a hog. Maybe I'll try out that screen off 2G mod that I saw. Thanks for your input!
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6 hours+ sot easy....
google now off
low brightness
nfc etc off (go through all settings and turn all unecessary crap off)
double check settings/google/accountname.gmail .. make sure music sync is off/unticked
use wifi only or 2g if you must (set 2g only anyway even when on wifi, stops the phone switching towers all the time)
use custom kernel and undervolt (optional) ..most come standard with a bit of undevolt already
don't have lots of apps syncing all the time.. facebook ect
use aosp browser or similar and not chrome
don't use live wallpapers
don't play heavy games , use mostly for messaging and browsing
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6 hours+ sot easy....
google now off
low brightness
nfc etc off (go through all settings and turn all unecessary crap off)
double check settings/google/accountname.gmail .. make sure music sync is off/unticked
use wifi only or 2g if you must (set 2g only anyway even when on wifi, stops the phone switching towers all the time)
use custom kernel and undervolt (optional) ..most come standard with a bit of undevolt already
don't have lots of apps syncing all the time.. facebook ect
use aosp browser or similar and not chrome
don't use live wallpapers
don't play heavy games , use mostly for messaging and browsing
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Might as well buy a Nokia 1611 then
Might have to see how PA is on battery life..
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ingenious247 said:
That's because everyone liked to install custom kernels, underclock, never use their phone like a normal phone and then claim 5 hours SOT which is total BS.
Expect 10-12 hours with 3 hours SOT, that's normal. I've gotten way better than that but only when connected to Wifi and almost no actual phone calls. Anytime you're on the cellular network expect 10-12 hours tops
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Don't be hating because you are in a poor signal area. I get 6hrs sot on wifi and at least 4hrs on hspa+. If you are in an area that is a weaker signal, like 3g and edge with only one bar, sot will be less. I am stock rooted, including kernel. If a person doesn't use the phone the battery will last a long time, but the sot will also be low. For example, 24hrs of battery life with only one hour of sot pretty much means the phone was just laying there and barely used. On the other hand, 10hrs of battery life with 5hrs of screen time means the phone was used much and faired good. Apart from sot, cell signal is the biggest battery drainer. When I go to my sis-in-laws, which is a very weak area, my battery steadily drains with my phone just in my pocket. *edit* I should also note, when at home on wifi, I'm also on my Microcell, so I always have a strong signal.
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I usually get between 2.5 and 3.5 hours screen on time. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. You can use better battery stats to diagnose and try to kill unnecessary wakelocks. And yes you can under clock and sacrifice functionality, but rest assured 5-6 hours sot is not typical, even if some people can achieve it on a regular basis.
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Don't be hating because you are in a poor signal area. I get 6hrs sot on wifi and at least 4hrs on hspa+. If you are in an area that is a weaker signal, like 3g and edge with only one bar, sot will be less. I am stock rooted, including kernel. If a person doesn't use the phone the battery will last a long time, but the sot will also be low. For example, 24hrs of battery life with only one hour of sot pretty much means the phone was just laying there and barely used. On the other hand, 10hrs of battery life with 5hrs of screen time means the phone was used much and faired good. Apart from sot, cell signal is the biggest battery drainer. When I go to my sis-in-laws, which is a very weak area, my battery steadily drains with my phone just in my pocket. *edit* I should also note, when at home on wifi, I'm also on my Microcell, so I always have a strong signal.
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Nobody's hating. But somebody IS lying.
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Nobody's hating. But somebody IS lying.
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Are you referring to me? Lying about what? You don't think I can get 6hrs sot on wifi and my microcell. You don't think I can get 4hrs sot on mobile data cellular signal? Those figures are fairly common and I have posted screen shots before. Or maybe you don't believe that a poor signal will drain battery more? Do some research. http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=2817363
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Signal
Yeah! Its true. Poor signal make your phone drain more battery.
If in your carrier the 2G signal is better than 3G. Set the phone to use only 2G network. (GSM)
Put this in the phone app: *#*#4636#*#* and see the difference.
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Are you referring to me? Lying about what? You don't think I can get 6hrs sot on wifi and my microcell. You don't think I can get 4hrs sot on mobile data cellular signal? Those figures are fairly common and I have posted screen shots before. Or maybe you don't believe that a poor signal will drain battery more? Do some research. http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=2817363
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You're not talking about real world usage. Nobody uses their phone like that. It's people like you that come into threads where regular users with genuine concerns and questions get ridiculed by some guy who has his "phone" set up like some friggin science project talking about 5-6 hours SOT.
Google Search: Nexus 4 poor battery life
About 12,600,000 results (0.19 seconds)
Google Search: Galaxy S3 poor battery life
About 6,310,000 results(0.24 seconds)
^that's half of the results and the S3 has been out way longer with millions more users/owners
Obviously the Nexus 4 has a sub-par battery for today's standards. Case closed.
I answered his question with real life facts, and you're in here spinning fairy tales feeding a delusion that he can go about using his phone like a normal person and get 5-6 hours SOT.
So yeah, you're lying IMO.
Having a poor signal doesn't cut SOT by 4 hours.
Yes, I forget, I'm not using my phone in the real world when I'm working on my science project. Lol. Sorry buddy, but I did unlock my bootloader and root in order to transfer app data from my previous phone, but I am running the stock rom, even odexed version, and stock kernel. I have syncing, nfc, wifi, and gps always enabled. The only thing I don't keep on is Google Now because I don't use it. If you bothered to look closely at the screen shots, you would see the constant strong signal due to my Microcell. When on a weaker cellular signal, it cuts into my sot. I use a Microcell because without it, I get a really crummy signal, so I know firsthand what battery drain is like. And as I stated, on cellular only, I get 4-5hrs screen time, worse if I'm in a really poor location. Idk where you get this 4hr difference from.
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I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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Also, watch your background apps, Facebook and Google maps have caused battery drain for some people.
username8611 said:
I usually get around 3.5 - 4 on Franco m2 and carbon Rom browsing the internet on WiFi. No other weird settings, all sync on. It's closer to about 3 doing the same on mobile data. Playing games will toast my battery. I'm still plenty satisfied with my battery life.
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Also, watch your background apps, Facebook and Google maps have caused battery drain for some people.
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I uninstalled facebook. Also Google maps, Google search and most of the other common battery drainers are on greenify. I've come to the conclusion that my mobile data radio is the biggest drainer. Would upgrading my radio offer a more efficient battery life? (I've never upgraded a radio on any of my devices before)
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I uninstalled facebook. Also Google maps, Google search and most of the other common battery drainers are on greenify. I've come to the conclusion that my mobile data radio is the biggest drainer. Would upgrading my radio offer a more efficient battery life? (I've never upgraded a radio on any of my devices before)
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It probably is low signal strength killing your battery, I should have thrown in the fact that 90% of the time I have full signal. Flashing a radio is no biggie, just dont be stupid about it and kill power halfway through the flash. No need to wipe anything either. I think i saw some recovery flashable ones around here, but i like to use fastboot whenever possible. .48 is the latest official radio, with .54 coming from an international white n4. I'm on .48 and holding off until .54 becomes official before deciding to test it out, since .48 is golden for me. Test all of them, older doesnt mean worse and some people have better luck with the older radios.
It may not be relevant to your experience, but I was disappointed initially in N4's battery life too. Even after dialing down most automatic syncing, being very conservative with screen brightness, and other standard measures.
I installed wake lock detector. In my case, Dropbox was at the top of the list, with an inordinate # of system wake ups.
Turned out a copy of Dropbox on another machine on the same network was, with the 'LAN Sync' option enabled by default, sending out gobs of wake-on-lan packets and was waking up the N4 very often; something that would happen even without Dropbox on the N4, presumably.
Disabling Dropbox's LAN sync seemed to bump my battery life ~20-30%.
Google told me 10 - 12 hours continuous useage. I haven't had anything like that from mine.
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It probably is low signal strength killing your battery, I should have thrown in the fact that 90% of the time I have full signal. Flashing a radio is no biggie, just dont be stupid about it and kill power halfway through the flash. No need to wipe anything either. I think i saw some recovery flashable ones around here, but i like to use fastboot whenever possible. .48 is the latest official radio, with .54 coming from an international white n4. I'm on .48 and holding off until .54 becomes official before deciding to test it out, since .48 is golden for me. Test all of them, older doesnt mean worse and some people have better luck with the older radios.
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Thanks for the info! How do I check which radio version I have?
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Why are you fairies arguing?
I got my n4 yesterday and battery seems decent. I was listening to spotify while driving and spent about 1.5 hours in the gym listening to it as well. Also throughout the day was messaging, Facebook, twitter etc. Not heavily, but every once in a while. I'm satisfied.
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Now that the masses are receiving their devices and it officially launched at Tmo stores nationwide (well most) how about some battery life experiences?
We all know all too well how battery life can vary and there is NO real way to measure except to give our individual results. Please keep in mind that trying to compare your battery life to another is futile
KISS keep it simple. Give approximates, don't be anal like me (or be specific it's okay)!
Just name your provider and if root/unlock, # of apps installed, WiFi vs Cellular percentage, average cell strength, SOT (screen on time) and whether or not using adaptive brightness and at what %, your typical usage (how you used your phone including GPS usage, talk time, and streaming), and a couple of screenies showing what ya got.
I'll start it off with my first day with the phone. I charged it to 92% and have had it off since ~11:30AM today.
T-Mobile stock no root no unlock
55 apps
WiFi 80% Cellular 20%
105dBm average
SOT is 2hr 55min with 50% battery left. Adaptive brightness ON always @ 50%
Ambient OFF
Syncing all Google apps, I use GNow, 2 push email, and weather every hour. I text and browse web throughout the day and talked on phone ~20min. GPS on battery save
For my first cycle I'm very pleased!
That's about the same as my moto x, so average?
Here's my moto x (2013) battery usage.
Auto brightness, 2-3 bars most of the day on Sprint's network. YouTube, monument valley, reddit, browser, gmail, twitter, bluetooth, locations, google now, and other apps.
On target for 6 hours SOT. It probably wont make it to 6 but 5+ is my bare minimum so it looks like you will make it without any issues. After the kernels and tweaks come I believe we can hit 7 hours or close to it.
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That's about the same as my moto x, so average?
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I don't know, it's my first cycle & day with the phone (in the OP ^).
Throughout my many years with Android this will increase quite a bit after a few charge/discharge cycles.
It is a large MotoX after all
seh6183 said:
On target for 6 hours SOT. It probably wont make it to 6 but 5+ is my bare minimum so it looks like you will make it without any issues. After the kernels and tweaks come I believe we can hit 7 hours or close to it.
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I believe we'll hit 7 without tweaks or kernels. I'm feeling confident
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I believe we'll hit 7 without tweaks or kernels. I'm feeling confident
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That would be great, plus google can always release more patches.
I'm on pace to hit about 4 hours of SOT. Using WiFi only right now as my local LTE signal is worse on the nexus vs my 6+, which us shocking BC I remember motorola having great radios back when I was an avid android user. I do love both platforms so no bias here at all lol. Love this nexus and where android stands with lollipop. Probably going to stick with my 6+ as my primary for now. I really wish we could see SOT for the 6+ BC it is an absolute BEAST in that area. I can't run the dang thing down unless I try and even then it is exhausting. For you recent android users, what is the typical SOT these days for the phones with such big batteries and high res screens? Is it really the screen that kills the batteries so quickly in comparison to the lower res screen on the iPhone phablet?
My first full charge since I got the phone early this morning and I'm at 2 hours sot at 70%. Brightness is at about 90% with adaptive on. Watched a few utube bids and browsed around all on 4g
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When people are posting SOT I would like to also know whether adaptive brightness is being used or not. I'll gladly post some screenshots in the coming days once my battery gets a few cycles on it.
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uhguy said:
When people are posting SOT I would like to also know whether adaptive brightness is being used or not. I'll gladly post some screenshots in the coming days once my battery gets a few cycles on it.
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Great point I'll add that thanks :good:
Mine is activated on verizon and i feel like im having excessive battery drain.
My first full discharge had over 3 hours of screen on time and went from early afternoon to the next morning. How are people getting 6 hours?
Today i charged it up when i returned home from work. Only a few hours on the battery and only 48 minutes of screen time so far on this discharge and I'm at 70% as of writing this post through the phone. Adaptive brightness is off and the brightness has been set low (1/4th brightness or less depending on light, with screenfilter on to make it dimmer than normal when needed). Also, data is off and only wifi is on for data. Ok google detection is on though and i noticed recently that its not taking my commands with the screen off even though its set to.
Finally, the thing gets very hot when using it, especially when charging.
Edit: picture of the battery stats the morning after I made this post. It's nice that the battery practically flat lines at night when I also turn off cell data and WiFi. However, something is waking my phone and I don't know what it is, maybe its auto sync. I can't seem to figure out how to turn off auto sync with android 5.0 so I can test that.
I think it is better also to specify how much percentage of the adaptive brightness.
Because you can set it to 100% or lower, like 30%.
That would affect the battery, no?
gogol said:
I think it is better also to specify how much percentage of the adaptive brightness.
Because you can set it to 100% or lower, like 30%.
That would affect the battery, no?
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Yes I believe it would, thanks!
On my third discharge with WiFi only and brightness maybe 1/4 inch turned up from all the way down. Ambient display on. Not sure my battery life is up to par.
If I need to an anymore info just let me know. Haven't been on Android in a minute.
What's up with this guys?
DrexelDragon said:
What's up with this guys?
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Looks like a graph. I think they all come with it.
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donnyp1 said:
Looks like a graph. I think they all come with it.
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Thanks.. I'm talking about Google services and Search being #1.
DrexelDragon said:
What's up with this guys?
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When you click on GServices what is your keep awake time, cpu foreground and total times?
Do you have location reporting set to ON?
jbdan said:
When you click on GServices what is your keep awake time, cpu foreground and total times?
Do you have location reporting set to ON?
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Yes reporting on - Keep Awake: 26m, CPU fg: 1s, CPU total: 5m 47s
DrexelDragon said:
Yes reporting on - Keep Awake: 26m, CPU fg: 1s, CPU total: 5m 47s
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Do you use the reporting on feature? Those look somewhat normal
This poll is to help everyone better understand what the average screen-on-time for Nexus 5X users is.
Please vote in the poll and share what you were doing with your device and what sort of settings you have changed (disabling system apps, Greenify, etc).
I don't mess with any battery saver type apps and I get 4 hours SOT consistently. The only time I don't is when I end up having 3-4 hours of phone calls.
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I voted 2-3 only because I don't use my phone that much
Giving this a bump because I think it's very useful. Hope more people vote.
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Lets just say if I can get 2hrs I'll be happier.... I usually get 1-1.5hrs and can get 2.5 if I disable bluetooth, location, and have adaptive brightness off with the display at 0 brightness. My phone is a unicorn of bad battery life
I've been getting 2-3 only and I am NOT very happy with this. I'm really considering strongly to send it back. I don't want the stress of my Phone not lasting me all day with the usage that I want. I don't want to need to live tethered to a charger.
I voted 4-5, but am a light user compared to most people I know, so that's well over a 24 hour period. I do believe if I used the phone as much as I used too, and most people I know do, I'd easily be close to 6.
ChristianBale said:
... share what you were doing with your device and what sort of settings you have changed (disabling system apps, Greenify, etc).
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Settings & apps usually have far less to do with SOT than use habits. If you want huge SOT, charge your phone to 100% and read a Kindle book in the dark with screen brightness turned down as far as possible until the battery dies. If you want lousy SOT, leave the phone off most of the day, then play a graphics-intensive FPS in full sunlight for an hour. An app syncing in the background every 15 minutes isn't going to have nearly as much impact.
My first day with the Nexus 5X game me just shy of four hours of SoT. 3 hours and 40 minutes to be exact. Mostly reddit and texting.
I'm not voting because of course the battery completely depends on the that day's specific usage and there's no options for multiple votes.
But I can tell you that my results so far have been 3 hours SoT with my heaviest usage (low signal mobile data with some gaming thrown in) and 5-6 hours SoT on more normal days (good signal, WiFi). A noticeable improvement over the N5 in as I do not have to disable software features to obtain these results.
I'll be posting more results in the Battery Life thread over time but you can see my first shared results below (50% brightness, all software features enabled except Locations).
http://imgur.com/a/gVuT3
http://imgur.com/a/xjSTe
bblzd said:
I'm not voting because of course the battery completely depends on the that day's specific usage and there's no options for multiple votes.
But I can tell you that my results so far have been 3 hours SoT with my heaviest usage (low signal mobile data with some gaming thrown in) and 5-6 hours SoT on more normal days (good signal, WiFi). A noticeable improvement over the N5 in as I do not have to disable software features to obtain these results.
I'll be posting more results in the Battery Life thread over time but you can see my first shared results below (50% brightness, all software features enabled except Locations).
http://imgur.com/a/gVuT3
http://imgur.com/a/xjSTe
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The poll is used to record your average SoT throughout multiple days. So let's say I got 4 hours on day and 2 hours the next then my average would be 3.
It looks like the average SOT is just under 4 hours but there is a surprisingly large variance. Most people are near the average but the results are more spread out than I would have guessed. I wonder why there is such a big difference in the battery life people experience.
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After a week of me owning this phone, I average a little over 3 hours of SOT but I like running my phone screens at near full brightness. This screen gets much, much brighter than my M9 so I usually run the screen at like 80% brightness and adaptive brightness.
However, I recently discovered that SMS, MMS and calls still work when Wifi is enabled during airplane mode. So hopefully this has a positive effect on battery life when I'm home, at a friend's house, or at work (90% of my life).
Mountainfisher said:
I voted 2-3 only because I don't use my phone that much
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Which points out the fact that the only measurement this poll will accurately show is how long most people look at their screens before they need to charge. It really can't be used to draw any realistic conclusions about 5X battery life. I answered 4-5h based on my experience over the last week, and this level of usage always required daily charging. But over the last 2 days, I made a point to try to reduce SOT and right now it's looking like I'll go nearly 3 days before I need a charge.
For me the phone will last alright when I don't touch it (with the exception of the occasional weak cell area) but as soon as I turn the screen on, the battery drops really fast. Ive been averaging about 2 hrs SOT which is disappointing because that's about the same as my n5.
After a week I'm averaging around two to three hours. Doze seems to not be working correctly. Oh well.
With N DP3, 5-6 hours should be the average on heavy usage and 7+ for light to medium
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Ok,i think you don't use your phones!
All day open
4G,wifi,location saving battery,messenger,whatsup,viber,facebook,instagram,skype,tmbrl,gmail 3 accounts(about 20-30 mails per day),4 ebanking accounts use them very much.Also minimum 1 hour calls.
Games,
candy crash and subway surfers
I use gps too rarely.
210 apps installed to my phone as i see into titanium
stock rom,elemental x kernel,profile,until now i can't decide which is the best.
with extra heavy use i get 2 hours,usually 2:30-3:15 i have see also 4-5 but i didn't use my phone