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What Surprised Me After the 2.1 Update

Hey,
I've had my Unlocked European HTC Hero since the first week it was released. Even though there was quite a delay in the release of 2.1 (non rooted), I'm pretty happy. Some interesting things:
1) I received the OTA notification at a time when I did not want to update so I chose to "update later." In order to force the update later, I set the clock forward as people suggested. That worked just fine and the phone updated no problem. However, the time was set back to 1980. It was at that point I noticed the Market wasn't working. Once I set the clock back to real time, it did work. Just a note in case you did that.
2) I was actually surprised that almost everything was retained during the upgrade. I have previously flashed with some of the 1.5 Roms (official only) and it always wiped out everything. Even all my apps remained installed, though quite a few needed updates
3) FINALLY the compass works in Google Maps. When the Hero first came out everyone complained that the iPhone compass worked (with Gmaps) but not on Android. I must have missed the announcement that it was now working on Android and what an awesome surprise.
4) FINALLY we have Google search by voice. I love it. However, I understand that you are supposed to be able to use voice as input for any text box (composing email, sms, etc). How do you do that? There is no microphone button available. Do I need an app?
5) Google navigation works like a charm although it seems a bit laggy. Sometimes I have already turned before the map moves. Still - very slick. One question: Where is Car Home?
6) I though there was supposed to be a nifty new 3D Gallery like Cool Iris. Where is that?
7) Voice Search is al little strange to me. The window with results is not really a browser. When you click on a result, it opens in a new window, which is nice. But , how do you get back to the search results? It is not one of the open windows?
All in all, pretty cool stuff.

5)car home is an AOSP thing, so it is not available on sense roms. instead you get an app called "navigator" which is similar.
6) Gallery 3d is also AOSP, and not in htc sense roms. It is however in pretty much all custom sense roms, such as villain 12.

I used the goldcard image to downgrade my tmobile and now have upgraded to official 2.1 rom. I have to say i'm quite underwhelmed with the upgrade. Google navigation is nice but does lag a little. I have to admit my hero does not appear much snappier than when it was running 1.5. On the plus side I don't have to see the annoying tmobile logo when the phone boots up.

CyberWalrus,
I'm not sure I understand AOSP? You mean it is a choice to not include those features?
You mentioned an app called "Navigator." I don't see that anywhere.

clobber said:
CyberWalrus,
I'm not sure I understand AOSP? You mean it is a choice to not include those features?
You mentioned an app called "Navigator." I don't see that anywhere.
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stock, unmodified, pure android. The one that the nexus one, the G1, and the magic run. Gallery and Car home are features of AOSP android
HTC roms have HTC sense android. they dont have gallery 3d because htc presumably thinks its own "photos" app is better.
I am running villain 12, rather than the stock htc rom, so I have gallery 3d ported over anyway.
But the navigator app may be from the desire, and therefore only available on custom roms.

Seriously none of you are freaked out by the new bootscreen...
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It scares me!

Can anyone help me with issue 4? How do I use voice input for any text box?

AFAIK you can choose it as a keyboard type.
settings -> locale&text -> Touch Input -> keyboard types
But I think there is a button on the keyboard, which is to change settings. You could use that to change keyboard type.

But none of the keyboard types are "voice" or anything like that.

clobber said:
But none of the keyboard types are "voice" or anything like that.
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I seem to remember that was one of the things that HTC were leaving out of their roms. Not sure if anyone on 2.1 on any htc handsets has it.
There may be an apk kicking around for it , but again, this is from a distant memory since it wasn't relevant for me as 2.anything was a distant dream for me at the time.

strider96 said:
Seriously none of you are freaked out by the new bootscreen...
It scares me!
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What boot screen is that? Where can I download the full version? Also, the bear seems to be a small mod right? Where can I get the original version?
You people looking for voice input in every textbox, you can install the HTC_IME Mod for that, it has the voice input button.
I'm also looking for the Navigation app, can't find it anywhere... Suggestions?

Sorry about the double post...

Nazgulled you know what that bear stands for, right?
I suggest you not to put that onto your phone...

Not really, what does it mean?
But what about the original, without the bear?

He is called a Pedobear.
But DO NOT google it at work.

wywywywy said:
He is called a Pedobear.
But DO NOT google it at work.
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Where can I find the original boot animation without the bear?

there's no keyboard calibration on my Asian Hero. email HTC support to check why and I was informed that this was really meant and no reason was given why it was removed. now i'm wondering how I can recalibrate my keyboard

[WIP] Unofficial CM9 beta 7/14/12

This is still a work in progress but pretty much everything I can test works.
I'll work on the OP later but I've been asked about it a lot so thought I'd post it for you guys to play with as you wish.
Post bugs here so I can address them as needed.
Credits:
Cyanogenmod - source
Mongoosehelix - kernel & ics tree
conap - kernel
workshed - kernel & ics tree
tazzpatriot
I'm sure theres others and if I've missed you I apologize. Let me know and I'll add you.
I'll update this OP with more links, etc. later
ROM currently has Evervolv stock ICS kernel.
Download:
Eris CM9 Beta
You'll need to install gapps as well.. the tiny gapps from mongoose's thread will work fine
As always, what you do with your phone is your responsibility, not mine.... Have fun

I can't get past the setup wizard. I tap the droid, and it keeps telling me that setup wizard has stopped, then it goes right back to touch the android to begin
E: got past the setup wizard. I forgot about touching the four corners to bypass it. gonna test this out now.

hey hey! see you guys arent dead yet lol
great to see you got a cm9 port up and running, keep up the good work

Damn, just in time for jelly bean! I'll check this out soon!

I started from scratch again, just to make sure I didn't do something funny the first time I installed it. So far I've found Setup wizard will not work, so it has to be bypassed in order to start doing anything. Calendar will not show anything. It claims it is sync'd in accounts, but in the calendar app itself, nothing shows up. It doesn't show any calendars listed under the account in settings either.
It looks pretty sharp, however, and seems to be fairly full featured for a brand new 'WIP"
E: Sounds are very quiet, even at max volume. I can barely hear ringtones/alarms, etc in a quiet room.

Sounds awesome. I'll try it out ASAP.

It's great have a camera that will focus!! A few things I found though, were that while the camera would switch to camcorder (which is awesome!), it wouldn't record. Also, the home button doesn't work.

jaebond said:
It's great have a camera that will focus!! A few things I found though, were that while the camera would switch to camcorder (which is awesome!), it wouldn't record. Also, the home button doesn't work.
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Thanks for the report on what works and what doesn't. Any other major observations?

camcorder preview works, but its due to camera.msm7k.so in /lib/hw that is only built right now to take pictures and display preview. this will hopefully be fixed in the future easily as htc wildfire (buzz) has camcorder working, so we will have to see what erwinp did to get it working.

Yay

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Thanks for the report on what works and what doesn't. Any other major observations?
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I haven't played with it too much, but it seems just a tick slower than Evervolv (I think), but seems to have better battery life (I think). Also, I forgot to mention, the USB Mass Storage thing is a little wonky, For example, it pops up when I plug it into the wall. One thing I want to check is whether the headphone jack works.
ETA: Titanium Backup just failed to get root rights. Not sure if that has anything to do with the ROM though.
Another update is that the microphone doesn't work for making calls.

I haven't done much more with this yet, but I got bored today after sitting at the hospital most of the day......
What's coming is already better for me than cm9...
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CondemnedSoul said:
I haven't done much more with this yet, but I got bored today after sitting at the hospital most of the day......
What's coming is already better for me than cm9...
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Hi, hope everything's okay re: the hospital visit. Looking forward to trying this when you have the time.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi, hope everything's okay re: the hospital visit. Looking forward to trying this when you have the time.
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Possibly tonight. One thing that I can tell so far that needs addressed. Everything else that I can test... WiFi, camera, use mount, etc is working. Haven't tried camcorder yet though.
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gapps
could someone please link me to mongooses's gapps I cant seem to find the thread.

|shaneo| said:
could someone please link me to mongooses's gapps I cant seem to find the thread.
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I'm guessing he means from [ROM][AOSP] 4.1.1 JellyBean | Evervolv-Eligo | 3.0.0p2 | 8/26/12, it's in the first post.

New Walkman Widget is ugly..

Hello all, so I've had my Xperia Z3 for a week now and only just gotten to play with it properly after having a busy week at work! One thing I have noticed which I ABSOLUTELY HATE is the walkman widget! I have had the original Xperia Z for 2 years prior to this and loved everything about it including the walkman app & how the widgey is beautifully displayed. Now however, I noticed it does not have a progress bar, the image of the album art is bigger and doesn't look as good as when previously there was a transparent box around it and the buttons, just looks cheap & tacky now overall.
HOW CAN THIS BE?! I read on the official Sony forum that this new widget we are stuck with on newer Xperias but I am hoping there is a way to get the old version back? The progress bar was really helpful to know if I was halfway a song, now if I click back or forward to another song, it doesn't work because I can't see that I'm in the middle of a song so have to double click! :crying:
What are everyone else's opinions or am I the only 1? I think it just makes the whole widget completely redundant in a way! Plus, another horrible thing is the album art doesn't 'flip' to the next picture, animation of that is lost too! *sigh*
I have added screenshots for a better understanding. Top is the new ugly 1, and bottom is nice old one
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Edit: Found ANOTHER PROBLEM! Noticed when I press forward/back on the widget, the album art skips and disappears on songs so it's just a stupid blank CD art... This widget just gets worse...! I beg Sony to allow us to have the option to use the old one!

Yes.. Same with my Z2.. Even i don't like it. But i managed to install old XZ widget and now its ok. I can do that because i have a rooted deodexed device.. We can always go back to older versions...

You don't need root to revert. Simply go to settings, apps, walkman, uninstall updates

augie7107 said:
You don't need root to revert. Simply go to settings, apps, walkman, uninstall updates
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I tried this and it does not work, it doesn't matter which version you have, as long as you have the newer Xperia's I think you are stuck with the new one

I can't remember when it was changed, I don't use the widget. Sideload an old apk for Walkman, that should get your old widget back.

augie7107 said:
I can't remember when it was changed, I don't use the widget. Sideload an old apk for Walkman, that should get your old widget back.
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I think it changed after 8.3 or something, but problem is, even if I uninstall updates on walkman, the factory version installed is still higher than what I need for the old widget, think it goes back to 8.4.. So would I have to uninstall the walkman app completely on Titanium & then install the older apk of the walkman? Not sure if uninstalling the walkman completely will have ill effects on my phone..?

If you can get the 8.3 apk and install it normally, it will most likely ask you if you want to replace what is currently on your device. If you say yes, it will replace with the older version. No need to uninstall.

augie7107 said:
If you can get the 8.3 apk and install it normally, it will most likely ask you if you want to replace what is currently on your device. If you say yes, it will replace with the older version. No need to uninstall.
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What I mean is, that I cannot install the 8.3 apk because the factory version on the z3 is higher than the 8.3 one. I think unless it's lower than the 8.3, I cannot install it, gives me messages saying that I can't.

I'm sorry but they look almost exactly the same... if the top one is ugly, so is the bottom one because the differences are marginal. Obviously, you might not like it, but no offense - I think you're being fussy...
Anyway, you can always downgrade if the 5px bigger cover art and missing progress bar bother you so much. You can find older build all over the internet and don't need root to use them.

Akiainavas said:
I'm sorry but they look almost exactly the same... if the top one is ugly, so is the bottom one because the differences are marginal. Obviously, you might not like it, but no offense - I think you're being fussy...
Anyway, you can always downgrade if the 5px bigger cover art and missing progress bar bother you so much. You can find older build all over the internet and don't need root to use them.
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Ugly in terms of having no progress bar is useless to me, maybe to you they are minor issues, but to me the walkman is a HUGE part of my phone! I disagree they are marginal differences at all when I've stated the many things I don't like about it..
Like I have already stated if you read back, I cannot downgrade to older versions because the factory 1 is still higher than the version that I need, hence I am unable to install the older one I want? I already have many apk's of the older versions ready!

I agree and would like to know is there ANY way to get the old version back too? theres got to be a way

Try going into settings. Apps, go to all apps and scroll down to Walkman, and choose disable. Now try installing your old apk

And also tick unknown sources in security

The old one in 4.4.2 is much better

Thanks for the tips guys but as nerdy_James said, it doesn't seem to work because of the z3's factory version being higher than the needed versions of the apk =( when I try to disable it automatically goes back to factory version anyway so doesn't work.
Anybody else got any ideas?

Root, delete it, install older version

I actually prefer the new one.
Album art is bigger, progress bar is not important and it actually looks more simple now.

Bigger album art is not important to me. Each to their own =P
Shall give it a go with deleting it.
Edit; doesn't work. Won't allow me to install older ones..

Wow, feel like I am being attacked for my opinion when all I want is help from people on here that's all. The 'thanks' to posts who disagree with me is pretty much insulting because they don't like my opinion. Rude
Thanks anyway those who have tried to help me.

Nerdy_James said:
Wow, feel like I am being attacked for my opinion when all I want is help from people on here that's all. The 'thanks' to posts who disagree with me is pretty much insulting because they don't like my opinion. Rude
Thanks anyway those who have tried to help me.
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No disrespect intended. You'll need to be a little less sensitive to survive any forum environment. I happen to agree with doministry and thanked him for sharing his opinion.
After all, we are also entitled to our opinion, correct? In any event we attempted to assist and it looks like its not possible to revert. Sony music unlimited is transferring to Spotify at the end of this month so that could also be a reason why installing a previous version is not possible.

Pixel Android O Beta released!

Anyone trying it?
Beta 1 also known as DP2.
https://www.google.com/android/beta

Taking the plunge right now. I'll report later.

anyone else try it yet? I am assuming it is daily driver ready like N beta was

I am also waiting to see what people are reporting, hoping it's stable. Since I am on a custom rom it's a bit of a pain to load, don't see factory images yet.

I was thinking about trying this Android O beta out. I have a Verizon Pixel running stock (the bootloader is unlocked though). Should I have any issues?
Also, I know if I opt out of the beta, I'll lose all user data but will I lose user data when opting in and upgrading the Android O?

ForeverZ3RO said:
I was thinking about trying this Android O beta out. I have a Verizon Pixel running stock (the bootloader is unlocked though). Should I have any issues?
Also, I know if I opt out of the beta, I'll lose all user data but will I lose user data when opting in and upgrading the Android O?
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Unlocked bootloader is not a problem, in fact its better to have the option if anything goes wrong.
If you switch to official O when it's out no wipe required. Only if you want to go back to N.

I too am waiting for reports before i put it on my daily. i will be throwing it onto my nexus 6p tonight thought to try it out. if i dont see any bugs that are too bad... i may throw it on the pixel

Really eager to hear about battery life impact here if anyone can provide feedback.

Can anyone give some basic info about stability? I'd love to jump on with my Daily Driver, just if it isn't ready for it, I'll wait. Thanks in advance!

took forever to install(half hourish).900 mb
everything works so far without a wipe coming from the latest verizon 7.1.2 build.
confirmed tested on my part
camera
android wear connects
fingerprint unlock(seems faster)
foxfi usb tether fosho
overall seems buttery and the pulldown menu is surely nicer with being able to hit settings button without a reach is really nice. i couldnt get picture in picture to go but i didnt dive into the menus too far yet. so far so good. i think it's safe.

Factory images and OTAs for ODP2.
Release notes and detailed description.

n00bpwner said:
took forever to install(half hourish).900 mb
everything works so far without a wipe coming from the latest verizon 7.1.2 build.
confirmed tested on my part
camera
android wear connects
fingerprint unlock(seems faster)
foxfi usb tether fosho
overall seems buttery and the pulldown menu is surely nicer with being able to hit settings button without a reach is really nice. i couldnt get picture in picture to go but i didnt dive into the menus too far yet. so far so good. i think it's safe.
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Tim from droidlife had pip working but janky https://twitter.com/Timotato/status/864945689498861568
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

It's a nice beta so far. One thing noticed is double tap to check turn on the black screen but tapping the screen or notification icons won't do nothing and theme option won't switch to Pixel theme, even selecting it. Notification dots is a very good implementation for handling notification in a easily way. Ending my words, another great thing is that now night light have a intensity slider.

Any one has magisk or any root method working on this

Tried to update from latest Android N, didn't boot up, got a data corrupted message during install...
Can I now flash the Android O Factory Image without -w to get it running?

and most people in that tweeter feed can't get it to go either. every time i longpress home it launches assistant. and the setting to allow pip for youtube chrome and google play services are on by default.

Juli112 said:
Tried to update from latest Android N, didn't boot up, got a data corrupted message during install...
Can I now flash the Android O Factory Image without -w to get it running?
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Probably, doesn't hurt to try flashing ODP2 factory image without -w.

Cristiano Matos said:
It's a nice beta so far. One thing noticed is double tap to check turn on the black screen but tapping the screen or notification icons won't do nothing and theme option won't switch to Pixel theme, even selecting it. Notification dots is a very good implementation for handling notification in a easily way. Ending my words, another great thing is that now night light have a intensity slider.
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Is your notification shade stuck on the inverted theme and in device theme there is Pixel and some android_auto_generated_rro_ theme?

HiddenSanctum said:
Is your notification shade stuck on the inverted theme and in device theme there is Pixel and some android_auto_generated_rro_ theme?
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Yep

Kisakuku said:
Probably, doesn't hurt to try flashing ODP2 factory image without -w.
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Didn't work, getting this Error:
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Verizon Note 8 - Just got OREO Update

Just got the Oreo OTA - 12:50am New York Time. Installed. We are now on OREO 8.0.0 with Samsung Experience 9.0

SuBDivisions said:
Just got the Oreo OTA - 12:50am New York Time. Installed. We are now on OREO 8.0.0 with Samsung Experience 9.0
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Woot Woot
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- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA

I just checked my Note 8 and sure enough ... the update is ready from Verizon. I'm installing it now before I leave for work. Let's hope this thing works out okay. This is my work device!

Same here, I am downloading now.. And I hope it works out well also....
Sent from my note 8...

Ah, just got back into the country, saw the posts, checked and it's available. NorCal.
r_r

Just got it as well! https://thematridox.com/2018/03/30/samsungs-galaxy-note-8-get-android-oreo-on-verizon/

does it have the video lockscreen?

Network mode in oreo has changed... Global mode was removed!

I just noticed that 'message tone' has been removed from the contacts page. No more individual text message tones for your friends or family! UGH! Why remove a feature that's been on every Android I've owned since 4.2? I don't want to use a different text messaging app. I liked the way its been set up for the past ..umm... 10 YEARS! I'm certain that Apple will never remove that feature from their devices. I want ROOT so I can go back and FIX IT!
First rule of programming ... don't remove features unless they are broken. New versions should ADD improvements, not remove features that have been around forever that has always worked! I'm almost tempted to use ODIN to go back to 7.1.1. Makes me wonder what else is missing. I'm not happy with my $1000 phone

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Network mode in oreo has changed... Global mode was removed!
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I still have it. I have Global, LTE/CDMA, and LTE/GSM/UMTS

So far, I've noticed the phone is faster and the enhanced lock screen and notifications are great. The occasional split second hiccups when opening apps seem to have gone away. The battery seems to drain more quickly but hopefully it will settle after a few charge cycles.

I forgot to take a screen before I plugged it up, but I ran it yesterday from approximately 11am until today at 1pm. So for a new build, it wasn't bad at all.. The only hiccup I had was with my poweramp audio player.. But I uninstalled and reinstalled and it seems fine..
But it is certainly much snappier.. And the little default YouTube picture in picture is pretty cool (simply because it just does it on its own). But I sure at some point it will begin to get in my nerves just doing it all the time...
But I took a screen of the battery stat for the screen and attached it...
Sent from my note 8...

Has the sound improved like the S9? Is there an option to turn on Atmos sound?

Is anyone missing the force touch settings feature whwn you hold down on an app from the home screen or apps page it brings up options for the app. I cant get mine to work. Seen here at 1.min mark.
Update… i have it. Doeant work for all apps.

Can anyone tell me if I go from a rooted Verizon note 8 and update to Oreo, if I can't get the hotspot to work right, will I be able to downgrade to re-root? Or if I backup what I have now using flashify, can I go back using the restore option on flashify?

i cant get the update via ota or from samfirm

blane3298 said:
i cant get the update via ota or from samfirm
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Here is all you need to update from Nougat to Oreo.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note8-android-oreo-update/
After following the instructions up above and you have Oreo installed, follow the next instructions to install CRC2 here and then CRC4, then CRC5
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...-patch-on-the-samsung-galaxy-note8/?nocache=1

Well, I finally got the Double Stuf Oreo goodness on my Note8. It was an absolute NIGHTMARE to get, though!! Had to do it an unholy SIX TIMES before it stuck - the first five wound up reverting back to the stock Nougat upon rebooting!

Happy to report that after a few charge cycles, battery life is great again.

I am on a Note 8 and the last OTA Oreo patched the hotspot hack via bk package disabler. I am doing the sim card trick right now for my hotspot and it's been working like a charm. It is critical for me to keep this... does anyone know if the current update being pushed now patches that as well? If so, can I disable the system update notification?
Thanks in advance