Root without tripping knox? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

I have done a search (with little sucess) to find anew answer to if I can root my s7 edge without tripping knox? I have a EE UK 820 model
Any help or if you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated
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1iam5mith said:
I have done a search (with little sucess) to find anew answer to if I can root my s7 edge without tripping knox? I have a EE UK 820 model
Any help or if you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated
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There is no way to have ROOT without tripping Knox.
Once you trip Knox you cannot un-tripped it.
That's why you were unsuccessful in all your searches.
Good luck, have a great day!

Yep, unfortunately there's no way possible to do this. You either root and trip knox permanently, or not at all.

Was wondering if anyone has even tried rooting s7 edge on u.s. cellular?
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1iam5mith said:
i have done a search (with little sucess) to find anew answer to if i can root my s7 edge without tripping knox? I have a ee uk 820 model
any help or if you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated
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you cant root without tripping knox on any marshmellow firmware

So as i get it, without root we can't install/use Titanium Backup???

there are specialist shops that have expensive boxes to erase this knox trip once you have tripped it. Im not sure if they work for S7 EDGe YET. They exist though and it IS POSSIBLE. Just as its possible to change your IMEI (repair) or other things the legality and available is per device and country, so check into it, spend a few weeks searching with at least 4 to 6 hours a day and you will find something and someone to contact who MAY be legitimate or a fraud, you wont know until you try.
Also if you fancy learning how to do chip erasures and programming you could buy a 2000-5000$ chip programmer and learn how to program chips yourself, you might need to desolder the original and replace it or could just be a simple flash.
Even if its something as protected as certain STmicro devices, you can still decapsulate the chip and probe the gates for the logic with a microscop. Bottom line is if MAN makes it, MAN can break it. Everything is possible, never give up.

Well, rooting without tripping knox is not possible at the moment.
Apart from philosophical suggestions about never giving up - I agree in general, but this time it'd be too much - root could be available in future if an engineering bootloader leaks out or if a kernel vulnerability is found.
The second chance is not something I would await very soon, since the update policy has been implemented on a monthly basis and every hole will be very likely closed ASAP.
Chances are that some employee at Samsung lets a signed engineering bootloader leak...It has already happened in the recent past. If so, root without tripping knox would be possible.

Sadly, it is not possible yet, and maybe it's better that way...

Is there any change to this folks? I keep reading various pages saying that it's possible but they don't seem very credible.

Scott M said:
Is there any change to this folks? I keep reading various pages saying that it's possible but they don't seem very credible.
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I'm about to find out!
https://www.androidexplained.com/galaxy-s7-root-verizon-att-t-mobile-sprint/4/

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[Q] How to Unroot Note 3 SM-N900?

Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
roni2915 said:
Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
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1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
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muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Can anyone confirm if option 1 is working?
Also, can I modify SM-N900 to work on AWS network (Wind Mobile/Mobilicity). I am thinking of selling this phone and getting the snapdragon version. and I have a buyer who wants to work the phone on wind.
dr.m0x said:
Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
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I'm thinkin you are right. I have a buddy that works for one of the manufactures and they have a whole department dedicated to "returns". And return numbers are much much higher than they want them to be. So anything that will bring those numbers down at all, they will do!
I would also like to know if it is possible to unroot and reset knox on the n900.
As for the warranty goes, I think that if you bring the device back because the usb port or ear phone jack or the home button fails, this should be repaired regardless if you rooted your phone.
Can you overclock your home button? What about the power button and vol up?
Lol.
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does this work
Hello guys , just came across this link while surfing the net, it claims to restore warranty of rooted phone SM N 900. Please look at this. has anyone tried? please post results
http://theunlockr.com/2013/10/13/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-3/
There are rooting methods without tripping Knox and in those cases removing root will bring phone back to original 100%, so to speak. However once tripped, I'm not aware of any way to undo Knox flag. The method above does not mention anything about Knox and I'm 90% sure it does not remove Knox flag, it just removes the root using Chainfire method.
However, rooted phone shows up as custom right away in about menu and it's easy to see, where Knox flag only shows up in download menu and it's more involved to find, therefore the chances are, unless it is Samsung service, they may not look or even care about Knox flag as long as it doesn't show custom/rooted, especially that Knox is only Samsung thing.
I agree 100% "genius" customers are the reason for all the blocks and lockdowns on our phones. I just read some thread about some Einstein calling customer care asking them for help in rooting the phone, I'm kidding you not and he went on and on how useless the service department is when they tried to explain that they not support custom programing etc.
captainhakan said:
Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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I agree that manufacturers should allow for root access, however carriers would lose their minds. It (and im basing this on the sweat of others) appears that doing a hotspot that doesn't eat the data allowed by the carrier is super easy once root access is granted. But to the point, I agree that ROOT should be given as an option OTB.
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UNROOT GALAXY Note 3 (SM N 900)
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in USA. And the device is an unlocked to use in every operators in North, Central, South America and Caribbean. Actually I bought the phone to use in Sri Lanka, since it was not compatible in Sri Lanka I found a guy who unlock it. To be honest I didn't know that he was going to root my phone until I tried to update my phone. It says " The device has been modified..no updates are available" That guy has rooted the device in superSU.
But I want to unroot my phone to the factory status. And I tried my self to completely unroot in the setting of superSU. And I did it..but there were no any changes in the status of my phone "CUSTOM" And I uninstalled the superUS. When I install it again through Play Store, it says "There is no US binary installed.And Super US by cannot be installed"
So please tell me how to unroot my phone to the original status to update it. Because I tried to find the firmwares, the safest and easiest way of unrooting. But I could not find it as I do not know what's is my Region code and other related details. Can anyone tell me how to do it or can you send any links to download them please ? Attached photograph will show some details of my device details of firmware. If possible inbox me [email protected] or post on this page..Thank you so much.
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I have some question about Knox

Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.
shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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fffft said:
Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en

[Q] I just need a simple answer to a rooting question.

Hey guys, I just bought two new phones to replace my Captivate (I hate parting with that phone) and my S2 T989. Now I'm the owner of a new Samsung Avant SM- G386T and an S5 G900T.
I want to root the S5 and I've read around to learn about getting it rooted and I've not been able to get any real clear answer of the best way and the easiest way. Does Towel work on the ANE6 or not? Can it be done through Mobile Odin? Will it or will it not effect the Knox counter?
So much for having only a simple question.
As also as always, thanks to anyone and everyone for your time.
kaiserXDA said:
Hey guys, I just bought two new phones to replace my Captivate (I hate parting with that phone) and my S2 T989. Now I'm the owner of a new Samsung Avant SM- G386T and an S5 G900T.
I want to root the S5 and I've read around to learn about getting it rooted and I've not been able to get any real clear answer of the best way and the easiest way. Does Towel work on the ANE6 or not? Can it be done through Mobile Odin? Will it or will it not effect the Knox counter?
So much for having only a simple question.
As also as always, thanks to anyone and everyone for your time.
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Yes rooting will trip Knox
No, you can't root thru Mobil Odin, must be thru Computer
http://galaxys5root.com/galaxy-s5-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s5/
Okay, thanks. I appreciate the answer. I'm still reading all the posts I can on getting this S5 rooted. It drives me nuts not having access to files and to get rid of bloatware. I'll do a ROM a little later. I don't really care about tripping Knox, but I'd rather not. And as of a few weeks ago I don't have a PC to use. So I'll keep reading and see what I can do.
Thanks
kaiserXDA said:
Okay, thanks. I appreciate the answer. I'm still reading all the posts I can on getting this S5 rooted. It drives me nuts not having access to files and to get rid of bloatware. I'll do a ROM a little later. I don't really care about tripping Knox, but I'd rather not. And as of a few weeks ago I don't have a PC to use. So I'll keep reading and see what I can do.
Thanks
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Actually you can root the S5 without tripping Knox with the Towelroot method. I'm not sure if your model is supported, though, you will have to check that or just try if ist works.
That's what I thought, thanks. I'll check to see if my model is compatible.

[N910C]Is there a way to root without tripping knox

Hi all. İ wonder is there a way to root without tripping knox like Towelroot etc? I don't want to trip knox counter...
Not possible on any Note 4 variant.
abdyasar said:
Hi all. İ wonder is there a way to root without tripping knox like Towelroot etc? I don't want to trip knox counter...
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There is a way you could try but the last time I checked it wasn't supported for the Galaxy Note 4's. It's an app that roots your phone by literally The Click (Tap) of a Button. It's called Towel Root by geohot. You can find it here.
Try it out and let me know if it works. Hope this helped.
It takes longer to type "Thanks" than to press the button. Make your life easier
i guess it does not support anything exept snapdragon
Well, that's the best you can get at the moment. Sorry. I too was trying to root without tripping knox counter but really it doesn't matter that much. I mean I've never destroyed a phone in any way to need a replacement or damage it in any unrecoverable way that I would have to take it to my Service Provider to fix it (plus they don't have a clue about phones at MTN, I don't know how they hire those people when they can't even explain how to edit your Network Settings).
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I tried Towelroot and it fails.
Towelroot used an exploit to gain root without tripping Knox. That exploit was also a security vulnerability and was fixed by Samsung on the Note 3 and S5 later software updates. The Note 4 and S6 come with that fix built-in and towelroot will not work. Which is a good thing because the same exploit could be used by a third party to gain FULL access to your phone.

Can i root my o2 Samsung galaxy s10+ phone without voiding warranty.

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EarthMonster said:
Just the title
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
U cant have your cake and eat it too.
Knox being broken shouldn't void warranty under EU consumer laws. But you best do your due diligence and not just take my word for it.
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The answer is no. At least nothing publicly available.
Theres plenty of USA s10+ owners who would be all over if it was possible since we cant even unlock the BL which means stuck waiting around for alternate root methods
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
EarthMonster said:
Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
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Lol
Seeing as how magisk patched firmware and TWRP specifically require an unlocked BL which is exactly what trips knox your answer is no. That will 100% trip your knox flag.
As far as Netflix (and many other companies) they are always trying to be as secure as possible. Theres many who find ways to get around those types of issues. It's just a cat n mouse game sometimes i.e devs get it working then Netflix breaks it again then users find a way to get around it etc etc
elliwigy said:
This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
dezborders said:
What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
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ive never owned one.. i imagine most just unlock bl.. but from wat my sources tell me there is easy root on exynos without tripping knox.. I am not able to provide details tho as they are private methods.. they use it for business and such apparently so take it with a grain of salt lol
exynos are notoriously known to b a lot easier to root than SD variants
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