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T-Mobile 4.4.2 out! (At least for me)

I dunno if this is common information but I just got the OTA a few minutes ago. Delete if this is a redundant post!
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Yep. Got it
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I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?

doctor_evil said:
I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?
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To me ...reverting to stock is the simplest way.
If you absolutely don't want to lose your stuff ...you have to return it to stock piece by piece. Many threads about it already. Many.
Tho...I just transferred all my stuff to my pc ....including my titanium backup folder....pics and all that...and used rsdlite ...and put all my stuff back after. Rooted it. Restored my titanium backup. Done.
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I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
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flashallthetime said:
I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
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Life's too short for reading now days? Lol
I hate asking anything and waiting hours...days even for an answer. Been that way always....love Google search.
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Also got the update, on my XT1053, Romanian (europe) carrier.

come on AT&T!

xinchi said:
come on AT&T!
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At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
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Got the update too last night. I'm in Canada on Wind mobile.

My phone doesn't feel different...but it's 0.0.2 more. So it must be better..../sarcasm
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While I can agree with this partially, if AT&T and Verizon didn't junk up the firmware and change stuff that didn't need to be changed, then we wouldn't really have a legit reason to root the phone. Dev Editions are for people who want exposed modules and all that jazz, and I feel like Moto should've made a MM phone that was Dev Edition, but can't have your cake and eat it too. Again, if AT&T and Verizon used the same firmware as T-Mobile did, then I'm sure a LOT more people, including myself, would be happy and not need root.
flashallthetime said:
At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
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I'm happy the USB OTG is back and the phone feels snappier. Battery life (for me) is noticeably better after a significant decline with 4.4. Good that they fixed all the bluetooth volume issues I was having with my headset (basically one volume on the LG Tone+ and when connected to the car, voice notifications came into the phone and not out of the car speakers). Also looks like some notifications have had some tweaks, such as picture auto-backup now shows a thumbnail of some of the images that were backed up. It's a REALLY good update for me.
Only thing that bugs me so far is that when you remove the USB storage, you get a notification that stays there until the next reboot.

I already had great battery life. But it seems to have gotten slightly better. Not marginal, but it was enough for me to notice. Basically getting a bit more out of a 100% charge.
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Possibly loosing CM Support for the Moto X

Not sure what is going on here, but it doesn't look good between dhacker and CM:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/65939/
Remove Moto X/Droid Ultra: Maintainer is incompetent
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jbaumert said:
Not sure what is going on here, but it doesn't look good between dhacker and CM:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/65939/
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that commit message though lol
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XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
that commit message though lol
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OMG, that's hilarious!!

#BlameProTekk

read the last comment, apparently dhacker abandoned cm

Well there goes that.
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I pretty sure he's referring to the commit bring abandoned

Well if the support's loose, hopefully they can tighten it back up.
Wouldn't bother me if it did happen though, this is the only phone I've ever had where I prefer the stock ROM (with some xposed tweaks) to a custom, including CM which has been on every device I've owned that it supports.

It was just a matter of time before he lost it again.. Really am surprised it took that long.
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I have not run a ROM yet that didn't have issues its not even worth it with xposed. Since I have some apps that require xposed modules to work I have to run it anyway. So there is no benefit to a custom ROM that since the beginning has been broken ie. No speaker phone camera and video issues. Just don't see the need unless it was flawless. I will say this my phone is much smoother on a custom ROM that is for sure. But no active notifications and touch less control sucks.
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Well, Active Display and Touchless control were not going to be portable anyway..
Most of the things in GravityBox give a feel of a custom ROM.
One thing I don't understand, why all the hate for xposed modules? I am not too fond that they must exist but don't get why one be be so obverse to running a couple to make life better.
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Once Motorola stops supporting this phone , we will need custom roms to stay updated. And I think AD and TC will be an inbuilt feature in the future versions of android. So I would want dev to go on to keep this community alive.

Ya.. I think that's one of the reasons they bought Moto.. Patents
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You sure this is serious, rather than just joking around or teasing each other?

As far as I know, he's not the kind of guy that takes any type of criticism well.. I've seen his actions all the way back to the days of the droid bionic. He just doesn't have what you'd call an "award-winning personality."
Tag him in this thread and ask him yourself. He might respond.
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DaRkRhiNe said:
Once Motorola stops supporting this phone , we will need custom roms to stay updated. And I think AD and TC will be an inbuilt feature in the future versions of android. So I would want dev to go on to keep this community alive.
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By that time I'll have a new phone I do hope they figure out how to get the active notifications and touch less control in a ROM.
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is it hopeless waiting for turbo development?

I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me

Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.

ultramegaman963 said:
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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You are forgetting that there is another variant of the Turbo, the Maxx one that will come with unlockable bootloader and free of Verizon crap. People will make it their way to get on of those, and probably development will be significantly more active that with Turbo.
On the other hand, Lollipop doesn't mean no more root, there are already devices with Lollipop and gained root few days ago, so it shouldn't be a worry.
:fingers-crossed:

Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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rhouse1983 said:
Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Xposed doesn't work yet, but likely will in the future. And there are other things to use root for than just Xposed. Such as Tasker, AdFree, Cerberus, etc. Root works great on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, albeit without Xposed.

I mainly want/need root for ARLiberator or ARUnchained. Right now I can cast to my receiver and get sound but ARU gave full mirroring and allowed me to control my phone through my headunit (with root). Combined with Tasker to automate and it was fantastic. Xposed was real nice to have and I'm sure it will be updated for L at some point but I wasn't really using a whole lot on there I'll miss. Same goes for battery tweaker like Greenify. It was awesome with root and combined with Xposed but w/ the monster battery on this thing and the improvements with Project Volta I'm thinking I won't miss it so much.

Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.

scottysize said:
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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You can disable those apps now which is essentially the same thing.

Disable works just as good

Hadn't tried that. Just hid them using a launcher. OK, I'll disable them. Gracias!

I don't think it's hopeless. Just look at the bounty. No, it's no guarantee a dev will obtain that full amount but it show's that we're interested.
My guess and hope is that the Middle Man will come back and we'll be able to get unlock codes. It's our best shot.
In the meantime I'll stay at KitKat and cross my fingers. Root for me will give me custom DPI's which 4.7"+ phones need so badly. Besides that I'm doing just fine without root. Yeah, a few customization options would be fine but stock Motorola Android flies!

Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Without root you cannot manipulate the hosts file meaning you cannot block ads completely as you can with root. This alone is enough to make root worthwhile for me because I despise ads. I also like to change fonts at the system level and make many other customizations that require root and lollipop in no way negates those needs.
Not that my opinion or likes and dislikes matter. And that's the thing, people who say root is not needed speak for themselves just as I speak for myself and no one else. I don't ever say YOU need root or YOU do not need root because I have no business deciding what someone else does or does not need. Just saying...

I just think it's going to take some time gents. Phone has been out for what? Two weeks?

coreywallen said:
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Agreed. This is the on thing I really want. I can live without the rest of the stuff. If I could pay for an app that worked for wifi tether I would do that and probably be happy without root all together.

I had the RAZR maxx HD. I thought we'd never get root for the longest time. It took a while - a bunch of months, at least, but we got it.
Now, the maxx HD never was nearly as popular as the droid turbo. That's a fact.
I'm sure someone out there will find a way. It's not about if, but when. That's my opinion, at least

2 things I want root for..
Messing with speaker output
And shutter speed of the camera

This phone will probably never be rooted, but if you aren't okay with that then why would you ever buy this device?

Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why is a developers edition needed? Why dont you just unlock developer mode on the phone you get? I did.

93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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What makes you think L will be any worse than the latest 4.4.4. I think its a crap shoot it could happen either way. Do You Feel Lucky? HaHa

Just switched from the m8

Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!

Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.

Welcome to a real camera

I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.

keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.

I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.

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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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tommason1968 said:
I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499

i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.

Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.

tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.

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Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time

Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones

Not worried about loosing warranty by rooting?

Trying to decide between the Moto g4 or my replacement Nexus 5x. Loosing out on having a warranty if I unlock my moto g4s bootloader is a big deal as my Nexus was just replaced 8 months later under warrenty.

Well best to just stay with the 5x then
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Yes, probably. I don't know how you guys deal with ads.

Don't have ads as I bought the non Amazon one. Also if you have the amazon one you can't root or unlock bootloader
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He was talking about the ads in general... You can't use an ad-blocker like adaway if you are not rooted. That was issue nr 1 to me.
Also, a secondary issue: I am a geek that likes to see the cell tower information. Using cellmapper, with a rooted Qualcomm device, one can see the actual LTE frequency. Not possible to see if not rooted (or non-qualcomm).

Against all rational thinking, I rooted my phone and installed xposed. In the few months that I've owned this phone, I've also tested around three different ROMs, didn't like/had bugs on every one of them, so reverted to rooted stock. I've experienced screen burn, bootloops, and soft bricks, but I still don't regret rooting my device. The best things on android are accessed after root. Warranty doesn't cover much either. Most common problems aren't covered by warranty, and I've placed enough trust in motorola to go on with this.

903tex said:
Don't have ads as I bought the non Amazon one. Also if you have the amazon one you can't root or unlock bootloader
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You don't have ads on Youtube, internet browsing, and some apps? I usually run xposed and adblocker, what do you do?

BitterBuffaloh said:
You don't have ads on Youtube, internet browsing, and some apps? I usually run xposed and adblocker, what do you do?
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Lol not what I meant
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linkinscreamer said:
Against all rational thinking, I rooted my phone and installed xposed. In the few months that I've owned this phone, I've also tested around three different ROMs, didn't like/had bugs on every one of them, so reverted to rooted stock. I've experienced screen burn, bootloops, and soft bricks, but I still don't regret rooting my device. The best things on android are accessed after root. Warranty doesn't cover much either. Most common problems aren't covered by warranty, and I've placed enough trust in motorola to go on with this.
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Thanks for the impressions!