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I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
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netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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Personally, I just wanted something new and different than stock. I got my M when it first came out and didn't flash any roms until this past month. The big differences that I have noticed running a 4.2.2 based rom are that the camera seems to respond quicker, and when I set defaults they stick through reboot.
The problem with the defaults was one of my biggest gripes with the stock rom. Every time that I would reboot my phone, the defaults would clear and that drove me crazy.
Now as far as problems that I have noticed on the 4.2.2 roms, the only one that I really have is with recording video. It does not seem to want to pick up audio correctly and you can barely hear anything on playback. Also the front facing camera doesn't work for recording videos.
On the plus side of custom roms is that you do get more options to get the ui to look and feel how you want it to. And no, you don't have to over clock on this phone.
The best thing that I could say is flash carbon or pacman rom and play with it for a day or two and see how you like it.
netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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on the surface, you are correct. however, there are some custom ROMs that give us JB 4.2.2 before it is officially released to us. here's a link to the new features: http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
so, in addition to the new features, some custom ROMs offer various mods/tweaks. some claim to give better battery performance, others block ads, others reduce lag (although, that is mostly kernel related). so, just as calbrs stated, give one of them a try for a few days (make a nandroid of your current setup first though), and see how you like it.
problem for me though, as much I as should be on 4.1.2, I really enjoy being on the latest/greatest build, as I get to experience more features. and so long as my battery performance doesn't suffer too much, I'll stick on 4.2.2 for now.
Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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in terms of 4.2.2 over 4.1.2, correct - it's mostly aesthetics. but the performance is hardly noticeable since the M is already fairly quick.
some custom 4.1.2 ROMs, however, do offer better battery life (in part due to debloating, others have tweaks).
but if the performance difference is negligible to you, then why not stick to 4.2.2?
also, did you try the unofficial AOKP?
finally, some of these custom ROMs also have the latest kernels, which can help in terms of keeping your data connection.
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Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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I agree most roms are not as good as stock. The #2 on that poll is here on xda.
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I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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The OP hasn't been updated in ages. Everything in VM and PA works fine (NFC is a little sketchy)
You can find builds at http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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Because we can
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Because we can
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There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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netizenmt said:
There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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Lol, I was being funny back. Sometimes humor just doesn't come across in texts. It's all good, man!!
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Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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so what was your reason for eliminating AOKP? this has been the best for me so far. although, I did not give carbon a fighting chance, as on first boot it was extremely laggy. but i'm re-considering....
If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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agreed.
Eclipse has both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 available.
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Jersey846 said:
If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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I'll give my experience, but to each their own:
PACMan:
most customizable, very stable, worst on battery life, dev is pretty good at posting updates (he only posts when there is a significant update)
AOKP:
very customizable, fairly stable, best battery life, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily
Carbon:
very customizable, most stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily;
CM10.1:
(stock, basically): haven't tried it
Slimbean:
very customizable, dev is non-existent; however, I gave this a go for about an hour as well, but dismissed it due to lack of customization when compared to PACMan
Orion:
very customizable, very stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates routinely; however, I gave this a go for about a day, but did not like the blackout themes/sounds/etc. but that was awhile ago, so I certainly owe this ROM another chance
Eclipse:
haven't tried it
Axoim
haven't tried it
JellyBeer
haven't tried it
This is perfect! Before reading this I was leaning to AOKP or Cyanogen. I like how customizable AOKP is and I like the updates and stability from Cyanogen. (from what I've read) I want a rom that is stable stable stable as I wouldn't consider myself a power user. Thanks for posting this!
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See what I mean though. He dismissed Slimbean because it was not as customizable as PACman. I dismissed PACman as being too complicated, too customizable!
Hate to tell you this, Jersey846, but you probably will need to try a few yourself before you know what's right for you.
BTW, thus far Eclipse is proving to be very stable. I haven't had any noticeable lag, signal seems stable and comparable to what I normally see in my area. Looking good so far!
Orion, eh... Have to check that out...
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Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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jetbruceli said:
Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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My first was the original galaxy i7500 but my cm experience was on the milestone 2 then g2x.
I really like cm when a device is no longer supported by their respective companies.
When I had the nexus 4, I used the latest cm 10.2 nightlies because to me the stock AOSP was lacking a few functions.
The note 3 has its own set of functions that I don't think we will ever see on CM.
However, would be very nice to have a dual booting system so I could flip flop between the two.
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Would be nice having on n900
fethi2 said:
Would be nice having on n900
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If the s4 has it, I am sure the note 3 900 will get it too.
One the biggest reasons for getting the 9005 was because I wanted to stick with a SOC that is easier for devs to work with.
Especially about a year from now when Sammy releases the note 5 and forgets about the note 3, we can at least update to the latest Android with CM
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me me me! pick me! xD
I usually run Paranoid Android on all my devices, but my experience with stock/rooted Note 3 so far has been fantastic, so I'm probably just going to run with things as is for the time being. Once PA releases I'll probably have to reevaluate though ;p
Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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I kinda feel the same, I bought a few apps recently because it's not rooted. and these apps I'm happy to support because I use them on a daily baisis, like business calendar, poweramp, mx player etc. but I do find root useful for ntfs micro sdcard, especially when a file is bigger than 10GBs.
but what I really liked about a custom rom was editing minor things, having 8 icons along the screen horizontally. instead of what right now, 4? also all apps are HUGE dpi. I feel like when I load my mail. every mother fcker can read it from 5 metres away from me lol..
Ill Probably try it but wont stay with it. Lately on my s4 ive been preferring modded TW roms and will probably continue that with the N3
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Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.
I'm done with rooting and adding ROMs. I've rooted just about every phone I've owned, and they've never ran 100%. Something always had an issue and not running properly. Today's phone are almost perfect anyway. The Note 3 is bad ass just the way it is! If I do anything to it, it's maybe using Themer to give it a fresh look, but that's it?
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Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.
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+1
I have been pretty impressed with the performance of the GN3 even after rooting. I am also using the s-pen functionality a lot more than i anticipated. I doubt there is any need to go the CM route.
A little off point, but someone mentioned they hadnt rooted yet. I had gone a week without rooting and was fine, but i had to root for tethering (havent installed an app yet though). So far, i have also included quite a bit of additional apps for the Pen Window - VERY handy.
I just need a ROM that will allow tethering.
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I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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lm that guy said:
I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again
Maybe a stupid question, but why are we not seeing any AOSP roms at this time ? With other devices they appeared much faster. Dont get me wrong, no trolling on ETA. Cant wait to see this beast (snapdragon 800) run stock android
I'm just waiting to be able to root my phone without voiding its warranty due to KNOX :/
wilflare said:
what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again
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multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.
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multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.
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hmm does multi-window work with all apps?
hmm I do like Air Command though.
never used/tried S Note or Scrapbooker
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.ca/20...d-50-lollipop-coming.html?linkId=10037443&m=1
Confirmed for our Moto X gen1 devices!
Maybe I will remember to do the right thing and wait until root is found before updating this time....
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
The same post? Please, write here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903911
isaakmg said:
The same post? Please, write here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903911
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My bad. Saw it and noticed the word "Rumor" so decided to start another thread. Since, yknow, it's not rumor anymore....
And yes, never felt the urge to root other than for loading my Titanium Backup apps...
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Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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At home at least, have you tried to use open DNS to block them? You can set up your router to use openDNS as the DNS it hands out to client and then any of the known ad domains that are erksome you can block at the DNS level similar to what you did with adblocking via /etc/hosts previously with root.
AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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Funny, I am experiencing the same thing! With my LgOG I was a straight up flashing fanatic but I have my moto x for about two months now and I don't miss one bit of root and even xposed... I just love the performance of this phone... Can't wait for L too
AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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This!
My last phone was a samsung and it was nearly useless with touchwiz and bloat.
The only thing that really annoys me on the moto X is the "AT&T" constantly in notification bar.
In the latest update they have an option to disable the carrier in the status bar. Should be on this screen. Mine disappeared for some reason but I looked it up and it should he there.
brian Marshall said:
This!
My last phone was a samsung and it was nearly useless with touchwiz and bloat.
The only thing that really annoys me on the moto X is the "AT&T" constantly in notification bar.
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The SDK has been released so maybe there will be a flashable ROM for us to use before they push out the update. It won't have Moto features, but it will be Lolipop.
AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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I've been the same way with my Moto X. I did try running TowelPieRoot for a few weeks recently with Xposed but was having some weird glitches so yesterday I went ahead and factory reset again and updated to 4.4.4. I don't feel like I'm missing enough to make it worth the trouble, and I want to get 5.0 on it as soon as possible which will mean not waiting till root(assuming root is possible). I've still got my Nexus 4 for flashing stuff and have been running an Android L port on it for a few months now; it's pretty awesome and I can't wait to get the new look and features on my Moto X.
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P.S. There seem to be several fellow Texans in this thread. Pretty cool.
VZW dev edition here. My experience has been similar. I am rooted since there are several Tasker things I like to do that require it. Also one or two Xposed things. Never had a glitch. I'd stay unrooted but miss the tweaks when they're not there.
The upgrade to 4.4.4 was enough of a hassle that I questioned whether to stay stock or not afterwards. But missing my Tasker apps and wifi tether led me back to root.
But damn, this phone is close to perfect.
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I've been the same way with my Moto X. I did try running TowelPieRoot for a few weeks recently with Xposed but was having some weird glitches so yesterday I went ahead and factory reset again and updated to 4.4.4. I don't feel like I'm missing enough to make it worth the trouble, and I want to get 5.0 on it as soon as possible which will mean not waiting till root(assuming root is possible). I've still got my Nexus 4 for flashing stuff and have been running an Android L port on it for a few months now; it's pretty awesome and I can't wait to get the new look and features on my Moto X.
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Rooting is very possible, Chainfire is on the job already with Supersu
Our devices are close to nexuses so i shouldn't be hard to root
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My Moto X is rooted. Does that still entail for an OTA upgrade once the Lollipop drops? Or will I need to resort to some additional tricks to make that happen?
You have to restore the stock nandroid backup and flash the stock recovery
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arj009 said:
Rooting is very possible, Chainfire is on the job already with Supersu
Our devices are close to nexuses so i shouldn't be hard to root
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Yeah it won't be hard to root if you have an unlocked bootloader. I'm keeping mine locked until my warranty runs out. There's no way of knowing if there will be another solution like TowelPieRoot to achieve root w/out unlocking the bootloader for Android 5.0.
So, with Android 5.0 on the horizon for our Moto X, should it be expected that at first lots of things will be broken with xposed, and gravity box and such?
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trentonmc24 said:
So, with Android 5.0 on the horizon for our Moto X, should it be expected that at first lots of things will be broken with xposed, and gravity box and such?
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I don't think xposed ever updated for ART support...
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I don't think xposed ever updated for ART support...
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Oh, well I guess I'll be on 4.4 until they get around to doing that. Thanks for that info.
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trentonmc24 said:
Oh, well I guess I'll be on 4.4 until they get around to doing that. Thanks for that info.
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No problem. The way xposed is now, If you switch to ART with it installed it never switches to ART.
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
ultramegaman963 said:
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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You are forgetting that there is another variant of the Turbo, the Maxx one that will come with unlockable bootloader and free of Verizon crap. People will make it their way to get on of those, and probably development will be significantly more active that with Turbo.
On the other hand, Lollipop doesn't mean no more root, there are already devices with Lollipop and gained root few days ago, so it shouldn't be a worry.
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Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Xposed doesn't work yet, but likely will in the future. And there are other things to use root for than just Xposed. Such as Tasker, AdFree, Cerberus, etc. Root works great on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, albeit without Xposed.
I mainly want/need root for ARLiberator or ARUnchained. Right now I can cast to my receiver and get sound but ARU gave full mirroring and allowed me to control my phone through my headunit (with root). Combined with Tasker to automate and it was fantastic. Xposed was real nice to have and I'm sure it will be updated for L at some point but I wasn't really using a whole lot on there I'll miss. Same goes for battery tweaker like Greenify. It was awesome with root and combined with Xposed but w/ the monster battery on this thing and the improvements with Project Volta I'm thinking I won't miss it so much.
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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You can disable those apps now which is essentially the same thing.
Disable works just as good
Hadn't tried that. Just hid them using a launcher. OK, I'll disable them. Gracias!
I don't think it's hopeless. Just look at the bounty. No, it's no guarantee a dev will obtain that full amount but it show's that we're interested.
My guess and hope is that the Middle Man will come back and we'll be able to get unlock codes. It's our best shot.
In the meantime I'll stay at KitKat and cross my fingers. Root for me will give me custom DPI's which 4.7"+ phones need so badly. Besides that I'm doing just fine without root. Yeah, a few customization options would be fine but stock Motorola Android flies!
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Without root you cannot manipulate the hosts file meaning you cannot block ads completely as you can with root. This alone is enough to make root worthwhile for me because I despise ads. I also like to change fonts at the system level and make many other customizations that require root and lollipop in no way negates those needs.
Not that my opinion or likes and dislikes matter. And that's the thing, people who say root is not needed speak for themselves just as I speak for myself and no one else. I don't ever say YOU need root or YOU do not need root because I have no business deciding what someone else does or does not need. Just saying...
I just think it's going to take some time gents. Phone has been out for what? Two weeks?
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Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Agreed. This is the on thing I really want. I can live without the rest of the stuff. If I could pay for an app that worked for wifi tether I would do that and probably be happy without root all together.
I had the RAZR maxx HD. I thought we'd never get root for the longest time. It took a while - a bunch of months, at least, but we got it.
Now, the maxx HD never was nearly as popular as the droid turbo. That's a fact.
I'm sure someone out there will find a way. It's not about if, but when. That's my opinion, at least
2 things I want root for..
Messing with speaker output
And shutter speed of the camera
This phone will probably never be rooted, but if you aren't okay with that then why would you ever buy this device?
Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why is a developers edition needed? Why dont you just unlock developer mode on the phone you get? I did.
93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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What makes you think L will be any worse than the latest 4.4.4. I think its a crap shoot it could happen either way. Do You Feel Lucky? HaHa
Can anyone guesstimate the chance of an official CyanogenMod ROM for x727 in the near future?
I'm trying to decide whether to keep the phone or send it back, as I want to get off the EUI, but don't want to loose Android Pay.
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Chances are sure better now that it has unlockable bootloader/twrp/root, but I wouldn't count on anything official. It's not a wildly popular phone. At least not yet. Unofficial is likely though. They released sources for the LP3 a while back. I can't remember if they said it was all they needed or not though.
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Just install Google or Pixel launcher, you will be fine. LP3 is still better (minus camera) and smoother than even Pixel despite having skinned MM.
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Just install Google or Pixel launcher, you will be fine. LP3 is still better (minus camera) and smoother than even Pixel despite having skinned MM.
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There's a little more like the overly aggressive app killer and the mods to the tray. Considering the cost and capabilities I think this is a great candidate for CM.
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There's a little more like the overly aggressive app killer and the mods to the tray. Considering the cost and capabilities I think this is a great candidate for CM.
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LP3 has a pretty nice app and notification management so you are covered. I am getting over 7 hours SOT on continuous usage (music, browsing, video, emails, BT) which you won't get from any flagship phones.
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There's a little more like the overly aggressive app killer and the mods to the tray. Considering the cost and capabilities I think this is a great candidate for CM.
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Just to check, do you have any apps that you feel shouldn't be getting closed set to ignore the built in auto cleaning under battery > app management?
Also, people with various android phones seem to be complaining at least a little about aggressive ram management. Even vanilla android. So it seems like it's something that needs fixing more from Google, not so much the ROM. Have you found any to NOT be killing these apps?
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It's strangely dead in here after getting our bootloaders unlocked. Any projects in the works? I could donate a few bucks if that helps.
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It's strangely dead in here after getting our bootloaders unlocked. Any projects in the works? I could donate a few bucks if that helps.
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Same here, would donate some $ for aosp or cm in their last version.
Rgrds
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Same here, would donate some $ for aosp or cm in their last version.
Rgrds
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I'm worried the folks that know how to build have returned their phones before we could unlock them [emoji37]. It is the holiday season, could just be busy with the daily grind. There's also another CM wish thread.
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Would also support any CM/AOSP developers :good:
Adding my name to the lost that would pay money. Already sent $5 to the guy that unlocked the bootloader