widgets stop updating - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

widgets stop updating - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

I just bought Samsung S7 Edge (European version) and I noticed immediately that Samsung stock weather widget stops updating after a day or so. Rebooting fixes it temporarily, but then it breaks again. I didn't root the phone so it's pretty disappointing to see such a blunt flaw in "the best phone in the world" with a hefty price tag. Anyone seen this?

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A few bugs after a week of usage

So I am trying the Samsung promo for a month and have been using the device for a week now. Here is my initial thoughts- complains/kudos/rants:
1. I still freaking hate Touchwiz. Its ugly, too complex and still has a lot of bloat. I am using touchwiz after 2-3 years now and I still feel its extremely ugly.
2. Samsung has really turned it around with the hardware. It feel premium, battery life is good and screen is stunning. The camera is probably the best out there.
3. I have noticed the small bezzles on the side causes the apps to open when I dont want to use them. This gets really annoying.
4. S-pen as actually not that bad and I use it quite a bit.
5. When the phone is locked and away, I have noticed the notification don't come up right away. I have seen Whatsapp and email notifications come in really late and show up only when I opened the app. Thought it was weird.
6. The finger print unlock works great all the time.
TLDR- Someone please make a Note 5 with Stock Android running.

I had the AT&T variant for a little over a week and took it back to the store. I found that when travelling out of state no one could hear me talk until I rebooted the phone. The same thing happened when I returned home. It also has major issues with 5ghz wifi that my HTC One M7 doesn't have. There were a few other glitches that required a reboot to clear up but I don't remember what they were at this point. It was a blistering fast phone, but I need something more reliable. I feel like if I could have rooted the thing I'd have been able to fix it. Now I'm just waiting for my chance to buy the n920i 64gb model and I'll try it again.

I get black screens sometimes. No button response for a moment. anyone facing the same issue?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note5-user-reviews-opinions-t3190343

Strange reboots after OTA

Has anyone else had this issue? I got an OTA last night around midnight, and it has rebooted itself in the middle of use twice today.

Nope

Any idea of what the OTA actually installed?

I have no clue

I'm having the same issue. Phone has rebooted 3 times today.

What version did the OTA bring your phone up to? PB4??

G935vvrs2apb4

I had sync.me installed as a way to get profile pics in contacts. I uninstalled it yesterday and it hasn't rebooted since. Seemed like it was over working the phone. Carbonad, do you have sync.me?

My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches - along with the screen turning on whenever it wants to. Yet the battery still lasts forever. I also get false touches quite a bit (mentioned in another thread by another user).
Samsung FTW. Still not as many problems as I hear all of my family and friends complaining about with their beloved iPhone. But my Samsung is "far from superior"? Lolz.
All phones matter.

Delakit said:
My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches
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I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.

Eddie Hicks said:
I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.
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I'm not totally sure what it would be cause by on the Note 5. It started after the first Marshmallow update. I can't do an OTA because it's no longer on a carrier, so I'm not sure if any updates (if released) would fix it or not. I do use Nova Prime on it for a launcher, and the device has a fair amount of apps and is loaded with widgets on 3 screens (including the home screen).
The S7 Edge doesn't do the reboots anymore since the 2nd Marshmallow update, so that's no longer an issue. After today's update, the phone isn't waking randomly anymore, so the screen is turning on randomly. I also haven't been experiencing the vibrate issue either. The device appears to be a lot more stable than previously, too.
I assume its a mixture of updates through firmware and apps that cause the issues I was experiencing, but it's difficult to say.
I only experience an "overly sensitive screen" when I play Clash of Clans and hold my finger in one spot on the screen - it'll start shaking as if I was moving my finger slightly in different directions. I just checked now and it doesn't do that anymore, so that may have been fixed.
I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.

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I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.
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That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.

Eddie Hicks said:
That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.
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I spoke too soon as most of the issues came back again.
Not sure what the problem is, but oh well.
There's been a problem with every phone I've purchased - HTC Hero, HTC Evo3D, Galaxy S4, Note 3, Note 4, Note 5, and S7 Edge.
The difference is that I was able to install custom ROM's on those older devices.
It's always something. That's how it goes.

Delakit said:
I spoke too soon as most of the issues came back again.
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I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.

Eddie Hicks said:
I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.
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Here's what is causing the random screen-on:
http://androidforums.com/threads/samsung-s7-screen-keeps-turning-on-randomly.1014655/page-2
Turns out to be the Verizon Message+ App.
After disabling that app, I no longer have that issue.
The screen, however, is still pretty... (sensitive?). There are times where the phone will act as if I tapped the screen, but I never even touched it; resulting in a clicked link, webpage moving, etc... A bit irritating, but isn't causing too much of a hassle.
In conclusion, every phone will always have a defect. Lol.
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ADDED: After disabling Message+ my charge light no longer works. Always something.
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My notification light no longer works at all. Lol. I give up.

Why I can't decide on the iPhone 6s Plus or the Galaxy S7 Edge

TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?

s7 edge....just this.

Hey friend. Just go with S7 Edge and it will not disappoint you again. I am totally love my S7e. It's very very fast and very long battery with very nice display.
Just few issue in software like random freeze and reboot (1 per week) and it will be solved by software update.

This is the first time a Samsung device surprises me having SOT like this. When S7 (not needs root) a little tweaked (no greenify or 3rd party app) has excellent battery life. I've used every samsung device since S2 (including note series), but this time they solved the battery issue. I'm on LTE network and SOT is more than 4, 4.5 hours.
Update of the samsung devices is not very well so Note has MM yet available, so don't expect N upgrades soon.
I have 6S plus, Nexus 6P and S7 Edge which I use as daily drivers (2 of them are always online). The question is do you want to use ios or android. (as I said this time samsung did the work well)
6S plus' camera is excellent you dont notice a pixel or low resolution but samsung's better. Camerawise S7E>6S+>6P
Screen quality is best on s7e and you will be happy to use (unless curved screen glare does bother you)
As far as I noticed samsung did a very good job on s7e.
Hope this helps you to decide to choose.
naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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Well, the big question (at least for me), if you'd take the edge (I can do that too[emoji14]), would you get over the already present anixity?
Because if you're not, even when there aren't the faults you experienced before, if you look close enough there can be glitches found on every device (not just talking about s7 edge, but devices from every manufacturer).
Of my own experience, I haven't got any of the problems you described, but I read from others having them in here. Some defectife units are pretty normal at such a big amount of shipped devices, but it's always hard to tell how big the percentage is of reported faults.
Let's play a bit.
Let's consider that people in here are just a fraktion of people owning the phone, let's assume 5% of all users. From those let's assume 10% (which probably is much) have an error of some kind (because there are many lurkers as well and people are much quicker in crying out load, if something isn't working as they are with telling all is fine), which would make 0.5% at all units. Now let's quadruple that amount to take people not being in here with such errors into consideration and where at 2%.
That was not even close to being sientific accurate, but I guess you get what I'm up to, the chance of you getting another unit with those faults is rather small. Also, when you're from canada you get the exynos variant, which, considering reports, has way less problems than the snapdragon variant.
Another thing, why just those 2 options, at least from what you want the G5 would be an option as well. Expandable storage, nice camera (comparable to the s7, from what I've seen it has the upper hand at light shots, while the s7 handles low light better) and maybe worse battery, but you can take a spare with you. For sure only if you're fine with dropping the IP rating, design and wireless charging for the modular design and from what I've seen it's kind of fragile compared to other flagships. Or what about the announced Huawei P9, it may have not such a good SoC, but at least from what's announced it should have an exceptional camera performance).

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TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
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Buy the s7 edge again. Had the same shutdown with no button working in the first few days too, I agree it was scary... after an update I haven't had a single reboot.
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naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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Get the global version GS7 Edge

naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
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Wait another week and see if the HTC 10 is any good.

I have the S7EDGE, none of those issues man. I can tell yoy i had the same experience with sgs4. And man was it painful, way to slow and lags like there is no tomorrow, which made me jump ship and i bought OPO. Now that iam back here at samsung i couldnt be happier. So i would advise you to make the purchase again, because if you get a good unit, which im pretty confident you will, you will have the time of your life

I have a similar feeling about Samsung. They have great hardware but software is awful. Whenever I tried Samsung, I ended up disappointed and said never again. I was using 6s+ until recently when I got S7 Edge and it is really a great phone overall. I know though that I'm not keeping it for a long time and will look later at the next nexus or iPhone 7. The reason is that it will get Android N 6 months later that Nexus and will have software issues and might probably lag as well. Addressing lag by adding memory and better processor is not a smart solution as it will not last long
Why I did switch now? the only reason is the size of the 6s+, it is very big while the S7 Edge is compact. I'm looking forward for a nice Nexus this year, if not then probably iphone 7+ if it will be smaller in size.

I switched from iPhone 6 Plus back to android S7 edge. Iphone 6 plus 6s plus are identical minus the camara n few other things. Didnt think i would ditch apple but the s7 edge is a beauty!!! Loving that i now can connect my push2tv in my truck and send vc txt as eith the iphone i could not. I hate apple with those restrictions. Annoying that i would need to buy an apple tv.
S7 edge ftw!!!

Be together...not the same.
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You obviously want the consistency of Apple; nothing wrong with that. After 5 years of Android i switched from my s6 edge to iPhone 6s Plus... And loved it for the first month because i had just been so fed up with the tiny battery and horrible RAM management of the S6E. but after that first month... I got bored. iOS is a bore in every way possible to me, the screen looks like sh*t after being used to years of AMOLED screens, and i noticed a horrific drop off in picture quality to the point where I just didn't feel like taking pictures anymore. 3D touch was cool... Until i realized i almost never used it.
Do what you need to do man, nothing wrong if you want to join the dark side. but if you're anything like me at all, you'll always feel the call to the light.
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First let me quickly say that I have not had any of the issues you seem to have had with the S7E. After this latest update from Tmobile I'm getting insane battery life. Close to 9 hours SOT and 3% drain per 8 hours in standby.
Now onto the 6S+. I have been an android user since the G1. I loved everything Android and never thought I'd buy an iPhone but last year I decided to give one a try. I wanted to see what it was like and they finally released a phone with a nice sized display. I purchased the 6+ last June and the the 6S+ in September. I thought they were nice phones and the software felt fluid but I grew bored and aggravated . I'm not going to name everything that aggravated me but I will give you two examples that did. The simplest task of making an alarm app work somehow isn't so simple on iOS. Since Apple doesn't give 3rd party apps access to the API you need to make sure you open the alarm app ever night before you fall asleep. Not only that but you also can't have your phone set to vibrate or silent because then you won't hear the alarm. I just feel like every 3rd party app on iOS works as a separate entity rather than some of them working with the phone like one cohesive unit as some do on Android.
When it comes to the Apple app store it is a jumbled up mess. Never in a million years would I have expected it to look the way it does. Good luck finding an app unless you know it's exact name because the search feature inside the app store straight up sucks. Its also a pain to navigate through. So after a few days with the app store I was missing Google Play so bad. I missed those nights when I was bored and would just sit in bed browsing through the Play Store looking for that next cool app to use. The rating system and app review system set in place on Google play are also much better than the Apple app store.
Don't even get me started with 3rd party keyboards on iOS? Go home Apple..... You're drunk!!!
I'd also just like to add one more petpeve of mine. There is no back button. Apple expects 3rd party apps to implement a feature that allows to to swipe to the left in order to go back to the previous screen but sometimes it doesn't work. Not to mention it can get pretty hard when trying to reach the top left corner of a 6S+ while using it with one hand.
I'll end this by saying it was not what I was expecting. Apple fan boys make it seem like iOS apps are so much better than Android apps. I didn't find that to be true at all. Yea there are some apps on iOS that look really good and perform nicely but there is no difference between the popular apps you're likely going to use everyday. If anything I'd say Android has better more versatile apps since they can actually work with the phone rather than something completely separate.
At the end of the day Android had more pros than cons so I decided to use the G7E as my coming home party phone. I lasted a little over half a year with my iphones and at that 6 month mark I was just bord and aggravated. I don't think ever be going back unless Apple makes some major changes.
By the way, in regards to battery life my S7E destroys my 6S+ in every way. It doesn't matter what your using them for. The S7E should inhalate the 6S+ in battery life.
Oh an 3d touch is a gimmick at this point. If implemented correctly I can see it being useful but I feel like Apple just half assed it.
Good luck in your phone endeavors.
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I just abandoned an iPhone 6s+ for the Edge and, for the most part, am very happy. The only issue I have related to the compass and the need to recalibrate after every restart. Absent the recalibration, GPS accuracy suffers. Not sure if this is specific to my phone or signs or a more general issue. I'm told the Galaxy 6 also had this issue. I do miss the Apple ecosystem integration as I also use a MacBook Air.

Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.

DroidBiteApple said:
Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.
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I just got the S7 Edge (Exynos = International version) last week, and I couldn't be happier! I moved from a Sony device which has been a real champ through my two years with it (and it's still kicking ass), but I felt like I needed something new. Nothing caught my attention before Samsung announced the S7 Edge. It was, and is, freaking beautiful. I was close to buying the S6 Edge last year, but I didn't do it because of the battery, but this year, hell yeah.
The display, as you already know, is amazing. It's the best mobile display in the world today, and you know it. It has an SD card slot which supports up to 2 TB of memory (Samsung says 200 GB since that's the biggest one you'll get today, but it supports 2 TB). The battery, ooh - the battery. It's ridiculous. My Exynos device just won't die in a day. I'm a medium to heavy user, but good lord, I'm struggling to get it under 50% after a day. I really am.
A buddy of mine has the 6S Plus. He "hates me" now, since I got the S7 Edge. He can clearly see that he has the inferior device. The iPhone is still very very good - for a certain type of people! But some people expect somewhat more out of a 1000 dollar device (yes, that' what I paid for mine), and I have never held a mobile device that has felt as expensive as the Edge. I have the gold version on top of that, so it feels like handling a gold phone (without the weight of gold, of course) when I pick it up. It is fantastic.
Bloat? Mine's not a carrier version so I don't have any carrier bloat, but I do have the Samsung bloat. Luckily, it can mostly be disabled, so that's not an issue. Most of the bloat doesn't take space either since Samsung uses "shells", i.e they don't install whole apps at start, but Chrome f.ex is only 10KB on my device when I disable it (I prefer Samsung Internet with adblock), and it won't "balloon" up to its regular 100MB or whatever unless you update it through the Play Store. It's the same with Facebook etc. The device also comes with 4 GB of RAM, but 512 of those are dedicated to the GPU, so we have 3.5 GB for applications.
I came from a relatively bloat-free Sony device, scared for the Samsung bloat-monster, but I freaking LOVE it. Your little reboot issue must have been a weird bug or glitch, and the US models have received a huge update since you got rid of yours, correcting a lot of bugs and issues (correct me if I'm wrong, people), so I would get the Edge again.
Keep in mind that I have the Exynos version, so keep in mind that some thing will be a little different. Do I recommend this beast? Yes. It's definitely a head-turner, the hardware is the best I've ever seen and the software is solid (but you could encounter a bug or two, like you did).
You wrote a lengthy post, so you deserve something better than "get the s7, it kicks butt", or whatever. Got any questions? Not a problem.

You might as well just wait for the iPhone 7s if you're so interested in apple
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Would you still buy one today?

I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?

No it's not
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It does not have a stable root solution. It is very laggy. I've told my wife when my GS7E and her Note 5 are paid off, we are going with off contract phones. You can now get phones from Sony, Huawei, and others that rival the performance of flagships, for around $300. And they usually have root.
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No - it's been my least favorite phone.

::sigh::
I wish I had seen this before I stopped back in at the local AT&T store. I went ahead and opted to try out the S7 Edge, and I have to say, I haven't been terribly impressed so far. The edge, in particular, feels more like a hindrance than a help - especially with the keyboard. I manage to miss all the keys along the edges pretty reliably.
I was also surprised by how much lag there is in the stock "as it came from the factory" ROM. I had read that Samsung had managed to dramatically reduce the lag in TouchWiz, and my Galaxy Tab S2 didn't seem all that bad. Given it has a technically slower SoC (the SD652 vs the SD820), I was a bit shocked at some of the things I saw - like the Play store taking 10s of seconds to populate, app lists seeming to take forever to populate, etc.
My hope is that it's still settling, so I'm going to resist the urge to take it back tomorrow and see how it does by Monday. However, at the moment, I'm not nearly as thrilled with this device as I was when I got my M8 back in 2014.

Take it back. Root is piss poor on this device. If you drop it, even off the couch, it'll more than likely crack one of the 2 glass screens (front and back) and for that kind of money, you'd expect better quality

I have had root on every phone except this one. Once I disabled most Samsung stuff and replaced the launcher, the pho e is quite snappy. However, I could have paid half and got the same experience plus root. The only positive going for this phone is the build quality, it is a premium feeling phone. Hopefully this new root method that is supposedly being developed and tested pans out.
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I get the feeling most of the issues here are with the bloat. I sometimes forget that I haven't run a carrier branded ROM in ages. I ran stripped down stock on my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, and the US Developer Edition on my HTC One M8 - so I almost never see the death star on my devices. Even my Galaxy Tab S2 had some issues when I first got it that were entirely solved by disabling a lot of the bloat on it. Now it actually runs quite well compared to when I bought it, which is what tempted me to try the S7.
I would go with the unbranded stock ROM, but unfortunately, the U version on this device means giving up a lot - VoLTE, HD calling, and WiFi calling - as well as visual voicemail, but that's pretty easy to live without. It's still tempting, but I have to admit, this is the roughest transition I have ever had to a new device.
The SGS2 was brain-dead easy to alter, and I had CWM and SuperSU on there fast. The HTC One M8 was S-off and running US developer the same day. It goes without saying that the Nexus 7 was trivial to root/mod. What amazes me the most, though, is that my 2.5 year old M8 running MM feels less janky than this phone at times, despite it's SD801 SoC vs the SD820 in the S7E . It's just amazing - but I blame the AT&T crap for most of that.
I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.

The s7 edge is on sale everwhere, if you can get a great deal on the international version and you don't mind to have last year's tech than the s7 is total worth it, root and development is great on the international version, I even got volte working I have no complaints, I use to have the att version and I wish I switched to international version sooner

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I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still beu competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I usue a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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It's a good phone but I certainly would not root it. This is from personal experience because mine is rooted and stuck in bootloop which I am currently lookingfor a solution to.

I'm going to go in the other direction than some others on the thread. I think this has been one of the better devices around. Since the Nougat update, it's become a even better device, my battery life has gotten way better too. If I were looking now ( and not needing a device right NOW), I would be waiting for the S8 Edge (since it should be dropping within the next month or 2)
As far as root goes, I've not rooted my device and honestly haven't seen any need for root for a couple of years now.
To answer your last question, it's a GREAT device and if the S8 wasn't coming soon and I needed a device now, I would choose it again over ANY of the current devices out there
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I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.
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I have ZERO issues with mine, I might take the plunge and do a factory reset and take a look at disabling some of the AT&T bloat as well.

I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.

jshamlet said:
I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.
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Yeah, the camera is pretty awesome. I'd consider a factory reset, it can be a bit of work, but I think it could help.

jshamlet said:
I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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The root for this is trash, no fault of the root. I had a T-Mobile variant and I was resetting it every 3 or 4 weeks due to lock ups and crashes. Same with AT&T. I got fed up with the root on it, and got Disabler Pro and eliminated so much junk, it's been a great phone ever since. The only thing I miss in root is the ability to change the icons in the notifications bar and the adblockers that were a lot better, but other than that, the phone is more stable, doesn't have the bloatware, and doesn't frighten me to reboot it while driving home and the phone crashing on boot. I'd still get it, but I'd probably opt at this point to get the Indian variant with 128GB and pearl black for what my pay off would be for this 32GB.

Help with installing the Samsung Phone App on LG V20

I'm running LG V20 on T-Mobile with h91810D build LH-H918 Deodex NRD90M rom rooted with unlocked bootloader and trying to install the samsung phone app simply because I love how clean the dialer is on the Galaxy S8 with the fading in-call background.
I'm running into an issue trying to install the dialer on my phone with the error "The package conflicts with an existing package by the same name"
I've tried all I could to uninstall all the phone related apps on the V20 that I would think that could conflict with the install going as far as completely destroying the calling functions on the phone (thank god for backups) but still running into the same error.
I've tried all I can even as far as attempting to resign the file even thought I'm clueless as to how any of it works so I'm sure I did it wrong so now I turn it over to the XDA community to try and help to see if it is possible or if samsung locks down their apps so well that it's not possible.
I am unable to upload the APK here so I'm sharing a link to where I installed it from (APKMirror) for anyone who wants to give it a shot and offer any advice they can to see if I can get this working.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/samsung-phone/samsung-phone-2-1-02-40-release/samsung-phone-2-1-02-40-android-apk-download/

I'm sorry if this sounds critical but this is like the 5th thread I've run across in 10 minutes with someone who has an LG V20 but wants (for some reason that is beyond my ability to comprehend at this late/early hour) to install Samsung bloatware on it. Does LG not pack enough of their own bloatware into their phones that now we must port it over from the undisputed king of useless space consuming bloatware? Seriously. I'm baffled. AF. I just came from the SM-G935T which was so annoying that once the display got seriously effed TF up I opted to finance an entirely different phone instead of throwing $175 down the drain to get someone else's refurbished S7 Edge. So now I'm a year out from paying off my overrated Edge, which I refuse to drop almost 2 bills into just so it doesn't slice my delicate digits up when I'm playing Archery King At best I'd possibly get it fixed for the purposes of an immediate trade-in/upgrade but seriously, who would want it? Janky root? ☒ Weird rounded off edges making an already delicate display even more delicate? ☒ Bootloader locked tf down like it's a goddamn iPhone 8 (or whatever they're on )? ☒ 32 pitiful GB of storage, half of which ( OK slight exaggeration but for reals, yo ) is packed from floor to rafters with every conceivable type of useless, non-descript, shady AF Sammy/T-Mo bloatware? ☒ Aaaaand the list goes on. And on. And f*****g on. And still, I wouldn't trade my new LG V20 for two S8+ AND a Google Pixel (make it an XL, a OP5 plus some accessories of value and we'll talk ). SO PLEASE FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE TO INSTALL REALLY GENERIC SAMSUNG GARBAGE ON YOUR LG V20?! I'll trade you my busted up S7 Edge for your obviously unappreciated (or at least underappreciated) LG V20 :fingers-crossed: And the Incipio case that looks great and doesn't interfere with all that Edge swiping action, if that's your bag, nor does it interfere with the pavement smashing every last oversaturated glossy AMOLED inch, you know, ALL 5.5 laggy inches (yeah, Ikr :laugh: that's all ) of that glass (front and back btw - because that's how I do). There's bound to be 1000 better 3rd party substitutions available for any given Samsung app you're seeking so desperately to inject into a perfectly non-infected LG. I've lost all understanding of the world we live in. You should just buy a Samsung. Get it out of your system and be better for it. Ask around XDA. Tons of helpful types with many potential suggestions that will more than suit whatever bizarre needs and wants a guy (or girl. Or guy-girl/girl-guy. I'm open minded af) might have. Seriously though. Your phone probably will not accept anything from Sammy on basic principle alone. That's just f*****g weird s**t, my strange interweb comrade :cyclops:

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