Hi,
So i recently bought a used LG VU3 after my beloved Meizu M1 Note was stolen.
In the Meizu, the mobile network indicator on the top bar could show one of a couple of states, depends on network coverage and speed - G, E, H and 4G .
The LG on the other hand, shows only one of two states - 2G or 3G.
The internet speeds are also considerably slower, 3G is very slow, and with 2G indication it's impossible to do anything on the internet.
Is that supposed to be like that? Or does my LG have a worse wireless network Tx\Rx that it only practically function on one of those two states?
Is that the case with all the LG phones from this generation (Because i'm planning on getting a used G Pro if there's a specific issue with the VU3)? [G Pro, G2, GX etc.]
Thanks
Can you please explain what this issue has to do with Paranoid Android ROM?
Pirateghost said:
Can you please explain what this issue has to do with Paranoid Android ROM?
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Wow, your'e totally correct, i mistakenly posted it in the wrong sub-forum. Mods would you mind transferring it to the correct forum?
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I have crappy signal with my 01 A model G2. I replaced it to fix the loose hinge issue but this one came with an issue of its own, signal dropping. . .For example when I am on a call signal drops to GPRS or the signal will fluctate violently from HSPDA to no signal during regular use. Does anyone else have those issues with their replacement? I am trying to get a replacement, but they haven't recieved my old phone yet so I cant get one yet.
Don't let me get started on the slow data speeds on HSDPA ;(.
I was having the same problem with my first g2 but I just got the replacement and this one works great ..
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You can have your G2 replaced to fix the hinge issue? If so, by whom, and what if you're permarooted? Sorry if this was mentioned elsewhere, I haven't really checked sections other than development. Thanks!
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That's cool, but no one has enough info to even help you. Signal and the HSPA speeds have little to do with the device and virtually everything to do with network and location. What's your typical dBm on HSDPA? What were your old speeds averaging? Do you have the OTA installed?
Beyond that, did you try calling tmo? There may be data issues in your area and if not, they can always file a trouble ticket for your MSISDN for 3G data speeds.
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Its not speeds or anything specific. Its just darn right slow lol, much laggier than my old one for some odd reason. Of course I had it replaced with T-Mobile and I called them to see if the G2 I sent them has reached them yet and it hasn't. . .I did OTA as the radio I posted in my sig is from the OTA.
Also yes you can have T-Mobile warranty replace your G2 or HTC.
Why do you expect HSDPA to be fast? It's only 3G... HSPA+ is the fast network.
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ibemad1 said:
Why do you expect HSDPA to be fast? It's only 3G... HSPA+ is the fast network.
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I think he's referring to HSPA in general and regardless on the Android devices it won't ever indicate if you're in HSPA+ - it just states HSDPA in the phone/net information.
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Why do you expect HSDPA to be fast? It's only 3G... HSPA+ is the fast network.
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It's all relative. 3G data speeds were a lot faster than 2G (GSM). HSDPA is a lot faster than basic 3G data. HSPA+ is a lot faster than HSDPA.
But of course it all depends what speeds you actually achieve within those bands, too.
I'm in UK on O2 network. I know I have good HSDPA coverage, there's nothing wrong with signal, network or the simcard as I have 5 other smartphones available to me which I've tried the simcard in.
Basically the problem is it only shows as 3G & not H in the notification bar. Does that mean the Nexus S is not HSDPA compatible even though the spec sheet say it is or is it a bug or something.
It will show 3G when on HSPA. It's how Google designed it.
I noticed the same 'issue' Samsung Galaxy S and HTC phones all say H for HSDPA speed conections. I got most confused with my nexus S. I'm also on O2 in the UK.
In any case OP goto settings>about phone>status and look at Mobile Network Type it will say HSDPA.
Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!
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Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!
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I've entered this as a feature request on Google's Android Code site: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13561
Please star it to help get it attention.
(Please avoid "me too" or "fix this" type comments that don't add additional information to further describe the request or bug, as these comments are then emailed to everyone who has starred the issue and some consider it as bad as spam. I've un-starred comments myself because of all the pointless emails.)
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I noticed the same 'issue' Samsung Galaxy S and HTC phones all say H for HSDPA speed conections. I got most confused with my nexus S. I'm also on O2 in the UK.
In any case OP goto settings>about phone>status and look at Mobile Network Type it will say HSDPA.
Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!
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It's a cosmetic thing and has no bearing on what type of speeds you pull.
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It's a cosmetic thing and has no bearing on what type of speeds you pull.
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^ What he said. Also not all HTC phones display "H." The only ones that I'm aware of that do it out of the box are the MT4G and G2 due to changes in Android by T-Mobile.
You might be thinking about the custom ROMs where developers usually will add the ability to the notification bar framework for it to display 3G or H depending on what you're currently connected to (UTMS vs HSDPA). You're usually only on UTMS if you have a weak signal, or if you're idling(as in the phone isn't currently pulling down/sending up information). Once you start doing something, it'll automatically flip over to HSDPA.
I do miss the H i had on my N1 with CM6
hopefully CM7 hits beta soon
HSPA is still 3g...its not lying to you lol. You just won't know when you have acess to FASTER 3g lol
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You can actually enable it yourself if you decompile framework-res.apk, modify it (res/value/books.xml), recompile and replace the stock one.
I have read a lot already on this site about my issue just wanted to clear up a few unanswered questions.
I am looking to switch from Verizon to t-mobile because of prices and terrible reception where I'm living in Riverside Ca. So I know that I can simply put in a t-mobile sim and change to the correct gsm settings and get cell reception (correct me if I'm wrong) but what about getting LTE from t-mobile? I have looked to see if the new 700 mhz band covers here and Ventura County Ca. (where I am when I'm not in Riverside) and it does so I should get LTE without having to put in a custom Rom, correct?
I'm a novice when coming to roms (plus a failed attempt) so i would like to avoid them as much as I can. Will do it if I have to though... All about saving $$$$
Thanks for the replies.
@mjmjpfaff
I know what your saying about saving $$$ phones these days are almost the half of a old car/price of a motorcycle.
If your Verizon phone is not simlocked and also has support for the LTE bands which T-Mobile is using then it's possible to get LTE working without the need to buy another phone. If it's mentioned on internet on multiple sites that the G2 supports that LTE band then you can get it without a custom rom.
In my eyes it's possible to have working LTE from T-Mobile on your verizon phone, but to be 100% sure I would contact Verizon support about your question.
I also had many fail attempts with custom roms first but after you get how it works, you can flash anything as smooth as butter:good:
you could also wait for a VS980 G2 user who had the same issue as you but I think that it would take you more time awaiting for a reaction from somebody since not many people are browsing the Q&A section.
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@mjmjpfaff
I know what your saying about saving $$$ phones these days are almost the half of a old car/price of a motorcycle.
If your Verizon phone is not simlocked and also has support for the LTE bands which T-Mobile is using then it's possible to get LTE working without the need to buy another phone. If it's mentioned on internet on multiple sites that the G2 supports that LTE band then you can get it without a custom rom.
In my eyes it's possible to have working LTE from T-Mobile on your verizon phone, but to be 100% sure I would contact Verizon support about your question.
I also had many fail attempts with custom roms first but after you get how it works, you can flash anything as smooth as butter:good:
you could also wait for a VS980 G2 user who had the same issue as you but I think that it would take you more time awaiting for a reaction from somebody since not many people are browsing the Q&A section.
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I found this on another thread:
"I just switched from a Verizon Galaxy Note 2 to the G2 since all I can get from it with t-mobile is H+ speeds (about 4mbs-6mbs). I inserted the t-mobile sim into the verizon g2 and it automatically switched to global mode and I then went in to edit the apn settings to fast.t-mobile.com. 4G LTE is working just fine on stock rom kitkat update (I'm in L.A. suburb). Speeds range from 15mbs to 30mbs+ depending on where I am in the city. Here are some screenshots"
This guy is pretty much in my area and sounds like he did not do anything other switch in a t-mobile sim...
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2609607&page=4 --> first post on that page)
I will DM him to get some more insight.
Thanks for your reply.
I'm using my droid mini on tmobile and am getting LTE speeds. You should see them if you're in an area where the network was refarmed to 1900mhz
Keep in mind the fastest speeds you will see is 21Mbps unless you swap for the Tmobile Verizon which goes up to 42Mbps and higher.
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I'm using my droid mini on tmobile and am getting LTE speeds. You should see them if you're in an area where the network was refarmed to 1900mhz
Keep in mind the fastest speeds you will see is 21Mbps unless you swap for the Tmobile Verizon which goes up to 42Mbps and higher.
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What area or state are you in if you don't mind me a asking?
Chicago area
Hi I too am using t-mobile on a VS980 and with CM11 and Cloudyg3, I am able to get LTE through their automated APN settings!
Hey guys,
So I'm in the market to possibly replace my Sony Xperia Z3 and I'm intrigued by the sheer awesomeness that is the Note. I'm wondering if I ordered the phone from china, would I be able to use it with an AT&T Sim card and have cellular access? I don't need FULL LTE speeds, though I'd like to have close to that.Sorry for the newb question! I couldn't find an answer to this anywhere.
Cheers,
Bump! Still need this information. Thanks!
You will get EDGE ans GPRS... I'm on Rogers in Canada and I think it will be the same for AT&T....
On the flip side you get great battery life...
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G on AT&T
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You will get EDGE ans GPRS... I'm on Rogers in Canada and I think it will be the same for AT&T....
On the flip side you get great battery life...
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I have tested using my AT&T SIM card in the USA. I have the export model which says fdd-lte/tdd-lte/wcdma/gsm on the box label. I get H, or H+ next to Mobile strength to pop up on the top header which I believe is GPRS. It also says AT&T 3G on the top header, so I don't believe you can get LTE in the States. As stated, battery life is excellent. I'm still on V5. Struggling to upgrade to V6. There seem to be many links and different versions of V6 for the 4G. I have tried them all, but I get a big X and a stop message in Chinese, so I'm not sure what any of it means. It just reboots to V5. Will keep exploring.
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I have tested using my AT&T SIM card in the USA. I have the export model which says fdd-lte/tdd-lte/wcdma/gsm on the box label. I get H, or H+ next to Mobile strength to pop up on the top header which I believe is GPRS.
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What type of download speeds are you getting on the Note with AT&T non-LTE?
I am looking at purchasing the Note Pro and trying to get a comparison.
Thanks.
Speeds on AT&T 3G
tbfl said:
What type of download speeds are you getting on the Note with AT&T non-LTE?
I am looking at purchasing the Note Pro and trying to get a comparison.
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Sorry, just noticed your post. It varies but on my last test I got a Ping of 21 ms, Download of 6Mbps (it seemed to slow down as the test proceeded) and Upload of 6.4 Mbps. Still running on 3G. When I get H+ the download speed seems to go faster, but the upload much slower. Again speeds seem to vary, depending on the signal.
I tried to modify the phone to get AT&T LTE bands, but no go.
I am using Redmi note 4(bought in India). I have H2o sim, which use AT&T network. I am getting LTE here in Texas. and download speed 3.5 MBps and 0.74 Upload. not bad for my usage.
Hello,
I bought the unlocked Moto G4 from best buy last week to use with ATT. I started the phone initially without any sim card in it. Next time i restarted i put in the sim card and it detected as att sim card and everything seems to work until when I notice that when i am in my office building I only see H and not 4G LTE. I had Nokia 640 earlier which was ATT go phone and i was getting 4G LTE on it in my office building. And I have also got LTE earlier on other phone in same building. I checked the APN settings and they looked ok since I am getting 4G LTE at most of the places. chatted/talked to ATT and they are of no help, they are saying that since its not ATT and unlocked phone, there is no guarantee that you will get lte everywhere and may be the antenna could be weak on the phone. But I am just not sure if I got a faulty piece or what. Since even the lower end lumia 640 was giving me lte in my office building. I am not sure if I should just return and get another piece or just return it for this issue.
Any help is much appreciated..
There are several good apps on Play that show you cell signal strengths and such. Do a search in Play for "cell signal info" and try one of those apps. It will at least give you a place to start and a comparison tool to compare phones.
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I own a G3 and a Moto X Pure, I am on AT&T and have noticed the past few days LTE seems very... umm, weak I guess... at least in the Minneapolis/St Paul area, and my phone was falling back to HSPA+ way more often than "normal" this week (I travel here every week). I thought I was crazy but maybe there is more too it than that. I do know that AT&T has been doing lots of upgrades recently and rolling out LTE-A, or at least some kind of LTE upgrade, in some areas. Back home my LTE speeds consistenyl went from 20Mbps to 70Mbps down and 5Mbps to 25Mbps up in the last couple of weeks.
Best thing to do would be get a signal strength app, like LTE Discovery or Network Signal Info, and compare it to another phone on the same carrier in the same area and band (LTE Discovery will tell you the LTE Band you are using). Remember that not all phones report it the same, it can be wildly different, but it might give you some insight.
My point is, it may not be your hardware... and Moto's in general are known for really good signal reception. Just do some due diligence before returning it, but if you feel it is hardware, but all means exchange it.
thanks guys..will try it out..
Maybe I am being paranoid, but sometimes I wonder if cell carriers some how optimize their LTE signal to work better with their own phones. I have noticed this on T-Mobile when I always seem to get a stronger signal with a T-Mobile branded phone than with a third party unlocked device.
heap1 said:
Maybe I am being paranoid, but sometimes I wonder if cell carriers some how optimize their LTE signal to work better with their own phones. I have noticed this on T-Mobile when I always seem to get a stronger signal with a T-Mobile branded phone than with a third party unlocked device.
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LOL... No, carriers have the ROM modified to make the icon show more bars on their subsidized phones. They can't actually throttle 3rd party phones on the same plan as a carrier branded ones, legally at least.
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LOL... No, carriers have the ROM modified to make the icon show more bars on their subsidized phones. They can't actually throttle 3rd party phones on the same plan as a carrier branded ones, legally at least.
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That's what I thought., although I still wonder why I usually get a better LTE signal with T-Mobile branded phones. This seems to be especially noticeable since I have upgraded to Marshmallow. Recently, I have or have owned a T-Mobile LG G4, an LG G3, an Axon Pro, and a Moto X Pure. As a rule I have noticed the signal strength being stronger on the T-Mobile branded phones.
heap1 said:
That's what I thought., although I still wonder why I usually get a better LTE signal with T-Mobile branded phones. This seems to be especially noticeable since I have upgraded to Marshmallow. Recently, I have or have owned a T-Mobile LG G4, an LG G3, an Axon Pro, and a Moto X Pure. As a rule I have noticed the signal strength being stronger on the T-Mobile branded phones.
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Actual signal strength or the icon? LTE Discovery usually shows the truth...
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This is based on readings from LTE Discovery, not the number of bars the phone is displaying. I suppose you could also come to the conclusion that LG phones have a stronger radio signal than other phones.
I'm having the same problem with both of my g4's in my area and seattle international airport... if it's not working there... then where will it work?
kevin347 said:
Hello,
I bought the unlocked Moto G4 from best buy last week to use with ATT. I started the phone initially without any sim card in it. Next time i restarted i put in the sim card and it detected as att sim card and everything seems to work until when I notice that when i am in my office building I only see H and not 4G LTE. I had Nokia 640 earlier which was ATT go phone and i was getting 4G LTE on it in my office building. And I have also got LTE earlier on other phone in same building. I checked the APN settings and they looked ok since I am getting 4G LTE at most of the places. chatted/talked to ATT and they are of no help, they are saying that since its not ATT and unlocked phone, there is no guarantee that you will get lte everywhere and may be the antenna could be weak on the phone. But I am just not sure if I got a faulty piece or what. Since even the lower end lumia 640 was giving me lte in my office building. I am not sure if I should just return and get another piece or just return it for this issue.
Any help is much appreciated..
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AlexanderJohn said:
I'm having the same problem with both of my g4's in my area and seattle international airport... if it's not working there... then where will it work?
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Yeah well I ended up keeping the phone. Someone else in the same building also reported lower quality signal with even Iphone and moto g4, all other areas we are getting lte so guess, i took my chances.
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I'm having the same problem with both of my g4's in my area and seattle international airport... if it's not working there... then where will it work?
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Using "nxtgenphone" APN? Sometimes LTE doesn't work unless you do
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I ended up calling att and they provisioned my line for lte. Fixed both phones.
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