No H symbol in notification bar - Nexus S General

I'm in UK on O2 network. I know I have good HSDPA coverage, there's nothing wrong with signal, network or the simcard as I have 5 other smartphones available to me which I've tried the simcard in.
Basically the problem is it only shows as 3G & not H in the notification bar. Does that mean the Nexus S is not HSDPA compatible even though the spec sheet say it is or is it a bug or something.

It will show 3G when on HSPA. It's how Google designed it.

I noticed the same 'issue' Samsung Galaxy S and HTC phones all say H for HSDPA speed conections. I got most confused with my nexus S. I'm also on O2 in the UK.
In any case OP goto settings>about phone>status and look at Mobile Network Type it will say HSDPA.
Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!

sjtscott said:
Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!
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I've entered this as a feature request on Google's Android Code site: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13561
Please star it to help get it attention.
(Please avoid "me too" or "fix this" type comments that don't add additional information to further describe the request or bug, as these comments are then emailed to everyone who has starred the issue and some consider it as bad as spam. I've un-starred comments myself because of all the pointless emails.)

sjtscott said:
I noticed the same 'issue' Samsung Galaxy S and HTC phones all say H for HSDPA speed conections. I got most confused with my nexus S. I'm also on O2 in the UK.
In any case OP goto settings>about phone>status and look at Mobile Network Type it will say HSDPA.
Personally I'd like google to fix this as 3G data rate is slower!
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It's a cosmetic thing and has no bearing on what type of speeds you pull.

SphericalPuma said:
It's a cosmetic thing and has no bearing on what type of speeds you pull.
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^ What he said. Also not all HTC phones display "H." The only ones that I'm aware of that do it out of the box are the MT4G and G2 due to changes in Android by T-Mobile.
You might be thinking about the custom ROMs where developers usually will add the ability to the notification bar framework for it to display 3G or H depending on what you're currently connected to (UTMS vs HSDPA). You're usually only on UTMS if you have a weak signal, or if you're idling(as in the phone isn't currently pulling down/sending up information). Once you start doing something, it'll automatically flip over to HSDPA.

I do miss the H i had on my N1 with CM6
hopefully CM7 hits beta soon

HSPA is still 3g...its not lying to you lol. You just won't know when you have acess to FASTER 3g lol
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You can actually enable it yourself if you decompile framework-res.apk, modify it (res/value/books.xml), recompile and replace the stock one.

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[Q] HSPA in Los Angeles and Tethering+making phone call

Try the search function, and could not come up with the answer
I'm currently using the Vibrant with a download of 3-5.5Mbps Download in Los Angeles in the same area (downtown Los Angeles). My phone register only as 3G.
Does this change when it switches to HSPA+? What does the icon say (in the upper right corner)? I'm never seen it change to the "HSPA+ icon". Is there an HSPA+ icon? Or do I have to configure the phone from 3g to HSPA+?
While tethering with Samsung Kies, is it possible to make or receive phone call?
My handset states "MTP application" with a picture of a USB cable on the screen and it's non responsive during Tethering.
Thanks in advance!
Assuming you're on Tmo, there is currently no phone on the network that uses HSPA+ connections. The first will be the G2.
If you have HSPA where you are, you may already be connected, but the 3G up top won't change. Not unless the phone is programmed to. But I don't think most ROMs utilize this feature, since people were freaking out since Cyanogen did so.
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They freaked out because of the H icon, we get HSPA+ up to 7.2mb.
franky1029 said:
Assuming you're on Tmo, there is currently no phone on the network that uses HSPA+ connections. The first will be the G2.
If you have HSPA where you are, you may already be connected, but the 3G up top won't change. Not unless the phone is programmed to. But I don't think most ROMs utilize this feature, since people were freaking out since Cyanogen did so.
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Thanks for the info. Damn, maybe I should have jump ship to Sprint (EPIC)....Their 69.99+10 plan sounds mighty tempting....
Yes I have T-Mo at the moment..Loyalty Calling plan+400 message +Android (24.99) for 79.00 as well
Sprint 4G is slow. T-Mobile's HSPDA is faster and HSPA+ kicks its *** hard.
DarkAgent said:
Sprint 4G is slow. T-Mobile's HSPDA is faster and HSPA+ kicks its *** hard.
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QFT. Just get the G2 if you need that extra speed.
sfdentist1996 said:
Try the search function, and could not come up with the answer
I'm currently using the Vibrant with a download of 3-5.5Mbps Download in Los Angeles in the same area (downtown Los Angeles). My phone register only as 3G.
Does this change when it switches to HSPA+? What does the icon say (in the upper right corner)? I'm never seen it change to the "HSPA+ icon". Is there an HSPA+ icon? Or do I have to configure the phone from 3g to HSPA+?
While tethering with Samsung Kies, is it possible to make or receive phone call?
My handset states "MTP application" with a picture of a USB cable on the screen and it's non responsive during Tethering.
Thanks in advance!
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Samsung Vibrant is not an HSPA+ device. As of 9/11/2010 there are no true HSPA+ devices on T-Mobile yet, however the G2 coming soon... will be the first HSPA+ device.
Next, your Vibrant is already capable of up to 7mbps download, most people like myself already get 5mbps.
So my question to you is, why is HSPA+ which offers 7+mbps so important. I really don't understand what people do on their phones, for them to notice a difference between 5mbps and 8mbps. Really, what do you do on the internet, on your tiny 4 inch screen, that would make you notice the difference in 3mbps.
I also hope you tether responsibily. Meaning you use it in life and death situations. People who abuse tether is horrible, and will lead to T-mobile turning to tiered data plans.
I had a tmo tech tell me our phones will support hsdpa+ or w/e it is lol when it rolls outs with speeds of 21mb download. Maybe he was wrong?
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I was under the impression that the great thing about HSPA+ is that it's compatible with 3G phones.
Hmm... I guess I can't post links because I'm a new user. Anyway, copy and paste this link: youtube.com/watch?v=gGmUvFfizS8
Skip to 2:25
He flashed his Vibrant to Froyo using, I'm guessing, Eugene's build - the blue box on top will show 'H' every now and then.
Apexsilverevo said:
I had a tmo tech tell me our phones will support hsdpa+ or w/e it is lol when it rolls outs with speeds of 21mb download. Maybe he was wrong?
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Yes, he was wrong.
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sfdentist1996 said:
Try the search function, and could not come up with the answer
I'm currently using the Vibrant with a download of 3-5.5Mbps Download in Los Angeles in the same area (downtown Los Angeles). My phone register only as 3G.
Does this change when it switches to HSPA+? What does the icon say (in the upper right corner)? I'm never seen it change to the "HSPA+ icon". Is there an HSPA+ icon? Or do I have to configure the phone from 3g to HSPA+?
While tethering with Samsung Kies, is it possible to make or receive phone call?
My handset states "MTP application" with a picture of a USB cable on the screen and it's non responsive during Tethering.
Thanks in advance!
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The icon doesn't change but if you look in the settings>about phone>status mobile network type it will sometimes changes to hsdpa but then it changes back to umts, after the internet connection is not being used
There is SO much confusion here..
The Vibrant supports HSPA upto 7.2Mbps.
Although the Vibrant can't go all the way up to 21Mbps, it CAN take advantage of speeds up to 7.2Mbps and when anyone says the Vibrant will support HSPA+, this is what they mean - to an extent but not completely. The increased backhaul means that HSPA for everyone goes faster.
7.2Mbps is faster than most home internet connections
. My home internet is only 5Mbps. I would NOT be shocked if the G2 barely if ever goes above 7Mbps.. it's just a fact that we ALL share network traffic and if someone is streaming Netflix, Playing PS3 online, that we all see a reduction in speed.. so, until 42Mbps next year I wouldn't expect to see these huge increases in speed with a HSPA+ device.
Sprint's 4G network will be so spotty that it's not even funny. If you think T-Mobile in general is spotty you haven't dealt with Sprint and Clear. The 4G connection will drop out often if you move and will never make it inside of any building unless the tower is across the street and even then, the signal will be weak or nonexistant. You can't do Voice and Data at the same time with EV-DO REV.A
When you see the 3G icon, you can do calls/data at the same time but the MTP application limits what you can do with the phone, to solve this install WiFi tether or MobileAP.

[CLOSED/G2] 3G/HSPA+ Issue

Well, not sure if anyone else has had this issue with their G2 yet, but I got mine today and found that the 3G/HSPA+ (I'm in Austin and we're an HSPA+ location) doesn't work. Edge is working fine, wireless works fine, but I had no hi speed data.
Spent a while on the phone with T-Mobile and they tried everything. Swapped SIM cards for the new one, master reset, checked my coverage area, checked my account, etc. No dice. Phone has been deemed defective. Grrr...my brand new G2 birthday gift. Oh well, replacement is being shipped out.
oh that just sucks... oooooooo i need to get home and open mine also now! and pray for the H lol... hspa+ area also
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
The "H" means you definitely have HSPA. The only way you'll know the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is probably the speed. Unless there's something in the testing menu that shows you the difference.
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it should actually say "H+" if you in a HSPA+ area
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
Du22ty said:
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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you are correct.
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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Ellises said:
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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You probably won't until they throw the switches on in all areas of your town. only like 10% of the towers in mine actually use HSPA+... the other 90% at still on HPSA/UTMS. Give it more time...
This is the one single aspect about the G2 that kicks the N1's butt. The 3G connection and radio reliability is awesome! Everything else is a wash for me. I'm actually starting to like the keyboard a little, too.
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I git a h g the e my house sucks I only get e inside ill test it out speed test tomorrow when im not home
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
sccpmusc26 said:
I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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http://www.dailytech.com/TMobile+Expands+4GLike+HSPA+Network/article18741.htm
I've also called to verify. Columbia doesn't have HSPA+, Charleston does.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
sccpmusc26 said:
That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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Oh wow, I feel retarded. In my defense, it's not marked on the map! I hope the Greenville/Anderson towers reach Clemson!
Telus 3G icon and H icon
If I can ask for one more clarification.
Up here in the Great White North I am with Telus who has HSPA+ coverage in my area : Montreal (no 2G available at all)
The icon on my Desire shows 3G unless I am accessing data then it flashes the H with the up and down arrows.
I am assume this is correct and the "H" only makes an appearance when it needs to access the data network. The rest of the time it stays as 3G
Important today as they had major connection issues and the H was not appearing even when I was trying to browse or update Facebook.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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H is hsdpa
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zephirus said:
Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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Yeah. I've seen speedtests on youtube and the G2 has been so disappointing. I was all excited to see 8Mb download speeds then it gets... 600Kb? WTF is that?
Heck, in one video the dude tests the G1 and G2 side by side in Speedtest and the G1 won! This is enraging! HSPA+ is T-Mobiles biggest marketing tool right now yet they made no effort to even see if it worked.

Wheres my hspa???

I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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Were you running a custom rom? Stock doesn't/has never shown this for me. I get the slightly higher speeds I believe though.
Bspence415 said:
I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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3g = h.
h = 3g.
Only custom roms show H. But even if it "just" shows 3g, you're still connected to the same network.
It's like the difference between pancakes and flapjacks. Some people call em pancakes. Some people call em flapjacks.
In the end they're the same damn thing.
^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
s15274n said:
^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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The distinction sometimes refers to basic UMTS, but at least in the United States, every UMTS tower has HSPA upgrades. The reason the distinction even started was because in Europe, there were many towers that were UMTS-only without HS[D/U]PA upgrades. That's not the case here.
On the other hand, now ROMS sometimes show H for HSPA+ areas. That is all fine and dandy, except that your Vibrant doesn't go faster than 7.2mbps HSDPA, or 5.6mbps HSUPA. It's not like when your phone is showing "H", that you're magically going to get faster speeds than your phone was designed to achieve.
So when it comes back to the OPs question, of "connecting" to a faster network, it's irrelevant. Once you're on 3g, it's all the same network. HSPA+ and HSDPA and UMTS are all the same network - just different data upgrades. And your phone will ALWAYS try to access the fastest data upgrade that it can.
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I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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it's depend on the phone i think. Before i switch to the vibrant (3G display), I used HD2.
On the HD2, i got H notification all the time. And speedtests on both phones yielded same results.
^^ great read, and I understood all of it... I just never understood why sometimes I got 3G and sometimes I got H in the notification bar, makes sense I suppose. I realize the same speeds were usually achieved.

switching between 3g and hspa?

I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
IshTheG said:
I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
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Mines doing the same, I called yesterday the rep had me download speed test. I'm getting 16mbs down so I'm definitely getting the right speed in the Chicago area,weird
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Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
android88 said:
Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
kelmar13 said:
Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Gotcha! Coming from VZW and my last GSM phone was before LTE/HSPA.
Thx for the info!
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android88 said:
Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
blendobass said:
Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
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No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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This. If you look at a One S it will only ever show "4G" or "2G".
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joshnichols189 said:
This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
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Where I live there is a pretty crappy signal, on my blackberry, i have it on "3g only" now i get a steady internet but at like 2 bars. I wish I could do this on my nexus so i can tell the phone HSPA+ only, that way it will stay connected to that only, when it lost the signal it does switch over to GSM/EDGE
In other words, at home I have a strong GSM signal and weak HSPA+, it wants to drop to 2 g all the time, that sucks. My blackberry just struggles and keeps reconnecting to the 3 g, this is much better for me.
I just wonder isn't there a way to have all the available radios listed, a app better than "phone info" as it doesn't do this so it is like
GSM/EDGE
3G
HSPA+
UMA
LTE
and you can check a box and you phone stay on that network ?
I notice in a network monitor app that my phone says it uses
WHSPA
UMA
GSM
and
UNKNOWN
so it is flipping threw radios because of the weak signals, maybe the phone is faulty i don't know
When my nexus is on HSPA+, even with no bars it is crazy fast compared to waht i am used to, even if the signal comes and goes it take to long between
changing radios or whatever to get back on the 4g
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kelmar13 said:
Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
Lamar720 said:
Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
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Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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El Daddy said:
Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
Lamar720 said:
Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
Lamar720 said:
Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
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Alternatively you can change the 3g icon to an H or 4g as well. Just extract the systemui.apk. copy the H icon and rename it to whatever the 3g icon is called. Wrap the apk back up and push it back.
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This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
thanks
bluedot33 said:
This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
thanks
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I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
My phone never shows 3G.. only H or E.. goes straight to E from H. Weird.
aka_Telo said:
I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
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OMG I'm so glad I found your posts. I'm on Fido (Montreal) and I'm having the same issues. It takes a while to switch from 3G to H sometimes, and sometimes it just seems to not switch at all! For example, if I'm in WhatsApp and I send a message, sometimes it'll just stay there waiting for a good long time before it's actually sent. It's like the phone doesn't "realize" that there's an app requesting to send/receive data! Super annoying, and definitely an issue that can be reproduced. It happens to me in WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook and even the Gmail app.
same issue here... it takes almost a min to transition from 3g to H and visversa
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[Q] New to me 3G status of data?

Google store Nexus 4 on T-Mobile pre-pay plan. Stock Android 4.4.4.
My statuses for mobile data were either 'H', or nothing at all (just bars). For the first time ever I am seeing a '3G' mobile data icon in the bar but I don't think the phone has been updated or changed in any other way - I'm not really concerned as much as puzzled as to what is different now.
FightingChance said:
Google store Nexus 4 on T-Mobile pre-pay plan. Stock Android 4.4.4.
My statuses for mobile data were either 'H', or nothing at all (just bars). For the first time ever I am seeing a '3G' mobile data icon in the bar but I don't think the phone has been updated or changed in any other way - I'm not really concerned as much as puzzled as to what is different now.
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H is hspa(or HSPA+), i dont remember if the n4 has an H+ for hspa+. anyways, that is 3G, but a faster version, like 3.5G. H+ is faster than H, and consists of data download speeds near LTE speeds, but slower upload than LTE. so if you are seeing a 3G now, then youre on a slower network.
simms22 said:
H is hspa(or HSPA+), i dont remember if the n4 has an H+ for hspa+. anyways, that is 3G, but a faster version, like 3.5G. H+ is faster than H, and consists of data download speeds near LTE speeds, but slower upload than LTE. so if you are seeing a 3G now, then youre on a slower network.
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I know what the speeds/radios are and what they mean; I wasn't clear enough in my question then.
For the life of this phone on T-Mobile, they've elected to show either 'H' or nothing at all to denote the lower tier GSM connectivity; I'm wondering why, now, they (or some firmware update to the towers, or ?) have elected to start putting '3G' on the status. I've just never had it before. Can others on T-Mo speak to this?
FightingChance said:
I know what the speeds/radios are and what they mean; I wasn't clear enough in my question then.
For the life of this phone on T-Mobile, they've elected to show either 'H' or nothing at all to denote the lower tier GSM connectivity; I'm wondering why, now, they (or some firmware update to the towers, or ?) have elected to start putting '3G' on the status. I've just never had it before. Can others on T-Mo speak to this?
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because ot wasnt in your area befote, but it is now? no one can really answer the question, as each of us have unique situations. maybe a neighbor or someone that lives nearby can answer.

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