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[App idea] Bar Code Scanner

I have an app idea that I would like to develop... except that I don't have the slightest clue on how to program in ANY language, but I AM willing to learn.
My idea is to have a barcode scanner that takes the scan from the camera, and then cross references it with online sites. This can either tell you what the prices are online, so you can compare the prices to whatever store you're in, or it can be used to make a massive catalog of your belongings, like your DVD's, CD's, books, etc.
I've got Visual C++ 9.0 Express installed so I figured that'd be the best place to start. The question is... Where do I start? I don't think I could even make a Hello World on this thing...

You won't get far with an Express Edition. These Editions can't handle Windows Mobile applications.
You must buy (or install a trial) VS Professional and the Windows Mobile 6 SDK.

this is "kinda" related http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Bar Code

oldsap said:
this is "kinda" related http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Bar Code
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Thanks! I see that he's thinking of making exactly what I'm asking for!
maxstegi said:
You won't get far with an Express Edition. These Editions can't handle Windows Mobile applications.
You must buy (or install a trial) VS Professional and the Windows Mobile 6 SDK.
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I was afraid of that.
I do know that I have an old copy of VC++ 6.0 SOMEWHERE from many years ago with my original major, but I never really learned how to use it, even if I did find it. I'll search tomorrow. I'm tired and I'm heading to bed now.

Barcorama might be another good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368798 .

the idea reminded me of the cuecat, which I got for free maybe 8 years ago at a radioshack. i think that project ultimately failed - since i havent heard about it since. this really has nothing to do with windows mobile, but it does have to do with your idea...

Try iNigma, it's very fast and work 'live' http://www.i-nigma.com/personal/Default.asp

korro said:
Try iNigma, it's very fast and work 'live' http://www.i-nigma.com/personal/Default.asp
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iNigma only does 2d barcodes and therefore it doesn't work with UPC's.
ricethief said:
Barcorama might be another good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368798 .
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This sounds like a step in the right direction.

maxstegi said:
You won't get far with an Express Edition. These Editions can't handle Windows Mobile applications.
You must buy (or install a trial) VS Professional and the Windows Mobile 6 SDK.
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C# Express is actually the version I use to develop Barcorama. The only major problem with the Express edition (my opinion) is the lack of remote (on-device) debugging...

"I do know that I have an old copy of VC++ 6.0 SOMEWHERE from many years ago with my original major"
only at version visual studio 2002 if I recall correct did it support windows mobile
"iNigma only does 2d barcodes and therefore it doesn't work with UPC's."
a camera can work with 2d barcodes as easy as with 1d ones
recall a project with them using 2d barcodes to transfer data between 2 pda's
there are commercial apps out there which already reads both 1d and 2d barcodes
found many code tutorials which worked and were free tough dident work very well as the lighting have to be ok good
and the camera have to better then VGA like older devices have
not sure how you will get around the fact that barcodes are not really unique numbers
they are just numbers and 2 products can have the same number
in which case the store or storage or whatever
place their own barcodes over to tell them apart
but 2 diff stores could use 2 diff replament barcodes

any news on that one?
seems to be working for android:
http://compare-everywhere.com/
http://www.biggu.com/
is there any (commercial) app for winmo which can du this?
thanks

Couple of points:
1) You do not need Visual Studio to develop for Windows Mobile devices if you program in C/C++.
Just download Embedded Visual C++ 4 from Microsoft (its free!) and off you go.
2) Writing a bar-code recognition software is a bit too much for someone who claims to have no knowledge in development.
You need to learn the programming language first, then the specifics of programming under win32 and its WM version and then you have to dig around for various camera APIs since there is no real standard for accessing the camera on different devices.
All that provided you find an available image recognition algorithm you can use 'as is'.
3) Microsoft use to let people download a prototype app (no code just exe) that did exactly what you are planning, but I can't remember its name.
4) Redugar, product barcodes have a worldwide standard pattern: they consist of a country code, then manufecturers code and finally a product code (and posible a product category, I can't remember for sure).
I do know that a company can't just slap a code on their product (unless its for internal use). They need to register, and then they get a range of numbers assigned to them.
So while the product number part may be random and everlapping, I beleve in combination with country an manufecturer code the numbers are uniqu enogh for the perpose od such an app.

So does anyone have anything that works as a barcode scanner for products? I just saw the G1's barcode scanner and its accuracy on the product is simply amazing..take for instance, I scanned a bottle of gatorade and it even told me what flavor it was haha
Anyone know if there's something like this for us PPC users?

I want it!!!

yea this already exists on android. once we have a camera driver working (which is currently being developed) then the barcode scanner will work.
this is all on my htc vogue, btw. android runs almost flawlessly now thanks to dzo's hard work.
android is the future.

http://www.i-nigma.com/personal/register.asp
i-nigma is freeware AFAIK and appears to do exactly what the op is looking for
Best regards,
-boggsie

boggsie said:
http://www.i-nigma.com/personal/register.asp
i-nigma is freeware AFAIK and appears to do exactly what the op is looking for
Best regards,
-boggsie
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Its my understanding that Inigma is a 2D scanner and what we really need is a 1D scanner...

Why do you need a scanner? Isn't a bar code just a pictorial representation of ~ 10 to 15 digits... How hard would it be to just type the numbers in and then send them off to the site to provide the necessary cross referencing? It seems like the scanner is just a cool addition but not really necessary.

JokeZony0u said:
So does anyone have anything that works as a barcode scanner for products? I just saw the G1's barcode scanner and its accuracy on the product is simply amazing..take for instance, I scanned a bottle of gatorade and it even told me what flavor it was haha
Anyone know if there's something like this for us PPC users?
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Barcorama is pretty good, here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368798

cseserv said:
use this for 1d
http://www.quickmark.com.tw/En/basic/hotnews.asp?#200903021
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Wow, I didn't know they had expanded it. I found another one called barcorama but the camera on my phone isn't good enough to use it. Off I go to download quickmark!

Has Anyone thought about Face Detection software

Has anyone ever thought about developing a face detection software program for Diamond/Pro which could act as another security feature to protect our phones? Maybe a good idea. Opinions about this as well.

The idea is good. But just thinking it may require a lot of resources to run this application and drain out battery easily. It is good for TP, but not TD

johnp68 said:
Has anyone ever thought about developing a face detection software program for Diamond/Pro which could act as another security feature to protect our phones? Maybe a good idea. Opinions about this as well.
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Very good idea！But I thought it's hard to realize~

omegasc said:
Very good idea！But I thought it's hard to realize~
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I have been doing some searches and software is there for Mobile Phones but as yet not for pocket PC's that I can see. I notice the Nokia N96 on sale through 3 mobile Australia has it in its specs. Not sure how much space it would take up but I am sure that a phone with expandable memory (Unfortunately the Diamond doesn't have it) would definately be able to use it and personally I could not see the software taking up over 1gb of memory so the Diamond should be ok. Facial recognition is now available on Laptops running Vista so I am hoping that Windows Mobile 7 has it as part of the update when it comes out although I would like it prior to 2010 when WM7 gets released.

not really diamond specific. youd be better off suggesting in general software creation forum

Brendo said:
not really diamond specific. youd be better off suggesting in general software creation forum
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Maybe it could have but as the Diamond and Pro appear to be more technologically advanced compared to previous HTC Phones (obviously due to being newer) I would expect this latest technology would be more compatible to these phones.

They'd not only steal your phone but cut off your head as well in order to use the phone.

sjaak21 said:
They'd not only steal your phone but cut off your head as well in order to use the phone.
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I suppose its the same worldwide, but I know in Australia Mobile Phones are one of the main items of theft from a person and yes unfortunately violence accompanies many of them. Haven't come accross any heads been cut off yet here as yet but knowing society it wouldn't unfortunately surprise me if it did happen one day. I do believe though that we need to make it less enticing to steal our expensive phones. I know here the HTC PRO cost around $1300 outright or $32 a month if on a phone plan over 24 months equaling $768 which is a bit cheaper but then you are stuck with the one phone company regardless. Even if your phone got stolen you lose the dead money regardless so why not make it as least enticing as possible.

I think it is very good idea, there need not to be battery drain, you can activate recognition for example on access to Contacts or message store

Possibility to install 1GB apps on Low-End Windows Phones with 512MB RAM

Hi guys,
Is it somehow possible to install an app that is exclusively available for 1GB devices on a Low-End Windows Phone with 512MB?
I really want to know why many apps are not available for Low-End devices and fear that this is just a strategy of Microsoft for selling more High-End Windows Phones. So I thought about buying a Huawei Ascend W1 to test this, but I'm not sure how and if it is possible.
First there is the easiest possibility with downloading the XAP from the store and installing it manually from the SD card. Does this work? This would be way to easy so I think it doesn't.
Lately I heard something about "cracking" Windows Phone 8 apps? Is this possible and does someone know how? There are many sites providing these XAPs on the internet. Would it work then? Is there any certificate that Microsoft provides with every downloaded app?
Second possibility would be using the Developer Tools from the SDK. This is the way how I used to install Skype on the Lumia 610. (and it worked perfectly!)
Is this still possible with a normale or "cracked" XAP-file?
Third idea: a Chinese hacker called reker recently accomplished to jailbreak a Huawei Ascend W1. Do you know if this allows us to install 1GB apps on it?
This is really not for piracy and I will/have bought/buy every app that I am going to test. According to the law in the country I live in, I am allowed to use applications on any other device as long as I legally bought any kind of license for it.
So basically I would be allowed play Halo Spartan Assault on the Xbox if I found a possibility to run it.
I just don't trust Microsoft anymore after I have seen that only apps by famous developer-studios publish apps exclusively for 1GB devices.
Thank's in advance.

papalakaka said:
Hi guys,
Is it somehow possible to install an app that is exclusively available for 1GB devices on a Low-End Windows Phone with 512MB?
I really want to know why many apps are not available for Low-End devices and fear that this is just a strategy of Microsoft for selling more High-End Windows Phones. So I thought about buying a Huawei Ascend W1 to test this, but I'm not sure how and if it is possible.
First there is the easiest possibility with downloading the XAP from the store and installing it manually from the SD card. Does this work? This would be way to easy so I think it doesn't.
Lately I heard something about "cracking" Windows Phone 8 apps? Is this possible and does someone know how? There are many sites providing these XAPs on the internet. Would it work then? Is there any certificate that Microsoft provides with every downloaded app?
Second possibility would be using the Developer Tools from the SDK. This is the way how I used to install Skype on the Lumia 610. (and it worked perfectly!)
Is this still possible with a normale or "cracked" XAP-file?
Third idea: a Chinese hacker called reker recently accomplished to jailbreak a Huawei Ascend W1. Do you know if this allows us to install 1GB apps on it?
This is really not for piracy and I will/have bought/buy every app that I am going to test. According to the law in the country I live in, I am allowed to use applications on any other device as long as I legally bought any kind of license for it.
So basically I would be allowed play Halo Spartan Assault on the Xbox if I found a possibility to run it.
I just don't trust Microsoft anymore after I have seen that only apps by famous developer-studios publish apps exclusively for 1GB devices.
Thank's in advance.
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These apps that come for 1 GB memory devices only are typically apps that are ported from other platforms and are improperly optimized for the current system.
Most apps, if coded correctly, shouldn't use more than 180 MB, which is what 512 MB devices allow for app consumption.
Theoretically, the limitation is put in place by some property in the WMAappManifest file for the application. If removed, the app should work properly on 512 MB devices, but you risk getting memory related crashes.
Most of the time, apps come in 1GB-only version and then are "ported" to support 512 MB as well, since the large majority of WP8 are 512 MB.
Then there's also the problem of screen resolution: high res devices will use more RAM to render stuff, which is why they all have 1 GB, or in the case of lumia 1020, 2GB.

thank's for your reply.
I have already talked to a developer who told me nearly the exact thing. He explained that these developers who are working for studios are under pressure, because these apps have to be published at time. also they want to keep the code as near to the source as possible. Therefore they don't optimize the apps properly. Still these apps should be able to run, because the RAM is mostly used for the cache of levels before starting. This means when less objects are cached, the processor has to work more, which leads to a higher power combustion.
Do you know if this WMAppManifest is saved in the XAP-file? Can I manipulate it somehow?
I have read something about it on MSDN, but I don't know where it is saved.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windowsphone/develop/jj681682(v=vs.105).aspx
I plan to buy a Low-End device and if it is bricked or somehow destroyed by overheating while trying this, I know, that Microsoft said the truth. The W1 isn't expensive and this is really worth testing.

papalakaka said:
thank's for your reply.
I have already talked to a developer who told me nearly the exact thing. He explained that these developers who are working for studios are under pressure, because these apps have to be published at time. also they want to keep the code as near to the source as possible. Therefore they don't optimize the apps properly. Still these apps should be able to run, because the RAM is mostly used for the cache of levels before starting. This means when less objects are cached, the processor has to work more, which leads to a higher power combustion.
Do you know if this WMAppManifest is saved in the XAP-file? Can I manipulate it somehow?
I have read something about it on MSDN, but I don't know where it is saved.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windowsphone/develop/jj681682(v=vs.105).aspx
I plan to buy a Low-End device and if it is bricked or somehow destroyed by overheating while trying this, I know, that Microsoft said the truth. The W1 isn't expensive and this is really worth testing.
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the WMAappManifest is indeed located in the XAP, but you can not edit the XAP because they are encrypted by the marketplace.
If you wanna be safe and still get a high-endish phone, I suggest the lumia 820: has 1 GB of RAM and priced quite well.
The problem i see with 512 MB devices is that at some point microsoft will be forced to abandon them. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Phone 9 will be unavailable for WP8 512 MB devices.

actually I have the Lumia 920 and I just want to test this if it works. I think it is worth trying, but I need to know how it is possible.
Maybe by jailbreaking the Huawei? There was a thread here on XDA.
So this means, manipulating isn't the way to do it. Any other ideas? What happens if I try to install it via SD card?
Is it somehow possible to "crack" the app without affecting this encryption?

papalakaka said:
actually I have the Lumia 920 and I just want to test this if it works. I think it is worth trying, but I need to know how it is possible.
Maybe by jailbreaking the Huawei? There was a thread here on XDA.
So this means, manipulating isn't the way to do it. Any other ideas? What happens if I try to install it via SD card?
Is it somehow possible to "crack" the app without affecting this encryption?
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As far as we know, the XAP is uncrackable at the moment, because it is compiled to native binaries. You will need decompile the thing back to MSIL, which isn't trivial. In the case of directx games (which represent the majority of 1GB-only apps) this gets even harder, even if you try installing via SD. But we have very skilled hackers working on it.
For a long time we thought WP8 was uncrackable, until the W1 jailbreak. The jailbreak will happen, sooner or latter, remember, WP8 doesn't even have one year in the wild.
I am not 100% sure how that guy who jailbroke the W1 manage to fool the XAP and marketplace checking.

You can try this: http://www.windowsmania.pl/poradnik...1gb-na-telefonach-z-512mb-nowy-poradnik-4504/
This is Polish site, but you can use google translator

mcosmin222 said:
As far as we know, the XAP is uncrackable at the moment, because it is compiled to native binaries. You will need decompile the thing back to MSIL, which isn't trivial. In the case of directx games (which represent the majority of 1GB-only apps) this gets even harder, even if you try installing via SD. But we have very skilled hackers working on it.
For a long time we thought WP8 was uncrackable, until the W1 jailbreak. The jailbreak will happen, sooner or latter, remember, WP8 doesn't even have one year in the wild.
I am not 100% sure how that guy who jailbroke the W1 manage to fool the XAP and marketplace checking.
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Thank you for your explanation.
That is why I consider buying the W1, but I haven't understood yet how the jailbreak works at all. But I must say that I haven't had much time to read the thread completely.
I will try what I can and I really believe in the hackers at XDA. They are really talented and making impossible things easy for every user.
Maybe he sideloaded the app somehow?

Budniu said:
You can try this: http://www.windowsmania.pl/poradnik...1gb-na-telefonach-z-512mb-nowy-poradnik-4504/
This is Polish site, but you can use google translator
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Thank you, I will try this as soon as I have the device. Does this really work for sure?

I don't know because I don't need that, but people wrote that is working good.

Chinese Lumia "Jailbreak"

Hey,
I'm sure you've heard about the rumored chinese "jailbreak" for the 920, and that it most likely was a scam. However, someone on WPCentral posted that it now is a reality (source: http://forums.wpcentral.com/softwar...0-jailbreak-lumia-finally-here-21-1-14-a.html), with these two links: http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/jailbreak920/ and http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/highxap/
is there anyone capable of chinese who could explain what they are saying there? I still have some hope left the only thing I found was the WPHTweaks xap that still needs interop services specified in the WMAppManifest, so it can't be deployed (obviously) and can't be the "jailbreak". So if anyone could tell me what they're basically saying there that would be great

Would love to see one of our local experts here on XDA to take a look over this to know if it is any good AND is it only for the 920, will it work on the 928 (claimed same phone with some upgrades to hardware)....

Yes, we know, it has already been discussed in this thread but it's locked down, because it were mere rumors as it is now. The Xap is a renamed version of WPH Tweaks by jessenic, which needs interop-unlock to be able to deployed in the first place. As the great GoodDaytoDie once said :
That's because it is simply the official WPH Tweaks app, just with the XAP file renamed. There's nothing special about it at all, and the poster who talked about installing it on a Lumia was probably just being an idiot (again, unless the Chinese have some jailbreak that the rest of us don't know about).
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And ultrashot pointed out that the device in the video is probably an Lumia engineering phone without the blown J-TAG fuses (on retail phones they are blown) so a RIFFBox hack could be applied to engineering phone (not applicable to retail phones) and interop-unlock could be achieved this way.

I see that now after getting a translator. It was posted around like it was a new link....Sigh....got my hopes up a little, I got a Nokia phone but, it stinks there is not at least a Interop unlock for it...
Maybe Samsung will release a better phone for Verizon that can be unlocked...

Yeah, no its probably not going to happen anytime soon. CDMA requires extra care and OEMs won't go out of their way to make it happen along with Verizon doing who knows with the 929/Icon to be released. Just look how long it took to release the 928.

i 'am from China,maybe i can give you some informations.
As I know. The team called poansoul,announced that they can jailbreak for Lumia 920,on a forum,only a forum,I can't find any other information about their jailbreak on other forums.i doubt that whether they could succeed. But , according to this team,they said,they had jailbreaked ,but isn't perfect,because,the jailbreak process is similar to imperfect jailbreak on Lumia 800,they'll not release the jailbreak until the jailbreak is perfect. &,people focus on wp8.1 more ,rather than jailbreak. Sorry for my poor English.

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As I know. The team called poansoul,announced that they can jailbreak for Lumia 920,on a forum,only a forum,I can't find any other information about their jailbreak on other forums.i doubt that whether they could succeed. But , according to this team,they said,they had jailbreaked ,but isn't perfect,because,the jailbreak process is similar to imperfect jailbreak on Lumia 800,they'll not release the jailbreak until the jailbreak is perfect. &,people focus on wp8.1 more ,rather than jailbreak. Sorry for my poor English.
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I talked with Some body on this group .
He tell me that he used a Hardware way to Jailbreak and they are working on a software way .

I also heard this news.But,,,
ngame said:
I talked with Some body on this group .
He tell me that he used a Hardware way to Jailbreak and they are working on a software way .
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But,at least,I think they can release some details about the Hardware way to jailbreak,but we can't.And ,they also announced one day the'll release it before,but they break their words,at least,they did not release it ,let us down over and over.so,may people don't believe it,they would like to looking forward to wp8.1 rather than jailbreak.

ngame said:
I talked with Some body on this group .
He tell me that he used a Hardware way to Jailbreak and they are working on a software way .
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Yes, that sounds realistic. I guess they used JTAG Method.
I opened up a thread in ATF support forum here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f609/qualcomm-bootloader-wp8-lumias-1765873/
and if i may quote product-supporter X-Shadow:
@lordmaxey
Most retail phones including Nokia have m_debug_all blown... But with some
simple well known technique, you can bypass this as to enable JTAG debug and
memory access.
There are no "modified boots" because WP8 Lumias all use SECURE BOOT 3.0.
Well as Lumia 800, 900 and 710 did not implement secure boot at all (fuse not bl0wn).
So in reality, you can put android in 800, 900 and 710 if you really wanted to.... but the
same cannot be said when it comes to WP8.
I am working on a QFUSE hack as of this moment. But still too early to say what can be
achieved.
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So, i don't think the "JTAG-hack" can only be applied to engineering phones without that blown fuse...
There's still hope.
If they only would release their stuff, i could try the jtag hack with my lumia 920 and my atf box.
Would be fun

I think they use Riff

ngame said:
I think they use Riff
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i guess this shouldn't matter.
jtag is jtag

DavidinCT said:
Would love to see one of our local experts here on XDA to take a look over this to know if it is any good AND is it only for the 920, will it work on the 928 (claimed same phone with some upgrades to hardware)....
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I was able to deploy it, but it asked for wp7 tools??
---------- Post added at 04:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------
Statement: Informations relating jailbreak is now not ready to be released. According to the POANDSOUL team, the jailbreak is still in progress now, while there are a lot of work not done yet. They have invited a small number of users and developers to their close test. And we are sorry that this stage is still not suitable for the public beta. As a news media, Silen Tech has already tried everything we can to report, but the release of a tutorial without proper jailbreak tools is surely out of the question. Therefore, please be patient until the release of jailbreak by the POANDSOUL team.

I don't think there will ever be a software "jailbreak" for Lumias.
There might be a hardware-solution, but just unlocking with usb is way more difficult.
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I wonder if it would be possible to replace the SoC and get unblown fuses. Apparently they can be ordered pretty cheap from china.

lordmaxey said:
Yes, that sounds realistic. I guess they used JTAG Method.
I opened up a thread in ATF support forum here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f609/qualcomm-bootloader-wp8-lumias-1765873/
and if i may quote product-supporter X-Shadow:
So, i don't think the "JTAG-hack" can only be applied to engineering phones without that blown fuse...
There's still hope.
If they only would release their stuff, i could try the jtag hack with my lumia 920 and my atf box.
Would be fun
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I believe there's a pad of a resistor near the chip that needs to either be pulled to ground during reset, or pulled high after reset.

Coming from Android (possibly)

I'm looking at the 950XL as it seems to have all the specs of the Nexus 6P but also includes USB 3.1, which is very important to me (I currently have a Note 3 which needs upgrading).
Project Astoria quite interests me; can you use any Android App with this, or just certain ones?
One thing I like about Android is the ability to flash ROMs; I don't think there's anything like this with Windows is there?
(Slightly dodgy topic to talk about) On Android I can just search for an app adding the word 'apk' on Google and download it for free. Is there anyway to do this on Windows?
I used to run Windows Mobile and before that Windows CE, before switching to Android

I just saw your question. Here is some of what I know. As of right now there is an app called 'bluestack' that allows you to run apks as if on android with google services this is a win 8 app though.
There are plus' and minus' here.
1. The feature that makes what you that interested in are win universal apps. That announced by MS is supposed to be repackaged Android apks and converted to universal apps. They then would use Windows services. (a minus or a plus depending on preferences)
2. Blue stack (and its alternatives)may need to be updated to a win 10 universal app. The biggest upside to the 950/xl are that dual booting maybe possible. And a full emulation is possible almost like having 2 phones in one. I say that because of how windows runs or promises to run. With win10 it should be a hackers/tinkerers/dev dream. Leading to more of the apps you may want to port over.
3. Porting maybe possible with the tools MS provide. You maybe able to repackage apks on your own into win10 universal apps.
4.this is the last thing. You maybe able to enjoy 3rd party win10 apps. There are alternatives to twitter for example on windows but no actual Twitter app which some say are better than Twitter's actual app. Also some reporters have said that microsoft are offer to build apps(official) for companies like Twitter and then hand it over to them and they then take over maintenance. But that hasn't worked so far.
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Many thanks for your reply. I've been reading a lot, trying to get my head around the new Windows Phone experience. It seems vastly different from what I used to have on my HTC HD2, which was my last Windows Phone.
One app I use a lot and I find useful is Truecaller, it tells you who's calling, even if you don't have their number in your phone. I presume this needs some sort of integration with the OS. I wonder if Project Astoria offers this level of integration.

My last windows phone was also the HD2 and I've used android ever since. I recently bought a lumia so I could try windows 10 preview. There are a couple of things I miss:
- the ability to transfer files to/from my NAS through WiFi without having to go through a pc
- swipe keyboard doesn't work in some places, eg works in messaging but not in browser
- android .nomedia facility
- banking - my bank is HSBC and they don't have a windows app
If the 950x windows 10 version fixes the first two of these then that will be my next phone.

My banking app also isnt on WP10.
I also like to use DOSbox to play old games on my phone.
Also Torque for hooking up to cars ECU via a bluetooth OBD2 reader.
No Starbucks app
I also use my LG Gwatch to receive notification on my wrist at work. As Im not allowed to get my phone, this is a very very handy feature for me.
I think I'm too invested in Android right now. I am a real Windows 10 Phone wannabe though. I wish I could afford both the Nexus 6P and Lumia 950XL.

Windows Lumia 950xl check every check in the box for what i want in a smartphone on the hardware side... But my issues is that i know that you can port apps over but how many official apps from ios and android made it to the windows store. Once they have app they will have me as a new consumer

https://youtu.be/P2wKJK5cr3M
https://youtu.be/Eu3EMS4dvv8
Look at these vids, they can give you an idea of what to expect with w10 mobile
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Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/18/elephone-vowney-dual-boots-android-and-windows-10-for-299/
Guys i thought this may also be useful to keep in mind. There maybe a US compatible version at some point.
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UserDemos said:
Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.
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So in theory you can do this with windows phone right now. remember one windows isn't anything new. windows 8.1 is on the xbox one. And you can use the pass through feature on any windows device. On windows 10, its all the same, even on mobile because on phone it is full windows running (just slightly different ui, right now if windows 10 on desktop is told its on an under 6inch screen it locks into mobile or atleast the apps do, per windows weekly). Even though it is mobile you could run full photo shop on the phone with a couple of hacks. The one issue is Windows doesn't run well on Arm processors snapdragon 810 and 808... Look out also for a zenfone 2 running Windows 10 mobile. Also the is some one hacking the zenfone to port windows 10.
My dream is for the test windows 10 mobile rom that was being tested on xiaomi mi4 could get ported.
Also microsoft has debated on creating a rom that's flashable to android devices. That helps them get the 1billion user goal. And also attract devs and hacking enthusiasts.
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So this is full Windows 10? But on ARM?
Could I install and run any programs that I can install on my laptop then?
Does the phone have some kind of x86 to ARM translator?

No, it is not full Win10.
It only runs "universal" apps (the successor of the "metro" apps of windows 8/8.1/10)...

Truecaller is already available on win10 mobile. It shows info about who is calling but also can act as your call and text message spam filter, a feature I don't think they have on Android.
I broke my Icon unfortunately so can't post screenshots.
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I'm in the same boat. The 950 checks all my boxes hardware wise, but I do think it'll be hard to switch.
What I am doing is getting a Lumia 640, pretty cheap from BB: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-go...lack/9231014.p?id=1219701750248&skuId=9231014
Figure that would be a good device to test everything out on and see if I can make the switch. And I could probably sell it in a few months to close to what I paid for it.

Indeed fantastic price.
If my 950 XL proves (too) good, I might get a cheapo previous model so that my wife also switches.
(and only keep my Z4 Tablet LTE - that is getting Marshmallow soon - to keep contact with Android)
I actually waited to the last minute if a really serious device comes out this year from Android and only three came "close but no cigar" (the others far behind including the Note5, a series I used to be a fan and they stupidly killed by turning to a fashion series like S series):
- LG V10. I don't like the little screen (mostly the awkward positioning and that is not AMOLED but is always on - which kind of defeats the concept) and I don't care about the two selfie cams. Also you make it tough. Why not water resistant (at least) also?
- Z5 Premium. I always liked the Z series, but they failed to really advance it and now you can even call it ugly. 4K for a non-4K ready world is just a nice selling bullet. You put a super-MP camers, with no OIS and a simple single LED flash. Goofy.
- Moto X Force. No biometrics at all? In 2015? (also I kind of fear Moto as a brand for years now)
Anyway... few more days to a month to see if we made the right choice.
Love my Windows 10 1511 update that has extras to support coexistense with Win 10 phone...
MSFT don't screw this.

I started with windows hacking until I bought a HTC evo 4g. I have had 4 nexus devices and currently on the nexus 6. When the 950xl becomes available i am ditching the 6 for windows again after several years of android. Just out grew android. It was fun buy going back to where it all started.

No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.

olarf said:
No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.
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I feel windows mobile will make a come back.

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I feel windows mobile will make a come back.
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Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?

KeesStolk said:
Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Yes, apps, always been lacking there. I have a feeling that's gonna change. Windows phone hacking & development is coming back. I will hold on to my nexus and gonna get the 950xl

KeesStolk said:
Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Same for me, I used Sammy phones for some years now and it seems they lost the track more and more. For sure there is a need for more apps but its a bit a Chicken and Egg thing. If you ask Software companies they tell you that there are not enough Windows phones to make it worth to develop a APP and if you ask customers they tell you that there are not enough apps to make it worth buying a Windows Phone... Actually I see Windows Phones appear in more and more companies where they replace IPhones. ALso the Bridge Projects seems to be more promissing then the Astoria one. For us as WP users we must not care about as most good apps exist for IOS and ANdroid at the same time. If the porting from IOS work good, we will get a lot of apps soon. The rest is on Microsoft then, they have to motivate companies to create a lot of universal apps. Actually the 950/950XL seems to be the only phones with some inovation right now. Lets see end of 2016 where we are.
I forget to mention that there exist a Tapatalk app and it works. Not that good but it works and do the job.