Whenever I place my phone on my passenger seat in the car face up my Laser/Radar detector starts giving me Laser alerts.
Flip the phone over and the alerts stop.
Put the phone in a car mount so the face is directed towards me and no alerts
Obviously the phone is setting of the alerts - don't really care - but anyone have a theory as to why? Proximity sensors? Anyone else experience this?
Most likely the IR sensors on the front of the device.
Me too, but I never linked it to the phone. Now that I think back, it happens when my phone is on the front seat. If I put it in a cubby hole it doesn't happen. Do you have a Valentine 1?
quakeaz said:
Most likely the IR sensors on the front of the device.
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This is definitely the reason.
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My Valentine One radar detector will give me a laser alert from bright reflections off glass and chrome. Could be a possibility for you, as well.
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Hey, so I'm not really sure where to post this, but here goes nothing.
To my knowledge, the incredible is not marketed as having a magnetic trigger (a la the Droid), but I have noticed interesting behavior when in close proximity to magnets.
The backstory- I am working on a stealth (looks stock) magnetic mount for my Inc. to connect to my car. (Actually just finished installation and testing... will post more on that later). Anyhow, when I have magnets in the back cover, it seems to disable the accelerometers, thus keeping the device orientation regardless of movement and positioning.
Not sure if this is a hardware deal wherein the magnets physically impede the accelerometers, but using a logging app, it seems that the sensors are actually disabled.
Anybody want to weigh in if I am missing something?
Thanks!
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Hey, so I'm not really sure where to post this, but here goes nothing.
To my knowledge, the incredible is not marketed as having a magnetic trigger (a la the Droid), but I have noticed interesting behavior when in close proximity to magnets.
The backstory- I am working on a stealth (looks stock) magnetic mount for my Inc. to connect to my car. (Actually just finished installation and testing... will post more on that later). Anyhow, when I have magnets in the back cover, it seems to disable the accelerometers, thus keeping the device orientation regardless of movement and positioning.
Not sure if this is a hardware deal wherein the magnets physically impede the accelerometers, but using a logging app, it seems that the sensors are actually disabled.
Anybody want to weigh in if I am missing something?
Thanks!
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It makes sense that it would at least mess with them if not totally disable it. I'd also wager your compass will be unusable.
What *I* want to know is if there is a way then that the device could determine if it's a magnet. Could use that to trigger a car-dock type of mode?
Well I assumed that it would affect my compass (weighed the consequences, but I hardly ever use it).
The interesting thing to me was that it didn't just throw everything off, it seemed to disable the sensor's output.
You bring up a good idea tho, perhaps turning on a program based on the sensors not returning values (given that my earlier speculation is accurate). My plans thus far was going to have a tasked widget activate my "car mode", but this could be interesting.
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Couple of tests with SensorsTest and GPSStatus apps and yeah.. the magnet does for sure disable the compass (locks it on East). And definitely breaks the orientation sensor. BUT I wonder if GPS nav needs the magnometer reading for heading anyway.
Even a little whiteboard magnet put just below the speaker on the back cranks the magnometer readings to fly up to 1000-2000.
I should get my ass in gear and see if I can't write a "car dock" app like we're describing and have it not break anything.
I should also contact HTC and see if prolonged exposure to a "strong" magnet will break the sensor.
and Knock-On won't work.
Fell from about 4 feet onto a rubbery floor (gym service) while working out. Have an incipio feather light case on it and there now seems to be a small dent above the ear speaker. No idea why knock-on stopped, knock-off is fine everything else seems normal
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and Knock-On won't work.
Fell from about 4 feet onto a rubbery floor (gym service) while working out. Have an incipio feather light case on it and there now seems to be a small dent above the ear speaker. No idea why knock-on stopped, knock-off is fine everything else seems normal
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You probably broke your proximity sensor. If that's covered knock on won't work to avoid starting the phone in your pants.
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You probably broke your proximity sensor. If that's covered knock on won't work to avoid starting the phone in your pants.
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That is what i first thought because initially after the drop the screen would turn off right after being turned on. After a few restarts that seemed to have gone away but still no knock-on. I downloaded an app call "Phone Tester" and the proximity sensor comes up as "near"
Neare means blocked
its possible that your connector is just disconnected. if you can open up the battery cover and the rear cover its quite easy to find the connector just give it a press and see if it works. tip for opening the battery cover - pull the micro usb side!!
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Neare means blocked
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Got it (you'd think they could just say blocked).
So I kind of smacked it around, cleaned it off etc etc and it says "Far" now. Knock-On is sporadically working.
I may try and take apart the back cover and poke around
So i recently upgraded to Lollipop but my proximity sensor is broken. I used an app called Proximity Screen off lite but it is not working on latest android lollipop. So now when i make a call my screen goes dark until the call is disconnected from other party. same is the case with incoming call. Please help
I was in the same situation as you last weekend. Unfortunately, there's no way to get around it in software that I know of. I even went as far as developing an app from scratch to duplicate Proximity Screen Off Lite's functionality, but ended up hitting a road block on the OS level. Another option that would've worked pre-5.0 was to use an xposed mod to disable the proximity sensor, but of course that doesn't work in 5.0 now. Hopefully someone else can chime in with a software solution that I couldn't figure out.
Did you replace your phone's screen by any chance?
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I was in the same situation as you last weekend. Unfortunately, there's no way to get around it in software that I know of. I even went as far as developing an app from scratch to duplicate Proximity Screen Off Lite's functionality, but ended up hitting a road block on the OS level. Another option that would've worked pre-5.0 was to use an xposed mod to disable the proximity sensor, but of course that doesn't work in 5.0 now. Hopefully someone else can chime in with a software solution that I couldn't figure out.
Did you replace your phone's screen by any chance?
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Yes i did :/ nownfed up and hating it. there has to be someway which disable the hardware :/
sink1991 said:
Yes i did :/ nownfed up and hating it. there has to be someway which disable the hardware :/
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I replaced the original screen with an after-market one as well, and that's what caused my proximity sensor issue. There is a good chance your proximity sensor is actually working perfectly, but the after-market screen is blocking it from reading a "far" value. If you're comfortable with taking your phone apart, you could fix it without replacing anything. There were two things that I did to fix mine, but I'm not sure which of the two actually did the trick. 1) I repositioned the sensor so that it sits further away from the glass, and 2) I scratched off the black paint on the back side of the glass around the two clear sensor holes. Obviously you should attempt option 1 first, because the second option is permanent and will damage the aesthetics of your phone. Others have reported success with option 1, by gluing a thin spacer with two holes to the front of the sensor, but I did not have any luck with it when I tried initially. You will find that it helps a lot to do this while the phone is on, and you can see the results of your changes immediately with the Proximity Sensor Finder app.
Edit: Before you attempt any of the fixes, you should verify that your sensor is in fact working by pointing it away from the phone after opening up the back.
I had the same problem, I gave up on a software fix and I ended up taking the phone apart and fixing it outright. It's not too difficult, all you need is a plastic tool to open the case and a T5 and a 00 screwdriver.
There's a good youtube video (I can't link - see /watch?v=AZDAIgwbXk4) showing how to do it. Skip the battery section, you can keep that in place. At 9:00 he indicates where the proximity sensor and light sensor are. Take the small rubber gasket that covers the two sensors, and flip it around so that the larger hole is over the proximity sensor. Put it back together and turn it on, it should work perfectly.
Also, in the interim, you may wish to have your phone end calls with the power button, it can be found under accessibility settings. At least that way you won't be stuck waiting for the other party to pick up or hang up.
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I had the same problem, I gave up on a software fix and I ended up taking the phone apart and fixing it outright. It's not too difficult, all you need is a plastic tool to open the case and a T5 and a 00 screwdriver.
There's a good youtube video (I can't link - see /watch?v=AZDAIgwbXk4) showing how to do it. Skip the battery section, you can keep that in place. At 9:00 he indicates where the proximity sensor and light sensor are. Take the small rubber gasket that covers the two sensors, and flip it around so that the larger hole is over the proximity sensor. Put it back together and turn it on, it should work perfectly.
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I did the same thing. It's a common issue, and that's the typical fix.
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I did the same thing. It's a common issue, and that's the typical fix.
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I had the same problem, solved by a thin plastic sheat that I drilled two holes in and then cut to the right size.
I placed the plastic part in the bottom of the hole, where to fit the sensor. I also shaved of aboute 1 mm on the part that presses the sensor from the back.
( I hade already taken the blackish film away in a own attempt to fix the problem, at least the light sensor seems to meassure more accurat)
Hi all, I've similar problem on my LG G2 D802. I have tempered glass with covered prox. On KK everything was OK, but unfortunately Lollipop has much more intensivity on prox
and I had the same issue as you, I mean - turned screen while I maked call and vice versa. Moreover, I can't get in to the service menu on LP (AOSP 5.1.1).
I bought new tempered glass with uncovered prox but fortunately Xposed has working old module: Disable proximity sensor.
I don't know about what module you guys talked about but this module works very well.
I tried installing the xposed framework but that threw a little notice saying it wasnt going to work. I looked for apps ont he app store but that didnt work as well..
Any ideas on how to disable the proximity sensor so when I turn the screen on it doesnt turn right back off?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
the issue might be your proximity sensor's alignment. it might not have aligned properly. there is a small black rubber holder to hold the proximity sensor. may be you might be missing it or might have loosen it. you can easily fix/align it, if you can open the back cover.
you can install a custom rom to overcome this sudden screen off issue. but when you taking a call your screen will be turning off until other user disconnect the call..
I suggest you fix/align the proximity sensor..
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There is a small troubleshooting step you can do to see whether your proximity sensor has a slight alignment issue. get a torch or good direct light source and point it directly at proximity sensor. if you can turn your screen on while pointing that light towards proximity sensor, you should have a very small alignment issue. there are plenty of proximity sensor test apps on play store too.
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the issue might be your proximity sensor's alignment. it might not have aligned properly. there is a small black rubber holder to hold the proximity sensor. may be you might be missing it or might have loosen it. you can easily fix/align it, if you can open the back cover.
you can install a custom rom to overcome this sudden screen off issue. but when you taking a call your screen will be turning off until other user disconnect the call..
I suggest you fix/align the proximity sensor..
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There is a small troubleshooting step you can do to see whether your proximity sensor has a slight alignment issue. get a torch or good direct light source and point it directly at proximity sensor. if you can turn your screen on while pointing that light towards proximity sensor, you should have a very small alignment issue. there are plenty of proximity sensor test apps on play store too.
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Interseting... My screen broke so I had it replaced and its been having an issue ever since. Also, I don't use it for calls. It is just sitting on a mount in my car most of the day running a few car apps. But it is in airplane mode basically all day lol.
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Interseting... My screen broke so I had it replaced and its been having an issue ever since. Also, I don't use it for calls. It is just sitting on a mount in my car most of the day running a few car apps. But it is in airplane mode basically all day lol.
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that makes sense.. you also replced front housing too right? that's where that rubber proximity sensor holder attached.. if you replace original front housing with aftermarket housing that rubber holder probably won't come with it. most of the repair technicians don't know this.. if you still have the old front housing you should be able to recover it and attach to your new housing..
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or you should be able to buy it.
here it is
http://rounded.com/lg-g2-d802-rubber-proximity-sensor-module-mbl65540401.html#/product/21920 (also try ebay or aliexpress )
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that makes sense.. you also replced front housing too right? that's where that rubber proximity sensor holder attached.. if you replace original front housing with aftermarket housing that rubber holder probably won't come with it. most of the repair technicians don't know this.. if you still have the old front housing you should be able to recover it and attach to your new housing..
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or you should be able to buy it.
here it is (also try ebay or aliexpress )
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Honestly, if its possible I'd rather just disable it completely. I'd rather not open the phone up again if I don't have to and I will never use it for calls anyway.
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Honestly, if its possible I'd rather just disable it completely. I'd rather not open the phone up again if I don't have to and I will never use it for calls anyway.
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if you're not using your g2 for calls, I'd recommend flashing a custom aosp rom. so you wouldn't get in to this sudden screen off issue while unlocking it..
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if you're not using your g2 for calls, I'd recommend flashing a custom aosp rom. so you wouldn't get in to this sudden screen off issue while unlocking it..
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That sounds exciting.. Lets do it!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep disconnecting or putting people on mute whatever with my ear, is there a setting to turn the screen off during calls?
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Is this in the native dialer?
Your phone screen should automatically turn off when you put your phone to your ear.
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Is this in the native dialer?
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Yes, screen doesn't turn off
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Davey Dual Sim said:
Yes, screen doesn't turn off
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That's odd and wrong, the proximity sensor is about 0.5 cm left to the camera cutout, make sure you don't:
Have a dirty display
Use an invasive case
Use a badly applied screen protector, some glass ones can cause problems too
Cover only the left side of the screen with your ear
What software are you on?
S10+ out of the box with the Samsung screen protector , the Spiggen air case, the thinnest one on the market and stock Pie, using Nova
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I've had the same thing happen a couple of times. The prox sensor is too far to the edge of the phone so it doesn't always "see" my face when I hold it up to my ear. I had the same issue with LG G7.
It's happen to me as well but I don't really mind since I text more often than I do calling people ?
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S10+ out of the box with the Samsung screen protector , the Spiggen air case, the thinnest one on the market and stock Pie, using Nova
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Can you replicate the bug by playing a WhatsApp audio file(can be your own) and covering the top of your phone?
It's easy to replicate on a call. Hold the phone up to your left ear and just slightly rotate it away from your head. You'll see the screen come on. It all depends on how you hold phone while you're talking.
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Can you replicate the bug by playing a WhatsApp audio file(can be your own) and covering the top of your phone?
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Yes, I've tested the proximity sensor and it works, so it's more about how I hold the phone it seems. I take a lot of calls whilst on the move and i pace about a lot whilst talking.
It seems the screen is going on and off and my ear is touching the screen before the sensor turns it off again.
For someone who makes 30 or 40 or so calls a day the problem is me and the fact I'm never sitting at a desk when doing so.
I need to work around this with an ear use routine lol
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I keep disconnecting or putting people on mute whatever with my ear, is there a setting to turn the screen off during calls?
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very old thread, but i suffer the same issue, even with all the updates. only when under lineageOS the proximity-sensor works just fine. bur lineage is no solution, unfortunately.
Did you ever manage to really solve this ?
best regards from switzerland
The issue of the Prox sensor is one as old as smartphones. My questions and advice usually go like this,
Do you have long hair that drapes over your ear? Hair that hangs in front of your ear is not always solid enough to be detected. Light can also bleed through and cause false signals allowing the screen to stay on. There are two ways to overcome this, press the phone tightly to your ear. This compacts the hair and blocks the light. Some don't like this because of the pressure. Pull your hair back before placing the phone to your ear.
Are you sure of the device placement? Everyone's ears are different and sometimes the sensor can miss the ear. Slight adjustments forward or back can land the sensor on a solid portion of the ear rather than a recessed area. Also holding the phone too high can be an issue as your ear is actually under the sensor. Figuring out ear placement becomes muscle memory and can change from device to device you just have to find the spot first then make an effort to hit a few times until it's natural.
Is your screen clean? Ironically a dirty screen can cause issues with these sensors as well. If the screen is dirty from makeup or natural oils in the skin the sensor may have a difficult time realizing there's a difference and not react. Just running your palm over the upper portion of the screen right before placing the device to your ear should be enough to clean the sensor and provide a contrast reference.
Most of you have tested your sensor but for those who haven't if you continue to have issues it is always possible that there is a defect in the sensor. If none of the above advice has worked it's a good idea to test both the Prox and light sensor. To test the light sensor, set your device to auto brightness and in a well lit area place your palm over the upper portion of the phone, the screen should dim. To test the prox sensor, place a call or have a friend call you and place your palm over the upper portion of the screen, the screen should go dark with no display.
If all of the advice fails and the phone also fails the sensor tests you may need to take the device in for service.
A temporary solution would also be to not hold the phone flush against your cheek while on calls. There are no controls at the top of the phone and muting or disconnecting comes from cheek contact. The mic on the device is very good. You'd actually find that you could sit the phone on the table and talk to someone in a normal voice and they would hear you just fine. You obviously wouldn't hear them as well if not on speakerphone, because speakerphone both boosts the volume and incorporates the second speaker. So even if you held the device a few inches or CM from your mouth the other person would still hear you just fine. This is another technic that requires a bit of practice but can become second nature with the added benefit of keeping your screen a little more smudge free.