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I have discovered this GPS is a Windows Mobile! It's not a phone, but has beautiful specs, Active Sync inside, you can browse files in the 2GB flash memory, but read only files.
Please hack it!
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProd...ageType=Main&category=ICN+Personal+navigation
Try to imagine what could you do with this features...it's better than a PSP, GPS onboard.
ZorrO! said:
I have discovered this GPS is a Windows Mobile!
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No where does it say that it is Win Mobile !!!
No windows mobile and even if sony wanted to put a OS on it, they would put symbian.
Actually it's a Windows CE 5 Core.
Most sat navs run with this these days.
PsiDOC
I'm assuming the OP found out when he connected it to a PC with ActiveSync installed and it started up the sync process..
As psiDOC says a lot of PND's do run winCE as the base OS.. Mainly 4.x mind but some recent ones have 5, there are some hacks around to change some of them back to a Windows Mobile devices..
Have a look round google or pocketgpsworld forums for information on this.. it will void warranty of course and i havent seen one for any nav-u devices yet
Yes, I understood was a WinCE when I connected to Active Sync. Folders structure is the same as my phone (imate SP5M), so I tought it was possible to do something.
This is a brand new model, so maybe nobody tried the hack yet.
But I'm not so expert about hacking, it would be possible on this nav?
It's not so much about hacking the unit, more like cooking up a rom for the device. I have been playing with GPS roms for a while and made basic hacks using a hex editor and then editing the checksums, but have never found a suitable rom kitchen to help with a complete rom rebuild.
Regards,
Psi
hey everyone...
are there any other alternatives then windows mobile?
like a linux?
and are they better or worse?
and does anyone know when the windows mobile 7 comes out?
thanks...
Linux
Windows Mobile 7
From everything I've read (and everything you could have looked up yourself), nothing works on a Wizard as well as Windows. Many come close to working, but unless you like crippled devices, I'd stick to Windows. There are some really nice cooked Windows Mobile 6.1 based ROMS in the Wizard Mobile 6 thread.
I know you're new to these boards, and I was a noob once, too, but please use the search engines, and do some research on your own. Not everyone will be nice about this.
Why not !
I'm own Win CE 6 SDK and VS 2005. I start developing custom OS builds. It's going fine, I can build custom image, here is example.
It is compiled for ARM so architecture is compatibile with WM Devices. It generate ROM image which can be moded with existing tools. At this stage I want to develop good, stable image, and then start stage 2 - Combining WM drivers from WM device (They are back compatible) with Win CE 6 image.
We will see if this will end it any way, I will informe you about progress...
The first and two last screenshots show IV distribution which is "universal" and total commander runing fine
The second screenshots are from first, profiled version, but they show fine some win ce features...
At this moment I must update distribution to r2
If you saw, or not... Win Ce is runing fine on Nokia N800, the video was also posted here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/27/vmware-mvp-weds-windows-ce-and-android-in-unholy-matrimony-on-du/
Edit: If anyone is interested what components and features can be included in build, I created screenshots which show them:
http://rapidshare.com/files/204557405/features.rar.html
Edit 2: Currently updating to R2 for maximum quality of release.
looks good, i think, whats the implications of this exactly?
wm6/6.5 is built on winCE 5, right?
WM 6, 6.1, 6.5 = CE 5
WM 7 = CE 6
Generaly CE 6 is faster. mor stable than 5, there is also more drivers, I test pocket total commander and it works fine, win ce 6 also use cab installers but they arent the same as for wm, they need litle modyfications to run on ce
sounds good
man, i wish you all the best.
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looking forward to this!
Good Luck!!! will keep an eye on this thread..
This is really good for those GPS programs that only CE car units can do. This would be amazing step towards running full gps sw with all options on a ppc windows mobile way to go..
I wish you a luck... fingers crossed.
I own only PB5.0...
Good Luck Dude..Hope u comeup wid a Revolution..
Will you produce a kitchen for all devices presented here, or (and) others as well?.. And how do you think, could the drivers porting process be a hell?
wow definitely subscribing to this thread!
but are you using a derivative of the meizu firmware based on wince 6? Wouldn't that be easier than making something from scratch? Is it possible to port that to our devices? This is an excellent morning treat =)
As I say before, porting drivers is not requried, becouse drivers work on kernel level so there is no somethink like WM drivers, there are onlu Win CE drivers, But drivers from Win CE 5.2 (on which are based all WM devices) are compatibile with CE 6. I'm curently working on stable distribution for Win CE 6, then i will merge WM emulator image with CE image and will see if it will work, if yes I will go to hardware test - my candidate is my ipaq 214 becouse it is perfect for Win CE due to strong hardware, and there is not many drivers to repleace becous this ipaq doesnt have camera, gsm, gps... If this all will go fine I will publish distribution and instructions how to do this...
not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?
domineus said:
not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?
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in case of Kernel it is like XP to Vista kernel, in case of UI there is not big difference from 5.2 to 6
but then with this would it be possible to integrate at least cosmetic theme like uhm this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KVG-6sriwY
minus the multi touch feature
elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...
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elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...
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No the API's are most the same, there are eaven the same DirectX and DirectShow, as default Net cf 2.0 can be included
I was actually thinking about something like this about a month or two ago.... i watched the vs studio videos on it and it just started looking like it was a little above my level for the amount of time i had Good luck on the project!
To those of you worried about cosmetics...
Right now we have the control to customize about 50 to 60 percent of the ui. With a custom build of wince, everything is 100% customizable (because we have access to the source code.)
I like customizability but I have no clue on where to begin ><
that would be the sucky part...but if it is touted to be better and faster than win ce 5.0 it would be something I am willing to try
Hello!
Who can tell me how to disable the automatic integrated windows mobile memory managment! I wanna set the programm memory by myself!!!
thank you
welcome to the forum.
this memory management is part of wm2003 and not present in any OS beyond that, because they don't use the ram as storage space anymore. maybe you want to have a look into the blueangel wm6 section and into the newer builds released there, maybe you'd want to kiss wm2003 goodbye after all, that would solve that problem and many more you maybe didn't even know you had
like for instance that hardly any 3rd party software supports wm2003 and many new features are possible with windows mobile 6.5.
another thing is, look at my post, i just adviced you on how to bypass your issue, not solve it. you will face that all the time with wm2003, it is just not supported anymore, because we all have the possibility to run the new OS, so why bother with the old one. it is like windows 7 coming out and every one is thinking about that and you ask about windows 3.11
maybe this didn't help you much, but you should have a look, whether windows mobile 6.5 is an option for you and then re-post and i can guide you on how to get there. it might seem complicated in the first place, but it is definetely worth the effort
Hello im new to android i have a advent vega but will love it to have some sort of windows on it if anyone has any ideas or if this is possible please post thanks
Apparently the next version of Windows will be able to run on ARM processors such as the Tegra 2 in the Vega. I doubt it'll end up on the Vega, though someone might port it over.
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If we do get windows on vega, would be able to install windows software such as skype,msn etc i probaly guess so but please correct if im wrong
I would be very surprised if windows will ever come to our vegas. Memory i would say is the main issue, xp would be the only one able to run with 512mb of ram, and that has poor touch screen support. I am running windows 7 with 1gb of ram (min system req) on my laptop, and it runs very slow. As far as i am aware even the netbook version needs 1gb. Be happy with android.
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
yioti said:
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
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Won't ever happen, windosws mobile is all closed source. Android is much better anyway, just get used to it
Agreed, winmob on the vega prob wont occour.
I too, miss some great apps and games which doubtfully will ever appear on andriod. The android gaming community, seems a little shallower than the wince lot.
I stll keep my htc touch and diamnd 2 specifically because of this.
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i think if we can get android 3.0 (or whatever the numbers will be) on our vega's, its more then enough to have enough fun with it, an operating system that does not thing its a smartphone and optimized for tablets. i used many android smartphones before, but using even 2.2 on vega is more fun then any smartphone i think, at least you can read web sites and not harm your eyes
PS : i have a joojoo tablet too, which runs win7 and i think android is better and faster on a tablet like vega ( tegra2 tabets).
Some of the cheap import tablets like the Zenithink ZT-180 have roms for WinCE - but from what I have read nobody really uses them since even WinCE is pretty poor as a tablet OS (well, that and the ZT-180 is pretty rubbish!).
as a student you can get the windows embedded 7 development kit for free, that should be able to run on the advent vega but my knowledge isnt yet sufficient to build and deploy a rom in order t test it
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
Budius said:
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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What about office tools? i have yet to find a decent word processor that retains all (or most) of word's features.
sadly, while gdocs looks lovely, writing documents is still a pain..
Although I also wish that I could do some serious work on my tablet / smartphone, you simply can not do it (too small screen => primarily wasn't meant for this kind of job, but it's great in mobility and therefore "valuable information on the go").
Tablets & smartphones are used to consume / present information and PCs / workstations are used to generate that information.
I have also tried all kind of Office software (QuickOffice HD, Polaris Office, Docs To Go, GDocs,...), but reality is that generating information on Android is 30-50% slower than on a 20" monitor with keyboard & mouse hooked on a PC.
Yes, you could make a new office software on Android that would need a keyboard, mouse & external monitor, but that would defeat the purpose of mobility.
And sadly there is no such good software on Android with so many funtionalities that are found in Microsoft Office.
IMHO you can do up to 30 minutes of work without problems, for anything above that, please do yourself a favor and use a PC.
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
Yes, I already heard of that tech.
It's something like remote desktop (but a bit better).
http://desktop.onlive.com/overview
Will see how this performs in real life when it's released for Android.
stokesyblack said:
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
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And that time is NOW!
OnLive Desktop is now available on Android:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
For free registration and more info, check my above post!
I would like to hear your thoughts on this software!
EDIT: It appears the download is US only.
Here is a link to APK file.
Hmmmm interesting I am downloading now
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Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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stokesyblack said:
Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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Sorry, but I haven't used this myself.
If you read my signature, I'm still on stock Froyo and this app needs at least Gingerbread.
I've read only good things about this.
I use QuickOffice for documents, but I only view documents, and these android office apps aren't even good at that!
But I've tried OnLive (for gaming) on SGS and it's amazing!!!!111one
Now to get some answers for your questions:
1. I think you need to restart your OnLive desktop in order to fully accept your mouse&keyboard input.
2. I went to https://desktop.onlive.com/account/myfiles and uploaded a doc file and then redownloaded it without a problem. I'm from Slovenia - EU and I've used Firefox on a PC with Ubuntu/Linux OS.
hi lats how to install im write my email address and nothing why sombody help mi?thanks