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How the hell do I De-cert my XDA2

Sorry if this gets asked all the time guys, have scoured your excellent forum for info but to no avail.
My ignorance is due to being an ex smartphone owner, which i am sure you know are easy to de-cert.
I just want to chuck a load of games and non-approved utils onto my XDA, but DAMMIT, it won't fookin let me
Cracking forum by the way guys, has taken me ages to find you!
Mart

Never touched a smart phone. I've never heard of "de-cert." What is it? Doesn't sound like something that needs to be done on the XDA, certainly I've never seen it said here, and I've been around since the dinosaur ages.

It allows non valid windows CE applications to be installed - i.e. not officially approved software

I've never heard of an officially-approved piece of software for a Pocket PC. I don't think there is a certification program for that. In any case, your PPC will let you install any PPC software, approved or not, whatever, it won't care.

Excellent, however I keep getting
"filename" is not a valid windows CE setup file.
Am I being stupid here, installing in the wrong way?

I have only seen that error when I tried running the wrong version (not for Pocket PC) on my unit.
Might want to make sure the app is for Pocket PC and that the cpu type is correct.

Cheers - most of my smartphone software must be incompatible then, even though the spv uses a version of PPC.
Any site recommendations where I can get hold of PPC software for free? seems to be damn expensive in most places!
Thanks again

Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)

Smartphone software is not PPC-compatible. Lots of titles have releases for both PPC and Smatphone, but I've never seen one that has both in the same release (though I suppose you could package multiple versions with one installer).
In any case, go to the developers' sites and see if they have PPC compatible versions.

wfberg said:
Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)
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Not true, some Smartphone software is certified but not all. There are many applications available for MS Smartphone that can only run on application unlocked handsets. Not all authors can afford to apply for certification and for many utils it's hardly worth the bother. Thankfully for most of the existing handsets it is relatively easy to application unlock them so that uncertified apps can be installed.
And going back to the OP's question, Smartphone software is not the same as PocketPC software and whilst a few rare titles can be run on both, most cannot.

www.freewareppc.com
has loads of goodies on there.
Smartphone software wise - I am not sure but I think I saw an emulator for PPC at one point - could not find it though - does anybody know if this exists as there is some good programs for smartphone that have no PPC equal???

run WM in iphone, Android in PPC???

Is that possible to run WM in an iPhone.
Or run Android in a PPC?
I mean directly flash the ROM into iPhone or PPC.
Not like "running android on Kaiser"
Could anyone do this kind of "transplan"?
We should have a sub forum discuss about it, that make WM, and PPC more fun with it.

People are trying to make andriod to work in emulators on top of windows mobile first because they want it to be stable.
When everything is working stable, developers could look into flashing a andriod rom with andriod bootloader onto a device.
For now it is more important to get everything to work properly.

and about the iPhone.. we still dont know wether its fake or not.. its just a rurmor.. the developer promised it to be released by jan.. till then wait for jan..

i think WM on iphone is fake.............
there are very rare chances of that happenning.......

WM on iphone
there is WM on iphone, Norwegian developer did it,
http://5x5m.com/lp/277/windowsmobile.html

is it going to be freeware???????
i would seriously think about getting an i phone then........

Why would somebody want to have WM on a device which can't be used with stylus?

At the start, I knew that there was something fishy about it. Look at the phone, the bootloader is too "friendly" to be a beta.

hskeik said:
there is WM on iphone, Norwegian developer did it,
http://5x5m.com/lp/277/windowsmobile.html
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"Okay, looks like we (I, the bloggers, the Internet, the Windows Mobile users) were "too excited" (?) by running Windows Mobile on iPhone hardware. As it turned out (thanks for the comments and E-Mails), the video and the whole story above is a hoax and part of a viral marketing campaign from Sonic Emotion, a maker of surround-sound systems for PCs, handhelds and other things that need surround sound." - Source

There is already Android on PPC. I have it installed on my phone.
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-cab-file-for-automatic-install

wud_e said:
There is already Android on PPC. I have it installed on my phone.
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-cab-file-for-automatic-install
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yes, but it doesnt work very well
I think everybody should now, that there is a "working" androit for windows mobile based devices...

I'm definitely going to try it once its bootable as a seperate OS.
I'm sure the peeps at XDA are going to be successful in porting it on to ppc aswell, so I'm just patiently waiting.
Akshay

There is already android on msm 7200 Chipsets like the Kaiser or Vouge
And it's not an Emulator and run on the ROM.
But you must load the Bootloader "HaRET" on Windows, and after that, Windows mobile is quitted
also, windows mobile is working on iphone wich lags realy

Say WM is flashed onto iPhone somehow. But as Parg said it can't be controlled by stylus. And there is no Dpad, then some application can not be used with that hardware.
Indeed, it makes much more sense to get a Diamond instead of trying to flash WM on iPhone.

Additional to the hardware troubles (stylus, unsupported multitouch, ...), there would be license troubles. Guess you don't want to pay MS for WM on iPhone, even if that was possible, right?
Android, or at least a compatible system, should be possible for every device (at least in theory). However, if I buyed a device including a WM license, I'd prefer a good emulator (or rather VM, similar to the J2ME VMs which allow to use Opera Mini). That way, both WM and Android programs would run fine. OK, bad chance to modifiy the main system interface (start menu + Today screen), but I like the plugin concept of the Today screen anyway...

bobosky520 said:
Is that possible to run WM in an iPhone.
Or run Android in a PPC?
I mean directly flash the ROM into iPhone or PPC.
Not like "running android on Kaiser"
Could anyone do this kind of "transplan"?
We should have a sub forum discuss about it, that make WM, and PPC more fun with it.
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iphone? whats that? wasnt it a fad fashion accessory from last year that claimed to be a tech revolution in, well, in, I dont know? lets see, its not a smart phone, not a PPC, not a Symbian, its more a feature phone containing a proprietary operating system with very limited 3rd party support apps and interface.
Why would such a great device want WM running on it? oh yeah I know, it sux and its boring UI would eventually drive you nuts for lack of customization and limitation of available "decent" apps! hahahahhahhahha It'll never run M2D or some of the other awesome skinnable applications or any Linux OS etc, Its just WacOSX and doesnt even provide onboard bluetooth with A2DP holly crap even my 5 year old piece of junk Symbian supports A2DP, in a few months WM devices will be released with Bluetooth v2.1 (700kbps) and soon version 3 speeds up to 480Mbps. carried away sorry

Klael said:
Say WM is flashed onto iPhone somehow. But as Parg said it can't be controlled by stylus. And there is no Dpad, then some application can not be used with that hardware.
Indeed, it makes much more sense to get a Diamond instead of trying to flash WM on iPhone.
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Dpad is not essential for PPC,
usually, apps can direct operate by touching the screen.
the only problem is games, a lot of games have to use dpad as controller.

Mort said:
Additional to the hardware troubles (stylus, unsupported multitouch, ...), there would be license troubles. Guess you don't want to pay MS for WM on iPhone, even if that was possible, right?
Android, or at least a compatible system, should be possible for every device (at least in theory). However, if I buyed a device including a WM license, I'd prefer a good emulator (or rather VM, similar to the J2ME VMs which allow to use Opera Mini). That way, both WM and Android programs would run fine. OK, bad chance to modifiy the main system interface (start menu + Today screen), but I like the plugin concept of the Today screen anyway...
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iphone hardware is not a big problem,
as long as iphone is one device, no matter how many people are study on it, it is one device.
Android on PPC is a problem, there are so many different PPC, which one should we study on?
License is not necessary, Hacking, of course, is not legally with license.

Android on HTC Wizard ?

I sow here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265 that the user DZO ported Android as an image on a virtual machine for HTC Touch.
They have a site here http://www.myhtcphone.com/ and I downloaded the needed files to try to see if it is working on my old Wizard. It is very simple to install it (they created even a .cab file)
But is seems that is not working. It is saying booting linux, it is displaying the console with 4 or 5 lines and after that it remains with a white screen.
Doses any one tried also to run this Android image on an HTC Wizard ?

Yes, currently there is no working version of Android on the Wizard, simply because we are missing some propriatery JAVA drivers and framework, that at least I have not been able to secure for our use. Perhaps in time a version will become available. I am still working on a version, but I dont have much hope for it.

No big deal, however I do not like Android... For now, Android is out of WM league, i know it's based on linux, but just a few apps are availible and so... A two years ago I instaled linux on my SX1 - what a wasting of time - Qtopia sucks also...

in open-nandra com sound driver for linux HTC Wizard - how this add to android?

It is something new, I have an old MDA Vario, and I want him working for Android

If you want the best system for your MDA Vario, use Windows Mobile. I suggest Ham3r's H3r5, but CRACING's CR96 is good for WM6.5, and many ROMs to choose from, even though very few are recent.
If, instead, you want Android, I suggest a different phone. I got an old AT&T Tilt, which is HTC Kaiser, and it runs Android well. In my opinion Wizard was a better phone for its time, but Android on Wizard is very immature, and advancing very slowly.

How about Windows Phone 7? See: http://www.xda-developers.com/featu...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)

Macs & More

I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?

Kooji said:
I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?
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I posted a thread a while ago regarding just this, whether other Mac users are using WinMo phones as well. Regarding ROM's, I still have no clue. You could try virtual software if you have an Intel Mac, I'm on a PPC Powermac so that's not an option for me.
Turns out there just aren't many and using a PC is the best solution.
Windows Mobile just isn't Mac friendly.

it's not just a mac thing it's also not very linux, 64bit xp, 64bit vista, 64bit win7, 32bit vista, 32bit win7 friendly

Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.

Kooji said:
Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.
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I feel your pain.

Microsoft Automotive OS (Windows CE)

Morning everyone!
I recently bought a Cadillac CTS-V Coupe, and noticed that under information, it states the NAV system runs Microsoft Windows Automotive.
I did some recon, and found that this is a stipped down version of Windows CE? I've tried searching to see if anyone has done any hacking, I've seen a few basic mods/hacks, but nothing crazy like the stuff xda-devs push out...
Just wondering if there's been any work done on this? Any cool hacks?

So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only acessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.

jwoegerbauer said:
So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only accessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.
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I was just wondering if any work had maybe been done. I'm not familiar with the OS as you can tell. But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
I know there's been a few minor hacks and mods (re: interface changes, animations, pictures, voice prompts, map side-loading, etc...). But that's all I've read so far...

Zhariak said:
But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
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Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?

jwoegerbauer said:
Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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I read that it runs a Windows CE kernel, also read that it uses a lot of stuff that Windows Mobile uses... Main interest would be to see if it's possible to load up a complete Windows GUI (like what people did for the HTC Shift)...

I have a cts-v as well and I'm hoping to play with the latest nav software update disc (2012) when I receive it tomorrow. I know some have converted it to usb so it doesn't take 2-3 hours to update your system. I'm also wanting to see if I can do some mods/hacks/tweaks to it just to play around. Can you point me in the right direction on the mods/tweaks you've read about? Of course I'd just like to start out with images/sounds/slash screen stuff first.

windows ce
jwoegerbauer said:
Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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what about windows embedded device like HP mediasmart connect x280n can you update it to windows embedded 8 pro

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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.

Did you find anything? I'm looking to "hack" my 2011 Fusion Sport w/ Nav. Runs on similar platform based on my research.
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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.
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latest version
Hi there
Can any body upload the latest disc for the Cadillac cts? or just sent a link to my email: [email protected]
thanks
Ronen