Is the htc 10 worth buying? - Verizon HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi guys, so I've been looking for a new phone and since I have a big contract I can choose whatever phone I want for the same price (around 60 euros)..I really like the overall design and specs of the phone and I watched a lot of reviews but I wanted to ask your opinion..Is it worth signing a 2 year contract for this to be my daily phone..I Will torture the phone beacuse I do a lot of stuff on my phone..I read a lot of stuff and I dont know what is the best choice..All opinions are welcome.Thx guys
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How do you use your phone?
Do you plan on flashing custom ROMs / care about root?
Is reception/battery life going to affect your ability to make money? As in, does your phone directly impact your job?
What options do you have if/when your phone becomes damaged and you need to replace it with insurance? Is this a factor that should be heavily weighed?
You might see more answers on the general htc 10 forum @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/

@noahjk
I use my phone pretty intense, I always root my devices and install different roms..Battery is not really that important but since I'm not home for aproximately 7-8 hours it would be great if the battery is decent (at least 3.5h SOT)..Actually I need a phone that is capable of handling anything that I need and yes sometimes I do depend on my phone when working..Insurance is not a big deal I always have temoered glass and heavy duty case..thx for the reply man, I really appreciate it
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If you're overseas (guessing you are based on using euros) and you can purchase the s7e with the exynos processor, it's capable of root/custom ROMs and will be an all-around better phone, as well as come with water resistance specs that the 10 misses. It'll have a better battery life, better camera, better screen, better signal. That being said, I traded in my (snapdragon) s7e for the HTC 10, and I'm (fairly) happy with the trade. I wasn't a fan of the edge screen and I didn't like not being able to root (again because of snapdragon). I don't think you can go wrong with either of these phones, and these are the two I'd suggest you consider.
Some of the downsides of the 10 in my opinion are: Slightly worse battery life, camera currently doesn't work as well - but can hopefully be fixed either by HTC or a ROM through software, signal isn't as good (most likely because of the metal construction), I'd prefer an AMOLED screen for the always-on capabilities and the truer blacks (although the screen on the 10 is nothing to scoff at), and the notification LED only shows green & amber (s7e is RGB)
Things I like better about the 10: I prefer the slightly smaller size (not small though, perfect size IMO), I like that it has a normal screen, the speaker quality is slightly better (although nothing to write home about), I prefer USB type C to the MicroUSB in the s7e. Going along with the edge screen, I find the 10 easier to use. I used to always touch the screen when I didn't want to while picking the phone up. This might also impact the type of cases made for the s7e as far as durability goes since they have to work around the screen.
I'd suggest checking them both out in a store and seeing which you like - I know that's not the best way to test them, but hopefully it'll help steer you in the right direction.
Good luck!

I'll let you know when Verizon decides to actually have these in stock in their stores in NJ so they can take my money...still nowhere to be found from Sparta to Newark...WTF??? I don't get the marketing plan on selling these things only online lol

bakemcbride21 said:
I'll let you know when Verizon decides to actually have these in stock in their stores in NJ so they can take my money...still nowhere to be found from Sparta to Newark...WTF??? I don't get the marketing plan on selling these things only online lol
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Have you tried Best Buy? I picked an HTC 10 on the Verizon launch date. One of my buddies picked one up 5/15, and the other guy picked one up on 5/19. On each occasion, the Verizon HTC 10 was available (only silver model) and they had plenty in stock.
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xRogerxC said:
Have you tried Best Buy? I picked an HTC 10 on the Verizon launch date. One of my buddies picked one up 5/15, and the other guy picked one up on 5/19. On each occasion, the Verizon HTC 10 was available (only silver model) and they had plenty in stock.
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Really? I've been to like 20 verizon stores from 4/29 through this past Wednesday....nada... LOL. I actually order through work on our state/gov't account, but I still wanted to see/hold the phone in person before taking the plunge. Though I finally caved on Friday afternoon once the Ice View case was also finally listed to order (25% discount). I have 30 days to hope for the carbon grey so I can return/exchange it!

The last few months I've gone through the LG V10 , the Moto X pure Style, and just picked up the HTC 10. I feel like the V10 in the Moto X were too big to function with one hand. I like to be able to reach all of the buttons on the screen in the top and bottom corners with one hand the htc10 it's perfect for that.
I'm big into music so I needed a phone that could satisfy my semi audiophile needs. Hardware wise I think the V10 was the best but to be completely honest I can't tell the difference between the V10 and the htc10 in the quality of the sound. The Moto X was obviously a disappointment compared to the other 2.
HTC did a very good job with their newest handset. The screen looks great much better than the Moto X and the audio quality it's on par with the V10 and I can hold it in one hand I've only had it for a few hours but I'll let you know after a week's use
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Love it so far
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I truly believe there is no better phone on the market than HTC 10. I laugh at my friend's s7 when he has random reboots or his s7 overheats after 35-40 min of using camera ( went to zoo with kiddos. We were using our phones to take pics when his s7 heated up and rebooted lol) HTC 10 is also durable! No overheating issue even while playing Works of tanks Blitz. And it's smooth as butter
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bakemcbride21 said:
I'll let you know when Verizon decides to actually have these in stock in their stores in NJ so they can take my money...still nowhere to be found from Sparta to Newark...WTF??? I don't get the marketing plan on selling these things only online lol
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come to ny, ithaca VZW is littered with HTC 10's

Im loving mine so far. ??
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Now that I'm s-off running Viper Rom. The phone is even better. Battery life has improved greatly.

Running latest base on LeeDroid and the phone is fantastic, around 5h SOT and smooth as butter.. Great job HTC and LeeDroid
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So far not loving mine...
Just got it back from @jcase Friday, spent all weekend setting it up
Verizon HTC 10 Variant
LeeDroid with current Verizon firmware
Samsung Evo+ mc128d 128gb Uhs-i Class 10 Micro SD Card
Right off the bat the phone wouldn’t activate - said to call customer service. They had me go to Settings/Backup Reset/Restore Network Settings - in order to get the phone to work you must reset Network Settings then reboot, then restore Network Settings and reboot again - then 4G will come online.
2nd - the Samsung EVO+ wouldn’t work, phone reported as corrupt right from the box. I bought this card specifically for the Random speed. Card worked in the computer. Formatted card in the phone…in the computer - nothing (this was exFAT)Corrupted. Formatted card as FAT32 - bingo, that worked.
Today I notice music is skipping and hesitating…Bluetooth is not automatically connecting to the car radio - and it just randomly disconnects also.
I've had the phone lock up on me too several times. Had to hold the power and volume buttons to force shutdown - each time I lose 4G - have to do the above reset Network Settings twice/reboot twice to restore the 4G

bakemcbride21 said:
Really? I've been to like 20 verizon stores from 4/29 through this past Wednesday....nada... LOL. I actually order through work on our state/gov't account, but I still wanted to see/hold the phone in person before taking the plunge. Though I finally caved on Friday afternoon once the Ice View case was also finally listed to order (25% discount). I have 30 days to hope for the carbon grey so I can return/exchange it!
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I got mine from the Verizon store on route 3 in Clifton.

billmcg said:
So far not loving mine...
Just got it back from @jcase Friday, spent all weekend setting it up
Verizon HTC 10 Variant
LeeDroid with current Verizon firmware
Samsung Evo+ mc128d 128gb Uhs-i Class 10 Micro SD Card
Right off the bat the phone wouldn’t activate - said to call customer service. They had me go to Settings/Backup Reset/Restore Network Settings - in order to get the phone to work you must reset Network Settings then reboot, then restore Network Settings and reboot again - then 4G will come online.
2nd - the Samsung EVO+ wouldn’t work, phone reported as corrupt right from the box. I bought this card specifically for the Random speed. Card worked in the computer. Formatted card in the phone…in the computer - nothing (this was exFAT)Corrupted. Formatted card as FAT32 - bingo, that worked.
Today I notice music is skipping and hesitating…Bluetooth is not automatically connecting to the car radio - and it just randomly disconnects also.
I've had the phone lock up on me too several times. Had to hold the power and volume buttons to force shutdown - each time I lose 4G - have to do the above reset Network Settings twice/reboot twice to restore the 4G
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Did you format the card for internal too? I have the same card and i'm not experiencing any problems. My want to try a different sd-card to rule that out.

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Did you format the card for internal too? I have the same card and i'm not experiencing any problems. My want to try a different sd-card to rule that out.
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It wouldn't format internal storage as exFAT... Said it was too slow. Wouldn't work in the phone at all formatted as exFAT ... Internal or external
Any attempts to format in the computer didn't work either... It formatted alright / and worked in the computer... Just not in the phone.
Worked fine after formatting to FAT32
I tried half a dozen other cards at various sizes and manufacturers and they all worked... But they are all over 5 years old and FAT32 as well... I haven't taken the time to try and format one of them as exFAT to see if they would work..., maybe if I get some time I'll give it a try
I've adjusted the buffer settings and whatnot in Poweramp and I'm still getting music skipping don't know if that's the card or not

Well I think my card may be a little different. Also, are you using windows to format them? Thats not good.
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This is the card I purchased https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw
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HTC Vision to Nexus 4 Review

Hey guys,
It doesn't seem like a lot of us here is getting a Nexus. I just got one for myself, and it is fantastic, so I am just writing an opinion piece here for anyone that's looking for an upgrade
It is big
From 3.7" to 4.7" is quite a jump. After using the phone for just a few hours, the Vision seems to be tiny in my hand. By the way, my hand is not that big so I can barely manage to use it on one hand. They make the pattern lock screen smaller in ratio than normal, and the power button on the side, and it helps a little bit. Having to use the phone with two hands is annoying, but it should curb my cellphone use when I am driving,
and it is thin
I always feel that the Vision is too thick since the first time I pick it up. Feels like a brick that I can throw and kill people with. The Nexus, on the other hand, is really thin. In fact, it's thinner than the Vision's keyboard. Since the G2 has a concave back, which is nice for holding by the way, initially it feels like the Nexus's back is convex. Yet, holding the Nexus is not much more difficult, and the glass feels good.
Keyboard
My fear when I bought the Nexus was that I won't have a keyboard to use. I almost always use the hardware keyboard even though I type faster using the touch screen. I just like the mechanical feel. Even if I use the software keyboard, I use it in landscape mode because I want it to be spacious. However, the Nexus is so big that the software keyboard in portrait is still big and easy to type. It should be familiar with most people here because 4.2JB keyboard is almost the same as 4.0ICS.
About the Gesture Typing thing..... I don't use it. I don't like the notion of the computer learning what I want to type, telling me what I should type, suggesting me the word that I should use.... I decide what I input into my device.
Speed
It is fast. The Vision is almost unbearably slow for me these day. The Nexus is just fast and smooth. You'll love it.
Screen
The screen looks gorgeous. I don't know much about screen tech, but it looks much much much better than the Vision's. The glass is thinner so the screen appear closer to the user. It looks much more realistic. It is also darker, reflect less light so it appears as if the screen is almost the entire front face. Thinner side bezel also helps.
Battery
I have heard good things about the Nexus's battery, but those things haven't quite arrived on my phone yet. Granted, I haven't even charge it since I got it. After nearly 2 years of using the Vision with a lot of abuses, and with 4.0ICS on it, almost anything would have better battery anyways.
I am a heavy user, so the battery doesn't hold up to well. After 4 hours 20 minutes of usage, it went from 90% when I just got it to 17% ..... However, the screen was on for 2 hours, and I downloaded about 300MB of stuff via cell towers and 700MB of stuff via wifi. The phone also had to install quite a ton of stuff. So may be it will do better tomorrow. I'll update.
Update: I got through a day (12 hours) of medium use with 25% battery left. Not bad.
Camera
Haven't tried. I use a camera for shooting. But, in comparison with Vision's 4.0ICS patched camera, almost anything should be better anyways. I'll update this when I get a chance to shoot something.
4.2JB
It's great. Smooth (most of the part should be because of the quad-core processor with 2GB of RAM). Some new functions such as lock screen widget and day dreams. Lock screen widget selection is extremely limited (Gmail, SMS, Calendar, Soundsearch, Clock), we have better stuffs around. And the day dreams thing..... most Android phones don't even have a dock to begin with.
Space
On the 16GB model, you get 12GB for your stuff. The entire 16GB is ROM. So everything is in one place (which also means stuffs are faster than they are in SD card)
About that glass back
Someone said somewhere on the internet that the thing is also Gorilla Glass 2. Some other people said that it cracks within a day or so. Mine hasn't yet. The glittering dots is only visible when viewed with an angle. I don't know what is the deal with it.
And about that LTE thing
Edit: It is confirmed (youtube videos, news, etc.) that the Nexus 4 can work on LTE band IV (no root needed, just few touches). Rumors say that when T-Mobile has their LTE up and running, it will be LTE band IV.
I don't need LTE. At least a long as there a still a tiny cap for these expensive data plan.
However, HSPA+ on T-Mobile is not that slow either. I mentioned in my posts here and there that part of the reason internet feels slow just because the phone itself is slow. I also posted speedtest on the Vision a while back ago, 3-4Mbps something.
If HSPA+ is a highway, the Vision would be an old Honda minivan... towing a mobile home. It just cant utilize the full potential of the network. The Nexus, on the other hand, is a freaking 12-cyclinder Ferrari zipping around at max speed, only slows down because of traffic congestion.
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And the wacky things
There's an IMEI sticker on the back. The shipped plastic cover even has a cut out for that space. Even a box painted for it there..... I already bought a full-body screen protector, hopefully the Skinomi didn't rush to make these plastic without space for the IMEI sticker. Weird f***ing decision....
Also, no headphones included.
Things that I forgot
I'll add later if you can kindly remind me.
Nice one mate. Got the same plans but waiting on G to ship my damn fone. I have had 3 phones with physical keyboards but the capacitive screen on my DZ means the physical keyboard is still as new as the day I bought the phone.
I would have carried on using the DZ as it serves all my needs but that bit were it says "Loading" for like 20 secs and you cant do anything with the phone, is starting to get on my nerves.
Enjoy ur new phone.
Nice review. Using a Nexus 4 (or any other recent device), the G2 feels like at least 5 years old technology.
How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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i wanted to get this phone but google and lg has really f'd this one up for countrys who do not have playstore...
Anyways nice review and i hope this phone will get here at all
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I am still staying with Desire Z it is useful enough.
Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
One of the main reasons people avoid this device I think. Bad/mediocre battery life + non removable battery. If you have access to a charger it's not so bad, but not all of us are that lucky.
I should note that battery reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, though. I get 6h+ screen on time with the sgs3 (lte disabled) and a lot of tests I've seen clock it in at a lot lower.
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Curious where you heard good things about the battery. Every review I've read has said the opposite, though I have read that compared to the gnex it's a lot better.
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Well, that's what I heard. That it's better then the GNexus and people get 10-14 hours from it.
I got pictures this time
Agreed with blk jack.. how long is the screen on ? Kyaraofire? Do u use data or just wifi?
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How is the awake time so little??
It's not even awake when the screen is on most of the time..
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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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I fall in love!!!
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Great review, cheers. I'm definitely grabbing one once they are in stock again.
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Nice review man. I'm also on a g2 right now used the s3 for a month and sold it for the nexus 4 but wasn't expecting to be backordered for 3 weeks. Ur definitely right about the g2 feeling like a tiny brick after using one of the newer bigger screen phones lol. In all honestly I still love my g2 but like someone mentioned I just can't take the slowness anymore. I'm so pumped for the nexus 4 I'm perfectly fine with 16gb and no lte as I doubt tmobile will have lte in toledo ohio for at least 2 years. And blk_jack are u gonna make a rom for nexus 4 please do!! I got freaking 5 HOURS OF ON SCREEN TIME with ur mimicry rom!!!
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The rom team I've been working with (SlimRoms) is currently working on establishing a 4.2 base with the nexus 4 as one of the model devices for that base. Right now a number of devices (21) run 4.1.2. With a large number of those if not all scheduled to get 4.2, along with the nexus 4.
TLDR; If you want a jellybean rom that I've been working on check out SlimBean.
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Thanks for the review. What really holds me from replacing my Desire Z is the keyboard... I can type without even looking at the keys, a bit like typing on a "real" keyboard (with two thumbs versus 10 fingers, though) on the Desire Z's, which (for me at least) just isn't possible on any touch screen keyboard I tried so far. Also the fn keys are really great, speeds up typing quite a lot because I don't have to long press some button, wait for the phone to recognize I have been long pressing, select the character I really wanted to type etc...
Oh, and for anyone really having speed issues with their DZ/G2: Did you clean install your ROM, or did you update without wiping? For me, this made the difference between a quite fast reacting phone and a unbearably sluggish one...
I received my N4 yesterday, it replaces my good old vision. I'm experiencing quiet the same things. Except the Keyboard. I LOVE the swiping thing. Already had swipeIT on my vision for quick texting with one thumb. The N4 Version is even better (perhaps it's a subjective feeling cause of the genereal speed of the device).
But I miss the HW keyboard while ssh'ing one of our servers. Would not be that bad, if the N4 had a trackbal.... the second thing I miss.
There is such a thing as a fast qwerty. HTC Doubleshot has been out for quite some time now. Made the switch back in February. Exceptional little phone.
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Thanks for this! Just what I was looking for I have a upgrade coming soon, Considering getting a N4.
Steven How said:
How's the battery life? I'm kinda interested in this phone..but the 16gb is putting me off.. :/ on single full charge,how long is the display up time?
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My contract ends in a couple of weeks, I really want an N4 as well but because its only 16GB and they are sold out atm, means I will probably get the Galaxy S3. Is there anything faster with an SD slot?
Wow. Very informative review. I have been waiting for the money to buy the 16GB, and this just makes me want it even more. Unfortunately, until G has the stock, wont be able to get anyways.
Thanks for the review! :good::good:

Welcome to 2015!

Welcome to 2015 Droid Incredible! This thing will be 5 years old soon, crazy! For some of us, this was our first smartphone, or our first foray into the world of Android.
I got mine on launch day April 29, 2010. Stood outside of Verizon in a line waiting to get my hands on it.
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​Anyone else out there still hanging on to theirs? I've got mine and while it's taken quite a beating over time it still functions 100%. I've been through seven other phones since, and the Incredible holds the crown of longest continuous usage of two and a half years before upgrading (held out for the GS III when it launched). I've kept it because A. It was my first smartphone, and B. It isn't worth enough to sell
It still makes a great secondary device. MP3 player, camera, IP camera, WiFi browser, messaging device, game device for the kids, and others. Still running CM7.2 with an ICS theme. I've found it to be the most stable over the last 3 years and it doesn't miss a beat.
2015 folks!
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I know not many still come to this ancient section of the forums, but I still see a few of you from the Incredible's hay day around here. I remember Tiny, Pons, Jermaine, ihtfp69 (skyraider), Chad, WildStang, Vernox, HeyItsLou, Chingy, cmlusco, incubus26jc, Invisiblek, Newt, wdfowty, 00McD00, and many more who made this device what it was.
This phone is full of memories and how I got interested in Android in the first place.
Nice to see an old time Incredible user post here again.
I still have mine lying around somewhere. I think I only picked it up once after I moved to the Note 2 and thought, how did I ever use such a small screen lol. Now I'm on a OnePlus One and off of Verizon.
The Incredible was my first smart phone and I'm glad it was.
Still in Use
I still use mine as a great Blu Tooth MP3 player... I even just purchased a bigger extended battery for next to nothing and a 64 gb sd card to hold more music! I still love this phone.. and I could use it as a backup if my current one ever dies (Droid Turbo)
I just stopped by to see if people were still using this phone. I sold my back to Verizon for 200 bucks when they were doing a Trade In special when I got my Note 4.
I still have fond memories of it, but boy could I never go back to such a tiny screen.
i used mine as a backup 3 weeks ago. before that I was using it as an mp3 player.
i just bought another one form my daughter to use asn a mp3 palyer.
Old Inc for mp3 player
Hi this was my first android phone and haven't switched back since. I was wondering if anyone still has any old rom's laying around. I know I have a couple recent ones but I want one that is stable to run google play music as an mp3 player.
i have been using evervolv kitkat. it lets me install all the regular modern apps. I use poweramp and tasker to make it start and stop when it gets power in the car.. 64 gb sd card works fine as well.
i dont care if it gets mms or video recording.
My Turbo Broke
But this still works and I am using it today! It's actually why I am on these threads at the moment, looking for a simple solid ROM to load up into it. The last time I played with my Incredible was for the sake of booting Windows 95 on it for laughs. I need to make phone calls and not play solitaire though!
So yay Incredible, it's like the "Nokia" of androids from my personal experience (( I"m SURE other folks have had different experiences, thoughts, opinions. That's just my own lol ))
Reizvoller said:
But this still works and I am using it today! It's actually why I am on these threads at the moment, looking for a simple solid ROM to load up into it. The last time I played with my Incredible was for the sake of booting Windows 95 on it for laughs. I need to make phone calls and not play solitaire though!
So yay Incredible, it's like the "Nokia" of androids from my personal experience (( I"m SURE other folks have had different experiences, thoughts, opinions. That's just my own lol ))
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the only thing that did not work with evervolve was mms and video recording.
added a program to display the on screen nav buttons and one to dim the capacitive buttons and its a nice little kitkat phone if a bit slow.
Still going strong
I knew someone would have a thread like this going! :highfive: I was curious how many of these things are left on the planet haha
The Droid Incredible was my first smartphone. I'm even kept my Verizon unlimited data plan! I've been buying my phones off contract since the dinc - went to the Galaxy Nexus, and now the Moto X 2014. I'm most likely going to buy the Nexus 6P within the next few months.
Anyway, the incredible is rocking almost as good as the day I bought it. The battery drains pretty quick, but that's to be expected. I'm running Cyanogen 7.2.0 and it's super snappy. App updates still roll through every once in awhile, but I run Airplane Mode WiFi to keep the radio off. I recently bought a house and, to cut costs, I figured out how to USB tether my Moto X to my laptop and then broadcast WiFi to the dinc. It's a pretty ridiculous setup, but I'm going through over 100GB of data for $86/month and no home cable/internet bill *suck it Verizon*
The dinc was such an awesome first smartphone. I learned how to root/rom with it and the knowledge about Android I gained has always earned me guru status with everyone I meet that asks about smartphones. Keep on keepin' on everybody. I'll be stopping in these forums for a while, I'm sure.
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I knew someone would have a thread like this going! :highfive: I was curious how many of these things are left on the planet haha
The Droid Incredible was my first smartphone. I'm even kept my Verizon unlimited data plan! I've been buying my phones off contract since the dinc - went to the Galaxy Nexus, and now the Moto X 2014. I'm most likely going to buy the Nexus 6P within the next few months.
Anyway, the incredible is rocking almost as good as the day I bought it. The battery drains pretty quick, but that's to be expected. I'm running Cyanogen 7.2.0 and it's super snappy. App updates still roll through every once in awhile, but I run Airplane Mode WiFi to keep the radio off. I recently bought a house and, to cut costs, I figured out how to USB tether my Moto X to my laptop and then broadcast WiFi to the dinc. It's a pretty ridiculous setup, but I'm going through over 100GB of data for $86/month and no home cable/internet bill *suck it Verizon*
The dinc was such an awesome first smartphone. I learned how to root/rom with it and the knowledge about Android I gained has always earned me guru status with everyone I meet that asks about smartphones. Keep on keepin' on everybody. I'll be stopping in these forums for a while, I'm sure.
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Probably not many at this point, though I still find people using iPhone 3GS/4 every once in a while. Not so much with older Android devices.
The 6P is a beast and would be a good upgrade to the Moto X (I had a '14 for a decent bit of time). Last Android phone I had was the 5X last month but I sent it back because of battery life and random sluggishness getting in the way of using it. Probably software related but I'm very happy with my iPhone 6s at the moment. If I had gone with the 6P I'll bet I'd still be using it.
Yeah, my battery is pretty much shot but it's a 1300 MAh cell from 2010 so that's expected. I don't care enough to get a new one either, but they're on Amazon still. CM 7.2 is the sweet spot IMO for this phone, 2.3 was still pretty light on resources and anything after it is going to feel sluggish. There are a few browsers that cater to low end devices that work well too, like Opera or even Dolphin Zero amongst others.
I certainly learned a lot about Android and how it works with this device, and it has carried over to many others like the Evo, GS III, HTC M8, Moto X, LG G3, and plenty others I've helped friends with. I'm not quite sure why I still come over here, but I do nonetheless. That's where most of my nearly 1k posts have come from though, right here in the DINC section.
Anyway, here's to 2016!
I haven't had my Droid Incredible as long as some of you, as I received mine as a refurbed model (I am cheap!) in Feburary of 2011; however, I am still using it on Verizon's network, running Cyanogenmod 7. It's been a pretty robust phone and I didn't expect it to last 5+ years.
I wonder how many other people still have active Droid Incredibles? Mine is likely going to be replaced soon--it hasn't been very stable the last few months. Extended use causes it to get hot and it locks up, requiring the battery to be pulled. Oftentimes when this happens, it will hang on the boot screen, too. I'm not a heavy user of my phone, but it's starting to get rather annoying, so it's time to put the Incredible out to pasture.
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I haven't had my Droid Incredible as long as some of you, as I received mine as a refurbed model (I am cheap!) in Feburary of 2011; however, I am still using it on Verizon's network, running Cyanogenmod 7. It's been a pretty robust phone and I didn't expect it to last 5+ years.
I wonder how many other people still have active Droid Incredibles? Mine is likely going to be replaced soon--it hasn't been very stable the last few months. Extended use causes it to get hot and it locks up, requiring the battery to be pulled. Oftentimes when this happens, it will hang on the boot screen, too. I'm not a heavy user of my phone, but it's starting to get rather annoying, so it's time to put the Incredible out to pasture.
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I use mine everyday as a media player in my car. I am running evervolved ( kitkat) but no phone service
new batteries are cheap on amazon i have used this as a backup. evevolved has mms issues but if you use the verizon messaging app its all good. I hear that there are video camera issues, but i have taken less than 10 vidies on ALL my phones.
Hello guys, 2021 it's approaching and I still own my Incredible. Who else?
It's still working but it's a CDMA and have no plan with it. Not interested in aquiring one either.
So, thinking in bringing it back to a useful life found this thread.
Is anyone still around that can share some ideas on how can I make my Droid useful??, i guess it would all begin with a ROM, right?
I still have mine running tiny's version of CM10. It runs well enough, but I don't use it for much. Occasionally as a sound machine or a baby monitor for the little one in a pinch. The battery (3rd battery I think?) is starting to expand again though. And, since I also have a Galaxy S4, Nexus 5X, and Google Pixel leftover as old phones I'm finding less use for it.
The Galaxy S4 has had the most longevity for me. It's a Verizon model that I rooted very shortly after I got it (still has the original and only exploitable bootloader on it). That thing's running the latest Android 11 on it even though it's like 7 years old now.
I think the Incredible would have lastest longer with developer focus on updates if there weren't such complications with storage space (actual usable fast storage is small). I still like the form factor. I wish there were more small phones.

If N5 gets root?

If the Note 5 gets permanent root, I will be tempted...will you?
Nope.
Samsung is dead to me until I can simply fastboot an unlocked bootloader.
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Heck no. I have a 200gb micro sd and 8000mah battery. I'll take the more practical N4 any day. I kill bloat with package disabler, so fine with it.
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Nope.
Samsung is dead to me until I can simply fastboot an unlocked bootloader.
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I don't think you are loss to Samsung lol because let's face it people who want root etc.. are maybe just 0.01% lol
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I don't think you are loss to Samsung lol because let's face it people who want root etc.. are maybe just 0.01% lol
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Until Amazon released their Amazon Underground app, I was having problems with their app store app because it had somehow been corrupted and would not communicate properly with the installed apps and their server. I could not uninstall and reinstall it to fix the problem because Verizon made the Amazon App Store app a system app.
Owning a phone/tablet without root is like owning a PC with no admin rights. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks it's acceptable.
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Until Amazon released their Amazon Underground app, I was having problems with their app store app because it had somehow been corrupted and would not communicate properly with the installed apps and their server. I could not uninstall and reinstall it to fix the problem because Verizon made the Amazon App Store app a system app.
Owning a phone/tablet without root is like owning a PC with no admin rights. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks it's acceptable.
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Agreed. A non-rooted phone is totally unacceptable to me too.
No, I won't be tempted. I'm done with Samsung. I've gone without root for nearly a year now, I'm rather over it. Hopefully HTC or Sony come out with a phone I like, otherwise I'm moving to Windows or IOS.
You can go to IOS then jailbreak it then have your phone hacked and basically useless.
Or you can buy the Kickstarter phone called robin. It is completely unlocked.
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You can go to IOS then jailbreak it then have your phone hacked and basically useless.
Or you can buy the Kickstarter phone called robin. It is completely unlocked.
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If you don't have unlimited data, cloud storage can be a problem. 5.2" display is a bit small for my taste. Once you go to 5.7" it is hard to downsize.
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Agreed. I non-rooted phone is totally unacceptable to me too.
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What about Sony? They are the only ones to match the past couple galaxies on an objective level.
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What about Sony? They are the only ones to match the past couple galaxies on an objective level.
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It's not about physical features. I like to be able to disable certain apps, block ads and there are apps I like that require superuser privileges. I'm crazy about ViPER4Android. It requires root to function. Adfree Android not only blocks ads but it blocks known malicious websites.
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It's not about physical features. I like to be able to disable certain apps, block ads and there are apps I like that require superuser privileges. I'm crazy about ViPER4Android. It requires root to function. Adfree Android not only blocks ads but it blocks known malicious websites.
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I got this. I was just suggesting Sony like Z3 or so as some of the best alternatives. Is there just as many root restrictions on the Z3?
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I got this. I was just suggesting Sony like Z3 or so as some of the best alternatives. Is there just as many root restrictions on the Z3?
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I appreciate that. Maybe I'll look into that for my next phone. But there'll be new phones by then. I always use a phone for at least a couple years. In the past 5 years or so I've only had 2 phones before my Note 4. I got it because I liked my Note 2 so much. Also I have extreme need of the stylus. It's going to be pretty hard to give up this phone though. I like it a lot.
Actually I don't know anything about any of the other phones on the market. When I go to get something new I'll study on it. Like I said my Note 2 made me decide on the Note 4 and I didn't even look at anything else.
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I appreciate that. Maybe I'll look into that for my next phone. But there'll be new phones by then. I always use a phone for at least a couple years. In the past 5 years or so I've only had 2 phones before my Note 4. I got it because I liked my Note 2 so much. Also I have extreme need of the stylus. It's going to be pretty hard to give up this phone though. I like it a lot.
Actually I don't know anything about any of the other phones on the market. When I go to get something new I'll study on it. Like I said my Note 2 made me decide on the Note 4 and I didn't even look at anything else.
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I'm there with you. My Note 2 was awesome. In fact if I fixed the screen it would still be awesome. And the Note 2 is going to receive official Lollipop.
And the Note 4 is a top device. Only dethroned by the Note5 minus the obvious setbacks.
Objectively speaking nothing tops the Note. I'm still considering the Note5 on and off just because minus the other very important lackings it is indeep the best overall device around.
Objectively it seems only the new Xperias are close. Subjectively however no one thing is perfect for everyone and all phones have very intriguing aspects.
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I'm there with you. My Note 2 was awesome. In fact if I fixed the screen it would still be awesome. And the Note 2 is going to receive official Lollipop.
And the Note 4 is a top device. Only dethroned by the Note5 minus the obvious setbacks.
Objectively speaking nothing tops the Note. I'm still considering the Note5 on and off just because minus the other very important lackings it is indeep the best overall device around.
Objectively it seems only the new Xperias are close. Subjectively however no one thing is perfect for everyone and all phones have very intriguing aspects.
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Yeah I'm sure the Octacore processor, 4 gb ram, enhanced S-pen and the new Note 4 apps make it a joy to use. And the fixed battery isn't that big of a deal. But I use the infra-red constantly. When I'm messing with my phone and the entertainment center needs a change I don't even have to put it down. Also even if it wasn't for the other lost functionality the lack of SD support is a fatal flaw. I won't own a phone that I can't take the card out of and put it in my computer. That's really stupid as far as I'm concerned. If my phone dies I will not lose all of the data I have in it.
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I'm probably going to pick it up regardless of root. But not right away, I like to observe for a couple of months and see if any major issues pop up.
I figure even if it doesn't get root, I'm not losing much since there's never going to be a permanent root solution for this Note 4. I will miss the battery and SD card options, but I can work around them. In exchange, I'll get a faster, smoother device with a MUCH better fingerprint scanner and better pen, and from what I'm hearing, better battery life. Plus it'll probably be upgraded to M waaaaaaaaay belt the Note 4.
So, unless something else grabs my eye, by the end of the year I'll probably pick this up and sell the Note 4 (or give it to a friend/family member).
But, a permanent root solution that doesn't trip Knox and allows Pay to work would be wonderful.
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I'm probably going to pick it up regardless of root. But not right away, I like to observe for a couple of months and see if any major issues pop up.
I figure even if it doesn't get root, I'm not losing much since there's never going to be a permanent root solution for this Note 4. I will miss the battery and SD card options, but I can work around them. In exchange, I'll get a faster, smoother device with a MUCH better fingerprint scanner and better pen, and from what I'm hearing, better battery life. Plus it'll probably be upgraded to M waaaaaaaaay belt the Note 4.
So, unless something else grabs my eye, by the end of the year I'll probably pick this up and sell the Note 4 (or give it to a friend/family member).
But, a permanent root solution that doesn't trip Knox and allows Pay to work would be wonderful.
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By that time there'll probably be a Developer Edition available.
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No way in hell, are you crazzy.....................
Without a replaceable battery I would have to be tethered to a battery charger half the time. I sleep with my Note 4 in my top pocket. I have two spare battery chargers on standby at all times. Back in the day of the Razz Maxx I had to keep two phone and I would move the SIM card to the phone with the fresh battery. The battery charger for the Razz Maxx could not keep up with demand. If you were watching video of security cameras the battery would die even if you were connected to the charger. The Note 5 will probably keep up with demand but I doubt you could effectively charge the battery and watch video at the same time. It would be a sloooooooow charge.
Three other bad things about using the usb connection to charge your phone.
1. Batteries have a longer life span if they or cycled property and slow charged.
2. It's going to cause wear to the usb port that you need primarily to transfer data. I guess You could use wireless charging to avoid that problem.
3. Heat: If you are Fast Cycling the discharge and charging of the Note 5, it is going to produce a lot of HEAT that is bad for batteries. Batteries charge better and live longer when they are charged cool. I keep a air conditioned room on my job site just to charge batteries for my power tools. When I pop a fresh battery into my Note 4 it cools the whole phone down.
All I can say is enjoy your new Note 5 and have fun.
Unless root adds micro sd, I think my days of Samsung devices as ended with the Note 4. Even if all go away from cards, I will not buy another Samsung out of spite.

Does 'Always On' interfere with Doze on S7?

As you may or may not know; most everyone (who isn't with T-Mobile) got their pre-orders in today for the Galaxy s7 and s7 edge.
I did, and love the fast charging! Upgrading from s5 to s7 has many perks, but I already see some pretty major cons. So this post is a mix of things I noticed, and my question is
"Do you notice some of these things as well on your S7 or S7 Edge?"
1) When gaming you can easily muffle the side speaker which sounds terrible
2) Fingerprint magnet backing and screen
3) You have to press the home button to turn screen on, then rest your finger on the home button again to unlock.. Kinda annoying
4) Heat, Heat Heat! Holding the phone in my palm for over 7 or so minutes will make my palms sweaty due to the heat, most notable behind the right side of the front screen on the back.
5) I don't believe Doze is kicking in, even after turning off the Always On display feature. I'm going to do more reporting and experiments to ensure this is valid. I already know how Doze works with my Nexus 7 (2013) and I love it! Leaving it on the table all night and only lose 1% is amazing! :good: Just hope my phone will follow the same way. If not, I think Verizon and Samsung are holding back on us.
6) My bank doesn't support the Samsung pay yet, and I'm sure a huge majority of users won't be able to use it until their bank does contact Samsung to enroll. My bank already has started the process, but it will take up to 45 days to even hear back from Samsung according to my bank. Oh well, Android Pay for now.
don't think doze is working here either.. when i checked gsam, i saw that I was losing either the exact same amount or more battery when the screen was actually off! crazy.
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What's "Doze"?
fastbenny said:
As you may or may not know; most everyone (who isn't with T-Mobile) got their pre-orders in today for the Galaxy s7 and s7 edge.
I did, and love the fast charging! Upgrading from s5 to s7 has many perks, but I already see some pretty major cons. So this post is a mix of things I noticed, and my question is
"Do you notice some of these things as well on your S7 or S7 Edge?"
1) When gaming you can easily muffle the side speaker which sounds terrible
2) Fingerprint magnet backing and screen
3) You have to press the home button to turn screen on, then rest your finger on the home button again to unlock.. Kinda annoying
4) Heat, Heat Heat! Holding the phone in my palm for over 7 or so minutes will make my palms sweaty due to the heat, most notable behind the right side of the front screen on the back.
5) I don't believe Doze is kicking in, even after turning off the Always On display feature. I'm going to do more reporting and experiments to ensure this is valid. I already know how Doze works with my Nexus 7 (2013) and I love it! Leaving it on the table all night and only lose 1% is amazing! :good: Just hope my phone will follow the same way. If not, I think Verizon and Samsung are holding back on us.
6) My bank doesn't support the Samsung pay yet, and I'm sure a huge majority of users won't be able to use it until their bank does contact Samsung to enroll. My bank already has started the process, but it will take up to 45 days to even hear back from Samsung according to my bank. Oh well, Android Pay for now.
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I am pretty sure doze works for me and I am on Verizon. I have my always on display turned off. My battery life is incredible. It's better than my lg g4. I did disable quite a few apps which helps. Also, disabling location history with Google helps a ton. That was an issue on my LG g4 as well.
My bank doesn't support Samsung pay either.
If you want to USE Samsung Pay just for the hell of it like I did, and your bank doesn't support it yes like mine (5th/3rd)...there is one work around I have found!
There is indeed one prepaid debit card that I know for a fact works well with it! It's the CHASE LIQUID DEBIT VISA card. Have to go to a chase bank to get it. Takes about 10 minutes or so to set up. Basic info is collected from you (personal info like you would give for any account / card).
Anyway, if you want to just try it out, it's an option. I used it at Walmart just 3 days ago. Pretty darn cool... Worked exactly like the commercial lol.
And right now when you make your first purchase on a registered card, you get to pick from a few $30 digital gift cards. I picked an EBay one. There was also Best Buy, and some other lesser known ones. Credited to your Samsung Pay account right away under the gift card accounts.
I still haven't decided on its merits. It's fun, especially if you're a geek like I suspect most of us on here are. But beyond that, it's still mostly easier to swipe a card. But for security and pure tech awesomeness... I'm going to probably continue to use it just because lol.
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If you want to USE Samsung Pay just for the hell of it like I did, and your bank doesn't support it yes like mine (5th/3rd)...there is one work around I have found!
There is indeed one prepaid debit card that I know for a fact works well with it! It's the CHASE LIQUID DEBIT VISA card. Have to go to a chase bank to get it. Takes about 10 minutes or so to set up. Basic info is collected from you (personal info like you would give for any account / card).
Anyway, if you want to just try it out, it's an option. I used it at Walmart just 3 days ago. Pretty darn cool... Worked exactly like the commercial lol.
And right now when you make your first purchase on a registered card, you get to pick from a few $30 digital gift cards. I picked an EBay one. There was also Best Buy, and some other lesser known ones. Credited to your Samsung Pay account right away under the gift card accounts.
I still haven't decided on its merits. It's fun, especially if you're a geek like I suspect most of us on here are. But beyond that, it's still mostly easier to swipe a card. But for security and pure tech awesomeness... I'm going to probably continue to use it just because lol.
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wrong thread? lol
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wrong thread? lol
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Lol I'm not sure how it's the wrong thread. Read the OP. He posted 6 statements. Number 6 was all about Samsung Pay. Only one out of 6 of his OP discussion observations (#5) was concerning the "always on" or "doze" features. Are you sure I have the wrong thread?
5 out of 6 of his observations have nothing to do with the title... Shall you tell him the same? Lol Sheesh...
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whoops lol i only read the part about doze. my bad!
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check this out. gsam says my phone hasn't gone into doze at all the past few hours.
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Is the phone in your pocket? I read doze only kicks in once the phone is completely stationary.
nah it was sitting on my desk. weird. I've made another thread so as to not derail this one from op.
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Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe ZS570KL..Anyone?

anyone using this Deluxe version? Any review comments? planning to get it soon.
I've been looking into this ever since I returned my Note 7 v2. It needs to be released quicker and I'm looking at the QC 821 version
Yep, pre-ordered the 5.7 64gb version. Hope it's not crap. Getting tired of returning phones.
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Yep, pre-ordered the 5.7 64gb version. Hope it's not crap. Getting tired of returning phones.
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Where did you pre-order from?
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Where did you pre-order from?
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Directly from ASUS website. They had the earliest ship date (10/26) vs Amazon, Newegg, or B&H.
http://store.asus.com/us/item/201610AM050000051
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Directly from ASUS website. They had the earliest ship date (10/26) vs Amazon, Newegg, or B&H.
http://store.asus.com/us/item/201610AM050000051
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Gotcha, I'm having a hard time deciding on SD 820 or 821. Not sure if I want to spend an extra $$$ for a little speed bump & 256GB storage (is pretty tempting though) but not worth 300+ its asking compared to the 820 version.
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Gotcha, I'm having a hard time deciding on SD 820 or 821. Not sure if I want to spend an extra $$$ for a little speed bump & 256GB storage (is pretty tempting though) but not worth 300+ its asking compared to the 820 version.
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It certainly would be nice to have that much fast internal storage; but since I'm specifically trying to avoid $800 phones, it would probably be counter productive in my quest. I've actually found I'm pretty good with 64GB and not even using expandable storage with my phones. Still have room for apps, games, and some locally stored music/videos. I use the 2nd SIM slot with my data happy T-Mobile SIM card and just stream whatever isn't stored locally. Keeping the AT&T SIM for everything else.
But once I realized I don't need to keep 2,000 hours of music/videos with me at all times, it worked out pretty well. That's what the tablet is for.
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It certainly would be nice to have that much fast internal storage; but since I'm specifically trying to avoid $800 phones, it would probably be counter productive in my quest. I've actually found I'm pretty good with 64GB and not even using expandable storage with my phones. Still have room for apps, games, and some locally stored music/videos. I use the 2nd SIM slot with my data happy T-Mobile SIM card and just stream whatever isn't stored locally. Keeping the AT&T SIM for everything else.
But once I realized I don't need to keep 2,000 hours of music/videos with me at all times, it worked out pretty well. That's what the tablet is for.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of doing since I got plenty of time to make up my mind.
I am using the 6/64 version for over a month (got it Sep/2) and everything just speedy and smooth. It seems Asus does get the multitasking right with the help of 6G RAM. Everything is just snappy and responsive even with tones of background App running!
Asus has also built in functions like Greenify which prevents apps from auto loading in the background (However, in contrast to Greenify, once the App is load, it will not stop it like Greenify does.) Anyway with 6G RAM, it's really no need to remove app from memory due to memory management's point of view. However the prevention of auto start sure saves battery as well as unwanted background data hug, once the app is terminated.
The camera is decent enough and take good photos even at low light. 4G signal strength is on par with all my other phones but handles spotty receptions better (for instance, when in a moving train full of people, the phone handles the switching of base pretty good with virtually no disconnection on voice call. Basically everyone's phone in the train is switching at almost the same time.)
As for internal memory, you could always insert a 128G SD card into the 2nd SIM slot. Officially 2nd SIM and SD card cannot co-exist (they share physical space), but there is a hack you could do to make them co-exist. The phone does handle 2 SIM+SD without any issue. I don't think it's necessary to go to the SD821 version with all those extra $. The speed up will be felt only marginally, with everything app already starts almost instantly on SD820.
QC3.0 charge means when you are low on juice (SD820 is a power hug), you can get it going in very short time (QC3.0, 18W, currently working with only ASUS' stock charger. Other chargers will work only upto QC2.0 speed, due to apparently safety reason) The phone never feels warm with regular heavy using (I don't do gaming, though) but do get pretty warm during 18W charging.
With the N7 drama, to be on the safe side, I always charge my phone with a 5V1A charger when I sleep. In this scenario, it will take about 3.5h to reach full charge from 0%. The phone does not feel warm at all when charging in this way. (room temperature is around 25~30dC)
Conclusion: No big let down on this phone as of yet. (except no root method is available yet). The only major issue I am aware of is the lack of availability. So go grab one if you can!
p.s. In case you are curious, I live in Taiwan and this phone cost me only USD$50 with a 30 months contract, no sim lock.
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I am using the 6/64 version for over a month (got it Sep/2) and everything just speedy and smooth. It seems Asus does get the multitasking right with the help of 6G RAM. Everything is just snappy and responsive even with tones of background App running!
Asus has also built in functions like Greenify which prevents apps from auto loading in the background (However, in contrast to Greenify, once the App is load, it will not stop it like Greenify does.) Anyway with 6G RAM, it's really no need to remove app from memory due to memory management's point of view. However the prevention of auto start sure saves battery as well as unwanted background data hug, once the app is terminated.
The camera is decent enough and take good photos even at low light. 4G signal strength is on par with all my other phones but handles spotty receptions better (for instance, when in a moving train full of people, the phone handles the switching of base pretty good with virtually no disconnection on voice call. Basically everyone's phone in the train is switching at almost the same time.)
As for internal memory, you could always insert a 128G SD card into the 2nd SIM slot. Officially 2nd SIM and SD card cannot co-exist (they share physical space), but there is a hack you could do to make them co-exist. The phone does handle 2 SIM+SD without any issue. I don't think it's necessary to go to the SD821 version with all those extra $. The speed up will be felt only marginally, with everything app already starts almost instantly on SD820.
QC3.0 charge means when you are low on juice (SD820 is a power hug), you can get it going in very short time (QC3.0, 18W, currently working with only ASUS' stock charger. Other chargers will work only upto QC2.0 speed, due to apparently safety reason) The phone never feels warm with regular heavy using (I don't do gaming, though) but do get pretty warm during 18W charging.
With the N7 drama, to be on the safe side, I always charge my phone with a 5V1A charger when I sleep. In this scenario, it will take about 3.5h to reach full charge from 0%. The phone does not feel warm at all when charging in this way. (room temperature is around 25~30dC)
Conclusion: No big let down on this phone as of yet. (except no root method is available yet). The only major issue I am aware of is the lack of availability. So go grab one if you can!
p.s. In case you are curious, I live in Taiwan and this phone cost me only USD$50 with a 30 months contract, no sim lock.
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thanks for your mini review. Unless something better comes out, I'm going to go with Asus 3 Deluxe.
I'm actually debating getting the 5.5" Snap Dragon 625 version at $399. Might be a nice step up from my HTC One A9 (SD 617).
One thing that bugs though is the unbalanced black bezel around the screen that the Deluxe versions have. The regular Zenfone 3 isn't like that.
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I'm actually debating getting the 5.5" Snap Dragon 625 version at $399. Might be a nice step up from my HTC One A9 (SD 617).
One thing that bugs though is the unbalanced black bezel around the screen that the Deluxe versions have. The regular Zenfone 3 isn't like that.
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I don't have experience with SD625 models but unless budget is your concern, I'd recommend to go to SD820 since you got fewer compromise.
Like the old saying, "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", thus for me the "unbalanced" bezel actually looks better since I use phone in portrait orientation almost 95% of time and larger lower bezel actually looks more "Stable" for me.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/12/this-is-the-huawei-mate-9-in-standard-and-curved-screen-designs/
Huawei Mate 9 is very tempting also at 5.9" but not so sure about the SoC since I'm so use to SD and Exynos. I like the bezel w/o the home button and non-curved screen.

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