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HTC One announced in China. Gets dual SIM, micro-SD, removable back-cover BUT

HTC One announced in China. Gets dual SIM, micro-SD, removable back-cover, but no removable battery
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Wow even when htc include a removable back cover, they make it so that you can't remove the battery :/ they must reallly hate taking out batteries or something. For some people, if this had removable battery, this wouldve been what the htc one should've been.
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yvibes said:
Wow even when htc include a removable back cover, they make it so that you can't remove the battery :/ they must reallly hate taking out batteries or something. For some people, if this had removable battery, this wouldve been what the htc one should've been.
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it wouldnt be the one that should have been
the battery is located behind the pcb, so its sandwished in the middle, impossible to remove, you will a lot of sturdiness and introduce creaks with an open-able shell
the antenna plastic gaps on the back are not gapless in the Chinese model you can they extrude

hamdir said:
it wouldnt be the one that should have been
the battery is located behind the pcb, so its sandwished in the middle, impossible to remove, you will a lot of sturdiness and introduce creaks with an open-able shell
the antenna plastic gaps on the back are not gapless in the Chinese model you can they extrude
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Yh I had a hint that these problems would arise, but I meant if they actually implemented a removable battery, for some, this may have made it their ideal phone. Obviously how the phone is now is the only way htc could achieve this supreme build quality
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yvibes said:
Yh I had a hint that these problems would arise, but I meant if they actually implemented a removable battery, for some, this may have made it their ideal phone. Obviously how the phone is now is the only way htc could achieve this supreme build quality
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I have these question for LONG! really i don't think its impossible to have removable bat. and SD card and keep the ONE looks(giving up the unibody for sure). That's one of the reasons I dislike Peter Chow.

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HTC One announced in China. Gets dual SIM, micro-SD, removable back-cover, but no removable battery
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Another good reason to wait a while and not order the initial release. This is a step in the right direction to a smarter design.

people really need to stop with this removable battery non sense. its overrated. plus they have external packs that solve this problem. i use one and works very well. 2 i dont like the idea of removing the back every day to swap battery and wear out the cover. 2 sd card slots are becoming a non issue as capacity gets higher. 64 gb one i have. who needs more than that? if you do get a pc. you have issues LOL

daddioj said:
people really need to stop with this removable battery non sense. its overrated. plus they have external packs that solve this problem. i use one and works very well. 2 i dont like the idea of removing the back every day to swap battery and wear out the cover. 2 sd card slots are becoming a non issue as capacity gets higher. 64 gb one i have. who needs more than that? if you do get a pc. you have issues LOL
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Really couldn't agree more. On my Gnex SII note and SIII I had extra batteries and would remove the back covers within a month I had to purchase new back covers as they started to wear out not snapping into place securely. If you need a removable battery and SD go get a S4 or note 2 but as we all know that phone feels cheap. The plastic creaks this is because they have a removable battery. I'll admit I want my cake and eat it to but no one has made that design and when you look most solid feeling premium devices have internal batteries.

this means the battery may be removable, else why would HTC put in the screws
probably just remove the screws and can get to the internals?
it looks like the standard HTC lay out, used toown the HTC HD7 windows phone , just need a torx screwdriver to remove them and u can get to the internals eaily

A dual SIM is a really neat feature for people who travel a lot, and more importantly those who has separate business phones. Great to see this as an option to some.

Anyone knows how much it'll cost for a CDMA2000 n GSM version? I hope the Indonesian market gets the dual sim version as well.

Looks like this loses the all-metal design, are the antennas still metal?

Is this genuine? The reason that I ask is that the one doesn't have toggles in the notification area but this Chinese one does?

Guys, having been doing business in China for 15 years, I will never use a Chinese version of any Android device even if it was free. First major problem is they strip every ounce of google from the device (and getting it back on is not easy). Blinkfeed will only source Chinese links no matter what custom Rom you are on. That's good if you read mandarin, but if not that function is pointless. There are many other changes that are just straight annoying and development for these devices will be very small due to changes that require developers to maintain multiple roms for different variants. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter because I've had Chinese variants before and they are awful if you've ever used International/Euro/US versions of the same device.

jlevy73 said:
Guys, having been doing business in China for 15 years, I will never use a Chinese version of any Android device even if it was free. First major problem is they strip every ounce of google from the device (and getting it back on is not easy). Blinkfeed will only source Chinese links no matter what custom Rom you are on. That's good if you read mandarin, but if not that function is pointless. There are many other changes that are just straight annoying and development for these devices will be very small due to changes that require developers to maintain multiple roms for different variants. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter because I've had Chinese variants before and they are awful if you've ever used International/Euro/US versions of the same device.
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I'll back this up.
My girlfriend had the no google store issue on her old Note, and now I'm using my friend's Anycall Galaxy S (korean, but popular in china) until my One arrives.. this phone is a nightmare considering it isn't the international version.
Hope these chinese versions don't have these types of problems.

Don't think I'll mind though. I'll probably have nova launcher installed. Wont be needing blinkfeed. And for the other apps I need, I'd probably get them installed manually from .apk files. Unless they also disable this function then it's really gonna be bad.
I only need the dual sim functionality for CDMA2000 and GSM network. Gonna use it mostly for voice calling, camera function, and abit of browsing.
It's not operator locked I hope.
jlevy73 said:
Guys, having been doing business in China for 15 years, I will never use a Chinese version of any Android device even if it was free. First major problem is they strip every ounce of google from the device (and getting it back on is not easy). Blinkfeed will only source Chinese links no matter what custom Rom you are on. That's good if you read mandarin, but if not that function is pointless. There are many other changes that are just straight annoying and development for these devices will be very small due to changes that require developers to maintain multiple roms for different variants. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter because I've had Chinese variants before and they are awful if you've ever used International/Euro/US versions of the same device.
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redder95 said:
Don't think I'll mind though. I'll probably have nova launcher installed. Wont be needing blinkfeed. And for the other apps I need, I'd probably get them installed manually from .apk files. Unless they also disable this function then it's really gonna be bad.
I only need the dual sim functionality for CDMA2000 and GSM network. Gonna use it mostly for voice calling, camera function, and abit of browsing.
It's not operator locked I hope.
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They disable the ability to sideload any google apps. There are ways around it but like I said, it's not easy.

People...you are missing the whole point of why people want to change the battery! So please stop suggesting its a non-issue.
Phone contracts these days are typically 2 years. If you are charging your phone everyday, the battery starts to diminish noticeably after about 1 year, with it becoming problematic often somewhere before 2 years. I wouldn't want to open it to change it all the time....but the battery is totally non-replaceable which means it may prove to be problematic to see out the phone contract before getting the next upgrade!

jonstatt said:
People...you are missing the whole point of why people want to change the battery! So please stop suggesting its a non-issue.
Phone contracts these days are typically 2 years. If you are charging your phone everyday, the battery starts to diminish noticeably after about 1 year, with it becoming problematic often somewhere before 2 years. I wouldn't want to open it to change it all the time....but the battery is totally non-replaceable which means it may prove to be problematic to see out the phone contract before getting the next upgrade!
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Nobody cares what you think you will need as an individual. A decision has been made for you about what you need as part of the collective, and it is up to you now to conform. You are lucky that you got expandable memory, because it has already been decided that you didn't need that either!! [/communism]

For those who are doubting, yes this is real, check HTC China site (tip, use google site translate for specs)
http://www.htc.com/cn/smartphones/htc-one/#overview
But this version has no 4G/LTE support.
It's really annoying how HTC has become inconsistent with their designs and hardware for one model

I'll Take The Note 4 Over The Samapplesung S6 All Day...

Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?

You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol

Say It Ain't So Toe...
mgbotoe said:
You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol
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In this case.. I pray not Toe..
I'll prepare for the worse...
And hope for the best.

RaiderWill said:
Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will be most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?
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mgbotoe said:
You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol
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Its a damn shame. I'm already looking for an alternative manufacturer. I have big hands so the Note 4 feels normal for me. I need to see if LG or HTC have a good alternative. Its a damn shame. They could have at least kept the Micro SD card.

naruto.ninjakid said:
Its a damn shame. I'm already looking for an alternative manufacturer. I have big hands so the Note 4 feels normal for me. I need to see if LG or HTC have a good alternative. Its a damn shame. They could have at least kept the Micro SD card.
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Good to see you here my friend...
Can you believe I still have my LG G-Pad 8.3...
And I've been running the same Mahdi ROM from 5-20-14...
It was his Greatest Version for the G-Pad.. FLAWLESS not one hiccup in over 9 months !
My Note 4 is not going anywhere for some time to come if this is truly Samsung's new direction.. Keep your Note 4 and run FireKat V10 it's the front runner for KK ROM's IMO and just hold your ground.. The Note 4 does the job just fine.
I just don't like Samsung turning into Samapplesung to silence critics on build quality.. Our Note 4's with a touch of metal still feels much more premium than the Note 3 and we STILL have Battery & SD-Card access.

Anyone interested in Samsung Pay will come to the Note 4? That's about the only thing I would like to see from the S6. Google wallet is cool, but if you can use the magnetic card terminal, Samsung is going to trounce Apple Pay and Google Wallet, at least for now.

RaiderWill said:
Good to see you here my friend...
Can you believe I still have my LG G-Pad 8.3...
And I've been running the same Mahdi ROM from 5-20-14...
It was his Greatest Version for the G-Pad.. FLAWLESS not one hiccup in over 9 months !
My Note 4 is not going anywhere for some time to come if this is truly Samsung's new direction.. Keep your Note 4 and run FireKat V10 it's the front runner for KK ROM's IMO and just hold your ground.. The Note 4 does the job just fine.
I just don't like Samsung turning into Samapplesung to silence critics on build quality.. Our Note 4's with a touch of metal still feels much more premium than the Note 3 and we STILL have Battery & SD-Card access.
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Yeah I'm going to stick with this till the note 6 at least.

I thought they were completely changing the look and feel of touchwiz. It looks pretty much the same. Thats utter garbage,
And samsung had been overhyping the idea of completely re-designing the phone.. to make it look like the iphone 6? I mean seriously? I get the iphone 6 has a beautiful design and I love it too, but out of a million possibilities for designing your phone you chose to copy apple. Thats ridiculous.
On an ending note, I really like my Note 4, the first thing i did was replace touchwiz, but apart from that I really like the device. Unfortunately it looks like it will be one of the last samsung phones I own. Whats even worse is that we are running out of decent alternatives and android on a whole looks to be having a ****ty year in the high end phones market segment.

RaiderWill said:
Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will be most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?
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You know its almost like SanDisk is trolling HTC and Samsung at this point:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/01/sandisk-200gb-microsd-card/

rosedog said:
You know its almost like SanDisk is trolling HTC and Samsung at this point:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/01/sandisk-200gb-microsd-card/
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$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =

RaiderWill said:
$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =
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Right now, sure but I don't like swapping cards if I don't have too and this won't be the price forever. The 128gb card came down pretty fast in price iirc. This is also great for tablets and the Surface Pro 3.

Different Strokes...
RaiderWill said:
$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =
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rosedog said:
Right now, sure but I don't like swapping cards
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My station in life ill affords me the means to spend upper-middle class cell phone money on just an SD-Card..
So.. from my perspective, even if it came down $100.00 to $300.00.. I would not pull the trigger when I can swap 128's out in what? 60 seconds ?
And heaven forbid *failure* and loss of data by engendering that much trust in one card..
But if it works for you.. your ship has arrived.. :good:

While this phone is average at best, it's probably going to do worst than the S5. Samsung will realize their mistake and bring back the sd slot and removable battery by the time the note 5 comes out. The only reason this phone would be appealing is, IF the new touchwiz was as smooth stock android or htc skin. The only thing samsung had over other android oems was the removable back and sd slot.
It would be stupid for LG to not use this opportunity to destroy the S6 with their G4.

raza89 said:
I thought they were completely changing the look and feel of touchwiz. It looks pretty much the same. Thats utter garbage,
And samsung had been overhyping the idea of completely re-designing the phone.. to make it look like the iphone 6? I mean seriously? I get the iphone 6 has a beautiful design and I love it too, but out of a million possibilities for designing your phone you chose to copy apple. Thats ridiculous.
On an ending note, I really like my Note 4, the first thing i did was replace touchwiz, but apart from that I really like the device. Unfortunately it looks like it will be one of the last samsung phones I own. Whats even worse is that we are running out of decent alternatives and android on a whole looks to be having a ****ty year in the high end phones market segment.
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At this point I’m wondering what’s going on. I wanted Samsung to increase the size of the Note 4 but they didn’t. I can accept that though. But no SD card and removable battery is a deal breaker. The S series always forebodes what will come to the note. I’m not sure why no other manufacturers are going head o head with Samsung. HTC looked like they were with the one max but no one max 2. Hopefully they pull what they did with the S5 waterproof and say again the note targets certain individuals and add the removable battery and SD Card or no more Samsung phones for me. Someone also needs to make some S-Pen alternative as well.

Even the HTC M9 has expandable storage. Why Samsung why??????
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Samsung must be listening to the WRONG customer polls, no one that buys Samsung devices cares that the back is glass, especially if that means they have to lose the removable battery, and the sd card . and everyone uses a darn case anyway
Love the new processor, and I'd imagine the improved memory standard, but none of these improvements are worth losing so many hardware functions :thumbsdown:

I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.

racer83l said:
I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.
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I second that.
Have both S and Note series and been following its upgrades; just becoz of the fact that the S series are released b4 the N series doesn't mean the S models are pilot projects for the N's. They serve for different segments.
Anyways as for the S6, I too am sad for the absence of ext SD card and removable battery cover, but then again maybe (surely) Sammy had done a thorough market research and knows what's best for their interest; xda community's opinion only represents a tiny minority of its users and by no means are used as benchmarks.
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racer83l said:
I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.
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We aren't saying the note 4 is a bigger s5...the thing is when samsung does something to a phone, best believe it will pop up in the next line.
Take the finger scanning and the shealth / exercise thing for example. those were introduced in the S serie and behold behold...they popped up on the note
And take the note edge for example...behold behold...the S line has it. The only difference between them is the size but essentially anything you can find in the S serie is on the note serie.
And if its not visually there, it is disabled in the code (their lil multitasking box they came out with on the s5)
The odds of no removable battery / sd card...is well you know, 90% chance of happening lol. I personally thought that will happen on the Note line first (and the glass) because end of the day, the note IS and will ALWAYS be geared towards business people and not regular consumers. And sammy seems to be on their iPhone classy trip right now. There was nothing wrong with the leather back covers...

Looks like the micro SD got left out of Samsung's phone and made its way to HTC's. Next is gonna be the Note 5 with no S-pen and the excuse that no one uses it (hopefully they don't go that direction). They better bring back micro sd for the Note 5 or I won't upgrade.

Soon to be Turbo owner

What's up everyone? I have a Droid Turbo coming in the mail tomorrow and I'll be switching over from a GS4. I was able to upgrade via an "Early Edge" upgrade (I wasn't on Edge beforehand) and oddly this was the only phone I could upgrade to. I was looking into this phone for a while so I wasn't too upset about it. Have any of you made the jump from the S4 to the Turbo? If so, what are your impressions? I have a feeling I'm going to like it, sans the lack of root and an IR blaster.

Lockett said:
What's up everyone? I have a Droid Turbo coming in the mail tomorrow and I'll be switching over from a GS4. I was able to upgrade via an "Early Edge" upgrade (I wasn't on Edge beforehand) and oddly this was the only phone I could upgrade to. I was looking into this phone for a while so I wasn't too upset about it. Have any of you made the jump from the S4 to the Turbo? If so, what are your impressions? I have a feeling I'm going to like it, sans the lack of root and an IR blaster.
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I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.

civiksi said:
I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.
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I do like root for things like getting rid of bloat and additional tweaks to help with battery. I've got a 3000mAh battery in my S4 and it won't make it through a day. I've had the Razr Maxx back in the day and I could get almost 2 days out of it without breaking a sweat. I've read reviews that said the Turbo only has one antenna in it as compared to 2 or more like most phones. I spend most of my time on wifi so hopefully it doesn't suck too bad. I'm not sure how the Edge program works as far as the 14 day exchange policy. Seeing as how this was the only phone option I was given I'm not sure if they'd let me swap out to something else in case this phone doesn't suit my needs.

I came from the S4 as well. Miss root, but i knew before hand we probably wouldn't get it. It has taken some time to adjust to ads but overall not too upset about not having it.
The phone, i love it. I live in a very rural area and it seems to perform alot better than my s4 with a case on it (in terms of signal strength). I get a good solid day of battery life, im sure that would be extended significantly if i was always in cell range. Overall im pleased with the build quality and the OS. I love the near stock android, probably what drew me to this phone the most.
Sure camera ain't the best, but its a phone after all, good enough.
I think you'll like appreciate the speed, the brighter screen and the long battery life.
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I came from the Note 3, which is the same as the S4 hardware-wise.
I don't regret the decision at all. The size of the Turbo is more comfortable for me. Even bigger battery is a big plus. I don't miss root too much. There are a couple of xposed modules that I miss, but that's it.

I always forget about downloading adaway so I've been dealing with ads since I got this phone lol. I think I'm really going to miss the IR the most though.
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civiksi said:
I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.
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I came from the S4 and but I couldn't deal with the turbo wifi issues so after 23 days I sent my Turbo back. By far it was the best phone I ever owned but the wifi was killing me and a deal breaker. I have unlimited data but some places I visit doesn't have a LTE signal or not available so a constant wifi is a must. Just search the threads the issue is real. Then you mix that with no Root,lollipop and the HTC m9 plus and GS6 are a few weeks away it was a no brainier to send it back before my 30 days was up. If they ever fix the wifi issue and get lollipop it be a solid phone.

came from an S3, also miss root a little, but getting over it, battery life is fantastic (main selling point for me) but everything else about phone is also really nice. Good luck!
I'm glad I went DT, have not looked back one bit.
(It's nice seeing the "new"phones come out and not feeling that upgrade urge and regret).

I have a LG g3 and was thinking about getting a DT,you guys and girls that own one what do you think?I'm not to concerned about root or boot loader unlock just performance..
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I have the MAXX and love it. I thought the size would be to big, as my Moto X always seemed perfect for my hand. But these older eyes love it. What is great is that I never worry about battery any more. I used to worry about using NAV for an hour, now i don't care. I will make through a day no matter what i do.
But if you go for 64GB, the nylon is slippery. I hate cases, and tried some anyway. Finally settled on spraying the back with Plastidip and now the phone is perfect. I plan to respray with some color, and do some nicer masking, but that was the only thing i really hated. I even got used to the seam on the chin that annoyed me.

I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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I mean come on. That's pretty great for a PHONE.
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I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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Those are nice. I take good pics too, but I can never find good things to take pictures of so I can show them off.

7eregrine said:
I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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90% of people who ***** about camera quality are the people who can't hold their ****ing hands still enough to take a decent shot. That, or they're expecting miracles like perfect shots of something moving quickly.

I never complain about camera quality because after all it is just a cell phone. HOWEVER, my girlfriends G3 takes far better pictures than my turbo. It adjusts to light way better as well. Makes me sad.

Should I get this phone or wait until a new Nexus?

So, a bit of a backstory: I am still on an AT&T GS4. It is obviously years old, but still chugs along. More hangups now than earlier, but restarting fixes it. My phone is rooted, but no custom ROMs or anything, because locked boot loaders are great like that.
I use Tasker for enough things, AdAway, ClockSync (because I am anal and like "perfect" time), ES File Explorer, Light Flow, TB, and I do have some Xposed modules. Some of my Tasker profiles use Secure Settings. I really did like custom ROMs on my international GS2, and was pretty bummed that this did not have them. I also simply like having full control over my phone. It's my hardware, I want to use it how I please.
I have not purchased a Nexus 6p because it is mostly just too large for me. The S7E might be the biggest I would be comfortable with. At this point, I am looking for opinions on whether I should wait for a possibly new Nexus phone, or pick up this one. I would likely grab the 935F, and not the AT&T variant. Another thing that scares me is warranty, or lack thereof, since I would be buying it from an ebay seller. I've never had a phone with a manufacturer defect or something worth warrantying, but it would suck to have a dead phone and be out ~$700.
Any thoughts/opinions/similar conundrums?

If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung

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If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung
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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?

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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?
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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery

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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery
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Haha, yeah. I figured that is what you meant. I assume you don't care about root much then?

Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore

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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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Hmm, interesting. Thanks for your input!

No prob best of luck on your decision

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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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This is pretty much where I'm at. I mean, I would probably root if it were an option for adblock without a VPN, but it's not a deal breaker. OEM's have pretty much taken every cool feature that you could only get through a ROM and baked it in their own, so I have no interest in flashing ROM's anymore.

Wait for an unannounced potentially non existent phone (which is rumored to be by HTC), or get a solid option that you can touch, feel, see.
I think it's personal opinion, as far as warranty, you can get square trade warranty I believe it's called. And if it was never registered you could register it via samsung.
Lastly, depends what you want. I want best screen possible and amazing camera. That's s7 edge for me.
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With a theme and a launcher, I'm running like I'm stock. Best of both worlds.
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I am on the same boat. I am currently watching 2 auctions for the nexus 6p. Don't know if I should pull the trigger or not. My current phone is a iPhone 6 but I wanna get back into the android world as my first smartphone was a nexus. The edge looks awesome but my upgrade ain't ready till October.
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I say get the GS7E. I've been running Nexus phones side-by-side with my Galaxy phones since 2013 and the Galaxies are better for everything except timely software updates.
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I picked up the s7 edge about a week ago, the international 935f. I like the size and weight of the phone. I'm not sure if it's the exynos processor, but it's not as smooth as my Nexus 6p. The camera and battery life are better than the Nexus, not by much. I love my Nexus though and will keep it.
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Yeah, I am not sure what to do. I am sure the S7E is a badass phone, but I really want to be able to root it and screw around, if only just because I want the ability to do so.

I went from HTC One m8 (Sense rom, and also used GPE Rom for a while) + user of a Nexus 9, over to the S7 Edge.
Honestly, you can like Stock android as much as you want.. But stuff like Touchwiz (or other versions like sense, LG ui etc) have the one or other really awesome feature, that just simply don't exist on Android.
One of my Favourite features on TouchWiz right now:
Screenshot.
Honestly. After i do a Screenshot of a Screen, that is Scrollable (like Internet browser, Facebook posts, Whatsapp chatlog, etc), theres a "+" beside "share" and "delete". If i press the "+", the screenshot-function automatically scrolls down, and does another screenshot. If press + again, it does it a third time.
And it stitches them Together into a sort of "Panorama" screenshot.
In Whatsapp, you have your status bar at the Top, then 2345634 Kilometers Chatlog, and THEN just at the bottom your Text field. The Chat itself is stitched together jsut perfectly.
And if i say perfectly, i literaly mean Pixel-accuracy stitched Together.
my Whatsapp screens only look strange, because of my Background Wallpaper in Whatsapp, that will be "cut". If it were a one-color background, it would be absolutely Perfect.
Cant praise this feature enough, as someone who takes Screenshots here and there.
Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )

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Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )
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Hmm, interesting. I don't know that it is super important to me to be able to take extremely long screenshots. I only ever take screenshots of the thing I am looking at directly.

True, but sometimes, it's quite handy Like for some conversations, that are 1,5 - 2 screens deep
But that's just one of many...
There is an option, to reset all Settings back, without having to do "Factory Reset" (which will delete all your data). That was handy for me once, while stock android doesnt have that.
The Camera App from Touchwiz is pretty good, and the Pro mode is nice (you can save pictures as RAW while in PRO Mode, or turn the shutter speed up to whole 10 Seconds which is useable because of the very good OIS).
Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)

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Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)
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I've never even used pure, stock Android before. Never had a Nexus. I don't have an issue with Touchwiz either, as I would already use Apex/Nova as my launcher anyway. The phone/software itself is great, I am positive. My issue is the locked down environment of it. I want to be able to tinker, and Samsung does not want that.

In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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I certainly do like the idea, and would have purchased a 6p when it came out, but it is just too damned big for my hands, unfortunately. I essentially have to decide if I want to wait until November or not.

Moving from the Edge to the LG G5

I'm considering getting the G5 instead of the S7 for two reasons.
First, a little back story. I've had the S7 since the day it came out. I was fortunate enough to be eligible for an upgrade after having lost my LG G3 in a snowfield while doing some back country snowboarding. The G3's performance was great for me, plus I had an 8500mah battery on it, which allowed me to go days without a recharge. The drawback was that it was monolithic in bulk.
I often go out into the back country to snowboard; battery life is key. With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
Secondly, and slightly related to my first point, is root. Without root on the S7 Verizon version, I'm unable to pare down bloatware, use Greenify, and switch ROMs to something more suitable or preferable than the factory options. Rooting a phone has the benefit, in my experience, of extending battery life simply by limiting what's running at any given time.
The one thing that's got me on the fence is the waterproof/dustproof feature of the S7 line. I may actually be able to find my old G3 this summer when I hike the area where I lost it. It's unlikely, but possible. The benefit being that I can recover my memory card... I am not disillusioned enough to think that it'll actually function after being saturated by springtime snow melt, and long term frozen conditions. (Man, that'd be a great testament to the LG hardware if it did, no?)
Anyway, I am willing to listen to any counter arguments to my decision before I go through with this. I'm meeting a guy at the VZW store this afternoon. He's going to inspect my phone, then buy a G5 for me right then and there if it's acceptable. It should be, given that it's been in a case and had a screen protector on it since day one.

Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.

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The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.
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The aesthetics of the G5 do not bother me. I'm a functionality over form sort of person, as I inferred above by mentioning my massive 8500mah battery and my requirement for long periods away from civilization. I do agree that the Samsung hardware is better manufactured, and the form is far more appealing, but if it doesn't meet my core needs, I'm going to be unhappy.
That being said, I hadn't considered the HTC 10 as an option. I will read up on it and see whether it will suit my needs. Thanks for mentioning it.
One thing about brightness, even on the lowest brightness, the S7 is annoyingly luminescent at night. When I wake up and want to check my phone, it doesn't dim low enough for me.

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Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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Useless reply.

markwebb said:
Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.

sangandongo said:
Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.
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Haha. You're welcome.
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1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say

peachpuff said:
1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say
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1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.

sangandongo said:
1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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Use your phone as a battery bank, jesus. Do some research.
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Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
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That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.

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Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.
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Thanks. I backed out of the trade. Incidentally, I did the Porsche to Toyota "downgrade." .
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sangandongo said:
1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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That's what i meant a physical battery bank, 20k mah in size should charge the phone 5 times or so compared to carrying an extra battery. If you can carry extra batteries then you can carry a large battery bank, kinda defeats the purpose of "i must have removable batteries" imo.

Exxxynos version can be bought in Canada unlocked is rootable
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You would be so foolish not to get HTC 10 over g5

We all get to choose the phone that best meets our individual needs. If a replaceable battery is critical for the OP, that makes the G5 his only choice among top end phones. Personally, I'm not impressed by the G5, but that's me.
But for the specific concerns listed. The US S7e will probably never be rooted, so if that's truly critical get something else. I'm not sure the 5 is the answer for that, either, though.
As far as battery goes, while I think that phones should, in general, have a replaceable battery, an external battery pack is a viable substitute, especially if you don't need it all the time. There are even wireless ones that power the phone through the Qi coil.

Good luck with the lego phone, bye. This thread never happened and i never replied.

You better go with LG G4 instead of LG G5 if you insist on LG hehe.
But really, nothing can beat Galaxy S7 Edge, including HTC 10:
1. Best Display on planet.
2. Waterproofing
3. Awesome Battery life
4. Super-sexy phone.
5. The best smartphone camera with the fastest focus on smartphones.
6. If you need more just ask...

Was looking to give my edge back for the G5... after playing with the g5 so glad am sticking with my baby. Great battery life waterproof and brilliant design and most of all the phone is sexy like me... and the g5 battery not that great.
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