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LONG LIVE THE NEXUS ONE!!!
Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
I am glad I am with tmobile is tbis phone going to be the one they gave out to developers with security off or will it be like the retail version
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Engadget said that the bootloader isn't unlocked, and that fastboot is disabled (!). What does that mean in effect, I have no idea.
EarthsiegeTA said:
Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
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I bought an AT&T version before they stopped selling them, and on the slip that came with it it says
GSM 3G 850/1900/2100MHz
If i'm not mistaken, what is "the 3 UMTS Bands 900/AWS/2100" mean.
Does this phone not cover all bands? It's quoted to be carried independant.
There are two different nexus ones out there. Each one is compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile voice and data frequencies. BUT, if you get the T-Mobile banded model, then when you put an AT&T sim card in it you will only get Edge speed internet. The difference between the two is 3g connectivity. The really ****ty and annoying thing is the chip that is in the phone is supposedly capable of all GSM frequencies and all 3g frequencies but the phone is missing the correct ancillary chip to activate them all. So they made two different ones. I would bet that the American carriers weren't hap py about having a phone that could be taken from one provider to another and put their foot down. Just my theory though.
SE messed up and left out the aws band for the Xperia pro and i believe some of the other models of their new lineup. I'm posting here because there is no seperate forum for xperia pro but the question pertains to any of the xperia's.
Does anyone know if there is any way to manually install AWS 1700/2100. For example can you take another Tmobile usa phone like the G1 or something and take it apart and find a chip or part and than try to hook it up to the Xperia Pro. I am so desperate. These phone manufactures leave us no choice. lets face it, Tmobile or the usa carriers for that matter will never get a front facing camera with a physical qwerty phone running android on a world class processor supporting new technologies. That would be too much to ask and everyone would buy it and their network would be bogged down and they wouldnt be ready for this kinda of business. Do they even want to make money? or are they just trying to control us. who doesnt want a physical qwerty? Anyways please help out. AWS band 1700/2100. suggestions...
Well, move to Europe for instance might help I don't get why USA have different band than the rest of the civilised world? I was in the USA in autumn and that was the only downside of the great holiday....
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PollPixx said:
Well, move to Europe for instance might help I don't get why USA have different band than the rest of the civilised world? I was in the USA in autumn and that was the only downside of the great holiday....
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very good point. i have acutally thought about doing this.
You'll enjoy Europe In the US only AT&T has a 'normal' band, and the market for operators on 1700 etc is just too small for Sony Ericsson to create a new phone with another chipset... Even Apple waited years before they released a CDMA iPhone...
there's already a thread on this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945017
The phones not even been released yet and we're getting duplicate threads.
Just a suggestion, before leaving a store with your new shiny Note 10.1, check it for potential defects. Dial *#0*#. I just found one dead pixel on mine.
neilgoco said:
Just a suggestion, before leaving a store with your new shiny Note 10.1, check it for potential defects. Dial *#0*#. I just found one dead pixel on mine.
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Where is dialer on note ??
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He has a Note 10.1 with 3G which is only available in Europe at the moment (because their cell phone system isn't as screwed up as the ones here in North America).
Those can be used as phones and so have the Phone app included.
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He has a Note 10.1 with 3G which is only available in Europe at the moment (because their cell phone system isn't as screwed up as the ones here in North America).
Those can be used as phones and so have the Phone app included.
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Same here in malaysia, we have 10.1 3G and our cell phone system isnt screw up because it was controlled by our goverment here. So we must appreciate their effort n thx to our gov (pls, no politian here..lol)
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naimmkassim said:
Same here in malaysia, we have 10.1 3G and our cell phone system isnt screw up because it was controlled by our goverment here. So we must appreciate their effort n thx to our gov (pls, no politian here..lol)
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Sorry, when I posted that, I hadn't heard that the Note 10.1 3G had been released more widely than Europe. I gather it's in almost every country OTHER than Canada and the US now...
The problem over here is that each carrier has their own set of frequencies or cell technologies. LIke here in Canada, there are three major cellcos and one major international carrier:
Rogers/Fido which is GSM + 3G on 1900/850 MHz
Bell which is TDMA + 3G on 1900/850 MHz
Telus which is CDMA + 3G on 1900/850 MHz
Wind which is 3G ONLY on AWS 1700 MHz
Almost no one will buy a high end smartphone unlocked because it ends up $550 to $950. They want to buy on contract. But if they buy on contract, then the carriers want it locked to their network and usually want it to be branded. Because we have three voice technologies and two different sets of 3G frequencies - cell makers have to make all sorts of variants for their phones to work on all networks so you have to buy the right one - and it's just a pain to get it right - so again, less interest in unlocked phones.
This means it takes longer for these 'phablets' and even cellphones in general to get to North America - and they often end up on just one carrier as an exclusive.
Now - over to ... well, most of the rest of the world.
They use GSM + 3G on 2100MHz
They do use different GSM frequencies (there are five commonly used ones, 850, 900, 1700, 1800, 1900) but most quad band phones cover the four main ones (all but 1700) and pentaband phones like the Galaxy Nexus do all five.
So a cell manufacturer can make ONE model and captures almost all the world - except for North America. That means they can reduce the prices. And, since your one phone works everywhere - it actually makes sense to get an unlocked one since you're more likely to travel and so want to use multiple SIMs. That's so common in Asia (as I'm sure you know) that they make multi-SIM phones for that market.
I had one dead pixel, in the address bar on the browser. Took it back and swapped it for a new one. Perfect, no dead pixels anymore.
can you post screenshot of LCD TEST app and its descriptions/functions?
thanks
P.S: BTW, you can also use *#7353# to invoke another quick test menu
Google seems to not care about rest of the world with their devices, only the USA I guess.
I got myself a Nexus 7 2013 4G LTE from the USA to use here in Egypt and I've read numerous posts about it not supporting normal GSM phone calls with a lousy reason that it is a tablet not a phone. YEAH SURE, then why Samsung, Asus (own devices) and many others offer the functionality ?!
Anyways I said ok, I will use it only for Internet Data the realized even that is a pain to do.
Here in Egypt we use pre-paid SIM cards and that requires USSD functionality which Nexus 7 4G LTE lacks so every time I need to renew or charge my Data plan, I have to take the Nexus 7 out of the case, pop out the SIM card, pop it in my iPhone, renew/recharge, pop it out of phone and back into the Nexus 7. How convenient! .
Any way to fix that ?
I don't know about Egypt, but here in Australia, just about all PrePaid services can be recharged online. Instead of taking the SIM out, why not just use the one already in your iPhone, and recharge using the iPhone's browser?
r9800pro said:
Google seems to not care about rest of the world with their devices, only the USA I guess.
I got myself a Nexus 7 2013 4G LTE from the USA to use here in Egypt and I've read numerous posts about it not supporting normal GSM phone calls with a lousy reason that it is a tablet not a phone. YEAH SURE, then why Samsung, Asus (own devices) and many others offer the functionality ?!
Anyways I said ok, I will use it only for Internet Data the realized even that is a pain to do.
Here in Egypt we use pre-paid SIM cards and that requires USSD functionality which Nexus 7 4G LTE lacks so every time I need to renew or charge my Data plan, I have to take the Nexus 7 out of the case, pop out the SIM card, pop it in my iPhone, renew/recharge, pop it out of phone and back into the Nexus 7. How convenient! .
Any way to fix that ?
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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Actually, all variants of the Nexus sold on the Australian Play Store as well as through various retailers. It's not a US exclusive.
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I don't know about Egypt, but here in Australia, just about all PrePaid services can be recharged online. Instead of taking the SIM out, why not just use the one already in your iPhone, and recharge using the iPhone's browser?
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I tried charging online but for some reason when the SIM is in the Nexus 7, it won't work so I have to put the SIM in my iPhone first for either online or USSD charging. I think it has something to do with some network requests that is blocked or can't function on the Nexus 7
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1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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1-As I mentioned, I am ok with it not having a phone functionality but at least they should've made it fully functional with mobile data
2-Actually I've also tried Nexus 7 LTE EU model (from the UK) and it has the exact same issue and the only difference is 4G LTE frequencies that are a little bit different but it is not a problem because we still don't have 4G LTE coverage here and H+ is fast enough for me.
Many people complain about the same thing in Google forums but no official response yet
sola fide said:
1. It's a tablet....not a phablet. It's not meant to be a phone intentionally. Other devices are... Because they intentionally make them that way.
2. It's sold as a USA device. This has nothing to do with Google not caring about anyone outside the USA. The model doesn't currently have all the support for international use. That's why it's currently only sold in the USA.
Yes it does stink. But I believe Google made it clear the limitations I would have outside the USA. Maybe an update will be released that will add some functionality that will help your situation.
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I'm going to challenge (1).
The fact is that the chip they use for mobile data IS a full phone chip. You can use it for voice calls or data. Similarly, it can support up to 7 bands in LTE and HSPA+. So this isn't a choice not to include - it's a choice to BLOCK a feature. This is the same with SMS. Worse, the LTE bands for Canada are 4 and 7 but we don't get the EU model - which supports those - we get the US model which only supports 4. Worse, the US model only uses 6 of the 7 bands. They *could* have include 4 & 7 on the US model, but didn't. So Canada kind of got the worst of both worlds.
If Google simply didn't include a phone app and left it up to you to find one, I'd be ok with this. Like you say - it's a tablet and Goog wasn't marketing it AS a phone, so no foul. But they went further and not only removed the API in the OS to support phone service, they blocked the chip. That's going somewhat farther than 'we didn't intend for this to be used to as a phone' to 'we're not going let you use this as a phone in any way, ever.' they actually had to put in EFFORT to prevent you from using it as a phone.
Something similar happened with SMS. In 4.3, you can use SMS, it's just poorly supported. They chose not to include the Messaging app and only put in minimal SMS receiving software. Kind of stupid because a lot of PAYG services let you top up using a text message. Still, as we found out - if you get the Messaging app from the Nexus 5, bingo - you get send and receive SMS.
But in 4.4 - they actually *removed* API to make this trick not work. That's not a casual thing. It's intentional.
It's one thing not to put in a feature that's not required when it takes effort to *add* it - it's quite a different thing to *block* a feature that would be there if you did nothing.
The whole idea of the Nexus line was 'pure Android'. These are supposed to be the 'hero' models that show what you CAN do with pure Android and let developers do what they want. Yet clearly, Google is intentionally blocking certain functions that would be there otherwise.
And some of us (myself included) think that kinda sucks.
As a non-American, I'm also going to challenge (2) just a bit...
Google makes money from everyone... not just Americans. They intentionally sell their products around the world and collect data from non-Americans to use to generate revenue. Europe alone has almost 500M people - more than the US. China and India together is almost 1.5B people. Those are rather large markets.
Yet consistently, Google suffers from the same 'country blindness' that other US companies have. If you're going to sell a product outside the US, you have to be aware of, and take into consideration the differences. What makes this ironic is that OUTSIDE the US, there's a lot of standardisation. For example, all of Europe uses GSM and has 2100MHz as their primary HSPA+ frequency. This means phones work everywhere. They use DVB-T for digital TV everywhere. The US (and sadly, Canada since we get dragged along for the ride) insists on using different tech. So the biggest carrier uses the antiquated CDMA system and other carriers use the incompatible TDMA system in order to prevent customers moving between carriers. You use ATSC for digital TV which almost no one else uses.
Google Glass is US only. So is Wallet. And Voice. What makes Wallet so odd is that the US is actually way behind the curve with chip and pin and NFC based payment systems. If they actually skipped the US and focused on Europe and Canada, they'd get further faster and might even help encourage US retailers to accept the technology. What makes Voice so odd is that other US companies that don't have their heads up their.. ahems... can provide World-Wide VoIP at nearly free cost NOW. I use MagicJack on my Android tablet (you know - to make phone calls that you're not supposed to do because it's not a phone), yet while my American friends can call ME for free - I can't call them (well not using Google Voice anyway).
Are there alternative? Yep. But that doesn't justify or rationalise away Google's bizarre choices. That's like suggesting that it's ok that the main bridge in your city collapsed because there's another bridge on the west side of the city.
Good news.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-z3-heading-canada-starting-october-31
Sony has today announced plans to launch the Xperia Z3 in Canada on October 31, with support from Bell, MTS, Rogers, SaskTel, TELUS and WIND Mobile. Should folk wish to purchase the new flagship smartphone without heading down to their local carrier store, Sony stores will also be stocking the same device for purchase on launch day.
No word on how much it will cost just yet, but you can expect to see the device appropriately priced. Purchasers will have the choice of white, black or copper variants.
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Indeed. I was waiting on the Z2 for some time, now it will be just easier to get this from my preferred carrier.
any idea what model we'll be seeing in canada? Looking for a D6633 for the dual sim functionality.
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any idea what model we'll be seeing in canada? Looking for a D6633 for the dual sim functionality.
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I would be very surprised if any manufacturer introduced dual SIM model in North America officially. Financially it does not make a sense in USA because technological incompatibility between most providers there. Telcos in Canada behave very "monopolistic" and are way too powerful here. Not like Europe, there is a much more competition going on there and customer wins.
Just get a dual SIM from 3rd party re-seller. I bought one of eBay and I am satisfied. Sony appears to be the only OEM that actually makes high-end phones that operates on all frequencies used in Canada.
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any idea what model we'll be seeing in canada? Looking for a D6633 for the dual sim functionality.
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czguy said:
I would be very surprised if any manufacturer introduced dual SIM model in North America officially. Financially it does not make a sense in USA because technological incompatibility between most providers there. Telcos in Canada behave very "monopolistic" and are way too powerful here. Not like Europe, there is a much more competition going on there and customer wins.
Just get a dual SIM from 3rd party re-seller. I bought one of eBay and I am satisfied. Sony appears to be the only OEM that actually makes high-end phones that operates on all frequencies used in Canada.
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Nope, most likely not. Looking at XperiFirm, there is no Customized US firmware in the list.
I gotten my D6633 from eBay too. and currently use it with Fido and AT&T with the two SIMs and only switching between one at a time.