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I've read all post in this board.
but i can't quite understand if lag is really there, if it shows only in certain phone(say carrier,geographical area etcetc) or whatever...
reading random post here and here doesn't give precise informations about this aspect of the hero's user experience.
So i'll make a poll. 4 options of lag-tollerability.
if you vote for the poll, reply describing details of the phone, and a precise description of the lag(where, when, app open...)
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I'm italian so sorry for my dodgy english.
I'm going to refrain from voting until I have a better idea of what precisely people mean by lag.
The only slightly slow thing on my G2 has been the messages - sometimes there has been a bit of a delay opening the list of messages, threads etc.
Today, I waited for all of about..........four whole seconds.
I can live with that.
None of the phone's other functions have any appreciable delay or sluggishness.
It's worth noting, however, that I don't use the Farcebook or Twatter widgits, so I don't know if they cause any lag on other poster's phones.
Compare this to my Vario III/Kaiser which seized up on regular occasions.
And if you had the temerity to hit the 'back' button whilst using PIE, well, it was sometimes quicker to do a soft reset than wait for it to get its arse into gear.
That's the feedback i was looking for.
in my opinion you are in the second option of the pool.
Because it's normal that some application need loading time, and that's not lag nor abnormal..
I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
I have a couple of complaints about this device but lag isn't one of them.
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I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
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I experience the same thing, I've had doubts on buying the new diamond 2 or the hero, since i've had the diamond 1 for a while I decided to try the android thingy.
Compared to that the diamond lives in the stoneages and experiences lot's of lag, my hero sometimes hesitates when coming out of sleep and when I just refreshed the widget's (got new mail ore weather update) it lags a tiny bit, but I don't consider the hero to lag overall so I voted option 2
Typing quickly makes the keyboard lag quite alot which always winds me up.
Scrolling through contacts is very clunky (maybe due to all of them having pictures and facebook status'). But then again dont offer the feature if its crap.
Messages takes too long to load up.
BAM!
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I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
Totally no for me. I thought about 'More of a slight delay' but that would be less accurate, as for the most part things happen very quickly. The keyboard has been known to miss a beat, and large pdf files take a minimum of time to load up the pages as you scroll, but apart from the expected delay in processing intensive tasks, generally I've been pretty amazed at the speed of the thing to be honest. If I was to say the Hero lagged, I'd have to say my PC lagged aswell. Some things do take time. You're not gonna load up a 5Mb pdf instantaneously on the iPhone either.
To completely remove delay or lag from a phone you'd need processing power far beyond that normally required by the software, which isn't practical.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
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Only the visible parts have been removed such as HTC widgets and the homescreen itself. The apps still work great (calendar, people, keyboard, etc). The background services are still present.
Just a bit of delay between switching screens and once in a while I do encounter keystroke lag when typing on eBuddy and RoadSync email - rarely any keyboard lag when texting.
I've been trying out some bits and pieces over the past couple of days and have noticed some serious performance differences.
After my factory reset I didn't set an 'unlock code' with the connect the dots dealy, this has made a massive difference to the performance of my phone. Also, as I'm with Vodafone, I didn't bother setting up Peep, I opted for Twidroid instead. Without peep on a home 'scene' I've got a performance boost too. Twidroid is still running in the background, mind and I don't miss a tweet!
Just thought I'd chime in and see if anyone else had noticed the same.
No lag at all here with anything yet, tried a few different configurations. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but looks like the new update will sort out any lag in the next few days?
No lag for me, sometimes you have to wait a second but compare to my last phone (HTC Diamond) it's just black and white.
The diamond was buggy and slow. The hero is fast, I never had a freeze and Android is the best OS I never tried!
This is my first touch screen, and first android phone, so of course im constantly impressed with it. Blows my mind in fact.
That said, I do experience lag problems:
- that require me to use Taskiller to kill everything once in a while if ive been using to many difference apps.
- Keyboard lag when typing fast. More noticeable if apps are piled up in the background
- Sliding between home screens straight after unlocking the screen. Seems like once they screens are 'buffered' they slide smoothly and quickly. FYI i only use 3 home screens with only the clock, dialer, Taskiller and WIFI widget. Rest is plain app shortcut icons.
- Dialer widget. Sliding through favourite contacts is sloooow. Take a second or two to start moving, and as aboive, once I've slid all the way up and down and its 'buffered' its smooth as silk...
I voted for Sometimes is unusable.
First week I used TasKiller and Advanced Task Killer (great app btw!) to kill unnecessary apps running, and I was very pleased with the performance. Next week I uninstalled all third party task killer apps because I read here that Android should be very capable of handling these things. Well in my experience, I doesn't handle this all too well, I think now my device is lagging more than with me using task killers.
Lagging here means screen unresponsive when unlocking, not being able to drag notifications bar to properly view what's there, home screen switching is not so smooth etc. I'm only using Wi-Fi & other ON/OFF switches, medium weather app, couple of calendar widgets and bunch of shortcuts on my home screen. Only FB contacts are integrated, I'm not on Twitter or Flickr.
Just today I started using class 6 microSD card, and for now, everything seems pretty smooth. But I did remove the battery before doing this so it might not be so dramatic change compared to previous experience. Waiting eagerly for the new Hero update!
Only Sense is slow sometimes
Sometimes (once or twice a day) it definately lags. But it seems only a "Sense" issue. When it happens, for example the scrolling is not smooth anymore and the "SMS" Widget stops working properly (you can't flip trough the messages anymore).
But if I enter any Application, the App. itself works smooth and without any lags at all.
Strange thing is: after a couple of minutes (and it doesn't matter if the phone is turned on or not) the lag disappears totally. Maybe theres is some sort of "memory-rearrangement" or "Disk defragmentation" going on that slows the phone down while running.
it's worth noting as well that whether or not there are any "issues" it's always possible to make the phone lag - playing high-bit-rate-music while trying to browse a flash website will do it, for example - but that's only because the phone doesn't artificially limit what you can do
does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.
What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!
My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.
I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.
Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).
Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).
I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..
i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor
Task managers are a waste of time.
Sawawa said:
Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.
Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.
handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.
Try disabling Location services.
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I agree with this statement.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/
I'm starting to feel like I been had on the HD2 1GHz SD processor. Sometimes I press the Home Key and all the keys will light up but the screen won't come on. Ill even press the Send Key, End Key or Window Key, nothing. I have to hold down the End Key and the screen will show up in a very slow fade-in sequence. Than I can slide to unlock (which is very slow as well) and the Homescreen will pop up but everything is slow or lagging, even the weather animation.
My friends Droid which is only 500MHz is blazing fast, faster than my HD2, how the hell lol? Also my 2G iPhone at 400MHz is faster too. I wasn't running a stock 8GB iPhone either, it was jail-broken on T-mobile and was filled with nearly 6GB of stuff. I had 3 pages of apps, running a custom Nexus One theme with an RSS weather/news feed on the second page and a Nexus one live wallpaper lock-screen. Although it had its share of slowdown between menus and such, it was faster than this phone.
What can I do to speed up this phone (or get my advertised 1GHz), I mean 1GHz I should be flying through the tabs and screens but it lags almost everywhere, even the keyboard is such a pain when its lagging or because of an incoming message or MMS it downloads. Twitter is soo bad at times, it's frustrating. I don't want to be like everyone else and give up on it already, I really like this phone but what can I do to fix these issues? There needs to be an OS update ASAP, phone is glitchy as hell.
P.S. I'm starting to think T-mobile knows this phone isn't as fast as the processor says, all there ads talk about the size of the screen but never about the (so far) industry leading 1 GHz Snap Dragon Processor. Apple is always showing off how fast the iPhone is.
Sounds like you have a problem with your software- my HD2 works snappy and fine.
The original HTC SMS app has a slowdown issue when you have over about 3000 SMSes in the database, you can use the default Microsoft one (search for "Zenyee disable messaging"). Also for my particular device (T9193 Telstra version) they changed SMS in a ROM update so it isn't so bad any more.
The fastest processor in the world can't overcome software glitches. WiMo 6.5 was never optimized to run snapdragon imo since it was out the door anyway.
This is why the iPhone is so stable. Apple controls the software and hardware, and each are optimized to the max, so a slower processor feels faster.
Your friends Droid basically is doing the same thing, in that, the OS is better optimized to use the 500mhz processor.
Same here. The HD2 is laggy, not all the time, but much of the time. It spoils the whole experience because it's unpredictable. I also found the Droid to be laggy and unresponsive. While playing with it at a Verizon store, I was constantly missing swipes and clicks. Only the iphone has impressed me with consistently reliable responsiveness.
I have had no problems with my HD2.... it's the fastest phone I've ever had. Always fast and snappy. I can play playstation games at full speed, run windows 95 at a good speed. It runs everything I throw at it with ease.
its also the fastest phone i've played with, minus maybe the nexus one. compared to every other non-snapdragon phone, there's virtually no lag anywhere other than when opening applications or something.
all the previous windows phones were super laggy, but i feel like the hd2 just rocks. a couple of iphoners have even said its freakishly smooth during navigation or in opera
I have not really had any lag issues on the phone, only a few when I am taxing it.
The iPhone does not really allow true multitasking and was designed for that hardware. Often times people forget to check task manager and kill applications they dont need running. WM6.5 was not taylored to any hardware so its not quite as snappy but I prefer this greatly over my wifes 3gs
I always get random lag too...I believe its due to WM 6.5
Thats why I'm waiting for WM7 to come out so bad, since it will be optimized for the processor.
Bad slowdowns are due to some software crashing and hogging all resources. Soft reset, and if it repeats just start getting rid of the programs you installed and find the culprit.
exchange it for a new one. sounds like u got a lemmon.
Why are some HD2s laggy ?
Check:
1. free internal RAM (if lots of pics are in the album the cache eats the RAM: move it to storage card)
2. Opera-Cache: move it to SD-card. when cache is full and new sites loaded into cache after ending Opera there is some delay in reaction of HD2 for 1 minute till cache is cleared.
3. See sticky threads to optimize registry
4. Install SKTools and run full background automatic services and after installation of apps "Autoclean". SKTools is really worth it´s prize.
5. Get "Junk Cleaner" (free) and once in a while clean junk
6. Check which mods You have installed (wallpapers, themes etc.) and if You have uninstalled old ones before applying the new ones. You can mess up quite a bit the speed with this.
This WM-device is tempting to install (and then uninstall) apps on the fly leaving a lotta crap in reg and temp-folder which You rarely do on Your PC or Notebook thus slowing down Your HD2. Any other phone would have frozen in the mess the instant but Snapdragon handles it, but slow.
My HD2 is blazing fast (faster than some Netbooks/Notebooks) and more usable than almost all netbooks since I follow the above advice (once again 1000 TX to XDA-pros here, they solved almost all my problems)
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Bad slowdowns are due to some software crashing and hogging all resources. Soft reset, and if it repeats just start getting rid of the programs you installed and find the culprit.
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I have not installed any programs and I'm constantly ending task and still no help. The phone has some major bugs.
just flash 1.72 firmware, it is blazing fast and the battery life will be better too!
It would be nice to know what firmware you're using. My HD2 is extremely fast, it replies instantly on nearly everything.
More information would be appreciated.
I have had no such issues with my unit... in fact, it's relatively flawless. The only complaint I have about mine is that I didn't get it sooner...
It's quite fast, incredibly gorgeous, and always reliable. No dropped calls, SMS always on time, and E-mails come n' go as often as I'd like them to. It's absolutely perfect... IMO.
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I have had no such issues with my unit... in fact, it's relatively flawless. The only complaint I have about mine is that I didn't get it sooner...
It's quite fast, incredibly gorgeous, and always reliable. No dropped calls, SMS always on time, and E-mails come n' go as often as I'd like them to. It's absolutely perfect... IMO.
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Exactly the same for me, except for the self-enforced blip with the virus yesterday!
I'm having some problems aswell! And that was even before I started flashing the ROM... Sometimes, it gets so slow that I can't do anything - This happens especially if it has been charged over night. The next day it'll take some time before it reacts (when unlocking) firstly, it takes a lot of time after I press one of the buttons and then secondly the unlock slider can be moved to the side without unlocking.
Sometimes the SMS function just slows down incredibly - It takes a second to respond each letter and it can't keep up with spaces.
I usually close all of my tasks so there is no more than 2-3 running at the time. It just begins to feel so unreliable.
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just flash 1.72 firmware, it is blazing fast and the battery life will be better too!
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You mean this? http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-official-firmware-v1-72-for-asia/
I have a USHD2 from T-mobile, this update is for the Asian version of the HD2.
Freakgs said:
It would be nice to know what firmware you're using. My HD2 is extremely fast, it replies instantly on nearly everything.
More information would be appreciated.
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I have a USHD2 T-mobile. OS Version 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87) ROM Date: 2/22/10.
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You mean this? http://www.htcphones.net/htc-hd2-official-firmware-v1-72-for-asia/
I have a USHD2 from T-mobile, this update is for the Asian version of the HD2.
I have a USHD2 T-mobile. OS Version 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87) ROM Date: 2/22/10.
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Also list any applications, tweaks, backups etc and sometimes it is important to remove the folder \Application Data from the SD Card before or immediately after flashing new ROM be it stock or custom.
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Also list any applications, tweaks, backups etc and sometimes it is important to remove the folder \Application Data from the SD Card before or immediately after flashing new ROM be it stock or custom.
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Flashmore
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Bone stock my friend, I haven't d/l anything or install anything to this phone, it's still a virgin.
Anytime I used the default launcher and add one or more samsung widgets, the homescreens start to lag like crazy when swiping between them. I definitely expect more for a high-end 1ghz phone. Are samsungs widgets just that bad that they suck that much life out of the phone? I also get very slight skipping when I have music playing. Anyone else having any of these issues?
The Samsung Widgets are really bad, IMO. They're slow, must use a lot of memory or something. I'm using ADW, Tunewiki for music, and I really don't need the others. The only thing I really like so far about the TW ui is the ability to change the fonts easily, even if there are only a couple of options.
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Anytime I used the default launcher and add one or more samsung widgets, the homescreens start to lag like crazy when swiping between them. I definitely expect more for a high-end 1ghz phone. Are samsungs widgets just that bad that they suck that much life out of the phone? I also get very slight skipping when I have music playing. Anyone else having any of these issues?
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in my experience it wasn't the widgets that bogged down the phone, i think it's the ROM that needs an update because it opens apps all the time i don't even touch, i know this becuase my task manager tells me and i have to close these apps constantly. currently this is my only real problem with the phone and it's making me want to return it
Hello, I just installed the stock ICS on my Xoom, and I'm disapointed ...
As everybody was saying "the Xoom is now a whole new device", I was expecting so ...
There are good points with ICS :
- new functionalities like icons directories.
- gpu acceleration for a few 2D applications.
- a few websites are now smoother.
- typing texts in forums is now fast.
- a lot more available memory : around 512Mb instead of 400Mb in 3.2.1. EDIT : since a reboot of my Xoom, the available memory dropped down to 360Mb !!!
But I was expecting a lot more fluidity, smoothness, from the 2D applications of Android.
- the new market is more laggy than the one of honeycomb 3.2.1.
- some web pages are smoother now, but some other are slower !!!! XDA for exemple lags more than in 3.2.1 !!!
- the 2D GPU acceleration does not work for all applications : even when "force 2d acceleration" is selected, some applications become smooth, some other don't, even when they are the same kind of applications.
- stock web browser crashes more than in 3.2.1.
- on stock browser search string on some forums don't work anymore (try on XDA !), same problem with some dropdown menus which let the web page disappearing ...
- the new kill apps system in ICS does not really kill all apps. So we still need an app killer.
- the portrait mode is still laggy compared to the landscape mode.
- the available memory, when the Xoom has just been rebooted, vary between 510Mb and 360Mb ... !!! With absolutly no change in my Xoom configuration.
- When you force OFF the screen rotation in landscape mode, if you lock the Xoom and put it in portrait position, when you unlock the Xoom the display will be in portrait mode, and right after the Xoom will be unlocked it will go back to Landscape mode. This bug didn't exist in Honeycomb.
- the cursor to select text to copy seems more difficult to position than in Honeycomb.
- if you kill the stock browser with an app killer, when you relaunch the browser it will then open the last visited website, which is as expected. But if you kill the browser with the Android task killer, then the browser (when relaunched) will display nothing.
So I don't feel like I have a new device, some things are better, some worse.
As I am very concerned by the Android fluidity, ICS is a big step forward, but there are still some more steps to do, and I hope we will be able, one day, to see Android as fluid as an ipad on our Xoom ... But I guess I should stop dreaming.
Maybe you should trying running one of those custom ROMS and see if you see and
better performance or features..it's worth a shot
I think even Stevie Wonder saw this thread coming.
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As I am very concerned by the Android fluidity, ICS is a big step forward, but there are still some more steps to do, and I hope we will be able, one day, to see Android as fluid as an ipad on our Xoom ... But I guess I should stop dreaming.
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Stop running crappy apps and it'll be "fluid".
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Stop running crappy apps and it'll be "fluid".
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There will always be people taking personaly what you say about their toy ! This kind of people should just open their eyes, and stop being agressive.
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Maybe you should trying running one of those custom ROMS and see if you see and
better performance or features..it's worth a shot
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You may be right but I would expect Google to optimize more Android without the need of tuning a custom Rom to gain (maybe) a few more images per seconds ...
With this thread I wanted to ađvise people who are still waiting for the ICS update to minimize what they can expect of it, this way they may not be as disapointed as I was...
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There will always be people taking personaly what you say about their toy ! This kind of people should just open their eyes, and stop being agressive.
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No.
Most of the stuttering is caused by apps which are written by developers who don't really understand Android,
Seriously.
Pay attention to which apps aren't responsive. Look at memory use, wake locks, watch for unnecessary services and background threads.
Eliminate apps one-by-one until stuttering in menus and the desktop stops. Don't run live wallpapers.
Factory reset. System settings from prior Android revisions can cause problems.
I have fixed many of my friends' Android devices when they blamed the device or OS for lag.
Stock 4.04 is quite responsive and fluid. If yours isn't, it's probably the apps you've installed or settings conflicts.
Change animation settings under development to none or at least down to .5 from 1.0.
Use a third party launcher and third party browser if unsatisfied with stock. We have choice...we can use it.
My Xoom is as smooth as butter...no lag or stutter at all.
I always choose the apps to install according to their fluidity. I know some apps are badly developped. I also have no apps running in background (that's why I choosed the stock ICS), always killing running apps before running a new one. I also don't use animated background.
I do my best to let my Xoom run as smooth as possible.
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I always choose the apps to install according to their fluidity. I know some apps are badly developped. I also have no apps running in background (that's why I choosed the stock ICS), always killing running apps before running a new one. I also don't use animated background.
I do my best to let my Xoom run as smooth as possible.
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Have you changed your animation settings under Developer Options (in Settings Menu, toward the bottom) If you don't need animations, then change the settings to "none" it will make a difference.
okantomi said:
Change animation settings under development to none or at least down to .5 from 1.0.
Use a third party launcher and third party browser if unsatisfied with stock. We have choice...we can use it.
My Xoom is as smooth as butter...no lag or stutter at all.
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Thanks for these advises but the problem for me is not the speed of the device but its fluidity. So changing the animation setting did change the speed of the way the menu are displayed but not the fluidity of the animations.
About the fird party launcher, I think it will not make it run smoother as it will run in the background and occupy memory.
dizzy33 said:
Thanks for these advises but the problem for me is not the speed of the device but its fluidity. So changing the animation setting did change the speed of the way the menu are displayed but not the fluidity of the animations.
About the fird party launcher, I think it will not make it run smoother as it will run in the background and occupy memory.
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Why, I don't know, but I have always found increased smoothness from launcher like ADWEX. As they say, "your mileage may vary." The configuration in my signature represents what I think is probably the best, smoothest and fastest combination I can find. I also have tons of apps and a pretty elaborate theme and still my Xoom is butter-smooth. It can be done.
dizzy33 said:
I always choose the apps to install according to their fluidity. I know some apps are badly developped. I also have no apps running in background (that's why I choosed the stock ICS), always killing running apps before running a new one. I also don't use animated background.
I do my best to let my Xoom run as smooth as possible.
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Why kill the apps before running a new one? If you are choosing apps based on how well programmed they are that seems completely unnecessary.
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Hi,
You didn't mention what apps you are running.
I'm running 4.0.4 stock rooted - and no issues in general. It got very laggy once after running for a week, but a reboot fixed it. Like any OS, very complex and not perfect - reboot once in a while.
I honestly don't find ICS to be very much different than HC (nor did I expect it to be). (ICS is what google wanted HC to be but ran out of time, so released HC)
dizzy33 said:
Thanks for these advises but the problem for me is not the speed of the device but its fluidity. So changing the animation setting did change the speed of the way the menu are displayed but not the fluidity of the animations.
About the fird party launcher, I think it will not make it run smoother as it will run in the background and occupy memory.
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Adw auncher makes for a much smoother home screen experiance than stock. Stock struggles with more than a couple of Widgets. Its a diferant experiance, but definatly faster.
dizzy33 said:
I always choose the apps to install according to their fluidity. I know some apps are badly developped. I also have no apps running in background (that's why I choosed the stock ICS), always killing running apps before running a new one. I also don't use animated background.
I do my best to let my Xoom run as smooth as possible.
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Which is why you were so quick to see my original suggestion as a personal attack?
ZanshinG1 said:
Which is why you were so quick to see my original suggestion as a personal attack?
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I thought you took it as a personal attack because you said "stop using crappy apps", which to my point of view is agressive.
That's it. I'm sorry if your goal was not to be agressive.
You know, there are lots of fixes for any problems this device had at one time, but many require rooting and installing custom roms/kernels/recoveries and certain non-stock apps. I realize that some people like staying stock as much as possible...I don't. I want to get root immediately and start customizing. That's just me. Some people don't like to eat meat...I do. Some people can't imagine not driving everywhere...I've never owned a car. We're all different. But sometimes you just have to understand that your desire to stay all stock comes at a price. Lag exists. That's why custom roms exist...to eliminate lag, among other brilliant things.
okantomi said:
You know, there are lots of fixes for any problems this device had at one time, but many require rooting and installing custom roms/kernels/recoveries and certain non-stock apps. I realize that some people like staying stock as much as possible...I don't. I want to get root immediately and start customizing. That's just me. Some people don't like to eat meat...I do. Some people can't imagine not driving everywhere...I've never owned a car. We're all different. But sometimes you just have to understand that your desire to stay all stock comes at a price. Lag exists. That's why custom roms exist...to eliminate lag, among other brilliant things.
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OK, so I'll check the custom ROMS ... Can anyone specify which ROM is the best for fluidity ?
I didnt have or notice any of the problems you had on stock ICS
I am running the following rom on my xoom atm and have had no issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437358