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Fiat Bravo & Canbus messages

Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!

_javi_ said:
Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!
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That feature doesnt necessarily work on all cars, look for an app like "Car settings" or "Car service" in the apps when you have it set on the 2 Fiat Bravo CAN Bus setting, if you cant find it anywhere, go through all apps, if you still cant find anything, then that feature is not supported. You could also try any other Fiat CAN Bus setting, or maybe Lancias, Alfa or even some Chrysler vehicles theyre all made by FCA so there is a possibility it may work, probably not but worth trying.
You could also try the menu on the car, I know on the Bravo you can control some stuff on the factory nav unit, if you didnt ahve nav in the car it may be a case of turning the feature on via the car before it will work.

After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!

_javi_ said:
After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!
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Ah, thats annoying.
The OS has nothing to do with it, its the MCU that deals with this sort of stuff, so an OS update for wont help, an MCU update may do IF they add full support for the Bravo and theres no guarantee that they will.
Some cars have CAN Bus but use resistive SWC (my Alfa is like this, but some Alfas do have CAN Bus SWC) which could explain it.
There may be a way round it if you buy an SWC adapter for your car. These headunits supposedly use the same SWC protocol as Pioneer, so if you got a Pioneer/Fiat Bravo SWC adapter, disconnected the 2 SWC wires from your CAN Bus box and attached them to the SWC adapter it would convert the CAN Bus SWC signal from your car into resistive so the stereo can understand them. AFAIK this has not been done before but it should work.
EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.

typos1 said:
EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.
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browsing other threads i saw there are users with the same issue. SWC app shows just a blank screen (with save and reset buttons on top).
I´m still studying this (among other things... the mtcd HU is nice.. but it looks like it needs polishing)

hi, is your witson still working?

Android PX3 head unit changed speedo to KM from MPH

Hi ive recently bought a android PX3 head unit, installed it ok but it has changed my milage into KM as im in the UK i need the speedo in MPH, there is a app installed called control settings, in this there is a milage setting set to < KM > but it wont change, most of the settings in the control settings app like temp set to C wont change to F either, indicators set to one flash etc the only setting that i can change is CD indicator.
would anyone know if this could be a software bug with the MCU or the android version?
where would i look for a update? i dont even know who the manifacturer is.
The head unit has no physical buttons only a reset hole so can anyone please tell me how i would get to the recovery screen?
ive never had a android head unit before so dont know much about these units.
Can anyone please help me change/fix this setting or another app or update i can install that can change the milage back from KM to miles,
model px3
android 7.1.2
kernel 3.0.101+
mcu MTCE_KSP2_V2.70a_1
thanks for any help
regards
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would this work with the HU, just connect upthe 3 wires? and not connect the HU plug connector that goes to my info screen?
regards

I have the same problem, in the US with a BMW 90 android head unit. I think there is a bug in the MCU firmware that reverts back to Metric units on boot. Lucky for me, I am able to change things from Control Settings app but I do have to do it every time the unit boots. I have reported this to the seller of my head unit but they don't have any solutions. I am hoping they will fix it in the near future.

did you ever get your problem sorted as I now have the same problem

Hi no the seller didnt want to know and just fobbed me off for months before blanking me on whatsapp, no firmware updat as promised, nothing, so what i did was got a set of these:T - 3 Car Intelligent Steering Wheel GPS, hang up/answer, volume setting, music Controller with Noctilucent Function buttons https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zee...191.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.68734c4dUQL81J whicc work quite well, ive also recently ordered a button stalk like how the older radion buttons were: Car steering wheel button remote control lights car navigation DVD / 2 din android Bluetooth wireless Universal remote control,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car...596.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.68734c4dUQL81J but im still awaiting delivery of it.
ill be very happy with the stalk as well as the buttons ive stuck to the centre consol, no where near as cool as the steering wheel controls but i really needed my speedo in MPH
anyways hope this helps somewhat not perfect but better than the speedo flashing between KM/MPH
regards

shadowfoxmi said:
I have the same problem, in the US with a BMW 90 android head unit. I think there is a bug in the MCU firmware that reverts back to Metric units on boot. Lucky for me, I am able to change things from Control Settings app but I do have to do it every time the unit boots. I have reported this to the seller of my head unit but they don't have any solutions. I am hoping they will fix it in the near future.
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I know this is old but I have the same issue with my Joying head unit and my BMW e90. On start up, I have to go into my settings and set everything to American/Imperial units. Did you ever find a fix to this? It's driving me nuts.

Bosion Head Unit PX6 Android 10, 10" Display - Steering Wheel Controls

I have a Bosion PX6 Android 10 head unit.
My car is a Toyota Camry 2010 that came with a basic radio with XM radio and the Bosion 10" is an amazing upgrade for this car.
I am having a problem with the steering wheel controls as they don't set up with the button setup in the vehicle setup menu. I have tried many times with different settings.
The buttons on the left side of the steering wheel sort of work, the ones on the right do not seem to work at all.
In the hidden menu the various CANBUS settings don't really make any difference. There's like 10 different Toyota settings but all act the same as setting the Canbus to 0 (no Canbus?).
Anyone have any suggestions to resolve this?
I'm also looking for Bosion contact info or web page.

okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.

cowboypt said:
okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.
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It sounds like you know what you are talking about. Fyi that I have been through the hidden menu. When you say the canbus must show up and report the version, I am not clear on what you mean. I have tried all 7 or 8 Toyota canbus configs and when I select any, the phone loads an associated program and reboots. None are really making any difference, always the left buttons kind of work and nothing on the right.
Any suggestions you have would really be appreciated.

Where you see the kernel version, os version and mcu version you must have also canbus version.
Can't show it to you now but you should see something like simple and version as 1.13.something
If nothing is there, the canbus config is not yet correct and radio can't detect correctly the canbus box. But you say that some steering wheel buttons are working. In this case. It seems to me that the canbus module in the radio is not yet updated to your car or the canbus box firmware is also not with a version where your car is supported. Contact the seller and claim if you still have time for it.

UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).

Anyone know if there is a website for Bosion for manuals and updates?

I don't think so :/ I've tried to get some answers from manufacturer but they aren't well informed, i think. Or they are not willing to tell a secret :/

rkrigsman said:
UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).
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what can bus did you buy? for what car?

The car was a Toyota Camry.
kontosoglou said:
what can bus did you buy? for what car?
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Sorry for the delay, I have an aftermarket box from PAC called SW1-RC-1 which works 95% perfectly and allowed me to program the buttons as normal.
I have a 2010 Toyota Camry.
The only issue is the Bosion PX6 Android "10" is that in the setup for the canbus within the head unit, there is no button to map to for the voice button to on the steering wheel. Seems like a very odd issue as the voice button is so normal and I'm still looking for an update or a way to find that button in settings.

Issues with Android CANBUS box stop working: VW Gold MkIV

Hi all,
I have installed in my VW Mk IV Golf a Xtrons Android car head unit.
Its great, never had issues with it. Its fast and responsive although wish I had a remote control fo some sort for it that I could attach to the steering wheel liek I had with my previous Android car head unit which was a a Joying.
The Joying unit wasn't bad but the screen ended up going and even though I sent it back to Joying they fixed it its seem with a faulty screen and part of the screen never repsoned to touch commands.
However, that is not the issue at hand.
I seem to eb having a problem that is happening opn my Xtrons unit and ti also happened on the Joying Unit.
For some odd reason, maybe once a year, the unit does not want to switch off when the engine is turned off.
My normal fix for this has been to replace the canbus box that comes with the uniut. I've gone through three of these canbus boxes now and there not that cheap to repalce (Xtrons charges £50)
Does anyone know or has experienced something similar? Any idea whats casuing the Canbus box to stop working? Anyone know if i can buy these canbus boxes cheaper some where else other than Xtrons?

Bmw x5 e70 problem mit android HU

Hello everyone. It is a BMW X5 E70 2008, ccc. I bought HU on Aliexpress (the version is in the picture). After installation, the OEM BMW menu does not work (no signal), the usb does not show and the electronic steering wheel adjustment does not work. All cables well connected, checked several times. Can someone help me enable these functions? Thanks in advance

Hi , did you get CANBUS box with this unit?
Canbus is used to connect multimedia device with car functions and car ECU.
If you have one installed probably wrong settings are set for car. You can change it in factory settings menu (hidden menu with PIN code access).
And consult with your seller about bought head unit rather than writing problems here on forum.
As for system update, you can ask seller for update or find on this forum or net, by search term "ZLH_BMH" - that's your version of software for unit.

Hello and thanks for your reply. I have the canbus and it is connected properly. Checked several times by an auto electrician. Everything works as it should except the oem bmw menu. In the factory settings you're talking about, I tried all the options, but it's always the same - no signal. I think it's definitely a software problem and I can't find an update here or anywhere. And the seller is completely useless

serbia4ever said:
Hello and thanks for your reply. I have the canbus and it is connected properly. Checked several times by an auto electrician. Everything works as it should except the oem bmw menu. In the factory settings you're talking about, I tried all the options, but it's always the same - no signal. I think it's definitely a software problem and I can't find an update here or anywhere. And the seller is completely useless
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I would try to change canbus box with other one, another model like HIworld or Simplesoft, obviously there is no communication between ecu of car and head unit or cables behind unit for keys / steering wheel are misconnected or misswired. Check for wiring diagram for this device, find it one net somewhere.