Exactly as title says. Anyone else have the official clear view case from Samsung? Does AOD work when your cover is closed? Would be pretty convenient and for some reason Samsung decided not to include this handy feature...
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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NonXtreme said:
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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Because AOD use proximity sensor to detect whether your phone is in the pocket and turn itself off to save battery. Motion sensor can't do that. Also for motion sensor to detect your movement it need to be on all the time, thus massive battery drain.
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I dont know if this is an issue with other handsets.
I installed proximity screen off application . The purpose was to have the phone turn the screen off when i close my flip case.
However i found something strange.
When the flip case is very close to the screen the proximity sensor does not seem to detect that there is something covering it.
Is this an issue with every one ?
Any solution
Please see the videos
As you can see from the videos when i bring the shield very close the proximity sensor does not seem to detect the sheild.
Edit : However if u use ur finger this is not seen
I've noticed the same behavior, it's quite annoying because it kills one of NoLed's best features (screen off using prox. sensor).
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Still really annoying that the original flip cover won't work with the proximity sensor. A workaround might be a third party flip case. A diy modification of to the original one won't work since if I close it AND hold whatever object that alone is enough for a positive result over the flip cover, the sensor will still not register positive [because a minimal distance between an object and the glass surface is required, see below].
mine works even with a finger...
I've done it a few times accidently when i was trying to access the notification bar while on the phone
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mine works even with a finger...
I've done it a few times accidently when i was trying to access the notification bar while on the phone
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Thats the thing i was saying.
With finger i works great even if u touching the screen
Dial *#0*# and press sensor. If it vibrates, the proximity sensor is registering an object.
Maybe it comes in handy with testing.
It's working for me, thanks for the tip about the app!
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Okay, I tested and found that indeed when you set the app to:
"Cover an hold to lock the screen" to say 5 seconds.
Close the flipcover.
It does not register.
However. If I set:
"Disable Accidental Lock" to .25 seconds.
Close the flipcover.
It works quite well.
Coming back to the sensor. It indeed does not register the flipcover when it's closed and touching the screen.
Weird thing is it does not register your hand anymore either.
Recreating issue:
Remove flipcover and lay it completely flat over the sensor.
Dial *#0*#.
Press "Sensor".
No registration.
Now hover your hand over where the proximity sensor is, and... How about that, no registration.
This indeed messes up NoLed's battery saving feature.
This can also be a problem when:
You set screen timeout to 10 min.
In the app's settings set "Disable in landscape" to on.
Then use an app in landscape mode.
Close flipcover while in landscape mode.
Then rotate to portrait. At this point it should start registering again and turn off screen..
The sensor does not register and screen stays on.
Drains battery.
It is a really cool idea, but it does not function properly.
It's too flaky, also when just handling your phone. I find myself accidentally turning off the screen.
Maybe if you use a case or some other cover with a different or thicker material it would work better.
I ordered a Zenuscase, I'll give it a try with that one.
Don't know how long it'll take to arrive though
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heey i found the problem , the sensor is working fine ... but when so close with any black object the light is not reflected back to the proximity sensor.(black color absorbs light).
Repeat your video with any white object and you will notice the difference..
Now i am using Autostart and it works great with samsung original flip cover (white flipcover).
you can use any white sticker on the black one.
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heey i found the problem , the sensor is working fine ... but when so close with any black object the light is not reflected back to the proximity sensor.(black color absorbs light).
Repeat your video with any white object and you will notice the difference..
Now i am using Autostart and it works great with samsung original flip cover (white flipcover).
you can use any white sticker on the black one.
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ya correct, just few day back i have asked this issue to developer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22170417&postcount=5
But it will work perfact if you use proximity + light both sensor enabled.
Color has no influence, distance between an object and the proximity sensor is what matters. I've just tested this using pieces of paper, cloth, metal and wood in white and black colors. The sensor seems unable to correctly register anything that is less than approximately 1 mm away from the glass (it may report 0 cm or jump to 5 cm). Also it seems it only reports changes of a certain minimal distance between two readings, even if the reported value remains the same as the old one. Anything below the threshold of the 5 cm reading will always result in a reported value of 0 cm, but if the effective distance between reading A and reading B was below a certain threshold, the sensor will not report a new reading of 0 cm (thus an object hovering stable over the sensor will not produce a 2nd post). I'm not sure if the sensor has a state that can be read at any time. From my tests using AutomateIt Pro, it seems only new posts can be used by apps. And if the delta between two readings is to small to make the sensor post a "new" result, then this can be problematic under certain circumstances (like trying to turn the screen off after the flip cover got closed (prox. sensor = 0 for 0 sec) and stays closed (light sensor = 10 for 5 sec) while preventing the screen from going off after an accidental wipe over the prox. sensor e.g. with the hand).
@Dr. Ketan: I've tested Power Switch (again) and I'm quite certain that for the Note + Flip Cover it only works through the light sensor (which is unsatisfying since it then won't work correctly in the dark). Covering the proximity sensor only doesn't make the app reliably react.
Power switch works ok for me with the Samsung flip cover. I have the confirmation set to minimum Abe theactivation delay set to 0 seconds.
It doesn't always work from the lock screen but works fine from the home screen or apps
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so is it a hardware issue of software?
might it be fixes in ICS? it's fu***ng annoying! just bought the flip cover(black) yesterday and also bought smart cover app, my note's screen keeps on turn off (when flip closed) then it turns back on (flip still closed)!
Any solution for gingerbread? like proximity calibrator perhaps? (while waiting for final version of ics to come out)
Power switch will work if you use proximity + light sensor both.
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Power switch will work if you use proximity + light sensor both.
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It's so sensitive that the moment my finger move over the sensor, the shutdown menu pops up.
Any app that works with the flip cover?
I'm not sure if this posted elsewhere but i just found this feature and thought it was interesting.
If you wave your hand over the camera when the device is off it partially turns on and gives you indicators for missed called and messages.
To clarify, it is the proximity sensor, and yeah I saw a video of this recently.
motions>more settings>quick glance.
Yea you are right. it is the proximity sensor. I didn't realize this existed and was cleaning the screen and it kept turning on and couldn't figure out what i was doing to get this to happen lol. .
Settings > motion control > quick view in case anyone wants to turn it on/off
Drains a lot battery imo..as proximity sensor keeps on when screen is off..
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I have two SGS4's. On one, when I place a call, the call screen stays on and it turns off when I raise it to my ear. It then turns on when I pull it away.
On the other, as soon as I place I call the screen goes dark. The only way to get it back is to push the power button and unlock the phone.
The "Turn screen off during a call" setting is set on both phones.
Anyone have any idea what is causing this? Next step is to do a wipe, but that just sucks.
I'm on stock and not rooted.
Thanks!
Sadly I have the same issue on mine but not my wifes.... hope somebody knows something or maybe the rumored update thats going to be coming out will have a fix?? I dunno...
jprocket45 said:
Sadly I have the same issue on mine but not my wifes.... hope somebody knows something or maybe the rumored update thats going to be coming out will have a fix?? I dunno...
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Have you tried doing a reset yet? I'm hesitant since it's a pain to restore everything the way I like it. Definitely a weekend task.
Sirchuk said:
Have you tried doing a reset yet? I'm hesitant since it's a pain to restore everything the way I like it. Definitely a weekend task.
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I have done a reset it solved it a little I guess but still having issues once in a great while all works well id blame it on the otterbox case but my wife has one so dunno if that could be the issue you have a case on urs never really played with the phone outside of the case lol
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I have done a reset it solved it a little I guess but still having issues once in a great while all works well id blame it on the otterbox case but my wife has one so dunno if that could be the issue you have a case on urs never really played with the phone outside of the case lol
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Nope, mine is naked for now. I'll have to do a reset today/tomorrow and see if that solves my issue. If not, I'm taking back to the store for an exchange. It's only been a couple of weeks.
To late for me to take it back but suppose to be a update coming soon that does alot of fixes so we will see Good luck like I said reset I did notice fixed it a bit let me know how it goes I'm threw sprint just curious if you have them only reason I ask if it's just a carrier issue with software or something I doubt it but just figured to see who you had lol
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Dial *#7353# and make a test
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Dial *#7353# and make a test
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That's what I was looking for!
Sure enough,the proximity sensor was always on and wouldn't go off.
I'm with T-Mobile and they have a 30 return/exchange policy if you buy it outright, which I had, so it only took about 10 minutes for them to exchange it!
Thanks for the testing code! XDA comes through once again!
Same problem when I'm making a call, the screen goes blank when I put it to my head and when I remove it nothing happens.
I tried *#7353# and the proximity sensor goes of but will not stop..
I'm currently rooted, could it solve the problem to go back to stock?
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jprocket45 said:
Sadly I have the same issue on mine but not my wifes.... hope somebody knows something or maybe the rumored update thats going to be coming out will have a fix?? I dunno...
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I have had the same problem over the last 3 weeks and decided to take a gamble. I tightened up all the screws on the device and squeezed real hard on the area where the prox sensor is and poof... it works. I have no idea what was up but I feel like the sensor is loose and the pressure resolved the issue. Many other post have talked about cleaning the area over the prox real good and it works but I think its the pressure that is actually fixing the issue. Anyone else have any ideas? Sorry if this was posted incorrectly, I have never posted before but I felt this issue is a PITA.
I have i9500. Unrooted with latest OTA update installed (Build XXUBMG1).
I've been having the same problem with proximity sensor. When proximity sensor is enabled during phone calls (both regular calls and Viber calls), the screen is disabled. Also, my screen sometimes remains on during the call until I place it to my ear and sometimes it turns off immediately during the call. It wasn't always like this, but I can't remember when it started happening, but I suspect it was since the last OTA update.
I've searched around online and have noticed several comments.
Apparently this is an issue with several Galaxy models over the years (sorry, I lost the reference) and this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208440&page=2 mentions Galaxy Note 2 and SGS3 having the issue where there is something wrong with the threshold setting in the calibration settings. Mine appears to have the same issue where it always reads 0cm (i.e. always covered). However this thread also suggests a fix to input some code to adjust the calibration if your phone is rooted.
One suggestion is there is a misalignment of the sensor and so it might be partially covered by the phone's front fascia, causing the sensor to always read as covered or "1" or 0cm. But looking carefully at mine, it looks centred dead-on.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417401 indicates that the sensor is always on as can be seen through a digital camera LCD (but not with your naked eye). I've tried this with my DSLR and confirmed this also happens with mine, even when the option is set to turn it off during calls, and also even when air gesture (which uses the prox sensor) is turned off. Not sure if this affects the problem or not though.
Can't remember where I read this, but someone mentioned that when shining a bright light over the phone, it works. So I downloaded two sensor apps from Google Play: Android Sensor Box, and Proximity Sensor Finder. And also used the inbuilt *#7353* feature. All three report that my proximity sensor is always reading that something is constantly covering it..... EXCEPT when a bright light (the sun works) is shining on the light sensor - not the proximity sensor. I tested this by using a torch on both sensors. When blocking light from the light sensor, the problem persists, but not when I allow the light to shine on the sensor. So it appears that they both act in unison.
Similar issue with air gestures, which used to work when my phone was new, even in relatively ambient light (but obviously not in a dark room), but now doesn't under similar conditions, and again... EXCEPT when a bright light is shining on the light sensor, or when I'm out in the sun.
Anyway, I'm not willing to root my phone at this point, just to try the fix suggested in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208440&page=2 (my phone was bought overseas and returning it wouldn't be convenient for me). And since this wasn't always a problem with my phone, I suspect it is a software problem related to one of the recent OTA updates.
Edit: After further testing, it seems that air gestures use the front camera as well as the light and proximity sensors.
My proximity sensor works - when I go into diagnostic, it goes green when I bring a hand near the sensor - my issue is that it doesn't seem to notice when I remove my hand and there no longer is anything proximal - until I hit the back button to exit the test. Other than blowing out the earphone jack, does anyone have a suggestion?
Thx.
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I have i9500. Unrooted with latest OTA update installed (Build XXUBMG1).
I've been having the same problem with proximity sensor. When proximity sensor is enabled during phone calls (both regular calls and Viber calls), the screen is disabled. Also, my screen sometimes remains on during the call until I place it to my ear and sometimes it turns off immediately during the call. It wasn't always like this, but I can't remember when it started happening, but I suspect it was since the last OTA update.
I've searched around online and have noticed several comments.
Apparently this is an issue with several Galaxy models over the years (sorry, I lost the reference) and this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208440&page=2 mentions Galaxy Note 2 and SGS3 having the issue where there is something wrong with the threshold setting in the calibration settings. Mine appears to have the same issue where it always reads 0cm (i.e. always covered). However this thread also suggests a fix to input some code to adjust the calibration if your phone is rooted.
One suggestion is there is a misalignment of the sensor and so it might be partially covered by the phone's front fascia, causing the sensor to always read as covered or "1" or 0cm. But looking carefully at mine, it looks centred dead-on.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417401 indicates that the sensor is always on as can be seen through a digital camera LCD (but not with your naked eye). I've tried this with my DSLR and confirmed this also happens with mine, even when the option is set to turn it off during calls, and also even when air gesture (which uses the prox sensor) is turned off. Not sure if this affects the problem or not though.
Can't remember where I read this, but someone mentioned that when shining a bright light over the phone, it works. So I downloaded two sensor apps from Google Play: Android Sensor Box, and Proximity Sensor Finder. And also used the inbuilt *#7353* feature. All three report that my proximity sensor is always reading that something is constantly covering it..... EXCEPT when a bright light (the sun works) is shining on the light sensor - not the proximity sensor. I tested this by using a torch on both sensors. When blocking light from the light sensor, the problem persists, but not when I allow the light to shine on the sensor. So it appears that they both act in unison.
Similar issue with air gestures, which used to work when my phone was new, even in relatively ambient light (but obviously not in a dark room), but now doesn't under similar conditions, and again... EXCEPT when a bright light is shining on the light sensor, or when I'm out in the sun.
Anyway, I'm not willing to root my phone at this point, just to try the fix suggested in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208440&page=2 (my phone was bought overseas and returning it wouldn't be convenient for me). And since this wasn't always a problem with my phone, I suspect it is a software problem related to one of the recent OTA updates.
Edit: After further testing, it seems that air gestures use the front camera as well as the light and proximity sensors.
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Proximity sensor
I had problem with proximity sensor in my galaxy s3 mini but my rear camera had error and fc also.I tried everything and nothing work.Finaly I open device and disconect camera and connect it again and camera started to work.But for my suprise proximity sensor now works perfect and I did not touch it.I can't explain what happend but I am happy.
I guess what it comes down to is.....for some you can reset the sensor, for some they can blow it out with compressed air, but others actually have to take apart their phone to fix this issue.
marduj5 said:
I had problem with proximity sensor in my galaxy s3 mini but my rear camera had error and fc also.I tried everything and nothing work.Finaly I open device and disconect camera and connect it again and camera started to work.But for my suprise proximity sensor now works perfect and I did not touch it.I can't explain what happend but I am happy.
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hi
i have the same problem. any solution guys ?
( BTW - im on NB3 INS firmware )
I think I summarized the available solutions just before your post. There is no single thing which always works, you'll need to go through and see which fixes yours. This happens primarily because of hardware, with the sensor getting dirty - so it comes down to how invasive the procedure to clean it.
Shohat said:
i have the same problem. any solution guys ?
( BTW - im on NB3 INS firmware )
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Hubris2 said:
I think I summarized the available solutions just before your post. There is no single thing which always works, you'll need to go through and see which fixes yours. This happens primarily because of hardware, with the sensor getting dirty - so it comes down to how invasive the procedure to clean it.
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i'm sorry. i already tried your first solution and it worked like charm ! thank you ! :good:
HOw to solve, none of this works. How cann i clean proximity?
Hey everyone! I am having a big problem. Previously, my air gestures used to work perfectly but now they are not. I've even enabled Quick Glance, air browse etc under settimgs but still I can't use air gestures! :'(
I've tried rebooting too. Is there any fix except for factory reset or flashing firmware?
My device is gti9500 with android lollipop stock rom.
I would suggest downloading sensor test from the play store and checking if the proximity sensor works as intended.
GDReaper said:
I would suggest downloading sensor test from the play store and checking if the proximity sensor works as intended.
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Yep. Proximity sensor is working fine.
munimjaffer said:
Yep. Proximity sensor is working fine.
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Yeah, but the proximity sensor and air gesture sensors are separate. If one works it doesn't mean the other one works.
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Yeah, but the proximity sensor and air gesture sensors are separate. If one works it doesn't mean the other one works.
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I did as you said. Downloaded app to check proximity sensor and that was working fine, now what's the fix?
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I did as you said. Downloaded app to check proximity sensor and that was working fine, now what's the fix?
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Did you read what I said?
The air gesture sensor has nothing to do with the proximity sensor. They are 2 different sensors.
If you want to fix it, re-flash the stock ROM. If that doesn't work, you might have to tear the phone apart and clean the sensor.
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Did you read what I said?
The air gesture sensor has nothing to do with the proximity sensor. They are 2 different sensors.
If you want to fix it, re-flash the stock ROM. If that doesn't work, you might have to tear the phone apart and clean the sensor.
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Ok
@GDReaper , I've detected the problem. It is hardware related. The problem is that from the top(where there is Samsung logo) the screen is slightly raised upwards. When I press the screen tightly inwards and then try to air browse, it works fine. Is there any way I could bring screen back to its position?
Sorry for little bit of bad English.
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@GDReaper , I've detected the problem. It is hardware related. The problem is that from the top(where there is Samsung logo) the screen is slightly raised upwards. When I press the screen tightly inwards and then try to air browse, it works fine. Is there any way I could bring screen back to its position?
Sorry for little bit of bad English.
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Try using a blow dryer to heat up the screen and then put something fairly heavy on the screen to keep it pressed down.
Hopefully the glue should become liquid from heating and harden again with cooling. Otherwise you might have to change the glass.
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Try using a blow dryer to heat up the screen and then put something fairly heavy on the screen to keep it pressed down.
Hopefully the glue should become liquid from heating and harden again with cooling. Otherwise you might have to change the glass.
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Ohh ok bro
I would like to ask about the operation of the proximity sensor, is it always 100%, or does it ever happen to you that the display does not go out when you put it to your ear?
Just zoom out and zoom in and is it OK?
pbaudis said:
I would like to ask about the operation of the proximity sensor, is it always 100%, or does it ever happen to you that the display does not go out when you put it to your ear?
Just zoom out and zoom in and is it OK?
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You can zoom out and zoom in the proximity sensor?
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Proximity sensor test *#77692# works at 100% and during the test it still flashes, during the call it does not flash, it works, but sometimes it happens that the display does not go out.
pbaudis said:
Proximity sensor test *#77692# works at 100% and during the test it still flashes, during the call it does not flash, it works, but sometimes it happens that the display does not go out.
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Sounds like a software problem if it works in sensor test and not during the phone call.
Can you confirm this by placing your finger at the proximity sensor location during a phone call?
You can try factory reset your phone and see if it still persist. If it does you'll need to send it back to samsung for warranty claims.
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