Hello,
First i want to say that i really like the forum!
I've read a lot on your forum because i am new to android and got my Note 3 for a week or 2 now.
But i cant figure out if it is possible to root my Note 3 because i cant find anyone with the exact same firmware as i do, it shows:
AP: N9005XXUDMJ7
CP: N9005XXUDMJ7
CSC: N9005OXXDMJ7
Is it possible to root using Kingo (without tripping KNOX)? i believe it is not possible through Root de la Vega.
Kind regards,
Robert Buchel
Edit: i've placed this in the Verizon section but it is a non carrier version so maybe this topic could be moved because i cannot delete it.
im sorry
yes you can root with kingo and claims have it that it doesnt tripp knox..
but after root. you might wanna instal supersu from playstore or chainfire website. and remove kingo su. hence kingo is asian< so you might wanna run with chainfire after root..
hope goes well!:good:
Thanks for your response :laugh:
I believe it is also possible through odin?
I cannot send the link because I am a new user but anyway.
I've send a message to this guy and he says it doesnt trip your KNOX ether and he runs MJ7 as well
I dont really know the diffrence (exept for the method) but i will try Kingo this evening.
Thanks again for your response!
yes you can root with odin..only if your firmware is Ml9 if your on MJ7 then better off with kingo.
it doesnt work. it keeps saying:
"An app has been forced stopped due to an unauthorized attempt to access system settings. Check now?" No other info is given.
I've got a check box to not "check" again for 30 days. Other choices are to cancel and OK. If I click "OK" it takes me to ALL APPS.
I don't know what to do now
edit: if i pressed ALL APPS i had i warning that it maybe harmfull to install unauthorized software but i had an option to press intall (mktcamera) and it rebooted but im stuck on waiting for device.
I've tried serveral times but i will try on a windows 7 machine later this day (im on windows 8)
Well i've tried Kingo a few times and also on windows 7 but with no succes :crying
At the end of the proces i get an message saying that the exploits do not work and it is not possible to root my phone.
There is an option to continue but that will ward my waranty.
I Guess i have to wait.
I saw 1 other method (odin) as i mentioned before but i am not 100% sure that my KNOX keeps at 0x0
I know you posted here hoping for a positive reply, but you also know that you mistakenly posted this in a Verizon Note 3 forum. With that said, if you have a VZW Note 3 with the VRUBMJ7 version, Kingo will root the phone without tripping Knox in my experience and what seems to be the experience of many others on this forum.
Now for the bad news that you don't want to hear. There are quite a few versions of the Note 3 that Kingo cannot root yet (one of them being XXUDMJ7), and Kingo has acknowledged this. On top of it all, Kingo also says that there is a 1/1000 chance that on the note 3 you may trip Knox during the rooting process.
Something to think about down the line if you know the version you have can be rooted but yours doesn't root for some reason, I had to use a USB 2.0 cable plugged into a rear USB slot on my computer to get Kingo to root my phone. The front USB ports did not work and neither did the USB 3.0 cable that came with the phone when I tried to root my phone at first. Others may have had other experiences, but those are mine.
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Yes i am sorry that i posted this topic in the wrong section.
Thank you for letting me know your experiences.
It didn't work with usb 2.0 ether.
I guess have to wait till someone posts a new way or upgraded kingo to root my device.
Umm...
Haven't you guys heard that Kingo is very dangerous and almost definitely spies on you?
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Haven't you guys heard that Kingo is very dangerous and almost definitely spies on you?
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astralweeks said:
Haven't you guys heard that Kingo is very dangerous and almost definitely spies on you?
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Haven't you heard their response about that issue? Ugh. :what:
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I want to use Knox when I get my Note 3 tomorrow but I also want to root it. I know there are ways to root without tripping the counter but I'm wondering, in the case that it does get tripped, does it actually disable/remove Knox? I honestly don't care about the warranty but I do care about the feature being disabled.
knox won't work when you root and trip. It throws up a message.
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That's what I was wondering. Thanks!
However, Know will may still be active on your phone. You just can't access the Knot security container. You may get messages that some program is trying to access system files and it's been blocked. This is also a feature of Knox.
You can disable the Knox app by going to terminal and entering a command, can't think of it off the top of my head but it's in the 1st post of the root del la vega thread.
I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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cinnamngrl said:
I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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If you took the OTA update to 4.3, then yes you are on the Knox bootloader. AND you are stock unrooted (unless you've since rooted).
Yes it's safe to post a pic of you system config; there is nothing anyone can take from that information that is harmful to you.
Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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Clean Knox
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To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.
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To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.
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Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Yes, custom recovery will trip Knox.
1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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cinnamngrl said:
1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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A. Yes you can, if you don't want the Knox warranty flag use Safe Root. If you google safe root for S4 you should find the link. The Knox flag is actually tripped when you install a custom recovery. This means if you use cf autoroot, twrp, philz, or any other root or recovery the Knox flag will be tripped. If you want to install a custom rom or mod, then you will trip the Knox flag since those require a custom recovery. If you just want to root and remove bloat, backup with TiBu, install xposed framework modules, or even unlock the hotspot then you can do those without a custom recovery and keep your Knox warranty flag in place.
B. No, once you have tripped the Knox warranty flag, so far the flag is not reset by installing updates or the full stock tar file of a newer version.
C. Not at his time.
D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?
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Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?
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Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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Only thing I think is really wrong is "Is" instead of "His" (IMHO)... but then again, I'm an IT guy...
That, and I need to put my S4 in my sig! :silly:
leaderbuilder said:
Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.
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what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.
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Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you
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Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you
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Sorry, but I was responding from my phone and couldn't post links but here you go:
Find the correct MK2 odexed hot spot mod in post #337 of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950&page=34
Then you can follow crawj's procedures here to manually install the update without a custom recovery: https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx...E!131&app=Word&wdo=2&authkey=!AJdLcpl9ak9eZnw
Good Luck
is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?
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is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?
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The problem occurs within the bootloader of the MJA or newer firmware. With that version of the software, Samsung has prevented the downgrading of the bootloader so there is no way to get rid if that feature. You can go through the rom and remove or disable the Knox files, which do nothing for the phone except free up some space. Knox's purpose is to allow Samsung to create a secure environment for corporate and government companies that need to protect their info and intellectual properties. The average user will never need Knox, so it's safe to remove. When Samsung fully implemented Knox with 4.3 they integrated it into the bootloader. Now, all of us assume the Knox warranty flag voids your Samsung warranty, which it probably does, but I believe its true purpose is to void the Knox integrity check so the Knox secure containers know the phone has been tampered with and can't guarantee data security.
Data security is big business and Samsung wants a piece of that pie.
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computer programs and knox
so once knox is tripped to 0x1 does that prevent your phone being read by other programs? only reason i ask is because i have tripped knox and some of my data on my phone has been erased (notes, pics, sms, contacts) and the programs i have wont even acknowledge my phone.
Hi,
I'm trying to find out if I can install the AVG Anti-theft (free, rooted) app without tripping knox. It wants to either do a direct write or have me flash a update.zip in case I don't have NAND access (S-OFF). Do I? Anyone tried this? I like AVG's Anti-theft and it's free. Just wondering if I'll screw up my device flashing it. I haven't found anything via google. TIA.
This is a good question actually. I just rooted my Note 3 using Knox and USB 3.0 last night for the first time. I had the N3 since day 1 but had no PC to root it. Finally was able to pick up my new PC so I went ahead and rooted just being excited I was able to. But now that u mention it, before rooting with Knox I was using the paid version of Lookout mobile security and I thought when I rooted it would have wiped my phone completely but I still had all my apps. Needless to say Lookout was still installed and is still working after root without issue so far. Wether or not I tripped Knox idk? I did get the pop up asking me if I wanted to disable Knox after rooting which I said yes to, but at the time I wasn't even thinking about the fact I had Lookout installed. Like I said no issues so far, but if I tripped the counter or not I do not know? I'm not sure how u check even?
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You can check by booting into download mode with vol down + home + power i believe. It will say know 0x0 or 0x1. Interesting that you were able to install Lookout. Which method did you choose? was their an option? I'm using AVG, which lets you do writes to protected areas which is why I made this thread...
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You can check by booting into download mode with vol down + home + power i believe. It will say know 0x0 or 0x1. Interesting that you were able to install Lookout. Which method did you choose? was their an option? I'm using AVG, which lets you do writes to protected areas which is why I made this thread...
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I honestly don't remember what permissions or method I chose with Lookout on my N3. like I said I installed the premium version before rooting and it just ended up staying on the phone. Only reason I was even using Lookout was because I recently picked up the Z1s on my T-Mobile line and it came with the premium service of Lookout for free so I figured what the hell and installed it on my Verizon N3 as well. I'm sure whatever method I chose was just the method Lookout suggests by default though. I'll have to try n check n see if I tripped it or not and I'll let ya know.
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I honestly don't remember what permissions or method I chose with Lookout on my N3. like I said I installed the premium version before rooting and it just ended up staying on the phone. Only reason I was even using Lookout was because I recently picked up the Z1s on my T-Mobile line and it came with the premium service of Lookout for free so I figured what the hell and installed it on my Verizon N3 as well. I'm sure whatever method I chose was just the method Lookout suggests by default though. I'll have to try n check n see if I tripped it or not and I'll let ya know.
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cool man, let us know the results. of course, you might have tripped know some other way but im very curious to find out your status. thanks for your help.
I rooted my Galaxy s5 g900t with towelroot and downloaded supersu, I accidently disabled knox through supersu and my private mode will not work. I did have xposed installer as well but i believe it is now uninstalled. I have also noticed that i cannot switch from dalvik runtime to art runtime anymore as well. Considering i am a new to rooting, i plunged in without creating a backup of my photos and videos , does anyone know of a way to re enable knox, or to retrieve private mode photos or videos in any other way or are they a lost cause? If someone can help me retrieve them, ill allow them to see the videos lol just kidding, but help is appreciated! A pre-thanks to anyone who can help!
There is no need to open multiple threads on the same subject. Why don't you continue with your first thread about this that already has replies?
Your original thread: rooted galaxy s5 will not enable private move
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Still trying to figure out the lay of the land.
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Still trying to figure out the lay of the land.
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I posed a new update of my module XSecureStorage it supports now SHealth and Private mode.