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Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!
Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced
galaxinho said:
Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced
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Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though
FRLinux said:
Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though
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Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!
Ayrlupine said:
Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!
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Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.
sarsh11 said:
Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.
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Yeah, I said encryption. Of course we have no idea about the bootloader until it's released or someone techy gets their hands on one! That's why I said we have to wait. Sorry if my post was ambiguous.
SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.
Broomfundel said:
SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.
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Yes saw that but it doesn't mean it is flashable just like that until you see it working. Good start anyway.
FRLinux said:
Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!
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There's already a running topic on this question found here.
Beards said:
There's already a running topic on this question found here.
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Thanks spotted it afterwards.
FRLinux said:
Thanks spotted it afterwards.
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No problem... Your not the only one who has started a topic and found later it's already running.
That link I passed you is actually a second topic on another which was started a day earlier here.
That means we now have three topics covering the same (although each will fragment as further posts are made).
Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.
HappyBallz said:
Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.
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Seem the norm these days on android handsets but keep in mind that the mobile market has always liked a locked an tight device.
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SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs
vegetaleb said:
SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs
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Yes over time there is always a way. But that said, new devices tend to have better boot loader locking.
Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?
monkley said:
Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?
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Search this very forum. Several threads opened about this but only speculations until someone has one and messes with it.
Locked bootloader...
So I see the chat regarding the locked bootloader on the sg2...I also see people on the forum actually have the device...could they some how check and see if it is locked?
I have been going round in circles looking for a new phone...finally decided on the sam sg2 to find out they are going down the same route as moto!
So, to all the happy owners of a shiney new sg2...whats the dealo!?!?!?
owners of the sgs2 in this forum? you must be mistaken lol...
sam locking the bootloader? who told you that nonsense?
they wouldnt dare to lock the bootloader. its 1 of many reason why sgs 1 succeeded as it did.
if they want sgs2 to be a successful device as well they wont lock the bootloader. it makes sense that the bootloader will be UNlocked.. but then again you can never tell... we might be like if we will find out its locked. followed by and then after we will unlock it. leading to
The following was posted about 30 minutes ago on the Moto forums by forum manager Mark:
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When is the next firmware update to gingerbread 2.3. Let's try to stay on topic, and have fun.
1. It's kind of a loaded question. "about to start" and "a while" mean different things to different people. No lie, it's difficult to manage everyone's expectations. I don't want to set the wrong expectations. Mis-interpretation just leads to frustration and further pessimism. I don't want to promise something that I don't have the control over delivery. I wouldn't expect any soak sign-up, at minimum, for another week. Soon as we get closer to soak I'll invite everyone.
2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it. This isn't specific to any product or carrier. Further details will be released as they are known.
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Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
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Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
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They do? Which ones? Last I checked, all sorts of phones have locked bootloaders. It's just that Moto's the only one who actually does more than simply lock it.
If the soak test sign ups started in a week, you could look at soak testing starting a week later, and if past updates are anything to go by, an update another week later if all went well. That puts the GB update at in the last week of July.
On the locked bootloader, a lot of people said they will not unlock until they get the official update enabling this, so although many of us are already locked, many people are probably getting screwed. Might push them to just unlock now.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
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In a sense, yes. A question, and then my thoughts.
While the AT&T bootloader can be unlocked now, is it possible (not likely, just possible) from a technical standpoint, that Moto could release a GB update that would prevent pudding from working? Say GB is release next week. A month from now a guy buys an Atrix, pulls it out the box with GB. Could that GB update prevent him from unlocking the bootloader? I think it's possible this could happen.
Further, my thoughts are that there is concern for future Moto devices on AT&T. We have a reasonable solution now, for this phone. What about future Moto devices? I don't think AT&T would allow such an unlock.
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
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Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
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Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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I agree, they are just trying to think that there are fools out there who will believe there BS reasons.
Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
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Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
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No way... Wow. Those Droid 3 users are going to raise a **** storm
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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My theory on this is that carriers were willing to subsidize manufacturers' bootloader lockdowns that ensured the carrier bloatware would remain installed and stuff like tethering could be mitigated. Perhaps AT&T paid Motorola more than other manufacturers, so it's a matter of arguing over money.
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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Unlocked, or unlockable? If they are unlocked out of the box... I don't know. Maybe if presented with a choice (what Moto is doing), they would say no. But they wouldn't push for it up front. Maybe?? I don't know.
I still think they are just unlockable, and not unlocked out of the box. HTC allows for an unlock solution (my guess is so does Samsung). Not sure on LG. Moto decides to ask carrier permission.
I still see no reason why AT&T would approve such a thing. We haven't had a carrier-sold Nexus, and I'm not holding out hope we will. Look at how AT&T has crippled Android before: no sideloading, limiting apps, etc. And now you think they'll play nice with everyone?? LOL
I respect you, and I respect your opinion. I politely disagree. I don't think AT&T is the most advanced-user-friendly carrier (or dev-friendly, but we're not all devs here). Moto is certainly not the most dev friendly with the efuse and locked bootloaders. Combine the two and it's a damn mess. Shame, because I really like this lapdock feature that Moto wants to do more of.
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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because Motorola encrypts them with signed keys ...
NoNameAtAll said:
No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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Correct. Wife has Inspire and it's locked.
Have to create gold card to unlock it.
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munchy_cool said:
To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
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Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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thebeardedchild said:
Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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yeah man, same here just waiting for the custom ROM's to come.
Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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Hauwei uses a COMPLETELY different bootloader than Samsung, so I highly doubt this would work, or even be useful for anyone trying to unlock the Samsung bootloaders.
Side-note, get a Canadian one with MG1 and you're fully unlocked right out of the box. =)
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Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
Well you're right about s4 not being flagship much longer. The S5 will be out in Feb. Lol
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
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Do you know if DJBliss is working on it?
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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They did. In the beginning it was a cool phone because we had development for it. Now we're so limited on what we can do. Rooting it can even be dangerous with some of the new methods.
Its a shame that the S4 is now the iPhone of Androids. All nice and locked down making it near impossible for the user to get the most out of his device.
The s4 bootloader will not be unlocked again. The only hope we have is a loki-que exploit. Jeboo's new patch allows the live booting of unsigned modules but only until the memory is erase (i.e. reboot). I believe I read somewhere from hash code that he is trying to get jeboos patch to work with kexec so it can be used during boot in combination with safestrap to load custom kernals and in turn, allowing the use of aosp roms.
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How long could it be before an implementation of this for the average user on XDA? Days? Weeks? Months?
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Your guess is as good as anyone else's. All I know is that @Hashcode knows about this and is trying to get kexec working using this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578566&page=3
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was always under the impression it was unlocked because we were able to run CWM/TWRP.
Highly doubt AT&T will ever unlock the bootloader, but it would be nice if we had an AT&T developer edition of the S4.
More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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I'm pretty sure my next phone will NOT be ATT. Other than that I'm still pretty open brand-wise
i really like my S4 with my tax refund im just going to get buy an international version of it, and sell my at&t branded one. or trade it for something else like an iphone to play with. Or ill wait and see how the S5 looks.
As was mentioned already, kexec is probably the only feasible solution at this point. The ATT/VZW BL bounties have been 5k+ (I think) for months on end with no reportable progress.
If I stick with Sammy for the S5, it will be the international version since I pay full price anyways. They have a huge dev community and strong user base, something ATT/VZW has ruined
As been stated, there will be no bootloader unlocked for the att s4..what a crock...I have since moved on to the Note3 tmo UNLOCKED device. I still use my S4, frankly, I have no problem using loki on the phone....I have never let any of my phones ever do updates, never seen one upgrade with the OTA...
Sad this happened because I really liked the S4. All my HTC phones are unlocked, S-Off and the whole nine. I had this phone for only 4 days and besides it's beauty, it was a disheartening experience. I think this trumps the Optimus L9's experience of a locked bootloader. Even the Optimus G Pro's bootloader can be unlocked using an app.
I think Sammy wants to be Apple in regards to how Apple has a user experience of being locked. Also with the fake S3s/S4s/Note out there they probably do not want their software cloned.
I will say in the 4 days I had it it prompted me to start a business. I learned how to root and unlock the phone just by switching modems and running regionlockaway.
As the title says might switch to verizon when the s6 releases. Coming from and at&t s5 with bootloader being locked and updates slow. I wanted your guy input.
How long was it for you guys to achieve root? Unlocked Bootloader?
And of course hows development going? Is it still Alive ?
Thanks guys for your input.
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As the title says might switch to verizon when the s6 releases. Coming from and at&t s5 with bootloader being locked and updates slow. I wanted your guy input.
How long was it for you guys to achieve root? Unlocked Bootloader?
And of course hows development going? Is it still Alive ?
Thanks guys for your input.
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We achieved root on June 15, 2014. I'm pretty sure that was the same time as the AT&T version.
We have not unlocked the bootloader.
Check out the Development subforum and you'll see we only have a small handful of developers going. They are wonderfully talented/dedicated, but a small group.
But keep in mind - this is the S5. The S6 could be totally different, with either TONS of development or none at all. Or it could be very similar. Each phone is different and it's just a matter of what catches on. You won't know until after it's out.
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We achieved root on June 15, 2014. I'm pretty sure that was the same time as the AT&T version.
We have not unlocked the bootloader.
Check out the Development subforum and you'll see we only have a small handful of developers going. They are wonderfully talented/dedicated, but a small group.
But keep in mind - this is the S5. The S6 could be totally different, with either TONS of development or none at all. Or it could be very similar. Each phone is different and it's just a matter of what catches on. You won't know until after it's out.
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I hear ya, that's why I wanna see what htc brings to the table I'm hoping they can "wow" me with there new m9. And there development is always good as long as htcdev allows anybody to unlock the bootloader.
I guess I will know soon enough ?
David111jr said:
I hear ya, that's why I wanna see what htc brings to the table I'm hoping they can "wow" me with there new m9. And there development is always good as long as htcdev allows anybody to unlock the bootloader.
I guess I will know soon enough ?
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The chances for root for the VZ S5 were slim anyway and it took Geohot to break it. Forget about bootloader, it will most likely never happen. Same thing with root of the S6
ldeveraux said:
The chances for root for the VZ S5 were slim anyway and it took Geohot to break it. Forget about bootloader, it will most likely never happen. Same thing with root of the S6
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Agreed. They probably won't provide an unlocked bootloader.
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Agreed. They probably won't provide an unlocked bootloader.
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No, Samsung definitely will not unlock their bootloader for non-dev handset (if they even still make the dev version). My point is I doubt anyone will be able to unlock it...
I'm hoping for Dev. Ed. S6, like the S4 and S5 before it.
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I'm hoping for Dev. Ed. S6, like the S4 and S5 before it.
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i hear you guys and even if the s6 would never get root i think i can live with that as long as there would be reasonable timed updates. the main reason for me to root would be to flash a rom that has a new update that a stock ota would take months behind.
i think sunday i will get my answer when we will see the specs on both m9 and s6 and would just have to make up my mind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/s7-s7-edge-root-t3321556/page16 Look there and you'll see it looks like root has finally been achieved. Sounds like they installed the newest TWRP and then using that flashed supersu. It does trip Knox though. I'm about to head off to work so I can't test this now but it looks promising.
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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For those of you with G930FD, G930T, G930W8, G930P....be patient, I'm waiting for Samsung to release the kernel sources. The trees are already ready, just waiting on kernels...
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Alarand said:
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have opened this thread then. That's what I get for trying to think that early in the morning.
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
rmyc said:
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
Yeah. I wouldn't count on anything any time soon. Not days, not weeks....
If you want a root able device. I would suggest taking the phone back.
Ummmmm, do you guys know what's going on with root on the US versions?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Yes that's old news.
Corwinder said:
Yes that's old news.
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Then perhaps a change in thread title is worth considering until the situation changes :good:
start a facebook group to pressure samsung to release the lock,??
schreckles said:
Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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Ummmmm, no.
Galaxy S7 Bootloader Lock Explained: You Might Not Get AOSP After All | XDA Developers
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Unless John Legere at TMO can sway the powers-that-be at Samsung to unlock the bootloader for the G930T/G935T (and supposedly he's trying), nobody will be rooting any time soon.
MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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You must not get on here much. This is the biggest story lately and the reason why everyone is mad/frantic.
TMOBILE locked the bootloader John is playing us after 14 days when return period is up he will tell you guys Samsung said no its has nothing to do with Samsung it's the u.s carriers with the new leasing programs, warranty exchanges, and unauthorized tethering...They are losing money from phones which have been rooted
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I understand everyone being upset about the latest development but some need to calm down a bit. Not saying it's anyone in this thread though some comments are a bit over the top. Maybe some people are new around here or others have the memory of a goldfish but this isn't' the first time this has happened to a device. There are a multitude of ways around this. Motorola who is known for locking bootloaders with almost a hatred for consumers, was defeated with the combined effort of many people on XDA. They managed to find the key to unlock the bootloader and it was smooth sailing from there.
Will we obtain the key? Quite possibly. we'll either do it the hard way and get lucky running a program on multiple computers and phones to decrypt it. The other option is that it'll be leaked by an internal source (probably the most likely). Samsung might even give us a dev program to unlock it similar to HTC. The fact is Samsung doesn't want a large customer base to be this unhappy. We are the most influential consumer base as well. Think of all the changes and additions to Android over the past few years. Changes that started here first and were adopted by manufacturers. They use us and in a way, need us to show them what people want. Let's not forget that XDA is the most influential Android site on the net. If Samsung gets snuffed here badly it'll spread very quickly.
TL;DR It'll happen one way or another guys. Chill out. May not be in the time frame we're use to these days (remember waiting weeks to months for root back in the day?) but it will happen. focus on pressuring those who can exact change into doing so. For the ones capable of it you should focus on ways around this.
I for one am not worried. I had a Motorola Defy that had a locked bootloader. By the time I had bought the phone though it had been out for a few months and people had found a way to put custom roms on it so I was happy.
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit ?
Shaffer678 said:
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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How does Samsung pay or Google wallet work? How would I know which retailer supports it?
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This thread should be completely deleted.