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Hi guys, anyone coming from N900? Would you recommend Nexus S and/or Android
I had an N810 just for fun way back in the day, but I dumped it because Android totally owns it. If you need a physical keyboard I'd recommend the G2, otherwise the Nexus S is the best.
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Physical keyboard quite important for me but so is the stock android. Don;t like sense and other customizations
I have both (N900 and NS).
N900 has 32GB+microSD, better cam, more video and audio format support.
NS has better screen, Flash 10.1 and Android 2.3
Yep, I came from an N900, though I have had Android devices since the OS launched.
Finding the Nexus S a great improvement on the Nexus One, and indeed the N900. The only drawback is the lack of hardware QWERTY.
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Physical keyboard quite important for me but so is the stock android. Don;t like sense and other customizations
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The G2 is running near stock Android. It just didn't receive its updates straight from Google like the Nexus does.
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With physical keyboard epic 4g by Samsung is the best in the market
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Yep, I came from an N900, though I have had Android devices since the OS launched.
Finding the Nexus S a great improvement on the Nexus One, and indeed the N900. The only drawback is the lack of hardware QWERTY.
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I'm in love with the MicroB on N900. Is Android browser close to it?
I came from the N900 and have played with the N8 & Dell Venue Pro. In my opinion, android and the Nexus S are head & shoulders above Maemo & N900. web-browsing with MicroB is pretty awesome, and I do miss the physical keyboard for snes emulator and other things, but I REALLY dig the Nexus S.
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I'm in love with the MicroB on N900. Is Android browser close to it?
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It's tough to compare.
Browsing on the Nexus is excellent, the UI's great and the rendering is good but for all its sins MicroB was pretty much a desktop browsing experience, and the Nexus certainly doesn't feel like that.
I'm happy with the Nexus though as it covers enough bases to make it an upgrade.
What do you miss most from N900?
I've had n900, for a year since it launched and I love the phone but the lack of support ruins the experience. I've had the nexus for a few days and I thought reverting back to android would be tough (had g1 for a year also from launch) but it was quite easy. I totally miss the dashboard and multi tasking on the n900. That is one thing that android lacks but a quick way to adjust is hold home and use last used apps. The nexus's hardware is good enough that when u open up apps the old apps don't shut off. So u can switch between apps unlike older android phones that wouldn't put apps in idle cause it took to much resources to run multiple apps. Anyways it feels like I'm ranting lol, but bottom line this is my first phone without a keyboard and I don't miss it at all. Andorid 2.3 is a big improvement and hey n900 has a 2.3 port now too try it out.
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I'm waiting for nitdroid but still no update for 2.3 port
Yea waiting for the update too. I use my n900 as my dedicated mid. Best one so far =D
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Hey guys I am a big fan of Android and am currently looking into getting a 7" tablet.
The only thing that is putting me off the Nexus 7 is the fact that the apps look like a enlarged version of the phone apps. I currently own a HTC One X and love it but was looking forward to a more native experience on the tablet. I am really keen on the Nexus 7 because of it's price but am also a little tempted by the iPad Mini's design and apps specifically made for tablets.
I just wanted your opinions on whether the larger tablet app selection on the iPad Mini is worth the $100 price difference between the two products? Are the enlarged phone apps on the Nexus 7 really that much of a deterrent? I am really confused at the moment and am hoping that your opinions on this issue combined with other arguments for the Nexus 7 or iPad Mini will help me in making a decision.
Thanks for your time and look forward to the replies.
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Something tells me you're not going to find many people in this thread who will say the iPad Mini is worth the $100 premium over the Nexus 7. The Nexus has better specs overall. Unless you have other reasons to consider the iPad (i.e. you have other iOS devices that could take advantage of iCloud), I can't see any reason to consider the iPad Mini
We have the N7(me) and the Ipad2(wife) in the home. Both are great gadgets but N7 is faster, smoother and has the superior os.
As for blown up phone apps its mostly a problem on the Ipad2 where the tiny 3.5 apps really look dreadful on the 10 screen. Most android apps are made for 4.3 screens and still look great on a 7.
Only arguments I can see for the Ipad mini is if you want an optical port out or the possibility of a sim card (I am not even certain that then mini will be getting those?).
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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The iPad Mini isn't a 7" tablet, it's 7.9", you should take into consideration that its considerably wider.
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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That's the reason I love Android. With iOS you need to buy a separate app for your iPhone and your iPad, prime example Borderlands for iOS, and many other "HD" games. With Android, you buy a game and it should work with all of your Android devices be it Tablets or phones.
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Nexus 7, you won't regret it
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I would wait and do a hands on side by side in a store and see which will do what YOU want best.I love my N7 but there are many things I can't do because of lack of apps that might work on the mini. jmho
Just went and got me a Nexus 7 and the girlfriend and iPad mini Friday. The only thing I think the iPad has one up on the n7 is the washed out colors. Other than that. IPad what?????
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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hmmmmmm look here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-ipad-mini-races-the-nexus-7-towards-a-cold-hard-surface-in-a-drop-test/
Had a good look at the mini against the N7 myself.
The N7 is not built as well (though it appears to be getting better) and its screen is more washed out and smaller. Its also slightly heaver and slightly thicker and does not have a rear facing camera. It is also single band wi-fi, unlike the mini's dual band. However, its dpi is greater and its smaller and therefore easier to hold one handed or put in your pocket (not sure a bigger device would as the N7 is snug). The N7 has the more powerful innards and it uses a micro USB connector rather than a proprietary one, which means that you can get hard drives etc to connect more easily. The Nexus 7 has less apps, but it still has tens of thousands of them. The N7 is customisable, where as the Mini is not. Battery life for each is about the same.
One thing that is NOT the same is the price. A 32gb N7 with 3g is £239. An ipad mini of the same spec is £449. So, does £210 extra seem worth it for the ipad? For me it doesn't. But even if it did, I'd not get it as Apple have sucked of late in the way they have spent longer in a court room than in an R&D lab.
Even if you take out the price I would still buy the 7 over the mini. It has better specs and I couldn't ask for anything else for a tablet. Granted, it is a great looking tablet and build materials are top notch but it is not worth 100 dollars more than the 7.
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From wht i have heard, the ipad mini has better build quality than the 7. But dnt care. My nexus is a beast man!!!!!!
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Go for the N7, unless you want people call you "sheeps"
I own a Nexus 7 and an iPad 2. Personally I think the form factor as well as the materials the NExus 7 is constructed from especially when you include the Specs and pricing make it far superior to the iPad Mini. The Mini seems a bit wide for the average person to put in their pocket, the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. When looking at a 7" screen this really matter as this will be your primary web consumption device. I love the plastic back of the NExus 7 because I can put it down anywhere without worrying about scratching. So far as native tablet apps, I used to think the same thing and after reading this post I put my Nexus 7 down next to my iPad 2 and what I realized was that of course Apple makes some apps that are beautiful to look at (SOME) but the Android apps FUNCTION much more efficiently. Look at apps like Pintrest, Funimation, Plex and others. They are just more functional on the Nexus 7 and android devices.
All that said, if you are very vested into the Apple ecosystem and don't have an iPAD then the mini may b what you need. If you already have an iPad don't be redundant with an inferior device, the iPOD is better than the iPAD mini. Grab the Nexus 7 and begin your consumption.
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.. the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. /QUOTE]
At great risk of exposing my ignorance of the Apple ecosystem, I think Apple had a very good reason to keep resolution at 1024x768, matching the IPad 2 4:3 format. This is not as good for movies, but it maintains compatibility with existing Apps. Apple Apps don't scale, so they would have to be re-coded if the resolution changed. Retina display icons would just be too small in this format.
I am sure we have enough Apple agents here to correct me if I am wrong.
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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What bugs? About to pick up a nexus an like to stick to just rooting my phone.
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I own an iPad 2 and a N7. I absolutely love the N7 due to its portability, it easily fits in my pocket and I can carry it everywhere. I know the iPad mini is smaller than its larger counterpart but it is still not pocketable. The N7 does have great specs but the major disappointment for me was the lack of quality tablet apps. I don't see the point of having a quad core processor if apps don't take advantage of it. Sure its great and everything but I would choose better apps over better specs. App Store > Google Play store.
looks like the new nexus 7
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looks like the new nexus 7
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Good catch! You know? It looks like the device Samsung used to demonstrate their new Exynos 5/GPU chipset..
Resolution matches the existing N10.
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Good catch! You know? It looks like the device Samsung used to demonstrate their new Exynos 5/GPU chipset..
Resolution matches the existing N10.
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yeah your right
this is weird... look at the waves on the nexus 4
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this is weird... look at the waves on the nexus 4
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I'm pretty sure that's a new developer option that was demonstrated at I/O.
So it says 10:23 on the clock of the tablet on the back... maybe it's hinting a possible date ?
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So it says 10:23 on the clock of the bigger tablet... maybe it's hinting a possible date ?
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KiraYahiroz said:
So it says 10:23 on the clock of the bigger tablet... maybe it's hinting a possible date ?
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What do you mean "Bigger tablet"? They are the same size.
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What do you mean "Bigger tablet"? They are the same size.
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This. If you look at the bezel of the "bigger" tablet, it's exactly the same as the new Nexus 7 as well. I seriously doubt a Nexus 10 would have such a large side bezel.
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What do you mean "Bigger tablet"? They are the same size.
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Fine... Look at the tablet on the back... better now ?
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Fine... Look at the tablet on the back... better now ?
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The point I was trying to make is that the picture shows two Nexus 7's and a Nexus 4.
Look at my (Crudely) drawn edit from the photo above. Using the specs from Google's tech specs page.
Basically unless the Nexus 10 is as wide as the Nexus 4 is tall this image just shows two Nexus 7's.
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The point I was trying to make is that the picture shows two Nexus 7's and a Nexus 4.
Look at my (Crudely) drawn edit from the photo above. Using the specs from Google's tech specs page.
Basically unless the Nexus 10 is as wide as the Nexus 4 is tall this image just shows two Nexus 7's.
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I can see that, but the point I was trying to make out is the time on the clock instead of it being an actual next gen Nexus 10, Google sometimes leaves hints things with the clock. Judging from the screen on the back tablet shows it's the Nexus 7 anyway, it's just a silly error with me saying bigger instead of back.
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I can see that, but the point I was trying to make out is the time on the clock instead of it being an actual next gen Nexus 10, Google sometimes leaves hints things with the clock. Judging from the screen on the back tablet shows it's the Nexus 7 anyway, it's just a silly error with me saying bigger instead of back.
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Alright then, I was just confused since the front device also shows 10:23 as the time. No big deal.
I don't think that's it, but I do think it's coming this fall:
@ amir_Efrati Expect to see new 10-inch Nexus 10 Android tablet (made by @ samsung) in the near future, Google's @ sundarpichai tells me
https://twitter.com/Amir_Efrati/status/360089603434229760
Has anyone received the Nexus 6P that already had the Note 5?
I was wondering which one you liked more, and why?
I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...
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Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...
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Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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I'm getting a note 5 Saturday
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Custom ROM's on the 6p have aosp multitasking option in developer options. It's experimental but it does work on every app (I think you need to root the note 5 to use any app, I did for my s5 and note 4) it works though I'm using it right now for xda app and hangouts
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Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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6P you can't use two apps at the same time like the Note 5. Send me a screen shot with running two apps.
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Had a at&t note 5 for 3 weeks before getting my nexus 6p and the nexus 6p is more so the right phone for me ....the front facing speakers are great like my old nexus 6 but even better , the software experience on the nexus is more fluid than the note 5 , the note 5 does have a brighter display , the note 5 does have a slightly better camera but both are great! , battery life so far is better on the nexus 6p, never had ram issues with my note 5 so multitasking is about even even besides the dual window option's on the note , you get more storage on the nexus out of the box 25gb usable on the nexus only had around 20gb usable on the note....i don't seem to miss the s pen much nor do I miss wireless charging....but to sum it up both phones are great
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That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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I wouldn't go as far to say all of that. However, it is true Samsung handicaps what can be done by the device. Hardly any useful apps can be used to multitask I just came from the note 4 and I'll tell you that I'd ditch multitasking and all of tw features in a heartbeat for this phone. Plus I don't like the way Samsung is designing their new phones. Hate the metal design time and time again plastic has been the better material, no removable back or SD port. They killed off the main reason why I would even buy a Samsung flagship over the nexus line. And this is someone who has had every note except the 5 and had the s1 and 2.
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I've never felt the note 5 to be premium. I prefer the note 4 over the 5 build quality and the camera is better on the 6p.
It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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Well, since I just sold my Note 5 for the 6P, I guess my answer would be the 6P.
I just got it today, so my experience with the 6P is somewhat limited but here are my thoughts (I'll leave the price difference out of it, but that's obviously a huge factor as well):
The Note 5 is probably the BEST phone on the market right now, period. Features, power, design, it has everything. Everything except being a Nexus and running stock Android. This means the 6P has a noticeably smoother and, in my opinion, better UI. The Exynos CPU is undoubtedly faster. This is most noticeable when launching apps. The Note 5 will definitely beat the 6P there. That said, would you even notice if you didn't have them side by side? Probably not. The Snapdragon 810 is no slouch and nothing feels slow when you're using the phone. So to me, the Note 5 has an overall negligible edge on power when it comes to actual use. As for the multitasking capabilities mentioned above, unless you mean the split screen which usually seemed like little more than a gimmick to me, the multitasking is pretty bad on the Note 5. It has an extra GB of memory, and yet it still constantly kills apps. Hopefully Samsung tweaks that more with future updates because I feel the 6P probably has the advantage in multitasking at the moment.
The Note 5 also has a slightly better screen. They say they are the same panel, but I suspect either Huawei gets the slightly lower quality screens of the two, or Samsung still has some tricks up their sleeve to optimize their own screen, or probably a little of both. That would explain the number of screen complaints on the 6P while the panel is still relatively new to production. Again, assuming you don't get a pink screen like some, the screen still looks every bit as good for the most part. I can't imagine anyone complaining about a good 6P screen. Samsung has a brightness setting called The Face of the Sun which I don't miss forgetting to turn back to adaptive before looking at the phone in the middle of the night. I haven't really used the phone when it was really bright outside yet, so I can't say for sure if I miss the extra brightness there, but again I have no complaints about the 6P.
The camera is also better in the Note 5, but the 6P's is pretty damn good too, and if you care that much, get a real camera and stop trying to take pictures on your phone. That's pretty much the end of that discussion for me. The main reason I got the Note 5 was because Samsung finally designed a nice phone again, but again, the 6P feels equally premium. In fact, while I respected the design of the Note 5 and wanted to like it, I kind of didn't. Something about the feel of it just never felt quite right to me. I still think a glass back on a phone is stupid, just like it was when Apple did it and learned their lesson. I very much like the look and feel of the 6P, especially the Frost version that I have. The back of the Note 5 is too rounded and it makes the already slippery glass back feel like a bar of soap in your hand. Oh, and one last feature that was actually pretty important to me on the Note 5 was the wireless charging. Too bad it doesn't work half the time.
Now, onto the 6P. Like I said, the 6P has more than enough processing power, a more than good enough camera and screen (again assuming a good one), and a fantastic design and feel. Remember that sinking feeling you got when that first 6P pic leaked? It's light years better in person. I really do like the design of this phone. It reminds me of my One which was one of my favorite phones. Being that we are all here on XDA, the advantage of the 6P is that it DOESN'T have the Exynos processor. I had the Note 5 less than a month and was already getting annoyed that I would never be able to have anything but the stock software or small mods on top of it. Touchwiz was incredibly better since I last saw it, but it's still pretty ugly, in particular the notification drawer in the Note 5 really bugged me compared to stock Android. Because of all this, the smoothness of the 6P makes it feel like a faster device during normal use. You'd never know it was a little slower without having them side by side. And of course, there's always the time difference in receiving updates. Sure you'll get Marshmallow on the Note 5, and probably pretty soon. But every update after that will start getting more questionable and probably slower as other phones become their priority.
So in conclusion/tl;dr, they are both at the very top of the list of best phones on the market. The speed differences aren't something you'd ever even know most of the time without directly comparing them, and you'd be forgiven to think the 6P might even be faster. They both top the list in nearly every category. I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in either phone. If you value any of the Samsung specific bits like the stylus, then the Samsung is for you. If you value the ability to modify the software on your phone and receive updates as soon as they are available, the 6P is for you. If you have either, consider yourself lucky to have one of the best phones on the market. I switched because I wanted to be able to use real ROMs and kernels, not just the tease you get with an Exynos device, and I wanted updates ASAP, even as previews. I suspect most people who are here on XDA probably value this as well, which is fairly evident by the fact that a month newer device has WAY more activity on here.
Dude I was scared to do the switch. The 6P MURDERS the note 5 (in my opinion).
Don't be scared if you're on the same boat, or at least try it and if you don't like it, just send it back.
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It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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Added screenshot of multi-window.
Edit: Apparently the device will only take a screenshot of the selected application and not both open windows. Don't have another camera.
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I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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But a note 5 is worth $0.96 right????
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I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Is that the 6P? The pic looks uneven, how do you do it because I can't find the function even under the developer settings?
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Are you rooted?
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Apparently alot of us think alike, i had my 1+1 since invite (64) and i still love it , but the 6p i a whole lotta fun , both are great fones, i have to admit the 1+1 has a better screen , just seems clearer to me , theres a lil learning curve with the 6p , a surprising amount of people , both phones are staying stock, to me its a waste of money staying stock , if you like stock go with sammy or lg , to each his own ,
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Apparently alot of us think alike, i had my 1+1 since invite (64) and i still love it , but the 6p i a whole lotta fun , both are great fones, i have to admit the 1+1 has a better screen , just seems clearer to me , theres a lil learning curve with the 6p , a surprising amount of people , both phones are staying stock, to me its a waste of money staying stock , if you like stock go with sammy or lg , to each his own ,
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Got 1+1,1+3, and a nexus 6p...my personal opinion the nexus 6p is my favorite out of all 3 phones. Not stock at all. I'm on Official AICP with xposed and stock kernel. My 1+3 is on an unofficial version of ACIP atm. The 6p has amazing battery life for my needs. I run a WiFi hotspot off it for and I'm on my 6p
95% of the time and I'll easily get 5⅓ to 6 hours of screen on time. My only issue with the 1+3 is the Bluetooth quality that comes out of it. I get way higher sound and better quality out of the 6P. Like i said though that's my personal opinion. Screen quality of the 6P is superior than the latter two devices. But I'm sure as development progresses for the 1+3 I'll switch over to it permanently as my daily driver. But my 1+1 I'll always love. OnePlus makes an amazing device for the tech hungry person such as myself. ?
I agree i still love my 1+1 , but i have to the 6p is alot better , this device is just as amazing as the 1+1 was when i got, i stopped buying carrier devices with the OG Note , never look back
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I agree i still love my 1+1 , but i have to the say the 6p is alot better , this device is just as amazing as the 1+1 was when i got it, i stopped buying carrier devices with the OG Note , never look back
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