Just wondering if you guys use DTS audio?
of course, the sound feels so much better, without it its just, boring, with no life
00471 said:
of course, the sound feels so much better, without it its just, boring, with no life
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I guess it depends on the genre of music you listen to and the headphones /earphones you use, I find it makes the audio sound less crisp and removes the depth of the low end. It also comes down to personal preference.
TheDevGuy9497 said:
I guess it depends on the genre of music you listen to, I find it makes the audio sound less crisp and removes the depth of the low end, what headphones do you use?
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im using Piston 3 for dayli use, and Sony MDR-V700DJ for more serious listening. DTS is lossy format so its not the same quality as stock audio file, but i think its negligible diference for common people and the overall experience from music is better with DTS enabled, it feels more alive and it makes you like you are surounded by the music :good:
Headphones I use.
00471 said:
im using Piston 3 for dayli use, and Sony MDR-V700DJ for more serious listening. DTS is lossy format so its not the same quality as stock audio file, but i think its negligible diference for common people and the overall experience from music is better with DTS enabled, it feels more alive and it makes you like you are surounded by the music :good:
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I use Sony MDR-XB700 over ear headphones for serious listening, for casual listening I use Sony MDR-10rc, I have the same issue with both of these headphones. I also have the same issue with my monster 24k and monster DNA.
Is this a problem? I also use a Topping NX2 headphone amplifier. The issue is there with or without the amplifier so I doubt that it is the problem.
TheDevGuy9497 said:
I use Sony MDR-XB700 over ear headphones for serious listening, for casual listening I use Sony MDR-10rc, I have the same issue with both of these headphones. I also have the same issue with my monster 24k and monster DNA.
Is this a problem? I also use a Topping NX2 headphone amplifier. The issue is there with or without the amplifier so I doubt that it is the problem.
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It also depends on that what audio file format are you listening. Most of my music is MP3 but i have couple albums in FLAC, there is noticable difference in quality between those formats, but i cant not hear big difference with DTS enabled or disabled in case of quality. Next thing is, DTS is not for everyone, it also depends on genre as you mentioned, i have some tracks which sound better with no edits, some Rock, Jezz music etc, but for Trap, Techno, Pop etc it is pleasure.
Are you using stock music player?
Music player
00471 said:
It also depends on that what audio file format are you listening. Most of my music is MP3 but i have couple albums in FLAC, there is noticable difference in quality between those formats, but i cant not hear big difference with DTS enabled or disabled in case of quality. Next thing is, DTS is not for everyone, it also depends on genre as you mentioned, i have some tracks which sound better with no edits, some Rock, Jezz music etc, but for Trap, Techno, Pop etc it is pleasure.
Are you using stock music player?
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I use Google play music. I also use FLAC and stream via GPM.
Could this be the issue
TheDevGuy9497 said:
I use Google play music. I also use FLAC and stream via GPM.
Could this be the issue
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maybe... try stock music player from huawei
I use. I think sound with DTS is more vivid.
dariusz666 said:
I use. I think sound with DTS is more vivid.
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What application do you use?
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is there any other audio app that can utilize DTS other then stock player?
as rest ITT, i use stock player with DTS for electronic music.
I switch off DTS or use another player (Black player is GREAT) for my metal and acoustic guitar needs.
loop4444 said:
is there any other audio app that can utilize DTS other then stock player?
as rest ITT, i use stock player with DTS for electronic music.
I switch off DTS or use another player (Black player is GREAT) for my metal and acoustic guitar needs.
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DTS is working with every player i tried, you just need disable in-player enhancements and equalizers
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DTS is working with every player i tried, you just need disable in-player enhancements and equalizers
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So ot works out-of-the bag, no need to enable it?
ok i see. thanks
was just hoping some other player other then stock would have the option to enable/disable it.
loop4444 said:
So ot works out-of-the bag, no need to enable it?
ok i see. thanks
was just hoping some other player other then stock would have the option to enable/disable it.
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Emui has DTS option in settings, that option applies DTS systemwide. Music player has DTS option to include or exclude DTS effect to music, some people like DTS in movies but not in Music etc.
ah i see, this it:?
https://goo.gl/photos/SHHyVgynGn3a3MDa6
cool! thanks for clearing that up mate
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ah i see, this it:?
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cool! thanks for clearing that up mate
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no problem, i was confused about that first time too, but figured it out
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Servus @ all,
end of the week i have my xda diamond
I have read many Threats about the Diamond in this Great Forum.
My Favorit Audio Codec is FLAC and my simple question it is Possible to Play FLAC Audio Files with my Diamond ?
No Windows Mobile 6 Version of Foobar or VLC exist, only a FLAC Codec for Windows CE.
Regards
Conduits Pocket Player has a FLAC plugin. It's a nice player too, probably worth the money.
CorePlayer plays FLAC too.
Built-in Media Player doesn't. (of course)
I play FLAC with Core player but the sound isn´t so good I think there´s something with decoding..and I tryied different files with same results. When I converted these files to wma the sound was better
i guess both chipset and audio-driver of the diamond aren't worth the wasted space with FLACs. even mp3s sound a lot (!) worse than on my 5 year old ipod mini.
Got no problem with sound quality of mp3s or wma..and don´t think that ipod is better And about FLAC still hope that it´s an issue of codec and not HW
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Got no problem with sound quality of mp3s or wma..and don´t think that ipod is better And about FLAC still hope that it´s an issue of codec and not HW
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I haven't done a blind test yet but I think FLAC sounds better than mp3 in Pocket Player.
Naturally it should sound better I tryied only Coreplayer n there is some little distorsion will try pocket player
Servus @ all,
THX for the Informations, about FLAC and the diamond.
Soundquality
I think the secret of FLAC is the higher Bitrate MP3 Bitrates are even lower.
This can be the Problem why the Audioquality by Playing FLAC with the Diamond
is not so good.
CPU Power has the diamond but i think it is a codec problem.
When i get my diamond this week i try this self
Best Regards @ all
So now I tryied Pocket player with Flac pocket player plugin 1.24 n it seems that it plays clear Now I only played one file so will testing more, but this one seems good for now
edited: I´m pretty sure that HW in Diamond is capable of flac decoding!!
Hmm. Strange. I always use CorePlayer on my Raphael, and FLAC seems to play fine for me.
johanromijn said:
Hmm. Strange. I always use CorePlayer on my Raphael, and FLAC seems to play fine for me.
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CorePlayer with what codec or plugin?? And when You compare the sound with 320kbs/48KHz mp3 ripped from orig audio?
Hi all..
Is there anyway to get the standard HTC mediaplayer (coverflow etc...) to play OGG files?
It works in Coreplayer but not the standard player (which is what I prefer to use).
Thanks
Sorry mate - CorePlayer or conversion. That's your options.
Thanks... that is such a shame.. I don't have many OGG's but enough to not want to convert them all again (and probably lose quality).
I'm not sure how it compares to OGGs, but MP3 can be converted to VBR as well, so it may make no difference to quality. Get a trial version of Sony Sound Forge - it'll do a batch conversion for you.
VBR?... erm as a format? MP3 generally uses a variable (VBR), average (ABR) or constant (CBR) bitrate encoding method for various types including MP3. OGG is a different format, the quality is comparable to MP3 really but I believe the files are smaller.
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VBR?... erm as a format? MP3 generally uses a variable (VBR), average (ABR) or constant (CBR) bitrate encoding method for various types including MP3. OGG is a different format, the quality is comparable to MP3 really but I believe the files are smaller.
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Yeah they are. Most people rip MP3s at a fixed bit-rate, which is why I said about VBR. That's the only reason I've used OGG before now.
I was just pointing it out in case you didn't know. File size is obviously a different story though!
Ah ok... I generally use ABR 160kbps LAME for MP3....
a an aside... my first ever MP3 was in 1997... long before the iPod etc... how times have changed
ogg's for the same size file at VBR do play a little better than mp3 - if you play them one after the other, you can hear the difference, there is more "body" somehow to an ogg. The real advantage for me is that ogg will always offer gapless playback, so if 2 or more tracks run into each other, then the ogg will play as one continuous sound, mp3 will judder as it goes from track to track.
Ogg is much better really - shame it is not supported better in "standard" players - I normally use the Pocket Player on WinMo, great player with a great range of playable formats.
rjstep3
I think I'll just convert them to MP3...
Dpes pocket player have touch screen coverflow though?.... thats one of the things I mostly miss when not using the standard HTC player (especially in the car).
busterdan said:
Dpes pocket player have touch screen coverflow though?.... thats one of the things I mostly miss when not using the standard HTC player (especially in the car).
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Not sure what you mean by coverflow. Pocket Player is finger friendly for the most part - why don't you download a trial?
rjstep3
Will do cheers for that!
Hi everyone,
When I play 720p.BluRay.X264 mkv file on my Galaxy S2 there is no sound. I tried the integrated player, mVideoPlayer and MoboPlayer. The sound track on MoboPlayer is shown as 1:6CH, 48000Hz. Do I need any audio codec to play the video with sound or there is nothing I can do to whatch theese files on my new Galaxy S2? Thanks for your answers in advance.
there is a test done before for mkv files playback..
dice player plays it the best..
sumeshd said:
there is a test done before for mkv files playback..
dice player plays it the best..
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Thanks sumeshd,
Unfortunately it is a trial version and not free. Do you know free player that will play the audio?
Check if it has DTS audio, the S2 has some trouble playing DTS audio. You should probably convert the audio to AAC or get video files that don't use DTS.
Yep, its probably DTS audio, in which case Diceplayer is what you need. Its well worth the price I think.
ssstoyanov said:
When I play 720p.BluRay.X264 mkv file on my Galaxy S2 there is no sound. I tried the integrated player, mVideoPlayer and MoboPlayer. The sound track on MoboPlayer is shown as 1:6CH, 48000Hz.
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Most likely the audio-stream is encoded with DTS, which isn´t supported by the Galaxy S II.
It can play AAC, MP3 or AC3.
Do I need any audio codec to play the video with sound or there is nothing I can do to whatch theese files on my new Galaxy S2? Thanks for your answers in advance.
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You can´t install any media-codecs on Android, like you can do it in Windows.
Obviously mediaplayers can bring their own decoders, but this means decoding on the CPU, which is slow and eats much more battery-power.
So it is best to encode the audio-stream in one of the supported formats
Thanks everyone. I will purchase Dice Player, tested and the audio works great.
Lol, but dice player is lagging... tried to watch another movie with dice player.. it lagged again
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jojo2peter said:
Lol, but dice player is lagging... tried to watch another movie with dice player.. it lagged again
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You mean video and audio is not synchronous?
That´s because, it plays video and audio separately. Basically the Player uses the media-framework to play the video without sound, so it can use the DSP.
Then it plays the sound separately, using a built in software-decoder.
This most likely also means reading the file twice, although some caching maybe prevents the need to actually read it twice from the permanent storage.
So it is a quite inefficient way to play the video. The player doesn´t know the internal timings of the media-framework, so it doesn´t really know when to play the audio. But most players should allow to set a custom audio-delay.
It is also possible that there simply isn´t enough CPU-power left to do the decoding in software.
jojo2peter said:
Lol, but dice player is lagging... tried to watch another movie with dice player.. it lagged again
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could you post your movie file info? and what is the diceplayer's version?
There are some known problems to play HD MKVs.
1. 24bit Flac Audio is not supported
2. microsd card class ( transfer rate ) issue.
3. Wrong MKV time stamp issue.
LightspeedGalaxy said:
You mean video and audio is not synchronous?
That´s because, it plays video and audio separately. Basically the Player uses the media-framework to play the video without sound, so it can use the DSP.
Then it plays the sound separately, using a built in software-decoder.
This most likely also means reading the file twice, although some caching maybe prevents the need to actually read it twice from the permanent storage.
So it is a quite inefficient way to play the video. The player doesn´t know the internal timings of the media-framework, so it doesn´t really know when to play the audio. But most players should allow to set a custom audio-delay.
It is also possible that there simply isn´t enough CPU-power left to do the decoding in software.
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i think that lag is not sync problem.
is there any chcance to play flac files on DHD? it was impossible some time ago, how it looks today..
Well, there are several FLAC-cappable players on the market...
PowerAmp music player.
hi guys..thanks for your anwsers..i was thinking about stock player, i mean.. i want to stream flacs to my Denon AVR..
The stock player won't play them. Not compatible. May have to look into a 3rd party app
poweramp play them..but i think i cant stream them to denon..
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poweramp play them..but i think i cant stream them to denon..
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Only via a Blutooth module ( not by Dennon oddly by there sister company Marantz )
Try something called a " Qed uPlay Blutooth reviver "
Sol
Strange!
The player in CM7 plays .flac files fine..
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Strange!
The player in CM7 plays .flac files fine..
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Not that strange with a little research. It is known that CM Roms use a 3rd party player and codex that the stock player doesn't support those codex. Reason why it was suggested to use a 3rd party player
Hi,
I was hoping to have that option as well on the other ROMS, but it is CM7 is the only one that supports it.
No complaints here, happy for the ROMS available.
Well, im use mobo player for play .flac file
is it option for stream files over wifi on mobo?
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Only via a Blutooth module ( not by Dennon oddly by there sister company Marantz )
Try something called a " Qed uPlay Blutooth reviver "
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i know.. i was using it before..
For music playback I use PowerAMP
For streaming media i use iMediaShare, a bonus that its free on the market. Not sure if this will stream flac though. Its an excellent bi-directional upnp/dlna streamer.
imedia cant see flac files..unfortunately..
I convert my flac files to ogg using freac, works like a charm. Ogg is to said to have better quality at 192kbps then mp3 has at 320kbps and also these ogg files are smaller then mp3 which results in saving space.
Also I got for almost every music album a cover.
How about BubbleUpnp?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891
market link
https://market.android.com/details?...vbS5idWJibGVzb2Z0LmFuZHJvaWQuYnViYmxldXBucCJd
Looks like FLAC is supported however unsure if this includes FLAC streaming though
I bought a new Sony Ericsson MW600 Bluetooth headset and I'm getting audio delay by one second when watching video, I can tell as the lip movements don't match.
Affected players:
MoboPlayer
MX Player
BS Player
XBMC
I have tried a combination of HW/SW modes but this doesn't make a difference. XBMC does have an audio sync slider, but this is extremely awkward to adjust with the very small buttons/sliders in the UI.
On the other hand, there are no audio delays in Play Movies for the Transformers movie, nor in Dice Player. But Dice Player is not my preferred video player.
Any solutions to this? Is there something in Dice Player that fixes it, and is up to developers of other players to implement this "fix"?
Thanks
Salty Wagyu said:
I bought a new Sony Ericsson MW600 Bluetooth headset and I'm getting audio delay by one second when watching video, I can tell as the lip movements don't match.
Affected players:
MoboPlayer
MX Player
BS Player
XBMC
I have tried a combination of HW/SW modes but this doesn't make a difference. XBMC does have an audio sync slider, but this is extremely awkward to adjust with the very small buttons/sliders in the UI.
On the other hand, there are no audio delays in Play Movies for the Transformers movie, nor in Dice Player. But Dice Player is not my preferred video player.
Any solutions to this? Is there something in Dice Player that fixes it, and is up to developers of other players to implement this "fix"?
Thanks
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I just tried my bluetooth audio headset (it's actually a bluetooth transceiver which connects to my hearing aids), and Dice Player has a big delay - just like all the other players.
I did a quick search for XBMC in the market/play store, but couldn't find the video player - got a link to it by chance, please? I'd love to try the sliders.
Cheers,
Richard.
RADiuMOz said:
I just tried my bluetooth audio headset (it's actually a bluetooth transceiver which connects to my hearing aids), and Dice Player has a big delay - just like all the other players.
I did a quick search for XBMC in the market/play store, but couldn't find the video player - got a link to it by chance, please? I'd love to try the sliders.
Cheers,
Richard.
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XBMC is still in beta so it's not on Play yet, got mine from the OP's links in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772433
Also tried a few other players, Rock Player and QQ Player, same problems :/
Unless they've improved bt with video in the last three years, you cannot use bt headphones when watching videos. It introduces a delay with audio. This isn't noticeable when simply listening to music as there is nothing to look at. Same with voice calls.
I was super bummed years ago when I bought quality bt headphones and found this it. Regular wireless headphones have so much static.
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I hope apt-x would be incorporated in future kernels.
Salty Wagyu said:
XBMC is still in beta so it's not on Play yet, got mine from the OP's links in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772433
Also tried a few other players, Rock Player and QQ Player, same problems :/
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Thanks for that: just tried it, and it is fiddly, that's for sure.
I also found that although you can almost get audio in sync, in XBMC, it seems to drift, so the more you play, the further out of sync it goes - I guess this will be fixed in a future release.
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Unless they've improved bt with video in the last three years, you cannot use bt headphones when watching videos. It introduces a delay with audio. This isn't noticeable when simply listening to music as there is nothing to look at. Same with voice calls.
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Well I'm not sure, it seems watchable on my HTC Desire with MX player when I tried it just now, the audio delay on that is roughly 0.2 secs - you can't notice it unless you tried to.
Even a generic search on Google such as "bluetooth audio delay" brings up a few results, mostly to the Asus transformer. And funnily enough the Nexus 7 is an Asus device so I'm wondering if there's a relation in the BT hardware used. Not good.
leebo said:
Unless they've improved bt with video in the last three years, you cannot use bt headphones when watching videos. It introduces a delay with audio. This isn't noticeable when simply listening to music as there is nothing to look at. Same with voice calls.
I was super bummed years ago when I bought quality bt headphones and found this it. Regular wireless headphones have so much static.
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Works GREAT for me. I encode the video (x264 video & AAC audio) myself with Handbrake and use the STOCK video player. No issues.
Just tried
STOCK no issues
MX no issues
Dice no issues
BS audio lag
I use a MW600, there is no delay when using Dog Catcher to watch mp4 podcasts.
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Hemidroids said:
Works GREAT for me. I encode the video (x264 video & AAC audio) myself with Handbrake and use the STOCK video player. No issues.
Just tried
STOCK no issues
MX no issues
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If you don't mind me asking, which settings do you use, please? E.g. video-size, bitrates, etc.
Hemidroids said:
Works GREAT for me. I encode the video (x264 video & AAC audio) myself with Handbrake and use the STOCK video player. No issues.
Just tried
STOCK no issues
MX no issues
Dice no issues
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I bet it's different when you playback an SD encoded file e.g. Xvids, have you tried one?
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If you don't mind me asking, which settings do you use, please? E.g. video-size, bitrates, etc.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29232388&postcount=12
I dont change the resolution at all
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I bet it's different when you playback an SD encoded file e.g. Xvids, have you tried one?
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xvid is a thing of the past and scene release no longer supported.
Stock player SD xvid .avi does not play
Stock player SD (new scene format x264 MP4) No issue
Dice SD xvid .avi No issue
MX SD xvid .avi Lag
BS SD xvid .avi Lag
So if you want to play xvid bluetooth Dice does the job.
Thanks for the Handbrake details.
I'd also be interested to see whether Jelly Bean exhibits this blue tooth audio delay.
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xvid is a thing of the past and scene release no longer supported.
Stock player SD xvid .avi does not play
Stock player SD (new scene format x264 MP4) No issue
Dice SD xvid .avi No issue
MX SD xvid .avi Lag
BS SD xvid .avi Lag
So if you want to play xvid bluetooth Dice does the job.
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That matches my experience 100%, I have to use Dice Player too for SD content.
Yeah I should move on from xvid but still got a lot of older content to get through first!
Hemidroids said:
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I dont change the resolution at all
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I just tried these settings in Handbrake, and no go for me Looks like I'll have to keep hunting.
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I just tried these settings in Handbrake, and no go for me Looks like I'll have to keep hunting.
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Windows or Linux?
Linux for me and no issues.
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Windows or Linux?
Linux for me and no issues.
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Windows. It's quite possible I did something wrong. I'm also using an Asus Infinity, and your settings were tested on Nexus 7, weren't they?
I'm new (as in, yesterday) to Handbrake, but it looks like you can export/import profiles - perhaps you could export your profile and I could try that? Would be good to have something which others can import and use to get around this problem. I'm still hoping Jelly Bean might somehow miraculously fix this bug.
I have lag with the bs player but the stock player and the player with es explorer play mp4s off my flash drive with no lag.I am using a Samsung hs3000 headset.
There must be a media player that allow audio-video sync to be set manually. To the millisecs. Is there?