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Best Video player for 3GP

Can you give me a list of the best video players? My main interest is to use 3GP. I think this format will be the most popular if it is not now. Anyway, will WM open 3GP? Can you give me a list of the choices. Like
1)TCMP video
2)Windows Media Player
3) real video PPC player (i dont think many use this)
What about Divx format? This format seems larger file size then 3GP. What is the best bang for the buck format?
Also, what is the most efficent compression format for audio? MP3? Or does WMA compress better? I am looking for audible quality, but best for file size. For instance audio book.
I have a 2G sim, but it is filling up fast with all the fun I am having
Thanks for your input!

TCPMP can do the job
I tried once with video from 6230, it works fine; it also plays divx

yea, now i been using TCMP, i am used to it. I think it is the best I can find so far. I am surprised how poorly windows media works. For MP3 i heard mortplayer, which i will check out.

FLAC Audio and the Diamond

Servus @ all,
end of the week i have my xda diamond
I have read many Threats about the Diamond in this Great Forum.
My Favorit Audio Codec is FLAC and my simple question it is Possible to Play FLAC Audio Files with my Diamond ?
No Windows Mobile 6 Version of Foobar or VLC exist, only a FLAC Codec for Windows CE.
Regards

Conduits Pocket Player has a FLAC plugin. It's a nice player too, probably worth the money.

CorePlayer plays FLAC too.
Built-in Media Player doesn't. (of course)

I play FLAC with Core player but the sound isn´t so good I think there´s something with decoding..and I tryied different files with same results. When I converted these files to wma the sound was better

i guess both chipset and audio-driver of the diamond aren't worth the wasted space with FLACs. even mp3s sound a lot (!) worse than on my 5 year old ipod mini.

Got no problem with sound quality of mp3s or wma..and don´t think that ipod is better And about FLAC still hope that it´s an issue of codec and not HW

tommm said:
Got no problem with sound quality of mp3s or wma..and don´t think that ipod is better And about FLAC still hope that it´s an issue of codec and not HW
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I haven't done a blind test yet but I think FLAC sounds better than mp3 in Pocket Player.

Naturally it should sound better I tryied only Coreplayer n there is some little distorsion will try pocket player

Servus @ all,
THX for the Informations, about FLAC and the diamond.
Soundquality
I think the secret of FLAC is the higher Bitrate MP3 Bitrates are even lower.
This can be the Problem why the Audioquality by Playing FLAC with the Diamond
is not so good.
CPU Power has the diamond but i think it is a codec problem.
When i get my diamond this week i try this self
Best Regards @ all

So now I tryied Pocket player with Flac pocket player plugin 1.24 n it seems that it plays clear Now I only played one file so will testing more, but this one seems good for now
edited: I´m pretty sure that HW in Diamond is capable of flac decoding!!

Hmm. Strange. I always use CorePlayer on my Raphael, and FLAC seems to play fine for me.

johanromijn said:
Hmm. Strange. I always use CorePlayer on my Raphael, and FLAC seems to play fine for me.
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CorePlayer with what codec or plugin?? And when You compare the sound with 320kbs/48KHz mp3 ripped from orig audio?

A camcorder app to record to avi or mpg?

the 3pg container is horrible to deal with. Only thing that seems to play it is quicktime. And its a pain to convert constantly.
Why can't android record video to a normal forward that universally works on all media players. Like Avi or Mpg ?

digitallysick said:
the 3pg container is horrible to deal with. Only thing that seems to play it is quicktime. And its a pain to convert constantly.
Why can't android record video to a normal forward that universally works on all media players. Like Avi or Mpg ?
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The G1 lacks the hardware required to record to mpeg.
The G1 lacks the software to mux into another container than 3gp.
3gp was designed to be used as a container for mobile phones, due to lower storage and bandwidth requirements.
The G1 records video that can be played back on almost any 3G phone.

digitallysick said:
the 3pg container is horrible to deal with. Only thing that seems to play it is quicktime. And its a pain to convert constantly.
Why can't android record video to a normal forward that universally works on all media players. Like Avi or Mpg ?
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*EVERY* media player I've tried works fine with it.
mplayer, xine, vlc, etc.
How many media players do you need?
And no, what you propose would be a really bad thing; 1) AVI is about the CRAPPIEST container that ever existed -- makes NO provision for A/V synchronization, so you better damned well hope that the audio matches the video or it'll look like a really old kung-fu movie. 2) MPG container is NOT SUITABLE for anything besides mpeg2/MPA, so scratch that idea.
If you really want to put it in a different container, mencoder or ffmpeg will do that for you without even transcoding. You could even do it right on the phone since there is virtually no CPU overhead.

Galaxy s media player

Had anyone used the galaxy s media player yet?
Is fantastic compared to the media player that was on my hero, and also far better than anything that I have downloaded from the market too.
After 12 months,i finally have a fully functioning and customisable eq on my android device.
Very impressed with this phone in all aspects.
Is the dogs danglies!
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Agreed.... I thought my HD2 player was very good but this one is simply superb.
Plays all my files without a hitch

Hi,
Does the player allow you to see embedded images in podcasts?
can you skip chapters on podcasts?
Thanks.

does it play flac and vbr aac? Alac?

yes this is really a nice and great and fast media player and i love the EQ and sound quality (I keep it on wide =D and custom EQ)

is the organization of tracks as good on the HTCs???
on my i8000 Omnia II for instance, when u go the the "artist" tab, all the artist's songs are just packed there, instead of showing "Albums", which sucks imo...

Does it play unedited 720p and 1080p files. I know there is no point due to screen resolution but it will give an idea about the performance capability of the device.

Mine plays unedited 720p .avi files fine, doesn't seem to like 1080p, but then I've only tried over allshare. I might try copying one to the actual drive and see what happens. Mind you, to my mind, flawless 720p playback from my server upstairs on my phone in the garden is damn near magical anyway .
I seem to be less lucky with .mov, they won't play. Not sure where the files originally came from though, they were Iron Man 2 and, um, something else (Ice Age maybe) trailers in 800x480 mov format. Are we meant to be able to play .mov files on this thing?

umm can anyone rip the app and post it here ? or is that illegal ?

How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?

What app do you recommend to transfer albums too it ? Where we could perhaps edit the tagged data too?
I've tried using WMP but its clunky and seems to either want to sync everything or have trouble syncing anything?
Ideally I would just like to view whats on the device and edit the alum name, album art etc.
I've seen this http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt & http://www.getsongbird.com/ but never used them before. I loved sharepod for apple devices - I'd like the equivalent

Barkotron said:
Mine plays unedited 720p .avi files fine, doesn't seem to like 1080p, but then I've only tried over allshare. I might try copying one to the actual drive and see what happens. Mind you, to my mind, flawless 720p playback from my server upstairs on my phone in the garden is damn near magical anyway .
I seem to be less lucky with .mov, they won't play. Not sure where the files originally came from though, they were Iron Man 2 and, um, something else (Ice Age maybe) trailers in 800x480 mov format. Are we meant to be able to play .mov files on this thing?
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Video codecs
mpeg4
H.264
H.263
Sorenson codec
DivX HD/ XviD
VC-1
Video formats
3GP (MPEG-4)
WMV (Advanced Systems Format)
AVI (divx)
MKV
FLV
I'm 1 for 2 on 1080p to my tv via Allshare, the fail played but was extremely choppy then quit. The success took a second to load, then stopped, then played from that point on without a hitch (maybe a 3 min test though, don't know about a whole movie)
MichaelWestin said:
How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?
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It plays them, MKVs can look simply marvelous.
dizzle118 said:
What app do you recommend to transfer albums too it ? Where we could perhaps edit the tagged data too?
I've tried using WMP but its clunky and seems to either want to sync everything or have trouble syncing anything?
Ideally I would just like to view whats on the device and edit the alum name, album art etc.
I've seen this http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt & http://www.getsongbird.com/ but never used them before. I loved sharepod for apple devices - I'd like the equivalent
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DoubleTwist doesn't import FLAC, so I can't call it ideal for an audio junky, that's its biggest flaw as a music transfer (I'm not in love with the software, but it's not bad).

Does the Galaxy S media player come on carrier branded phones? I didn't anything obvious on my captivate.

It plays almost all the formats I own.
Both 720p avi as well as 720p mkv work splendidly. But a huge problem if your into Anime releases. It has a problem with displaying the subs from the mkv files.
avi releases work (the subs are after all embedded in the video)...

Archius said:
yes this is really a nice and great and fast media player and i love the EQ and sound quality (I keep it on wide =D and custom EQ)
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+2 on the player
its an exceptional player
eq better than anything on any device anywhere
the auto eq (i think it reads idtags of files for genre and applies corresponding eq preset) is amazing. I wish i can edit presets tho for the auto eq.
the 5.1 SRS made the already exceptional soundstage of my triplefi even more amazing.
my niggles would be slight in that it doesnt support press twice to next track and press thrice to go back from the inline mic button.
Btw, anybody went and check the service for the mediaplayer
i saw coreplayer service active, but i have no knowledge of coreplayer being ported to android. AFAIK, coreplayer is still purely a winmo app, and a very good one at that, maybe the best in winmo.
But if the one on the SGS is really coreplayer, then it should be good

Galaxy Vibrant subtitles video
vijaykanth said:
It plays almost all the formats I own.
Both 720p avi as well as 720p mkv work splendidly. But a huge problem if your into Anime releases. It has a problem with displaying the subs from the mkv files.
avi releases work (the subs are after all embedded in the video)...
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Extract the ass/ssa file from the video (videohelp.com or use just use mkvtoolnix), save it with the same title as the video file, upload both on the phone (SD or Internal memory). Download mVideoPlayer from the market and play the file. I tried it myself yesterday. It works I tried seitokai yakuindomo from [Ayako] at 720p.
Enjoy

Dunno if I'm as big of a fan of the media player...
When I try to open a .wmv I get either 'File type wmv not found' (in Astro file manager) or when it does try to open (when opening it in root explorer) a 'Not supported file type' message... This for multiple different wmv's (they play fine in rockplayer btw).
Also the same for an .mp4 file. A 'This video can not be played' message...
Anyone else with the same issues? Rockplayer plays all my files perfectly but if the built in app could do the same that would be great...

k2snowboards88 said:
does it play flac and vbr aac? Alac?
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From the Samsung Specs page:
Music
Music Player with SoundAlive
3.5mm Ear Jack
MP3/AAC/AAC+/eAAC+/OGG/WMA/AMR-NB/AMR-WB/WAV/
MID/AC3/IMY/FLAC/XMF
Mine doesn't play WAV Files, at least not the one that I tried, so who knows?

MichaelWestin said:
How does it handle Xvid/Divx and MKV scene releases?
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Depends on resolution and bitrate of course. It can easily play XviD DVD rips and such.

where are the playlists stored?

[Q] IconiaTab or Kindle?

Ok, the tagline is misleading...
I picked up an A500 about a week ago and still trying to decide if I want to keep it. Primarily, I wanted it for reading. At this it does pretty good, tried a few eReader apps and settled on Moon+. So, it satisfies my reading requirement BUT as an android tablet I expect more. It is supposed to play audio and video files but I find that android is rather crummy at that. It will only play .mp3's for audio, 95% of my music is in lossless WMA. For video, it only plays .mp4. All my video is either mpg, avi or wmv. So it seems an android tablet kinda stinks for entertainment purposes.
So, I hit the forums here and started looking for info and alternatives. I heard some other apps would work. I downloaded winamp, poweramp and playerpro and none of them would play my wma files.
For video, I downloaded Moboplayer (had good reviews here) and Arcmedia. Arcmedia just totally croaked on all files. Moboplayer would play wmv but the sound was completely hosed. Moboplayer did play mpg's and mkv's ok though, but again most of my video is wmv. Sure wish VLC worked on android.
So, right now it looks like the only thing this tablet is really good for is reading books. For that I could just get a nook or something and save some money. I wont even mention gps, thats another thread.
So have I missed something or are android tabs just lame for entertainment (only playing mp3/mp4)?
PS
Yes I know others have asked similar questions. Sorry for the redundancy, but perhaps some progress has been made that isnt on the forum.

They are OK but you have a lot of files in Windows Media Audio or Video format which is IMHO badly supported on Android phones.
Did you try RockPlayer? Some people report good results with that but I don't have any WMA or WMW files anywhere to try it out.

So your Android device has major problems playing Microsoft DRM'd proprietary files... I am not the least bit surprised, as licinsing would be expensive, and not Open Source. Mine plays all my ogg audio, AVC/AC3, AVC/OGG, Mpeg4/OGG, Mpeg4/MP3, etc. just fine. Of course it can't do all the video natively (I suspect the MKV parser is a dud, as it can decode properly the same streams from an mp4), but Moboplayer handles those just fine. The problen you are going to continue to have is expecting MS codecs to play nice on Android devices. Maybe find one that advertises WMA/WMV support?

Try RockPlayer for video.
It has run everything I have thrown at it.
As far as your music collection, I have not seen a lot of support for wma anywhere outside of a microsoft product (windows, zune, xbox, etc)
You might want to bite the bullet and convert those to a more sustainable format.
Also, even though you have found a book reader, try Aldikio. I love it. I just wish it had syncing options...though those are supposedly in the works.

Best Players for Android Honeycomb are:
Doubletwist Player and Moboplayer.
Give these a try. Moboplayer has codecs inside of it should it SHOULD be able to play anything.....and its FREE.

you could also try handbrake to convert your video files into a more android friendly format. However, no matter what you end up doing, the Iconia is going to run circles around a Kindle any day of the week.

Rumor is that Amazon will be coming out with a couple of android tablet in the next few months. Surely before Christmas if they are.
As for WMA lossless very few players can handle it out of the 50 or so I have reviewed for my blog. Check the Android market for "WMA player". You might get lucky.

Thanks for the info all !
Didnt have much luck with rockplayer either
(Moboplayer says it will do wma, but if you dig a little deeper it says it cant do the lossless wma)
Oh well, I certainly cant put my whole audio/video collection on a tablet anyway so I could just occasionally convert some files to put on it in a format it can handle. BTW, these files are not drm'd they even play on my "dumb" phone.
As far as ebook apps, I did try Aldiko and liked it but what kinda killed it for me was that it cant do annotations.

perry59, your biggest issue is that you've chosen to use a Microsoft's own proprietary format that simply isn't supported too well anywhere, and the reason for that is that Microsoft requires a hefty sum of money in licensing deals for the support.
FLAC is probably the most widely-supported lossless audio codec these days, so unless there's some very specific reason for you to keep using WMA you could transcode all your audio files to FLAC.
H.264/.mp4 also seems the most ubiquitous video codec+container, but I admit that transcoding all your video files from one lossy codec to another is not only messy and time-consuming, but it also loses on the picture quality a little. However, if you do decide to just transcode videos for the tablet every now and then and keep the original files you could use Handbrake or Cyberlink MediaEspresso; Handbrake does the transcoding in software so it takes quite a bit longer, MediaEspresso does it in hardware if you have an Nvidia CUDA-compatible card or ATI Stream one.

Mp3 is best format small in size at same time high on quality use it instead
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umanko said:
Mp3 is best format small in size at same time high on quality use it instead
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Mp3 is a lossy format, the OP chose a lossless format for a reason.

Try VPlayer for videos
VPlayer is the best video player for Android.
Video formats: divx/xvid, wmv, m4v, flv, rmvb, avi, mkv, mov, mp4, 3gp, ts, tp...
Streaming: http, rtsp, mms and m3u(apple http stream, m3u8
https://market.android.com/details?id=me.abitno.vplayer.t&feature=more_from_developer
Only free for 7days, altho it is only like £3

To identify qualty difference with ears u need very high quakity speakers which might cost more then tab itself
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umanko said:
To identify qualty difference with ears u need very high quakity speakers which might cost more then tab itself
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It's a lot easier with headphones as there's no echo from the walls around you, the furniture doesn't affect the sound, and finding headphones with wide frequency response area isn't difficult.