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I recently purchased a gigabyte motherboard (z97x-gaming5) and it is supposed to have fast charging when your phone is connected to the usb ports. Gigabyte advertises 3x power for its usb. Well the most I've been able to get with my S5 is 450ma on usb 2 or 900ma on usb3 (using the galaxy charging current lite app). Definitely not the 3x usb that the board supposedly can put out. I think there may be a problem with the board detecting my phone because it says no phone connected and that the hardware doesn't support USB fast charging. Anyone have this problem before? I know I can just use the wall charger but that defeats the point of charging and copying files/backing up at the same time. I've included a picture of the on/off charger program and the message it tells me. Oh by the way, I'm using the Samsung USB driver v1.5.42.0. Thanks for any help.
Seemingly there's no support for the "official" 1,5A mode, only the special 2A mode, which is Apple iPad compatible, methinks.
And 900mA, always wanted to test that with my Note 10.1 2014, which I have much longer than the S5, but never found the time.
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Seemingly there's no support for the "official" 1,5A mode, only the special 2A mode, which is Apple iPad compatible, methinks.
And 900mA, always wanted to test that with my Note 10.1 2014, which I have much longer than the S5, but never found the time.
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So it sounds like its only apple compatible? Bummer
If there's an Apple tool or a compatibility setting for the port(s) it may work at 1,4 or 1,5A, as Apple too has such a mode.
as i suffered around the internet looking for fast charge in oneplus 2.... people had two comments over this issue
1. oneplus didn't bought the liscense from QUALQUAMM for FAST CHARGING...!!
2. oneplus 2 didnt had the hardware support...!!
apart from this these things i also know that the cable and charger isn't enough for fast charging....!!
things to know:
1. cable isn't capable of delivering the necessary power for fast charging... check below
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/16/9742360/oneplus-usb-type-c-cable-adapter
2. the charger that oneplus provided is a (5v , 2A) charger which common now a days
things that need to tested by the developers:
does the DASH CHARGER work on the oneplus 2..??
CONCLUSION:
If oneplus didn't had the license agreement of QUALLQUAMM QUICK CHARGE last year since due to the money issue or due to the delay of this DASH CHARGE tech which should have came by last year........!!! so now the company has the tech of its own.... so why cant they give an update to the oneplus 2 and allow users to use DASH CHARGE...!
" dont say that ONEPLUS 2 dont have the hardware things.... it has it...."
"IF ONEPLUS give the DASH CHARGE to ONEPLUS 2 over an update it gonna stand till"
i had the same thoughts !! let me have a look at kernel sources released for oneplus 3 ! may i can make it work !
thanks ! will report back soon ! for both hardware and software updates !
How do we know the USB-C port hardware on the OnePlus 2 is designed for 5V/4A? It might be designed only for 5V/2A in which case, using 4Amps will kill the port entirely and ruin the device. Design decisions like these are thought out months before production.
Dash Charge is basically OPPO's VOOC Charging.
The major difference in the USB C port being, is that it contains 7 pins, instead of the standard 5 pin layout. There are two extra power pins. That is why it requires both the adapter AND the cable, while Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 can work with any cable.
So no, it is not going to work with Oneplus 2. It's not a software feature that you can just enable.
ts1506 said:
Dash Charge is basically OPPO's VOOC Charging.
The major difference in the USB C port being, is that it contains 7 pins, instead of the standard 5 pin layout. There are two extra power pins. That is why it requires both the adapter AND the cable, while Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 can work with any cable.
So no, it is not going to work with Oneplus 2. It's not a software feature that you can just enable.
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There is nothing like what you are saying.....!! It's a software update and a hardware change which is changing the charger and the data cable.... check out the power delivery of the qualquamm quick charger vs the oneplus 2 charger.....
Yes it's a software and a hardware change.
Change your current hardware (phone) for a hardware that support quick or dash charge.
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what will happen if i charge my one plus 2, whose earlier charger was 5V and 2 Amp and now dash charger is 5V and 4Amp. will it damage my phone.
I have tested the dash charger with the OnePlus 2. Nothing spectuacular happens besides the fact I have topped 2 amps for the first time using the Dash charger. The OnePlus limit for charging is 2 amps. Usually I get 1,2 - 1,8 amps on a regular 2 amp charger. The OnePlus 2 charges a little bit quicker and more stable with the Dash charger, but thats about it. Don't ever expect the same speed as on the 3 and 3T.
Charging current depends on battery level you only get 2A at nearly empty level then drops little by little
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thiyagatrev said:
as i suffered around the internet looking for fast charge in oneplus 2.... people had two comments over this issue
1. oneplus didn't bought the liscense from QUALQUAMM for FAST CHARGING...!!
2. oneplus 2 didnt had the hardware support...!!
apart from this these things i also know that the cable and charger isn't enough for fast charging....!!
things to know:
1. cable isn't capable of delivering the necessary power for fast charging... check below
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/16/9742360/oneplus-usb-type-c-cable-adapter
2. the charger that oneplus provided is a (5v , 2A) charger which common now a days
things that need to tested by the developers:
does the DASH CHARGER work on the oneplus 2..??
CONCLUSION:
If oneplus didn't had the license agreement of QUALLQUAMM QUICK CHARGE last year since due to the money issue or due to the delay of this DASH CHARGE tech which should have came by last year........!!! so now the company has the tech of its own.... so why cant they give an update to the oneplus 2 and allow users to use DASH CHARGE...!
" dont say that ONEPLUS 2 dont have the hardware things.... it has it...."
"IF ONEPLUS give the DASH CHARGE to ONEPLUS 2 over an update it gonna stand till"
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I guess they might have limited the current to prevent overheating. It heats up like hell even without fast /dash charge
It confuses me why a phone with a USB Type-C port would ship with a Type-A to C charging system. Beyond mere speculation, does anyone have information on why this was done? It doesn't make sense to me.
Also, has anyone tried a Nexus/Pixel type-c charger with the OP5? How are the charging speeds on those?
Thx
Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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I've read places that OnePlus moved the fast charging tech from the phone side to the charging brick side. This is what also allows the phone/battery not to heat up during charging. It don't think the phones could handle charging at these speeds without frying the phone (phone would fry an egg) if the tech was still inside the phone.
All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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This is what really gets me. Lots of people have QuickCharge chargers from other phones over the years, and it's easily supported by the hardware OP uses.
Dash Charge and Quick Charge are different things. Each technology needs different hardware to work.
Quick Charge was created by Qualcomm and it's used by the best Android phones (Samsung, Nexus, Pixel, etc)... it's slower than Dash and manufacturers need to pay a fee to Qualcomm when they use their technology. We can find support on power banks, car chargers, usb hubs, computers, etc.
Dash Charge was created by OPPO, Oneplus parent company... I guess this and the need to save money are the two main reasons for them to use Dash over QC.
Dash is faster because it moves some hardware from the phone to the charger. This way the heat generated by the higher voltage and amperage is "stored" on the charger allowing the phone to receive more energy and charge faster. The downside is that it's almost impossible to find compatible power banks, usb cables, chargers, etc.
There is also some concerns from users about the battery life... Oneplus says there's no problem, but everyone knows that charging batteries very fast is bad for their lives... anyway, most of us don't keep the phone for more than 1 or 2 years.
Then there is the "normal" charging, used by Apple and by cheap phones and usually can go up to 5v ~ 2.4a. This is also what the OP3/3T/5 uses when we don't use the original cable+charger.
Apple for example cannot use QC because they make their own CPU and don't use Qualcomms chips. Samsung also have a different tech they use on phones running on a Exynos processor.
tl:dr:
Quick Charge: from Qualcomm, slower, the "smart" hardware is on the phone, hotter phone during charging, colder charger, way more popular;
Dash Charge: from OPPO, faster, the "smart" hardware is on the charger, colder phone during charging, hotter charger, only OPPO and Oneplus use it;
Normal charging: it's slower, there is no special hardware needed, works with everything;
Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
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The 'fast charging' message was a bug. Congrats. U just waste money
Sad to break it to you, but the phone doesn't support Quick Charge 3.0
Who except pajeet analphabete on Indian blog said it was supposed to get QC?
I've read that one of the Oreo beta builds had quick charging enabled by mistake and Xiaomi removed it later, this is when/where rumors started. No idea if that's true though..
There is a quite big difference between "fast charge" and "quick charge" (by qualcomm). Quick Charge will not be enabled on those phones as qualcomm wants money for each device that uses it. However in oreo we have "fast charge" enabled.... also to have quick charge you'll need charger that has the qualcomm chip in it... and for the fast charge again you'll need charger that supports fast charge(basically that it is more powerful - 34W and up).
And remember it is android one device so it is as close to the aosp as possible and many of the settings are up to google to change (like the cam api 2)
I don't get the fuss around this "fast" charge "enabled" thingy. I'm using a nexus 5x charger since day 0 (back when only displayed "charging") because i've bought it as a replacement for my nexus 5x.
So, the output of the 5x charger has 3A . Now pay attention, the A1 (at least mine and i don't think i got a special edition) was charging with 2A out of the box (nougat) and also after oreo update, period.
Mi a1 does have sd625 which supports fast charging but xiaomi hasnt enabled it cause enabling that will make xiaomi pay some loyalty to snapdragon. So they didn't enable it. NO FAST CHARGING ON MI A1
This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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nope.
pendragon666 said:
This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
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Redmi note 5 has the icon of fast charging with micro usb, but Mi A1 with usb C does not, lol. My phone Mi A1 charges fully within 1 hour from 1%(would say... 40min) with an aukey QC 3.0 and a blitzwolf amp usb cable.
bastienff said:
Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
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Don't worry about people bragging ie lying about how their phones charge up faster with quick charge. Or some sort of forced charging is going on which isn't good for the lifespan of the battery. Samsung allows users to turn off fast charging in the settings to reduce excessive heat which says something about fast charging.
So you guys are saying it doesn't support Quick Charge™. But I just downloaded CPU-Z for fun and it read the fact that the MI A1 - My unit at least runs Snapdragon 626 as opposed to what GSMArena says (625) and according to this article it is supposed to support it. I don't have a fast enough charger - Never thought I'd need one since the phone supposedly doesn't support fast charging, but if it runs 626 it might. If I can edit this post I'll add a screenshot from the phone in a moment.
Can't seem to add the screen shot, so here's the link to it:
https://imgur.com/a/PhgdBME
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With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
The phone has the available hardware for fast charging but xiaomi disabled it, it should be coming soon in oreo or pie
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
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I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
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I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
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depends on your charger. :good:
Dang, I JUST BOUGHT 5. QC3 chargers!!!
... I just read on some other forms that the mean one supports fast charging qc3 charger I bought a bunch of chargers. does anyone know will queue c3 chargers work on all types of phones and devices even if they don't have any Qualcomm chip in them will they still charge at your 1 amp or 2 amp speed?? and that's question does anybody know what happened to the license agreement between called come and show me about working out the deal to get the Alt-X low-latency and the Ap-X codec license agreement???
I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.
tekweezle said:
I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.
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Their threads on this.
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A device like yhis Xdragon USB voltmeter might be helpful in debugging issues with charging.
Right now I am connected to a Samsung adaptive fast charger that can pull 9 volts but currently just pulling in 4.78 volts and about 700 mAh. At that rate will take about 5 to 6 hours to fully charge the 4200 mAh battery in the Leeco
tekweezle said:
I have read from various sources about the Leeco 727 dying a premature death due to burn out of the charger port. Some theories attribute it to bad Leeco supplied charging adapter or cable or faulty motherboard.
I tried a bunch of different wall adapters and cables to see if I could make some sense of it. What I noticed is that only with the Leeco supplied unit and an Anker dual port unit do I get any semblance of fast charging. There is no indicator on screen. I can only go by time observation.
Charging with other fast charge adapters seem to charge at a slower pace at 5 volt. From what I can see using a USB port tester is that when something charges at fast charge, it charges at 9 volt. I used a Samsung adapter and one from an orbic wonder which are definitely fast charge capable. They charge my old Motorola G4 at "turbo power" and a Note 4 at "fast charge".
I bought a unit from Allmaybe that has visual lcd of power consumption and it clocked down to a lower voltage after tripping the overpower indicator.
Maybe we need to throw away the Leeco wall adapter. It's possible that either it or the phone is drawing too much electricity for the port to handle.
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The charger is fine, it was built according to qualcomm specs: https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
The Issue is that alot of phones were sent out with bad cables.
I don't think that it's just the cable.
I have been seeing hard shut downs while charging at night. It's not consistent so I am just going slow I suspect that the phone is shutting off to prevent overcharging the battery.
I have 2 x727 with asop extended 8.1 and blackscreen kernel 4.9 installed
I replaced the original LeEco USB C cable with a genuine Samsung USB C cable per the recommendation of other threads. "no change still shut down while charging overnight"
I suspect that it is a kernel battery issue so I backed up in twrp and I installed the regular version 4.9 of the blackscreen kernel. "no change the phone is still shutdown occasionally while charging overnight on a original leeco charger with a Samsung USB C cable"
So now I am trying both a Samsung charger and Samsung cable. I should revert back to the twrp kernel backup but blackscreen kernel is just too awesome!
The Samsung charger only outputs at 5.3V @ 2.0A
The LeEco charger outputs at 3.6v to 8v @ 3.0A or 12v @ 2.0A
I'm pretty sure that the problem is a software issue with the quick charge 3.0 voltage controls in the rom itself but I haven't gotten a log of the shutdown yet to confirm that because I haven't rooted the phone. The phone was getting uncomfortably warm when charging.
I'm betting that with the Samsung Oem quick charge 2.0 charger the phone will work properly without shutting down overnight.
I'll update this post with my results.
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I have been seeing hard shut downs while charging at night. It's not consistent so I am just going slow I suspect that the phone is shutting off to prevent overcharging the battery.
I have 2 x727 with asop extended 8.1 and blackscreen kernel 4.9 installed
I replaced the original LeEco USB C cable with a genuine Samsung USB C cable per the recommendation of other threads. "no change still shut down while charging overnight"
I suspect that it is a kernel battery issue so I backed up in twrp and I installed the regular version 4.9 of the blackscreen kernel. "no change the phone is still shutdown occasionally while charging overnight on a original leeco charger with a Samsung USB C cable"
So now I am trying both a Samsung charger and Samsung cable. I should revert back to the twrp kernel backup but blackscreen kernel is just too awesome!
The Samsung charger only outputs at 5.3V @ 2.0A
The LeEco charger outputs at 3.6v to 8v @ 3.0A or 12v @ 2.0A
I'm pretty sure that the problem is a software issue with the quick charge 3.0 voltage controls in the rom itself but I haven't gotten a log of the shutdown yet to confirm that because I haven't rooted the phone. The phone was getting uncomfortably warm when charging.
I'm betting that with the Samsung Oem quick charge 2.0 charger the phone will work properly without shutting down overnight.
I'll update this post with my results.
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Have you tried simply reflashing the correct firmware?
I too have a X727 and had similar issues in the past while using a firmware designed for the X720, and alot of of Rom's come with the X720 firmware.
Try flashing the kernel from my Google Drive link below and see if that helps.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qAJrM8bIfI190W9w2gKR97xVhA-2lrZt
Meh 2 phones same software with different results.
I still don't really know why it was shutting off while charging overnight.
But the problem hasn't repeated itself since I stopped using one of the LeEco chargers. So at the moment I am blaming it on a bad charger base or wonky phone charging circuit, not the cable.
I was thinking my problem was software but I had already changed my roms Kernel to the appropriate blackscreen kernel from the roms stock kernel and the problem persisted on her phone until I stopped using the one included LeEco charger on my wife's phone, it's charging fine on the Samsung 2.0 quick charger, and mines charging without issues on the second LeEco 3.0 quick charger.
Unfortunately I can't just wipe her phone without causing her problems because she is always on her phone.
Is the problem hardware related in her phone is my current question? Or am I tracking a bug in the software.
If the problem is that charger base it should have zero effect if I put her phone on the 3.0 charger that I am using. If it is her phones charging hardware that test could permanently brick the phone Fry the charge port or battery ect...
So I am going to order another x727 if I can find another new one on ebay apparently most of the new US inventory is gone and the price is being gouged on the last of the new ones. :crying:
That way I will have a backup so I can do that test and have a phone to use for development. That's why I bought this phone in the first place.
I'm pretty sure that the one charger base is the whole problem but I can't afford to test that theory yet.
dlradlt said:
I still don't really know why it was shutting off while charging overnight.
But the problem hasn't repeated itself since I stopped using one of the LeEco chargers. So at the moment I am blaming it on a bad charger base or wonky phone charging circuit, not the cable.
I was thinking my problem was software but I had already changed my roms Kernel to the appropriate blackscreen kernel from the roms stock kernel and the problem persisted on her phone until I stopped using the one included LeEco charger on my wife's phone, it's charging fine on the Samsung 2.0 quick charger, and mines charging without issues on the second LeEco 3.0 quick charger.
Unfortunately I can't just wipe her phone without causing her problems because she is always on her phone.
Is the problem hardware related in her phone is my current question? Or am I tracking a bug in the software.
If the problem is that charger base it should have zero effect if I put her phone on the 3.0 charger that I am using. If it is her phones charging hardware that test could permanently brick the phone Fry the charge port or battery ect...
So I am going to order another x727 if I can find another new one on ebay apparently most of the new US inventory is gone and the price is being gouged on the last of the new ones. :crying:
That way I will have a backup so I can do that test and have a phone to use for development. That's why I bought this phone in the first place.
I'm pretty sure that the one charger base is the whole problem but I can't afford to test that theory yet.
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You can buy usb voltage testers on Amazon.
If you happen to have a bad charging block just toss it, and buy a universally compatible Qualcomm Quick Charger. Such as this one: https://www.amazon.com/Charge-Anker-Charger-Compatible-PowerPort/dp/B016LO811S
Blitzwolf quickcharger and C cables. Bought 3 of each. All my charging issues disappeared when I bought them. Leeco supplied cable/charger are crap, why risk it?
FYI, I have experienced the condition where my charging stops randomly when using 2 different decent Samsung Travel model fast chargers. Stopped around 49% to 85%
Neither pulled in fast charging voltage-drawing a little under 5 volts and maybe 1100mah, as compared to 9 volts when connected to the Leeco charger.
Good point. Charger blocks are cheap phones aren't.
As addendum to this issue, after a year and half my charger port finally burned out. Probably abused the phone a bit and got some moisture in the port, maybe it was just a matter of time.
I was able to resurrect the phone though. The actual replacement board is available on eBay for $5-10 with tools. Hardest part was using a heat gun to remove the screen. There are guide on how to open up this unit.
One thing I will tell you I am that you don't need to remove the battery to get to the USB board.
Just another note, either hitting my phone with the heat gun or mucking around with the battery unnecessarily caused the battery to start to malfunction. Battery would discharge quickly and phone would shut off randomly. I replaced the battery with some cheap replacement from China, cost about $16.
Also replaced the screen because I tore the ribbon cable by accident. The screen cost about $13. Definitely cheaper than an iPhone replacement!