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Quick Charging OnePlus 2 possible with Nexus 6P charger?

Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance

No, op2 doesn't have quickcharge built in. You might break your battery.

Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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fburgos said:
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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Couldn't have said it better myself

Quick charge is a built in feature which is not included in op2. So it's not possible to charge it that way.

I believe the snapdragon 810 supports quick charge, however, the OP2 designers chose not to implement it, probably due to the increase in cost associated with upgraded current handling for some parts, but that's a guess on my part.
There's usually no problem with using a larger capacity charger with your phone because they're almost always self regulating. However, it will probably not accelerate charging unless the device supports it.

No it doesn't support it.

My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.

nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P

nielsscholte said:
Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Well maybe I should grab a 6P charger and test it

Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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I wonder if it is possible to some how forcefully enable quick charging somehow.

fburgos said:
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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How is OPT circuit designed for 1A?? then why would they make a 2A charger, that makes no sense.
Fast charging on nexus devices is a capability of usb-c, not snapdragon quickcharge.
So I think we need to reevaluate this..
Somebody needs to test with a 3A nexus charger and run ampere.
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I might be wrong in something.
I used ampere to "measure" the current always tops at 1090mA but with screen on, which also drains juice from charger.
Any way you need a custom kernel like boeffla to change the mA to charge I remember it tops at 2200mA
But a 3A charger like nexus will only supply what the device is demanding (2200 mA)
Fast charging on nexus it's a feature of charger and charger circuit, remember to have a puppies a ***** (female dog) needs to mate with a dog not a cat. You might force different species they could mate but won't breed.
You need any race of dog to have puppies.
The same you need any brand of 5V/3A charger for a nexus and you will have fast charge.
Opt don't have fast charge won't harm to try but don't buy the charger just to test borrow someone's
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Opt supports 5v 2amp charging on screen off.
Quick charge (Qualcomm quick charge®) is achieved raising voltage and not amperage (up to 20 volts, in qc3) and should be both hardware-supported and software-enabled since is the phone that asks the charger for a specific power level (volts-amps couple).
The real question is: is qc hardware supported on opt, and, if yes, could it be software enabled in some way in a custom kernel or so?

nielsscholte said:
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.

demongokul said:
You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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thanks God someone replied, it's a shame that this does not contribute to the discussion in any way
I found an article that says that you need Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC and SMB1351 (as well as snap 810 SoC) to get quick charge working... I can find the first in many teardown but I can't find the second, any idea? Maybe it has been replaced by another component or is it missing at all?

krishna442 said:
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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just 1hr 50 mins???.For me it is around 3 hrs to charge from 0 to 100%

Why Dash? Why not Type-C to C?

It confuses me why a phone with a USB Type-C port would ship with a Type-A to C charging system. Beyond mere speculation, does anyone have information on why this was done? It doesn't make sense to me.
Also, has anyone tried a Nexus/Pixel type-c charger with the OP5? How are the charging speeds on those?
Thx

Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.

S4turno said:
Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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I've read places that OnePlus moved the fast charging tech from the phone side to the charging brick side. This is what also allows the phone/battery not to heat up during charging. It don't think the phones could handle charging at these speeds without frying the phone (phone would fry an egg) if the tech was still inside the phone.

All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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thefiqs said:
All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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This is what really gets me. Lots of people have QuickCharge chargers from other phones over the years, and it's easily supported by the hardware OP uses.

Dash Charge and Quick Charge are different things. Each technology needs different hardware to work.
Quick Charge was created by Qualcomm and it's used by the best Android phones (Samsung, Nexus, Pixel, etc)... it's slower than Dash and manufacturers need to pay a fee to Qualcomm when they use their technology. We can find support on power banks, car chargers, usb hubs, computers, etc.
Dash Charge was created by OPPO, Oneplus parent company... I guess this and the need to save money are the two main reasons for them to use Dash over QC.
Dash is faster because it moves some hardware from the phone to the charger. This way the heat generated by the higher voltage and amperage is "stored" on the charger allowing the phone to receive more energy and charge faster. The downside is that it's almost impossible to find compatible power banks, usb cables, chargers, etc.
There is also some concerns from users about the battery life... Oneplus says there's no problem, but everyone knows that charging batteries very fast is bad for their lives... anyway, most of us don't keep the phone for more than 1 or 2 years.
Then there is the "normal" charging, used by Apple and by cheap phones and usually can go up to 5v ~ 2.4a. This is also what the OP3/3T/5 uses when we don't use the original cable+charger.
Apple for example cannot use QC because they make their own CPU and don't use Qualcomms chips. Samsung also have a different tech they use on phones running on a Exynos processor.
tl:dr:
Quick Charge: from Qualcomm, slower, the "smart" hardware is on the phone, hotter phone during charging, colder charger, way more popular;
Dash Charge: from OPPO, faster, the "smart" hardware is on the charger, colder phone during charging, hotter charger, only OPPO and Oneplus use it;
Normal charging: it's slower, there is no special hardware needed, works with everything;

Quick Charge 4 on pixel 2 xl possibilities.

So i was roaming around on web.. and then accidentally stepped into ifixit teardown of pixel 2 xl.
lazy browsing.. i found an interesting thing..
pixel 2 xl have Qualcomm*SMB1381*Quick Charge 4 IC in it.
ofcourse it support usb pd, which is pixel 2 xl's native charging method..
SMB1381 support qc 4 ( with backward compatibility) , usb c and usb pd charging mechanism.
so now the point of this thread .. why dont we try to enable it?
if you ask why, because we already have faster pd charging.. why bother.. let me give u some quick points.
1) a wider compatibility.. like it can get fast charging from all the way down to qc-2.0 to qc-4.0
2) almost all midrange ( even some low budget phones) have qc -2 + charging mechanism, so you can find a quick charger almost everywhere.
3) almost all good powerbanks support qc. ( but may be only about less than 5% support usb pd)
4) the same applies to wall adapter itself.. almost 95% is qc enabled.. while only 5 % or so support usb pd
5) can reuse all those qc chargers which you keep in dust. or just using as normal charger..
6) last but not least.. you dont have to use usb c to usb c cables.. can use those usb a to usb c cables ( which comes with all new phones) to get quick charge.
so what you guys think?? shd we give it a try?
i am 100% sure that, google have just locked it down by software, ( sony used to do the same on xperia z2 international version.. till i figured it out and unlocked for xda - you can find that somewhere in xperia z2 forums or here - https://youtu.be/8p185UHd4a0 ) . might be.. they never added code for qc in kernel, or even library for qc.. or just didn't enable some kernel module in system folder..
can i get some support??

Quick Charge 4 is compatible with Power Delivery. I don't think a Quick Charge 4 charger will be any faster though. It's just compatible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
"Version 4 implements additional safety measures to protect against overcharging and overheating, and is compliant with both*USB⁠-⁠C*and*USB Power Delivery(USB-PD) specifications."
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EeZeEpEe said:
Quick Charge 4 is compatible with Power Delivery. I don't think a Quick Charge 4 charger will be any faster though. It's just compatible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
"Version 4 implements additional safety measures to protect against overcharging and overheating, and is compliant with both*USB
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yes.. i know.. it might not be fast.. but its not the point. the point is making the phone's fast charging compatible with all chargers ... like Qualcomm quick chargers and usb pd chargers and all powerbanks with qc technology.
we cant do dash charge because it requries special hardware. but we can do Qualcomm qc.

Sorry but I think I'm still missing your point. I was saying QC 4 is compatible with PD devices. So what are you wanting to "give a try"? A QC 4 charger with the Pixel 2 XL? It should work fine.
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yes.. i know.. it might not be fast.. but its not the point. the point is making the phone's fast charging compatible with all chargers ... like Qualcomm quick chargers and usb pd chargers and all powerbanks with qc technology.
we cant do dash charge because it requries special hardware. but we can do Qualcomm qc.
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ya.. qc 4 may be.. but not qc 3 or qc 2.0. for now a large amount of devices are supported only by qc 3 or lower.

Dash Charge Capable Power Bank

Is there any power bank that supports dash charging? I'm using a OnePlus 6T and as it uses 5V-4A i.e. 20w charging, is there any power bank capable of doing that??
Thanks in advance.. ???

Just found this via a quick search: https://www.amazon.com/Sdoutech-10000-Portable-Charge-Oneplus/dp/B078K8TZQ1 no idea if
I personally would just find the highest wattage bank from a reputable manufacturer. I think anker has an 18w with usb c input which would be close enough for me.

Some days ago, I have bought the powerbank mentioned by @tocogi73R.
I tested it for a short time, because I dont need a powerbank very often, so I cannot give that much feedback. But
- Charging the powerbank is very fast
- Charging the OnePlus with that powerbank is very fast
So, as far as I can tell, the OnePlus fast charge seems to work here. However, I cannot give any feedback about long-term use or battery life of the powerbank, yet.
The problem with anker power banks is, that they only support qualcomm quick charge. And chick charge does not work for OnePlus devices, so the charging of a OnePlus device with a qualcomm quick charge powerbank is as slow as every usual powerbank.
However, you have to be clear about the fact that the Sdoutech power bank will charge other phones quite slow, which do not support oneplus fast charge. So, if you ever will buy a phone, which is not by OnePlus, this powerbank will be quite slow. So, the Sdoutech power bank will only be the best solution as long as you use a OnePlus device. But if you do, it seems the best solution.

car charger question

Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
Or which charger should i get for the fastest charging possible for both phones in mind?

I don't think so, from what I understand they are two different standards so you need chargers and cables specific from each of them to use the super fast charging

they are completely two different technologies so you will need two charges, one for each phone if you want the fastest charging..
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No, they will not work as they are intended to

For me it didn't work.You need their specific charger