Will the 45w fast charger for samsung note 10 plus be compatible with warp charge for my 7 Pro? Or, will a oneplus car charger with warp charge still fast charge the note 10 plus??
Or which charger should i get for the fastest charging possible for both phones in mind?
I don't think so, from what I understand they are two different standards so you need chargers and cables specific from each of them to use the super fast charging
they are completely two different technologies so you will need two charges, one for each phone if you want the fastest charging..
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No, they will not work as they are intended to
For me it didn't work.You need their specific charger
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Hello,
Just noticed that S4 comes with 2A charger while S3 come with 1A charger. I have place where I charge a bunch of different devices in the house which has micro-USB port and all of them are using 1A. I'm wondering what repricussions I can have if I add 2A charger to the mix and will charge old devices with 2A charger and vice a versa charge S4 with 1A?
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Hello,
Just noticed that S4 comes with 2A charger while S3 come with 1A charger. I have place where I charge a bunch of different devices in the house which has micro-USB port and all of them are using 1A. I'm wondering what repricussions I can have if I add 2A charger to the mix and will charge old devices with 2A charger and vice a versa charge S4 with 1A?
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It will be fine, I charge all my devices from my ipad 3 10W/2A @5V wall charger. Bringing one charger while travelling reduces the clutter I have to pack.
Basically if your devices are working properly, they will only pull the power they need to charge. The S4's 2A charger is capable of supplying up to 2A's but is fine supplying less if the device your charging uses less.
The actuall charging circuitry that controls the battery charging is in the phone or device, not the wall unit. The wall unit is simply the power supply.
As acruxksa mentioned, you'll be fine since the device is in control of how much power it pulls from the charger (as long as it is working properly, that is). The only thing that you may notice is when you are charging the Galaxy S4 with the older 1.0A charger it may charge slower.
Have a great day.
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As acruxksa mentioned, you'll be fine since the device is in control of how much power it pulls from the charger (as long as it is working properly, that is). The only thing that you may notice is when you are charging the Galaxy S4 with the older 1.0A charger it may charge slower.
Have a great day.
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And if in doubt, look at it this way; the phones will charge off a USB port on a computer - this is 500ma (0.5A) - so as long as your device will charge off a usb port, it will charge off a wall charger that supplies at least that much amperage. New iPads will not charge off USB ports, but it doesn't hurt them to plug them in.
Charging time
artisticcheese said:
Hello,
Just noticed that S4 comes with 2A charger while S3 come with 1A charger. I have place where I charge a bunch of different devices in the house which has micro-USB port and all of them are using 1A. I'm wondering what repricussions I can have if I add 2A charger to the mix and will charge old devices with 2A charger and vice a versa charge S4 with 1A?
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Yes it does but as the previous reply said it takes longer.
I used the old s3 cable at the office charging s4 but it takes long time to get the battery % up. It usually takes my s4 from 1% to 100% within an hour and half time but with the s3 cable it takes good 3 -4 hour or so.
I wouldn't take the s3 cable for travelling though. it will take too long for me to charge in coffee shops and what not when I am moving around the destinations.
So far, I am very impressed with the charging time of S4.. Love the device.
acruxksa said:
It will be fine, I charge all my devices from my ipad 3 10W/2A @5V wall charger. Bringing one charger while travelling reduces the clutter I have to pack.
Basically if your devices are working properly, they will only pull the power they need to charge. The S4's 2A charger is capable of supplying up to 2A's but is fine supplying less if the device your charging uses less.
The actuall charging circuitry that controls the battery charging is in the phone or device, not the wall unit. The wall unit is simply the power supply.
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I don't understand why all current control is on device itself why not manufacturers just suppl 3A chargers for all the phones since it can be used for any device out there.
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And if in doubt, look at it this way; the phones will charge off a USB port on a computer - this is 500ma (0.5A) - so as long as your device will charge off a usb port, it will charge off a wall charger that supplies at least that much amperage. New iPads will not charge off USB ports, but it doesn't hurt them to plug them in.
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That's how I rationalized using my One S chargers
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artisticcheese said:
I don't understand why all current control is on device itself why not manufacturers just suppl 3A chargers for all the phones since it can be used for any device out there.
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Good question. Maybe because the higher amp batteries have not been out that long compared to all the years smartphones have been sold. They may start making 3A only. Also, companies may sell less chargers if one size fits all. No need to buy a new one when you change phones.
I do know when I charge the S4 with my One S charger it does take longer, as mentioned, and very slow off USB. The One S charger end also gets somewhat warm charging the S4. The S4 charger does not. That would lead me to believe it is pulling a little more current than charger was designed for. But, probably not an issue. USB does not get warm. But, is a good quality one and heavily shielded.
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I don't understand why all current control is on device itself why not manufacturers just suppl 3A chargers for all the phones since it can be used for any device out there.
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In case someone buys a 10amp cheap charger and ends up frying the phone. Thus Samsung protects it self from dummy users and from million dead phones warranty swaps.
I'm using a USB car charger that puts out 2.1amps and its super fast. USB 2.0 on my laptop takes a while to charge it. Some times I use iPhone charger with Nokia cable or with WD hard drive USB wire. They all work just fine but charge at different rate.
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artisticcheese said:
I don't understand why all current control is on device itself why not manufacturers just suppl 3A chargers for all the phones since it can be used for any device out there.
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The bigger the charger, more expensive it is. Manufacturers want to save money.
Wow. Way to necro this thread...
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Damn, thank goodness for Urban Dictionaries for OLD farts--
Had to look that one up
so if i will charge my S3 with a 2A charger i wont see any major change from the 1A, correct? I have the Boeffala kernel and at the AC charge is set to 1,1A so if i have a 2A charger i guess it should charge faster.
The phone will only draw the maximum it can. The 2A charger will charge it at the same speed as the 1A charger.
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The phone will only draw the maximum it can. The 2A charger will charge it at the same speed as the 1A charger.
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Maybe it is a placebo effect, but when I charge my S3 with my S4's charger it does seem faster. Quite a few of my coworkers that have used my S4 charger at work also thought it charged faster.
Either way I have charged my S3 with it very often with no I'll effects, so OP you should be safe to do so.
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Install battery monitor widget and you will be able to see how much it's pulling on each charger
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as i suffered around the internet looking for fast charge in oneplus 2.... people had two comments over this issue
1. oneplus didn't bought the liscense from QUALQUAMM for FAST CHARGING...!!
2. oneplus 2 didnt had the hardware support...!!
apart from this these things i also know that the cable and charger isn't enough for fast charging....!!
things to know:
1. cable isn't capable of delivering the necessary power for fast charging... check below
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/16/9742360/oneplus-usb-type-c-cable-adapter
2. the charger that oneplus provided is a (5v , 2A) charger which common now a days
things that need to tested by the developers:
does the DASH CHARGER work on the oneplus 2..??
CONCLUSION:
If oneplus didn't had the license agreement of QUALLQUAMM QUICK CHARGE last year since due to the money issue or due to the delay of this DASH CHARGE tech which should have came by last year........!!! so now the company has the tech of its own.... so why cant they give an update to the oneplus 2 and allow users to use DASH CHARGE...!
" dont say that ONEPLUS 2 dont have the hardware things.... it has it...."
"IF ONEPLUS give the DASH CHARGE to ONEPLUS 2 over an update it gonna stand till"
i had the same thoughts !! let me have a look at kernel sources released for oneplus 3 ! may i can make it work !
thanks ! will report back soon ! for both hardware and software updates !
How do we know the USB-C port hardware on the OnePlus 2 is designed for 5V/4A? It might be designed only for 5V/2A in which case, using 4Amps will kill the port entirely and ruin the device. Design decisions like these are thought out months before production.
Dash Charge is basically OPPO's VOOC Charging.
The major difference in the USB C port being, is that it contains 7 pins, instead of the standard 5 pin layout. There are two extra power pins. That is why it requires both the adapter AND the cable, while Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 can work with any cable.
So no, it is not going to work with Oneplus 2. It's not a software feature that you can just enable.
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Dash Charge is basically OPPO's VOOC Charging.
The major difference in the USB C port being, is that it contains 7 pins, instead of the standard 5 pin layout. There are two extra power pins. That is why it requires both the adapter AND the cable, while Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 can work with any cable.
So no, it is not going to work with Oneplus 2. It's not a software feature that you can just enable.
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There is nothing like what you are saying.....!! It's a software update and a hardware change which is changing the charger and the data cable.... check out the power delivery of the qualquamm quick charger vs the oneplus 2 charger.....
Yes it's a software and a hardware change.
Change your current hardware (phone) for a hardware that support quick or dash charge.
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what will happen if i charge my one plus 2, whose earlier charger was 5V and 2 Amp and now dash charger is 5V and 4Amp. will it damage my phone.
I have tested the dash charger with the OnePlus 2. Nothing spectuacular happens besides the fact I have topped 2 amps for the first time using the Dash charger. The OnePlus limit for charging is 2 amps. Usually I get 1,2 - 1,8 amps on a regular 2 amp charger. The OnePlus 2 charges a little bit quicker and more stable with the Dash charger, but thats about it. Don't ever expect the same speed as on the 3 and 3T.
Charging current depends on battery level you only get 2A at nearly empty level then drops little by little
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thiyagatrev said:
as i suffered around the internet looking for fast charge in oneplus 2.... people had two comments over this issue
1. oneplus didn't bought the liscense from QUALQUAMM for FAST CHARGING...!!
2. oneplus 2 didnt had the hardware support...!!
apart from this these things i also know that the cable and charger isn't enough for fast charging....!!
things to know:
1. cable isn't capable of delivering the necessary power for fast charging... check below
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/16/9742360/oneplus-usb-type-c-cable-adapter
2. the charger that oneplus provided is a (5v , 2A) charger which common now a days
things that need to tested by the developers:
does the DASH CHARGER work on the oneplus 2..??
CONCLUSION:
If oneplus didn't had the license agreement of QUALLQUAMM QUICK CHARGE last year since due to the money issue or due to the delay of this DASH CHARGE tech which should have came by last year........!!! so now the company has the tech of its own.... so why cant they give an update to the oneplus 2 and allow users to use DASH CHARGE...!
" dont say that ONEPLUS 2 dont have the hardware things.... it has it...."
"IF ONEPLUS give the DASH CHARGE to ONEPLUS 2 over an update it gonna stand till"
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I guess they might have limited the current to prevent overheating. It heats up like hell even without fast /dash charge
It confuses me why a phone with a USB Type-C port would ship with a Type-A to C charging system. Beyond mere speculation, does anyone have information on why this was done? It doesn't make sense to me.
Also, has anyone tried a Nexus/Pixel type-c charger with the OP5? How are the charging speeds on those?
Thx
Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
S4turno said:
Because only a small number of users have computers and spare chargers with type-c ports? Even big brands do this: Apple uses a type a to lightning and Samsung type a to type c. This will change when type c is more common.
Regarding the charging speeds, Oneplus uses a proprietary technology, so it's only possible to charge at "dash" speeds using the original cable and charger. If you use other cable (or use the original cable, but not the charger) it will be 2 or 3 times slower. It all depends on the power output of charger you use.
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I've read places that OnePlus moved the fast charging tech from the phone side to the charging brick side. This is what also allows the phone/battery not to heat up during charging. It don't think the phones could handle charging at these speeds without frying the phone (phone would fry an egg) if the tech was still inside the phone.
All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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All I don't understand why cant we charge this phone with QC2/3 chargers as fast charge because the SoC needs to support it?
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This is what really gets me. Lots of people have QuickCharge chargers from other phones over the years, and it's easily supported by the hardware OP uses.
Dash Charge and Quick Charge are different things. Each technology needs different hardware to work.
Quick Charge was created by Qualcomm and it's used by the best Android phones (Samsung, Nexus, Pixel, etc)... it's slower than Dash and manufacturers need to pay a fee to Qualcomm when they use their technology. We can find support on power banks, car chargers, usb hubs, computers, etc.
Dash Charge was created by OPPO, Oneplus parent company... I guess this and the need to save money are the two main reasons for them to use Dash over QC.
Dash is faster because it moves some hardware from the phone to the charger. This way the heat generated by the higher voltage and amperage is "stored" on the charger allowing the phone to receive more energy and charge faster. The downside is that it's almost impossible to find compatible power banks, usb cables, chargers, etc.
There is also some concerns from users about the battery life... Oneplus says there's no problem, but everyone knows that charging batteries very fast is bad for their lives... anyway, most of us don't keep the phone for more than 1 or 2 years.
Then there is the "normal" charging, used by Apple and by cheap phones and usually can go up to 5v ~ 2.4a. This is also what the OP3/3T/5 uses when we don't use the original cable+charger.
Apple for example cannot use QC because they make their own CPU and don't use Qualcomms chips. Samsung also have a different tech they use on phones running on a Exynos processor.
tl:dr:
Quick Charge: from Qualcomm, slower, the "smart" hardware is on the phone, hotter phone during charging, colder charger, way more popular;
Dash Charge: from OPPO, faster, the "smart" hardware is on the charger, colder phone during charging, hotter charger, only OPPO and Oneplus use it;
Normal charging: it's slower, there is no special hardware needed, works with everything;
Is there no way to charge faster than ~250mA using "conventional" charging methods?
sorry for the newbie question, but i am loving this phone so far EXCEPT i have never been able to charge it to more than 60% so far because i dont have the original charger. and every single other method i've tried charges it around 200mA (measured by ampere) and it only goes up around 10% after 10 hours of charging
previously, i use a LG G3 and i get 1000mA via various methods like:
-plugging it into the computer's USB3 or USB2 port on the charging only mode
-using older "fast" chargers that range between 1.5A to 2.0A
I'm using a standard USB-C cable (bought from amazon) with the above
if i dont get the "newer" chargers, is there any way i can still charge the essential to a "reasonable" speed?
You can use one of the power delivery chargers (Anker, Aukey, etc) on Amazon. They will fast charge the PH-1. The charger for Chromebook Pro and MacBook also works well. Might also be able to get a replacement charger from Essential depending on where the phone was originally purchased. They sent me a free replacement charger and cable after the original charger stopped working.
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You can use one of the power delivery chargers (Anker, Aukey, etc) on Amazon. They will fast charge the PH-1. The charger for Chromebook Pro and MacBook also works well. Might also be able to get a replacement charger from Essential depending on where the phone was originally purchased. They sent me a free replacement charger and cable after the original charger stopped working.
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https://shop.essential.com/products/fast-charger
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https://shop.essential.com/products/fast-charger
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I'm assuming "if I don't buy one of the newer chargers" means they don't want to purchase the official charger from Essential.
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It sounds like you need a new cable or power brick, the cable being the likliest point of failure.
geminihc said:
sorry for the newbie question, but i am loving this phone so far EXCEPT i have never been able to charge it to more than 60% so far because i dont have the original charger. and every single other method i've tried charges it around 200mA (measured by ampere) and it only goes up around 10% after 10 hours of charging
previously, i use a LG G3 and i get 1000mA via various methods like:
-plugging it into the computer's USB3 or USB2 port on the charging only mode
-using older "fast" chargers that range between 1.5A to 2.0A
I'm using a standard USB-C cable (bought from amazon) with the above
if i dont get the "newer" chargers, is there any way i can still charge the essential to a "reasonable" speed?
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I'm using the following and all work fine:
LG G6 factory charger
Essential Factory Charger
Aukey wall charger with Quick Charge 3.0
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FJ5TMC2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
AUKEY Amp USB Charger with USB C Port & 4 USB Ports
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZ4KHYQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You need to buy a charger that supports Quick Charge if you want to charge rapidly.
Otherwise figure on nothing more than about 500mA.
At 500mA from empty figure 6 hours to charge.
Buy a charger.
This is not a specific OP8P question but as it has warp charge it applies.
So warp charge requires the original OP charger brick but what if I was to use Huawei fast charger for example. Would it be compatible and charge at a faster rate? Is there any cross comparability between manufacturers fast charging offerings and I'd not is this something that could potentially be unlocked with a custom firmware?
Sometimes I use my gf's 24W charger of her Huawei laptop. It charges fast, but not like using Warp charger.