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Hi, I have noticed a problem and I was wondering if others could check if their phones do it or if I need a replacement.
When texting on the hardware keypad the response is rather slow, but more importantly it gets the keypresses out of order! Specifically, the order that I pressed the space key (0). If I text slowly this is not an issue, but if I blast away then I can consistently observe it make the same mistake. Here is my test:
In XT9 mode, start a new text message and type 'it going' really fast. This key sequence is 48046464
If I am texting fast, my Touch Dual will consistently enter 'hug mini', which is 48406464
Note that the space is one place too late.
This happens all the time with any other word combinations, and is worse when the device is stressed. I have no other running programs, I have not flashed from the stock Orange ROM, I have tried a hard reset and I AM typing correctly
Oh, a point of interest, if I train myself to type double spaces then it works, and only single spaces are written! Of course if I slow down though I see double spaces.
So, anyone else (preferably with the Orange ROM but all answers appreciated) have this problem?
I have exactly same problem. It is very, very annoying..
I don't have the Orange rom, I have original swedish rom, but I have the same problem. the most annoying thing is that I can't type as fast as a can, because of the delay.
i just tried this, no problem here. also, the space on mine is the # key.
im using toms rom also.
i typed it out really fast. there was a slight delay till the words showed up but it showed up as what it was supposed to.
have u tried the HTC Update?
There's been notices that that problem was fixed (or at least didn't happened so frequently)
I tried downloading it from HTC e-Club, but no difference.
The hotfix didn't help me, but I have made progress to solving this problem. It seems that the stock Orange ROM is just rubbish, I reflashed with a custom WM 6.1 ROM and it is much better. If I stress the device by doing lots of things at the same time then I can still make the error appear, but texting is actually bearable now when playing mp3s.
It's a shame I haven't uncovered the root cause of the problem. I refuse to believe it is in the Windows Mobile core so it must be something HTC have done to it. Do they have a different SMS composer or something?
So basically, my hd2 is not running smooth at all. Every time i do a rom update and then restore my contacts/messages/settings it keeps getting frozen and unresponsive. So I have to restart the device, but I don't know why it should be restarted anyway, isn't is kind of super fast?!?! So, now, when I recently updated my ROM, the device is so damn slow, that even after typing my PIN it takes a minute to launch htc sense and everything. When I'm moving through the tabs it's so damn laggy i can't stand it. . Is anyone else experiencing this????
To be honest, and I'm no expert, it sounds like you have some serious phone problems, probably out of your control. Not to sound like a pessimist but given how everyone else seems to be ok with the HD2, could be either a major rom/radio problem or hardware failure??
I've updated my hd2 using the official rom from HTC and, apart from the occasional lag i get from WinMo, my device runs sweet as a a proverbial nut. Especially as I have run the tweaks suggested by the forums here.
Given that you have said that you've upgraded the ROM and it's made no difference, the only thing i could suggest is possibly send it back under warranty?
Obviously, I'd wait and see if someone with more know-how has a better explanation, i'm merely giving you my POV.
Hope you get this sorted ASAP. A properly working HD2 is a marvellous thing.
All the best
To the OP,
There could be so many causes for your problems. I would start as follows:
- Take your SD card out and see if the phone boots and is not laggy with the card out
- If this does not work take a look at the SMS threads on here and see if the solutions there help you
- If no joy then read the Hints @ Tips thread on here, if you have not already done so, and pickup on the cache move tips, using the task manager to close open files, etc
- I that fails look for the thread "HD2 Died - or did it" and implement the solutions in there
- If that does not help and you have been flashing a fair few roms then hop over to the MTTY thread in rom development and see if that helps.
Plenty to be getting on with.
Hope you get it sorted.
WB
My power up to sense loaded time = 55 secs.
Any different?
thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...
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thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...
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I have experienced question 1 and 2.. however not alot or not frequent.. I tend to think that this is just a computer and computers do crash depending on whats going on.. The missed screen taps only happens once or twice when its playing up. I do have a screen protector on though so whether the dust, oil or screen protector is causing that is a different story, but isnt a big problem for me to remove the screen protector to find out.
so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time). As said before, I'm using energy rom, latest issue (17.2.). Could the problem be, in fact connected with this rom or specifically with sms software?
using cooked roms you can generally expect a few lockups and restarts.
Also, the screen not powering up, just the hard keys backlight is an issue across the board, from custom roms to official roms. Some roms seem to do it, some don't, but one that doesn't do it to me might well do it to you.
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so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time).
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It has been mentioned before that if you have a large number of texts stored, it will take a while for it to allow you to reply to a text. (It has to go through the database, check for the texts sent by the user, then arrange them alongside the ones sent to them by you, then put them in chronological order, then display them, this takes time)
but i would presume the device should be working anyway (but slower, of course) and not flashing the display and being "frozen" ?
The frozen issue with texts is all in the SMS thread I pointed you to earlier. Solutions to the phone freezing are in the HD2 Died thread, again as I pointed out earlier.
How many of these potential solutions have you tried? Tryy these things first then come back if they don't work rather than make assumptions about your ROM.
WB
after 3 months i still have the issue with missed strokes.. even after the latest energy rom update :\
anyone?
I am not sure if this has to do with using Android or not, but sometimes my HD2 decides to reboot itself unexpectedly, on WM as well as on Android and I can't really find what's causing it.
But what happens is, after switching itself off, it switches itself on again and hangs on the HTC logo, sometimes with or without the following info:
R 2.10.50.28_2
G 15.40.50.07U
D 1.66.76641
I am using stock ROM that came with it, i assumed it will be stable by itself but it reboots itself randomly sometimes just like on Android.
Does it have to do with the Radio version (i changed it from 2.07.xx). I tried 2.12.xx before and had same problems.
I should note that the only way for it to run again is to remove the battery for a while and then put it back. If i remove it and put it back briefly it will still hang.
Anyone is familiar with this strange behavior?
Thanks
ME too
I have the EXACT same problem. It only started for me after using android. now whenever i run Android it will unexpectedly reboot and sometimes hang like yours. It also does it in WM though not as often. I was able to notice it might have something to do with data connections bc if i run android but only use wifi it seems to be fine. I tried changing Radios WM ROMs and Android builds i even hardspled my phone again but nothing solved it. The problem needs to be talked about more. it got so bad for me I bought a Desire and gave up on my HD2 for the moment. Keep this thread up.
sounds like i have to follow
I hope not!
I notice if i do heavy download on wm or android i get it. But it could be that the phone is too hot? But it's not alarmingly hot tbh.
I hope more people can shed light on this.
Thanks for your input.
Yeah this is what seems to happen to me too, i start a downlogsd it gets a bit warm then freezes or reboots and gets stuck. However it doesnt even have to be a large download for me, a simple cab file or youtube video sometimes. And as far as heat, this never used to be a problem and i know for a fact my phone used to heat up way more before without a problem.
Maybe the qualcomm chipset go in "safe mode"..i remember that for first start tickle the orange led and after the device freeze or restart..maybe your device overheat. Try to touch cover's device or install a battery status monitor software. If you have changed radio, return on the original status. In case the restart happen always, make a backup using Pimbackup, and do an Hard Reset. For first try to use the telephone without the memory card and test the stabilty. If is all ok, you have to provide to format your SD card in Fat32. Try also to change the HSPL with the original SPL.
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Thabks. Back to the subject, today i tried downloading on wifi a 150mb file on android and it rebooted byitself.
Then i tried to play a wmv video file on WM stock ROM and after 6 min it rebooted.
So its starting to look more and more like cpu/heat problem, anyone having these issues?
So does anyone think this might have something to do with all the overclocking in those android builds we've been using?
After 45 mins of install HD2 still hanging?
Hi, I just installed FroyoSense by darkstone
Release date: 07.AUG.2010
I don't know if this is the latest (probably not) but after 45 minutes of install the screen has in the top left hand corner tiny small text (excuse my lack of knowledge here) but no scrolling text as I expected, its now like 50 minutes, how long should it take?
Any help please would be appreciated, thanks
John
New to the HD2
So, I just bought a used HD2 a week ago. It was having similar problems in WM. I took it to a local store, and they said that is just how WM phones are. I've flashed HSPL and different radios and ROMs, installed Android, but still have trouble with freezing and rebooting on it's own no matter what I do. IT happens the same in WM or Android. Is there any way to find out if these might be due to hardware problems caused by the previous owner?
I got the same problem, when I do a lot of things on the same time on the HD2 it hangs or reboot. During de restart of the phone it hangs on the White screen with HTC on it. I have te take the battery out of it en than reboot again.
When I listen music and Internet the same time it almost always happends.
It happends on WM but also on Android, I tryed different ROM's and Radio Version's but nothing worked. Also tryed to work without SD-card, but still the same problem.
So I have no idea how to solve the problem...
I hope someone now's how to solve it...
Sorry for my bad English but I hope it's clear
FroyoStone with HTC Sense V2
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Hi, I just installed FroyoSense by darkstone
Release date: 07.AUG.2010
I don't know if this is the latest (probably not) but after 45 minutes of install the screen has in the top left hand corner tiny small text (excuse my lack of knowledge here) but no scrolling text as I expected, its now like 50 minutes, how long should it take?
Any help please would be appreciated, thanks
John
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Ok having waited for 2 hrs, I shutdown and installed FroyoStone v2, this time the tiny text appeared and faded after about 5 -10 seconds and the screen has gone blank, is this normal? No scrolling text, nothing, I going tpo re-boot and will keep you updated. Thx
If you read the previous posts you would know this thread has nothing to do with the problem youre describing. I understand the confusion of the title but pls read the thread first.
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Ok having waited for 2 hrs, I shutdown and installed FroyoStone v2, this time the tiny text appeared and faded after about 5 -10 seconds and the screen has gone blank, is this normal? No scrolling text, nothing, I going tpo re-boot and will keep you updated. Thx
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Your problem is unrelated to this thread.
So far we have more and more people having the related issue on WM and Android. We need some expert to help us pinpoint the problem.
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I got the same problem, when I do a lot of things on the same time on the HD2 it hangs or reboot. During de restart of the phone it hangs on the White screen with HTC on it. I have te take the battery out of it en than reboot again.
When I listen music and Internet the same time it almost always happends.
It happends on WM but also on Android, I tryed different ROM's and Radio Version's but nothing worked. Also tryed to work without SD-card, but still the same problem.
So I have no idea how to solve the problem...
I hope someone now's how to solve it...
Sorry for my bad English but I hope it's clear
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i have the same issues.
I can add also playing videos for longerthan 5-10min would make the phone reboot too weither its WM or android.
Today I was in the Store where I bought mine HTC HD2, because I was sick off it. They told me that is was a familiar problem with the HTC HD2. They also would repair it free for me. I didn't do it yet because first I have to delete my HSPL etc.
I asked them also what the would repair to solve te problem, he told me: the will do a complete bodyswap. So everything will be renewed, exept the tochscreen and front.
So I guess it is a real and serious hardware problem....
Why we dont hear people conplaining about it if its comon?
I find that very odd.
Someone could try PMing one of the devs in the forum and linking them to this thread to see if they could shed some insight or at least bring more attention to the issue.
Well I live in the Netherlands and on the Dutch HTC HD2 forum, I heard some people complaining about it. But the salesman of the store said that it is a familiar problem, so that sounds to me like a regular problem. But indeed it's weird we doesn't hear more people complaining.
Maybe the most of the people think is normal with WM, but I am really sick of it...
Guys i have a problem with my LG g2 D802 with screen turning black often, then i messed around with the phone and ticked the option "always GUP overly" something like that in developer menu, anyways after that i didn't had any problem for 3 days, then again the blackout started,after restarting the phone more than 10 times i got the display back, then i checked if that overlay option is still ticked, is wasn't ticked , and i didnt touched it, anyways ..this should be an software problem right? anyone here know how to fix this ? Help me out please
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@Demitha some options in developer options resets after boot so they are getting unticked by the system itself. I don't know why your screen turns black after enabling that option, the onkly thing i can say to try is to wipe cache/dalvik-cache and even maybe an factory reset and if those things doesnt work then reflash stock.
We could also see maybe what caused an bsod when you logcat but since it appears often its hard to say when you need to start logging.
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@Demitha some options in developer options resets after boot so they are getting unticked by the system itself. I don't know why your screen turns black after enabling that option, the onkly thing i can say to try is to wipe cache/dalvik-cache and even maybe an factory reset and if those things doesnt work then reflash stock.
We could also see maybe what caused an bsod when you logcat but since it appears often its hard to say when you need to start logging.
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the option name is "disable HW Overlays" screen dont turn black after enabling that option, i meant,screen didnt blackout after enabling it, but yet some times screen goes out, i did reset the phone once, didn't fix the issues, how do i reflash a stock? i never done it?is there a video guide or something? help me out please.
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@Demitha here is the guide if you didn't founded it yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Did you had this blackout also before enabling it?
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@Demitha here is the guide if you didn't founded it yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Did you had this blackout also before enabling it?
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yeah it was worse before,after enabling that option blackout didnt happen fro o 3 days , i noticed even though i didnt restart the phone that HW overlay option gets unticked :/
@Demitha well if it was even worse before then i suggest you to charge your phone to 80-100% for safety because it may take a long time, maybe it can be lower but for safety I always have my battery around that percentage. And then you can try the guide. If your screen turns black can you touch it on random spots to see or it makes sound noises like if you click on anything.
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@Demitha well if it was even worse before then i suggest you to charge your phone to 80-100% for safety because it may take a long time, maybe it can be lower but for safety I always have my battery around that percentage. And then you can try the guide. If your screen turns black can you touch it on random spots to see or it makes sound noises like if you click on anything.
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i hear sounds and vibrations, phone is totally working on the blackout
@wulsic you think reflashing will fix this issue?
@Demitha it could be but i am not sure, it could be also an hardware defect maybe, and also maybe an software so try to reflash it I am not sure or its hardware or software since it could be both.
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@Demitha here is the guide if you didn't founded it yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Did you had this blackout also before enabling it?
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@Demitha it could be but i am not sure, it could be also an hardware defect maybe, and also maybe an software so try to reflash it I am not sure or its hardware or software since it could be both.
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if i flash the phone,i will get software updates like normally ?
@Demitha if you flash the phone to 4.4.2 then you will still get software updates for apps, system incremental updates etc so dont worry about it. You need to care first more to find out the black screen problem. Also if you have an blackscreen do you see like an backlight on ? That the black color gives light ?
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@Demitha if you flash the phone to 4.4.2 then you will still get software updates for apps, system incremental updates etc so dont worry about it. You need to care first more to find out the black screen problem. Also if you have an blackscreen do you see like an backlight on ? That the black color gives light ?
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yes it does, it like a black light,not very bright but the light is there
@Demitha ahh okay so its not totally off, it could be an software problem since i also had something like that on custom roms when waking up my device (bsod) but i dont remember that my touchscreen still works that i hear those noises so it could be also an hardware problem. The only thing i cannsay is flash it to stock once again like it came out of the box and use it for a couple days to see or its coming back. If so can you reply again to this thread? I think that some g2 users could maybe say more about this subject since i dont have the g2. I also read about display graphics ram which saves battery by holding an image and displaying it like that instead of the gpu so i thought maybe that it got bugged or what, correct me if i'm wrong I read it today in the morning around 2 am.
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@Demitha ahh okay so its not totally off, it could be an software problem since i also had something like that on custom roms when waking up my device (bsod) but i dont remember that my touchscreen still works that i hear those noises so it could be also an hardware problem. The only thing i cannsay is flash it to stock once again like it came out of the box and use it for a couple days to see or its coming back. If so can you reply again to this thread? I think that some g2 users could maybe say more about this subject since i dont have the g2. I also read about display graphics ram which saves battery by holding an image and displaying it like that instead of the gpu so i thought maybe that it got bugged or what, correct me if i'm wrong I read it today in the morning around 2 am.
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well, i never flashed a phone before, im afraid i might do it wrong
@Demitha i know that you are scared for the first time, when i flashed an android phone for the first time (Htc google nexus one, i miss the trackball xd) i read everything carefully and i did it good it was different then windows mobile since i was the first android user in my family. but i had it for some weeks and sold it again because i had touchscreen issues,power button didnt worked so yeah. But that was some hardware issue which wasn't caused by the flash but it was the previous owner.
So just read the guide carefully, backup all your files to be sure and charge your phone to 80% atleast thats what i am always doing. Or you need to know an geeky friend who also do these stuff
can you please point out what i need to download in order to flash the phone in this thread, there are different versions of g2 models there ,please check the screenshot below
https://copy.com/71RAumYBzgmI
here is the other screenshot, - https://copy.com/9oNye3tlH96z
@Demitha you said you have the d802 version and i also see in the build/software number the d802 so
You need to flash the d802 version which is the international one so just find the d802 files and flash it goodluck! Reply if you need help again
first of all the phone is restarting and freezes a lot , i tried several stock roms but no change , second i made a mistake and didn't take a backup from the original rom , now the *#06# and the *#0*# codes is not working or responding also the battery drains soooooo fast, another issue is when i installed a stock rom when i came to the step when you write your google account , i can't writ any thing even when i skip it and try to writ after i finish the instillation i couldn't also , only when i installed different keyboard it worked and my biggest issue now is there is a shade of a vertical line in the top of the screen it's very light only if you get a white background you will see it also there is a shades of a microphone icon also light not sharp to be seen ,, i'm so annoyed of all this things and don't know what to do , i'm running a s8 rom now it's little better than the stock
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first of all the phone is restarting and freezes a lot , i tried several stock roms but no change , second i made a mistake and didn't take a backup from the original rom , now the *#06# and the *#0*# codes is not working or responding also the battery drains soooooo fast, another issue is when i installed a stock rom when i came to the step when you write your google account , i can't writ any thing even when i skip it and try to writ after i finish the instillation i couldn't also , only when i installed different keyboard it worked and my biggest issue now is there is a shade of a vertical line in the top of the screen it's very light only if you get a white background you will see it also there is a shades of a microphone icon also light not sharp to be seen ,, i'm so annoyed of all this things and don't know what to do , i'm running a s8 rom now it's little better than the stock
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I don't know which ROM you're using, but I don't think that's the problem. Most of the respected ROMs on XDA won't cause the range of problems you have. It's likely that there's aismatch somewhere - wrong bootloader, wrong kernel, wrong version of gapps or something like that.
I'm not am expert, but I'd suggest you completely wipe your phone, do a manufacturer reset, install the best working version of TWRP (the most recent version is not always the best one for certain phone/ROM combinations), carefully select and install the correct baseband and radio firmware (and double/triple check this on different websites), and then install a simple, debloated, close-to-stock ROM.
Once this is done and everything's working, maybe then you can try an S8 port ROM.
I'm not sure how many responses you'll get to your post, as all you've done is list a load of complaints without going into detail. People on XDA are very knowledgeable and can do wonders if you ask for their help but you need to write a calm, detailed post, and don't expect answers to all your problems all at once.
As I said, I'm no expert and I can't help you any further, so please don't ask me for any specific information.
Good luck
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