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Hey I am running the stock windows mobile 6.1 from sprint because I just got a replacement but I have always noticed that when i type a message, the letters always lag and it takes about 2 seconds for the phone to finally catch up. is there any solution for this problem out there because there was for the tilt but I tried that solution and it made things worse. any help would be appreciated.

I'd like an answer to that too.

That Makes Three Of Us And I Have To Say Its Pretty Darn Annoying!

From what I can tell this is just a problem with the hardware keyboard that has no fix (to the best of my knowledge)

actually not....
its not a problem with the hardware as it doesnt do this in the old 6.0 stock rom and when you hard reset then its normal and doesnt lag till a couple days later. I just flashed KAOS mogul rom from smartphonejunkie and it doesnt really do that at all. So there is something in the software definitely

Problems with my hd2 - Help Please

So basically, my hd2 is not running smooth at all. Every time i do a rom update and then restore my contacts/messages/settings it keeps getting frozen and unresponsive. So I have to restart the device, but I don't know why it should be restarted anyway, isn't is kind of super fast?!?! So, now, when I recently updated my ROM, the device is so damn slow, that even after typing my PIN it takes a minute to launch htc sense and everything. When I'm moving through the tabs it's so damn laggy i can't stand it. . Is anyone else experiencing this????

To be honest, and I'm no expert, it sounds like you have some serious phone problems, probably out of your control. Not to sound like a pessimist but given how everyone else seems to be ok with the HD2, could be either a major rom/radio problem or hardware failure??
I've updated my hd2 using the official rom from HTC and, apart from the occasional lag i get from WinMo, my device runs sweet as a a proverbial nut. Especially as I have run the tweaks suggested by the forums here.
Given that you have said that you've upgraded the ROM and it's made no difference, the only thing i could suggest is possibly send it back under warranty?
Obviously, I'd wait and see if someone with more know-how has a better explanation, i'm merely giving you my POV.
Hope you get this sorted ASAP. A properly working HD2 is a marvellous thing.
All the best

To the OP,
There could be so many causes for your problems. I would start as follows:
- Take your SD card out and see if the phone boots and is not laggy with the card out
- If this does not work take a look at the SMS threads on here and see if the solutions there help you
- If no joy then read the Hints @ Tips thread on here, if you have not already done so, and pickup on the cache move tips, using the task manager to close open files, etc
- I that fails look for the thread "HD2 Died - or did it" and implement the solutions in there
- If that does not help and you have been flashing a fair few roms then hop over to the MTTY thread in rom development and see if that helps.
Plenty to be getting on with.
Hope you get it sorted.
WB

My power up to sense loaded time = 55 secs.
Any different?

thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...

[^IcEmAn^] said:
thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...
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I have experienced question 1 and 2.. however not alot or not frequent.. I tend to think that this is just a computer and computers do crash depending on whats going on.. The missed screen taps only happens once or twice when its playing up. I do have a screen protector on though so whether the dust, oil or screen protector is causing that is a different story, but isnt a big problem for me to remove the screen protector to find out.

so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time). As said before, I'm using energy rom, latest issue (17.2.). Could the problem be, in fact connected with this rom or specifically with sms software?

using cooked roms you can generally expect a few lockups and restarts.
Also, the screen not powering up, just the hard keys backlight is an issue across the board, from custom roms to official roms. Some roms seem to do it, some don't, but one that doesn't do it to me might well do it to you.

[^IcEmAn^] said:
so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time).
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It has been mentioned before that if you have a large number of texts stored, it will take a while for it to allow you to reply to a text. (It has to go through the database, check for the texts sent by the user, then arrange them alongside the ones sent to them by you, then put them in chronological order, then display them, this takes time)

but i would presume the device should be working anyway (but slower, of course) and not flashing the display and being "frozen" ?

The frozen issue with texts is all in the SMS thread I pointed you to earlier. Solutions to the phone freezing are in the HD2 Died thread, again as I pointed out earlier.
How many of these potential solutions have you tried? Tryy these things first then come back if they don't work rather than make assumptions about your ROM.
WB

after 3 months i still have the issue with missed strokes.. even after the latest energy rom update :\
anyone?

HD2 is driving me NUTS, can you help?

So, long story short, I had a Nexus One, which I loved EXCEPT for the fact that my coverage was horrible, half my text messages didn't send, the battery life sucked, and the screen was getting burn in and had weird color saturation.
So I got an HD2.
And, coverage is great, in fact it's the only phone on any carrier that I have ever seen maintain a 3G signal in my dads house which is like in the forest lol. No dropped calls or unsent texts. Love the screen, love the music player, love Sense UI, etc. BUT...
No matter what I do, I seem to have the same problems...
1. Applications not opening. This happens most frequently with Opera. I've tried the stock ROM, the new 2.13 stock ROM, and ChuckyRom. And while for a day or two there are no problems, after a little bit I just randomly get error messages opening Opera (and some other programs) saying there isn't enough memory or a file is missing. Sometimes if I close everything in the task manager it will open but sometimes not. It always works again after a reset. It's REALLY frustrating. I don't really want to do crazy stuff with the phone, I just want everything to work. So any ideas how to fix this?
2. HTC Messaging. After a couple days, when I have a few contacts with 100+ messages, there is this AWFUL delay before I can type a response. Same as above, I tried a few different ROMs and after a couple days it's the same thing.
I know these seem like little things, but when I want to go to the browser and literally 2/3 of the times it just won't open without a reset, or when I go to reply to a message and it won't let me type for 30 seconds, it's just really annoying, all the time. So any ideas to fix this, whether it be different ROMs, or registry changes, or anything, please let me know.
Ugh I can't wait til someone ports Android or WP7 to this fantastic hardware lol.

i had the same problem that you were having until i used a custom rom. i figured everyone that was having lag is when using the htc messaging so i found a rom without it. its a pretty basic rom without the htc sense ui on there and that solved my problems. you should just try out different roms to see which one works best for you

Try using kumars latest ROM 2.0 with htc messaging disabled. No lag at all.

Incoming Call Screen

So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.

Hmm...if it were me I'd definitely start with uninstalling that video driver and see if that changes the behavior.
Also, are you using the stock lockscreen or do you have CHT lockscreen enabled via CHTE? If you do have CHT's enabled, then next you might want to switch it off and see if it helps.
I don't know for sure that either of those will resolve that, but that's where I'd start troubleshooting.

After your new rom finished flashing, did you perform a manual hard reset (as recommended by most chefs)?
I've found that there is more chance of the rom being unstable if you dont.
(flashes dont always take first time, no clue why, but i'd estimate about 1 in 10 flashes just isn't stable, yet the next flash with the same rom is stable, , , I've also noted similar results when installing an OS on my PC, , , sometimes it just doesnt wanna take properly.)

theidealone said:
So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.
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I read somewhere that the "unleaked official ROM" caused more problems than it was worth. I got the 2.13 ROM on the leaked version before it was made official and it has been working great since. I read that they made more changes and then made it official and that it was causing phones to be bricked and most phones ended up worse than they where before the the upgrade. The only "negative" thing i experienced was the screen sensitivity but it appears that the cab featured in the sticky at the top of the post fixed that!? Kinda strange If all else fails Factory Reset and try again. I always like to take a baseline reading. When my phone began acting screwy I would restore and run it stock for a few days to see if problems persisted...then after about three or four days slowly begin installing things...

Thanks for the responses! I will start with sirphunkee's suggestions. As I was typing, I started thinking the Driver Patch was a good possibility. Also, I have noticed that the phone doesnt just "sleep" the screen when I put the phone to my face, it locks. Im assuming this is something to do with CHTE's lock, because as sirphunkee mentioned, I am using the CHTE lock, instead of the stock.
Im going to start there, and see what happens.
Also, I did NOT do a manual hard reset. How would I go about doing so (yes, Im a HUGE noob. More of a car guy)? Im hoping I wont need to do this, as Im assuming I will need to restore all of my contacts, reorganize them, and reset everything else, as if the phone were new out of the box... Correct? But in case that is necessary, how do I do so?
As far as the leaked or official version... I couldnt find it on T-Mobile's site. I read a thread here, where it had been there then removed, due to people having issues with the download. I then was searching Swype or something, same forum, and found another thread, where someone had a link to the download through T-Mobile. Kinda hard to explain, but I will see if I can find the link, and the thread.
Thanks again guys! I really appreciate it. And thanks for taking it easy on me.

I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.

theidealone said:
I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.
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Thanks for the effort though, you'll be able to put up links after just a few more posts (it's listed in the forum rules...hint, hint). Also, toreone already threw up a new thread in this section with that link for everybody, so don't sweat that
EDIT: oops, missed the rest of your questions there. The hard-reset is exactly what you said...resets the phone to factory-fresh condition. Yes, contacts will have to be reapplied, but sorting really shouldn't be an issue depending on your method of backing up and restoring them. I highly recommend using the built-in Microsoft Myphone utility for that (and it's wise to let it back them up regularly too, just in case, I just have mine set to do it each night while it's charging).
You can perform a hard-reset a couple of ways:
1. on your settings tab, hit "menu", then "all settings", then "system". You'll find an icon in there titled "clear storage". Run that, use 1234 as the code, and it will do its deed.
2. with the phone powered off, hold both the vol up and down buttons at the same time, and then press the end/power button to turn it back on, then it will take you into the same hard-reset process as the first method.

[Q] Random problem forces hard reset

Since flashing Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail ROM to my HD I have been very impressed with it's performance, 99% of the time it is responsive and stable and seems happy even though several programs are running. It has made my HD a really nice phone.
But every now and again something weird will happen, usually activesync reports a problem, or all of my contacts vanish, sometimes files on the device (not SD) cannot be accessed. So I soft reset and it doesn't boot, it will get stuck on the orange splash screen.
In total it has happened about 4 times since I flashed the ROM on Dec 29. It happened last night and eventually the device loaded the background picture, then popped up an error dialogue saying something about being unable to open a file, there was no mention of the file name. I did a soft reset and it then automatically performed a hard reset.
The other times the phone just hangs on the orange splash screen every time, causing me to perform a hard reset manually. Sometimes it will work fine for a good few days, or sometimes fail after only 1 day.
Its really annoying. I cant seem to get a HTC that works at the moment. My TP2 is rubbish, I've tried several ROM's and it is consistently unstable, so I go back to my HD which was always reliable... And now this happens.
please Help or I'll be forced to turn to the darkside and get an iphone and I really don't want to do that!

Why not just return to the "reliable" firmware version used previously?
I'm not a fan of custom roms or 6.5, especially on this underpowered model, it's definitely the most reliable handheld I own or have owned with oem roms though, especially without it's resource gobbling pretty face on.

Not really the most helpful answer, but i suppose i cannot argue the reasoning behind it.
In defence of this ROM it is BRILLIANT when it is working, i'd actually argue that the device feels smoother with this ROM than it did with the stock Orange UK ROM.

deejayry said:
Not really the most helpful answer, but i suppose i cannot argue the reasoning behind it.
In defence of this ROM it is BRILLIANT when it is working, i'd actually argue that the device feels smoother with this ROM than it did with the stock Orange UK ROM.
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Have you tried asking your question in one of Duttys threads. You may get a better response. Also, try flashing a different rom

Thanks.
Since posting the message the problem has not come back.
I have been thinking that there is a possibility that my server was hacked, i noticed a few things had changed on the server, i also had notices when i logged in to facebook and paypal, informing me that someone from New York had accessed my account. the server and facebook used to have the same password.
Is it possible that the problem i had was caused by a hacker on my exchange server issuing a command to reset the device? i know it can do something like this to protect data in the event of a phone going missing.
what does the device do if exchange server performs this routine?

Please help me find this problem... i dont want to buy an Iphone!
Ok I tried a different Rom, this time i used one of KWBR's:
http://media.celogeek.com/roms/kwbr/..._5.7_Sense.rar
a month down the line and its just started to go wrong again.
this time, i find that the device slows down a little bit, prompting me to soft reset, when it boots i find that my contacts are missing, active sync will not load properly, it briefly flashes on screen but lower 1/3rd of active sync window is missing (appears transparent or black) only way to get contacts back and active sync working again is hard reset!
Anyone got any ideas what might be going on?
its been doing this now on both ROM's but i have no idea what may be causing it, as far as additional software i only install a few apps: Slimcontrol 1.5, Core player & GcZ2 (geocaching tool) which all have been running fine before.