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In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
krion64 said:
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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I'm running paranoid myself but the best advice I've read when people ask this question is try them all. What's best means to me might not be what it means to you. I've tried all three myself and they were all stable, I like paranoid because of the per app density feature it has. It was just updated again today btw. Motleys kernel is awesome I like the one without gpuoc. Good luck, happy flashing
Thanks for the advice. Also, I have another question for anybody who can answer. These three ROMs seem to be mostly similar in terms of features, so it's actually kind of hard telling the differences. So, what I'm trying to ask is, what sets each ROM apart?
krion64 said:
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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Does anyone know the answer to this? I used JR5, EOS now PA. They are all very similar, as you would expect. PA has more config options for setting up tablet UI which is key for me and the reason I use it currently (with Nova Launcher).
I liked JRX Roms as they have lots of apps inbuilt that the others dont, ie working Flash, GAPPS etc.
I'm also using Trinity kernel which is working great, again, I have not noticed much difference between them all.
Try them and take your pick
I say EOS with Mortley kernel
What are the major differences between stock android 4.2 and the CM10 ROM? What are the major reasons I`d flash cm10 on my N4 (or any other device) vs vs keeping the stock OS? Thanks in advance.
the features of cm10.1... read it and you can find the difference.
zephiK said:
the features of cm10.1... read it and you can find the difference.
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Where should I seek those?
frusso21 said:
Where should I seek those?
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Search for it.
find on youtube, etc.
flash it with franco kernel.
frusso21 said:
What are the major differences between stock android 4.2 and the CM10 ROM? What are the major reasons I`d flash cm10 on my N4 (or any other device) vs vs keeping the stock OS? Thanks in advance.
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Configurable LED notifications, configurable settings tiles, profiles, new options on the power menu, new options for the lock screen, allegedly better battery life, more configurable launcher and notifications bar... Those are just the ones that stand out in my mind this morning; there are many more features that I don't even notice or use.
Other than CM's signature features, will there be any speed improvements? CM10 sped up my arc like crazy, but I doubt it'll have the same effect on an (already) vanilla Nexus 4.
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frusso21 said:
Where should I seek those?
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http://www.cyanogenmod.org/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020859
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Another aspect oft CM ist that you can influence the developement quite easy according to your skills. They have an public accessible issue tracker (JIRA), where you can report bugs or suggest new features. They run a code review system (gerrit) where you can submit patches without even beeing a well known developer. If your patch is approved by the maintainers, it's in the git repository and will lands in your device when you install the next nightly.
Get involved!
If you're a flashaholic you will love the nightly builds. Your device improves day by day.
danguyf said:
Configurable LED notifications, configurable settings tiles, profiles, new options on the power menu, new options for the lock screen, allegedly better battery life, more configurable launcher and notifications bar... Those are just the ones that stand out in my mind this morning; there are many more features that I don't even notice or use.
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Who the hell told you that? I've not seen a single shred of evidence to suggest that the CM10 battery life is better than stock, or AOKP for that matter.
From what most people are reporting, the best battery life is achieved on stock, which unsurprisingly has been the case on most Android devices. CM7 had very poor on battery life on most Android devices, and CM10 has got a reputation for that too. I'm not saying CM10 doesn't have it's benefits because it truly does, and some of them are fantastic, but I reckon if you want good battery life stick with stock.
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That depends totally on the device. On galaxy s (i9000) cm9/10 battery life is ways better than stock (just my experience).
zaptac said:
That depends totally on the device. On galaxy s (i9000) cm9/10 battery life is ways better than stock (just my experience).
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Total bollocks that is. CM9 and CM10 had varying battery life on the i9000 but CM10 seemed to perform fairly poorly battery wise. CM9 was better but then again all ICS roms were better.
No Roms that aren't based on stock for i9000 are better battery wise than the original due to the well known 3G bug (google it if you need), so that is utter rubbish.
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Had a bad meal?
It's just my experience. You could be right as i use 3g quite few (most in WiFi covered areas).
No, but I just grew out of CM, in general, a few months back. It's fantastic software yes, it has tonnes of features yes, but the bugs, make it impractical, and there are bugs in CM.
I think it will be probably a few years before I give CM another chance.
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skezza said:
and there are bugs in CM.
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Surely, it's software
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Surely, it's software
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What is...?
skezza said:
No, but I just grew out of CM, in general, a few months back. It's fantastic software yes, it has tonnes of features yes, but the bugs, make it impractical, and there are bugs in CM.
I think it will be probably a few years before I give CM another chance.
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Then move a step forward. Try AOKP. It has much more than 'tonnes' of features and it will surely weigh much more than small bugs you may still see.
webharsh said:
Then move a step forward. Try AOKP. It has much more than 'tonnes' of features and it will surely weigh much more than small bugs you may still see.
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For anyone else who runs across this thread, there is a good comparison between AOKP and Cyanogenmod which also describes the features of each, here: http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/05/cyanogenmod-vs-aokp/
Also, OP, a 1 meg signature image? Really?
Ben
Please could someone explain what all this means on the Nexus 7?
I think I understand that Grouper is the wifi version and Tilapia is the 3g version but what are Vanir and Linaro? I noticed some roms say 'vanir' and some say 'linaro', what would the differences be on these? Is one better than the other?
Thanks
Tilapia is the Nexus 7 3G Code name.
Linaro is an Architecture as far as I know. (Open-sourced) [ARMv7 based?]
Vanir I haven't got a clue !!
Well, aside from Norse mythology, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanir), Vanir appears to be the name of a ROM, that has subsequently been renamed (dropping the Vanir part)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195386
Rgrds,
Ged.
Cheers guys :good:
One more question, is the stock rom built using Linaro or is Linaro a more improved way of doing things than what google uses for its AOSP builds?
Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, just trying to understand the benefits of using it. x
eggshaped said:
Cheers guys :good:
One more question, is the stock rom built using Linaro or is Linaro a more improved way of doing things than what google uses for its AOSP builds?
Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick, just trying to understand the benefits of using it. x
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You're asking perfectly good questions and that's what these forums are for! No linaro is not on stock ROMs, unless a developer rebuilds the OS with linaro optimizations. Linaro are android code modifications that speed things up and make it run more efficiently, vanir (which i am running now) is a type of rom that is very fast and is pretty good at using lower amounts of memory, its in a sense android on steroids. Hope this helped!
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Linaro - used in the context of Android dev ROMs - is at best a different compiler and related tools (assemblers, linkers, etc). See http://linaro.org
IMO there is little evidence that when it is used to compile the same sources (android kernel, applications, & libraries) that it produces anything but very minor differences in performance.
I'm willing to be corrected in my opinion based on actual data to the contrary, though.
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You're asking perfectly good questions and that's what these forums are for! No linaro is not on stock ROMs, unless a developer rebuilds the OS with linaro optimizations. Linaro are android code modifications that speed things up and make it run more efficiently, vanir (which i am running now) is a type of rom that is very fast and is pretty good at using lower amounts of memory, its in a sense android on steroids. Hope this helped!
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Thanks very much for all your help. It's starting to make sense to me now
Much appreciated.
im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.
There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.
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There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.
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thanks for the reply, i will look into both.. lmfao dirty unicorns
I like stock because it's stable, unlike most custom ROMs.
I'm running Exodus with no complaints. Smooth, problem free so far.
Stock.
Seriously though, no disrespect to all our great devs, but I haven't really felt much need to change much of anything from stock since Kit Kat came out. I used to use Xposed to change a few things here and there, but gave that up for the increased performance of the ART runtime once Kit Kat dropped. Stock Android is really great these days, and personally it's the main draw of a Nexus device. Properly optimized software released on or even ahead of Google's announcements, with the ability to build it easily yourself and restore your device from whatever shenanigans you've gotten it into; that's the Nexus experience.
That being said, I really enjoy optimizing performance as much as possible. A great rom for that is Flonaro, which is stock that's been optimized by building with the Linaro toolchain. Doing this properly is a challenge, but this is one that does it justice. Also, there are a ton of great kernels to choose from to take performance and often battery life to the next level. Franco kernel is awesome and I'm eagerly awaiting a Lollipop release. Check out ElementalX and Glitch kernel as well, flar2 and TK-Glitch are awesome devs that really pay attention to the users, and their kernels offer a ton of customization to balance performance and stamina. Just make sure you use only AOSP kernels on AOSP roms, there are alot of CAF-based roms and kernels as well (often referred to as CM variants, since CM clones Qualcomm's Code Aurora Forums repo rather than using pure AOSP as their base). Mixing a rom and kernel from these 2 different bases will not yield great results.
Welcome to the world of Flo!
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im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.
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As a Nexus Device ,Nexus 7 (2013) got so many options..I use Clean ROM (Stock ROM with lot of performance optimizations) & Paranoid Android (Mostly Stable).As You Know about Custom ROMS,I would suggest you try each ROM by using MultiROM Manager from Playstore..This App helps You to install any number of ROMS simultaneously.
I suggest You to try Paranoid Android as it has some good features without compromising on Performance
Xposed Framework is an awesome Tool which brings a lots of customizations of Custom ROMs in Stock Android.Also Check the XDA developer page of Nexus 7 (2013) to find more ROMS info
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I like stock because it's stable, unlike most custom ROMs.
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Actually most custom roms is solid nowadays.
Mine N7 has been on PA for three months and never goes wrong.
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Stock.
Seriously though, no disrespect to all our great devs, but I haven't really felt much need to change much of anything from stock since Kit Kat came out. I used to use Xposed to change a few things here and there, but gave that up for the increased performance of the ART runtime once Kit Kat dropped. Stock Android is really great these days, and personally it's the main draw of a Nexus device. Properly optimized software released on or even ahead of Google's announcements, with the ability to build it easily yourself and restore your device from whatever shenanigans you've gotten it into; that's the Nexus experience.
That being said, I really enjoy optimizing performance as much as possible. A great rom for that is Flonaro, which is stock that's been optimized by building with the Linaro toolchain. Doing this properly is a challenge, but this is one that does it justice. Also, there are a ton of great kernels to choose from to take performance and often battery life to the next level. Franco kernel is awesome and I'm eagerly awaiting a Lollipop release. Check out ElementalX and Glitch kernel as well, flar2 and TK-Glitch are awesome devs that really pay attention to the users, and their kernels offer a ton of customization to balance performance and stamina. Just make sure you use only AOSP kernels on AOSP roms, there are alot of CAF-based roms and kernels as well (often referred to as CM variants, since CM clones Qualcomm's Code Aurora Forums repo rather than using pure AOSP as their base). Mixing a rom and kernel from these 2 different bases will not yield great results.
Welcome to the world of Flo!
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Ty! will definitely take some time next weekend do do some tinkering.. i may go for now just clean rom/paranoid till i get re-educated on kernels ect.. its been nearly 4-5 years now since ive done this so appreciate the responses!
Yes I have got multirom installed. Stock as primary and cm11 and lollipop as secondary
Asap 4bra said:
im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.
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I have had very good results with CleanROM 3.8 and right now I'm testing the AOSP 5.0 by the same developer
[ROM][10/4][4.4.4]- CleanROM 3.8.0 -+| Performance Tuned! | Clean! | Stable!|+
[ROM / Build Guide][11/17][Flo/Deb] - Pure AOSP 5.0.0_r7 Build LRX21T
give em a try...
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I have had very good results with CleanROM 3.8 and right now I'm testing the AOSP 5.0 by the same developer
[ROM][10/4][4.4.4]- CleanROM 3.8.0 -+| Performance Tuned! | Clean! | Stable!|+
[ROM / Build Guide][11/17][Flo/Deb] - Pure AOSP 5.0.0_r7 Build LRX21T
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thanks bon!
I really can't recommend enough Mahdi with Glitch 226 AOSP kernel
Been running paranoid android on my nex7 for a year and a half now without any issues. Stable as can be. Use Franco's kernel for extra stability and you're all set. Either that or stick to stock lollipop. Can't really go wrong with either of those options.
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Agreed
andyskelly said:
There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.
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These are my favorites.
1. Liquid Smooth
2. Dirty Unicorns
Running KitKat + ElementalX AOSP (2.15) kernel.
Note: 3.xx ElementalX kernels are for Lollipop, so don't use them with KitKat.
There is no best Rom. Usually these threads are closed pretty quickly.
I'm surprised it's still here.
mindmajick said:
There is no best Rom. Usually these threads are closed pretty quickly.
I'm surprised it's still here.
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What can i say. Us Mods are only human, and even threads like this may slip through our keen grasp.
That said, what Mind says is right. There is no "best" ROM. Each is different; some adds customization, some focus on speed. There is no singular ROM that does it all. The best advice, is to try a few, and see which floats your boat, and go from there...
What's everyone's thoughts on Android O?
What roms do you want to try for Android O on your nexus 6p?
What kind of changes do You expect for custom roms for Android O?
Wozdoesitbest said:
What's everyone's thoughts on Android O?
What roms do you want to try for Android O on your nexus 6p?
What kind of changes do You expect for custom roms for Android O?
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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I definitely want to.Pure nexus on Android O
I just ordered. Some. Parts for. My computer I. Might put a rom together I used to do roms back in the day for. Droid Forums more specifically the Droid 2 Global
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I definitely want to.Pure nexus on Android O
I just ordered. Some. Parts for. My computer I. Might put a rom together I used to do roms back in the day for. Droid Forums more specifically the Droid 2 Global
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No one else has so is it even possible? Have Google released the source code and everything you need to make a build?
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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Yeah O looks all good. The notifications system keeps getting better.
V4A works fine on Nougat.
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Yeah O looks all good. The notifications system keeps getting better.
V4A works fine on Nougat.
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Awesome, I'd like someone to make that a mod for nougat! Quick question about making a build though. When I make a build and type mka bacon it will go on for at least a day and fails to make some targets and says try increasing the heap size because of the Jack server. Is 8gb ram not enough to build some or any roms? Thanks
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Awesome, I'd like someone to make that a mod for nougat! Quick question about making a build though. When I make a build and type mka bacon it will go on for at least a day and fails to make some targets and says try increasing the heap size because of the Jack server. Is 8gb ram not enough to build some or any roms? Thanks
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I've built with 4GB which is the minimum required. I'd suggest you have a look at the thread "Building PureNexus" in 6P Android Development subforum. You probably need to tweak some jack parameters and use cccache to speed up the build. Incremental build might get down to an hour or two.
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I've built with 4GB which is the minimum required. I'd suggest you have a look at the thread "Building PureNexus" in 6P Android Development subforum. You probably need to tweak some jack parameters and use cccache to speed up the build. Incremental build might get down to an hour or two.
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Okay thanks, I already did the ccache stuff and some Jack stuff but I'll look into it a bit. Thanks
I think it's too early for me to give an opinion. It isn't even in alpha yet. Seems stable for a dev preview is all I can really say at this point. I like where they're going with the sand boxing apps, no more shady apps draining battery like crazy *cough Facebook cough*
For me the battery life is brutal, cpu seems to get stuck at 1555 quite often. Tried going to a different governer but other than powersave they all seem to do that. Trying powersave with an input/touch boost to get rid of the lags at least.
Otherwise it is pretty good, I like where they are going.
It's a very early build to have a good judgement on Android O. The 3rd build would probably be a good indicator on what's going to be the future of android. Anything else is just a placebo effect.
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