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Out of these three ROM's, which is best?

In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6

krion64 said:
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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I'm running paranoid myself but the best advice I've read when people ask this question is try them all. What's best means to me might not be what it means to you. I've tried all three myself and they were all stable, I like paranoid because of the per app density feature it has. It was just updated again today btw. Motleys kernel is awesome I like the one without gpuoc. Good luck, happy flashing

Thanks for the advice. Also, I have another question for anybody who can answer. These three ROMs seem to be mostly similar in terms of features, so it's actually kind of hard telling the differences. So, what I'm trying to ask is, what sets each ROM apart?

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Does anyone know the answer to this? I used JR5, EOS now PA. They are all very similar, as you would expect. PA has more config options for setting up tablet UI which is key for me and the reason I use it currently (with Nova Launcher).
I liked JRX Roms as they have lots of apps inbuilt that the others dont, ie working Flash, GAPPS etc.
I'm also using Trinity kernel which is working great, again, I have not noticed much difference between them all.
Try them and take your pick

I say EOS with Mortley kernel

[Q] Is it worth using custom ROMs on the Nexus 4?

Why the need? Just for extra features? Is there any *perceivable* performance benefits when using custom ROMs?
EDIT: What about custom kernels + AOSP, any real improvement here?

You're the only one who can decide that. You already have stock, so the custom ROM's will only be giving you a (relatively) small set of added features, many of which can be duplicated with individual apps/mods. Performance benefits are debatable - a custom ROM will give you greater ability to tweak things and possibly speed it up, but on the flipside there's a greater likelihood of messing something up. In my case, the phone is already working as fast as I can imagine, so I'm not sure exactly what performance benefits I would see.
Note that rooting is a separate story, it does allow you to install mods that make the phone a better experience (battery circle as example).
edit: it could be worth installing a stock ROM that's been deodexed, allowing for more mods. I'm thinking about that.

personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.

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personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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huh...somehow I hadn't realized that, even though my phone's been vibrating away. That is an annoying bug.

CM has faster download speed on WiFi than stock
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Stock is no slouch.
Many AOSP ROMs are no slouch either.
I've come to rely on many of CM's features, so that's what I typically run. As a feature list gets longer, so does the potential bug list though. I've yet to experience a mission critical bug on any ROM I've daily driven; you can usually determine very quickly if a ROM promises a lot of bugs, or is the right one for you.

I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.

ceejay83 said:
I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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DITTO.

asawoszc said:
DITTO.
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When on AOSP, you flash ROMs for the features, the performance gain isn't noticible- ill be rolling stock rom and custom kernel

As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".

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As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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Most of the drivers here are open source. This is an AOSP phone! A built from AOSP will the same as your stock rom.
Besides that there are some niceties of the Qualcom chipset which are under lock&key and proprietary. Some custom kernel's replace these with open source alternatives. (Franco & Faux for example). But as far as I can tell these guys are in the business of stability :good:

Ok, so I've had my Nexus 4 for 2-3 weeks, I'm very impressed.
Though I'm missing some of the little tweaks I used to have when I used CM10.1 on my old phone.
Things I'm concerned about on CM:-
Battery performance
Video decoding compatibility/performance
Camera performance
Can anyone who has experience advise if there any noticeable differences between stock and CM regarding these points?

First one I don't know since I don't run cm.
The rest will be the same as stock. Unlike your old phone ( probably). Cm doesn't have to do any hackery to get things like the camera to work on a officially supported nexus device.

Coming from CM on both the i9000 and the S3, it works flawless on my N4.
I don't notice any performance changes with either CM or AOKP, but I've come to rely on their added features. I also have a custom kernel (franco)...not sure the performance has changed with that either, but battery life is definitely improved.

Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.

I guess they just want go promote Google Now with it since it opens that by default.
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Custom kernel - Yeah I notice a big difference between franco and stock (roughly double the battery life for my use case.)
Custom rom - The big thing for me was getting control of my volumes, stock you can't set a separate volume for notifications and ringtones but with AOKP I can. Outside of that though I don't notice much difference but I also picked the least different rom.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
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Google seems to always leave things in a state of perpetual "beta", I've also noticed that they like to break things and instead of fixing them they take the attitude of "that's how it is now and it's better".
Fortunately they also release phones like the n4 that allows people to hack the crap out of it so some very smart people can fix those mistakes.

Currently the best custom rom?

any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?

italia0101 said:
any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
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It really depends what you're looking for in a ROM. There are a lot of different ROMs that are currently available depending on what you want. Whether it's a stock feel (AOSP ROMs), customizability (AOKP, PA), CM10 of course, and more. I highly doubt anyone has tried all of the ROMs that are out there so go into the dev sections and do some reading and see what you like! :good:

Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.

The best custom ROM for me is CM 10.1's nightly builds. The best custom Kernel for me is franco.Kernel. Both together = awesome (for me)

Thanks guys . I realise its a subjective view but thanks for replying
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Whatever ROM you choose, I second using Franco kernel :good:

I've been running a CM10.1 nightly with no custom kernel, its been pretty solid. I might have to check out Franco's kernel though, I'd like to try out undervolting for better battery life and heat at some point.

brGabriel said:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
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I've always understood this, but never really knew where to look. Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.

As others have stated, this is very subjective. For example, I'd recommend AOKP. Not because it's the best per se, but because it's the one I'm using and I'm quite happy with it.

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Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
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There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.

brGabriel said:
This is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?

dust. said:
Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
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I honestly couldn't tell you since I don't own an OTG cable but you can flash franco's kernel and test it. If it doesn't work just reflash the ROM (without wiping) and you'll revert to the original kernel without losing any of your apps and data.

brGabriel said:
There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.

Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Personal preference. Nothing more

Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Seems to be by far the best kernel for dealing with the throttling issue that exists with our device so far...

Installed aokp . loving it.
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At this point, I've gotta give it to AOKP. Lots of customizability and very smooth and quick. Rotating 180 degrees has no noticeable lag for me.

Paranoid Android is one of my all time favs in order to maximize your tablet space by altering app DPIs etc (not that you need to with a tablet this large). MMuzzy's ROM is a nice AOSP replacement which is what I'm on currently. As far as kernels go, it's really up to personal preference. I'm on KTManta (ktoonservative) and it flies though sometimes I get the lockscreen (black) of death - not waking up from lockscreen. I bought Franco's app ages ago before I got a tablet and can vouch that he also builds a strong/stable kernel.
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If anyones interested i made a AOKP video http://youtu.be/VNxdhF-nvec

[Q] Which rom are you using and why?

Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?

jyouri said:
Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?
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Stock, because all the ROMs I've tried have been buggy and don't offer a great deal of additional functionality. I do have high hopes for PA though, once thier multi-window is finished. I have rooted the tablet though, mainly for the aosp browser.

I haven't had any real bugs with CM and PA, but AOKP has some weird theming bugs with settings not taking.
I use Pacman, which has CM, PA, and AOKP... All in one package.
KTManta kernel is hands-down my favorite kernel, as well.

PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.

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PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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PA is nice and a great ROM, but if you need performance, sadly, it sucks. I haven't tried the latest build with halo, but on 3.15 the performance is really bad on games.

I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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Mmuzzy's rom. Close to stock, rooted, with a couple little tweaks. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071082

Rasbeanjelly + franco.Kernel
Not a ton of customization, lightweight, fast and optimized. And can use the same combination across all my devices (N4, N7, and N10).
I never used PA, but have heard quite a few reports of it being somewhat on the worse-side for performance.

Carbon ROM, felt the smoothest for me and had all the customizations I needed. A second for me would be Sentinel ROM. I guess it depends on what your main preference is. If its AOSP (stock), PA, cyanogen, or AOKP. They all offer something different. The best way is try a ROM and see if you are comfortable with the usage of that ROM. Also Kernel can also help play a role in your ROM choice.

I use the last RasSaber build, dont know where it is available anymore though. It gives me enough of the customization that I want, a nice built in theme, and very smooth performance with great battery life. For kernel I use the KTManta kernel because it offers the best battery life through undervolting and also gives me the best performance. Lots of fun options with it if your into that sort of thing.

Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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I like EOS ROM + Trinity kernel for outstanding performance and just the right amount of features I need.
But rasbeanjelly, RasSaber, Sabermod, and Sentinel are all top notch in my book.

purmou said:
I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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And by PA you guys are reffering to Paranandroid right?

So would you recommend sticking to rooted stock rom? Is that stablet enough for Battery/Gaming/OverallPerformance

You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.

EniGmA1987 said:
You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.
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Except for the sound settings being broken, PACman has plenty of features.
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Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
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Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber

EniGmA1987 said:
Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber
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What should I check it with? I'm up for it
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I prefer AOKP PUB builds.

Discussion: TouchWiz 4.1.2 vs. Android 4.3

Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell

I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.

@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?

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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/​
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.

Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like

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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....

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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.

Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.