Out of these three ROM's, which is best? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6

krion64 said:
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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I'm running paranoid myself but the best advice I've read when people ask this question is try them all. What's best means to me might not be what it means to you. I've tried all three myself and they were all stable, I like paranoid because of the per app density feature it has. It was just updated again today btw. Motleys kernel is awesome I like the one without gpuoc. Good luck, happy flashing

Thanks for the advice. Also, I have another question for anybody who can answer. These three ROMs seem to be mostly similar in terms of features, so it's actually kind of hard telling the differences. So, what I'm trying to ask is, what sets each ROM apart?

krion64 said:
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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Does anyone know the answer to this? I used JR5, EOS now PA. They are all very similar, as you would expect. PA has more config options for setting up tablet UI which is key for me and the reason I use it currently (with Nova Launcher).
I liked JRX Roms as they have lots of apps inbuilt that the others dont, ie working Flash, GAPPS etc.
I'm also using Trinity kernel which is working great, again, I have not noticed much difference between them all.
Try them and take your pick

I say EOS with Mortley kernel

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ics rom issues

so ive been runnning ics roms for awhile now (since one of the first functioning cm9 builds were out), and im not new to flashing. but im a little unsure what i should be running that will fit my needs the best. im running slimics 3.7 right now with its stock kernel, and its great, if you get rid of their 'stock launcher' and change the screen settings, i just feel like i could be getting more. ive heard wonderful things about dark knights rom, but havent had a good experience and i dont know if its due to me flashing improperly. i started out on icssgs and it did me well....i just find slim a but of a step above (my opinion of course). but i find slim releases their updates before many apps become available to it. im just a regular user, i use facebook and web alot, and of course text, and camera, i also desire as much battery life as possible (of course) while running the best performance with what i need. Are there any suggestions for me out there for a rom/kernel combination?
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
powerdams said:
Hi,
Did you already try MNICS kernel with SlimICS ?
I've got the best user experience with this combo.
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+1.....mnics is a great basic kernel designed for everyday use, with a specially tweaked conservative governor for smooth ui experience, and good battery too
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Currently the best custom rom?

any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
italia0101 said:
any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
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It really depends what you're looking for in a ROM. There are a lot of different ROMs that are currently available depending on what you want. Whether it's a stock feel (AOSP ROMs), customizability (AOKP, PA), CM10 of course, and more. I highly doubt anyone has tried all of the ROMs that are out there so go into the dev sections and do some reading and see what you like! :good:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
The best custom ROM for me is CM 10.1's nightly builds. The best custom Kernel for me is franco.Kernel. Both together = awesome (for me)
Thanks guys . I realise its a subjective view but thanks for replying
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Whatever ROM you choose, I second using Franco kernel :good:
I've been running a CM10.1 nightly with no custom kernel, its been pretty solid. I might have to check out Franco's kernel though, I'd like to try out undervolting for better battery life and heat at some point.
brGabriel said:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
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I've always understood this, but never really knew where to look. Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
As others have stated, this is very subjective. For example, I'd recommend AOKP. Not because it's the best per se, but because it's the one I'm using and I'm quite happy with it.
scottws said:
Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
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There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
brGabriel said:
This is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
dust. said:
Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
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I honestly couldn't tell you since I don't own an OTG cable but you can flash franco's kernel and test it. If it doesn't work just reflash the ROM (without wiping) and you'll revert to the original kernel without losing any of your apps and data.
brGabriel said:
There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Personal preference. Nothing more
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Seems to be by far the best kernel for dealing with the throttling issue that exists with our device so far...
Installed aokp . loving it.
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At this point, I've gotta give it to AOKP. Lots of customizability and very smooth and quick. Rotating 180 degrees has no noticeable lag for me.
Paranoid Android is one of my all time favs in order to maximize your tablet space by altering app DPIs etc (not that you need to with a tablet this large). MMuzzy's ROM is a nice AOSP replacement which is what I'm on currently. As far as kernels go, it's really up to personal preference. I'm on KTManta (ktoonservative) and it flies though sometimes I get the lockscreen (black) of death - not waking up from lockscreen. I bought Franco's app ages ago before I got a tablet and can vouch that he also builds a strong/stable kernel.
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If anyones interested i made a AOKP video http://youtu.be/VNxdhF-nvec

[Q] Optimal Setup for Nexus 4?

Hi!
I got my Nexus 4 three days ago.
My Usage Specs -
I use my N4 mainly for internet ( WiFi, sometimes 2G ) and a little bit of gaming. I make occasional calls and text rarely.
I don't use WhatsApp or Facebook.
I'm using STOCK ROM+Kernel.
I'm getting around 10-12 hours of battery life, with 4-5 hours of screen-on time.
Now, I want to be able to over/under clock & volt my CPU+GPU. This is to increase battery life and increase performance, as required.
It looks like too much choice is very confusing. So, I'd like some experienced suggestions and recommendations.
So, which _ should I use? ( And, I've already narrowed down the choices a bit )
Kernel - Faux, Motley, Franco
ROM - AOSP(Stock), CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, Xylon
Also, should I use Battery, CPU, RAM managers? If so, which ones?
What are some cool, useful N4 specific apps?
Any other tweaks and tips? - You can link to other xda threads, if available.
I will be unlocking and rooting tomorrow, once I decide which kernel+ROM to use.
Thanks!
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
scream4cheese said:
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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That's cleared up some of my doubt. Thanks!
I'll try out greenify, too.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Hi,
I understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Hi,
understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
One okialot
brandonc0526 said:
I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
arvindch said:
Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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scream4cheese said:
Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
arvindch said:
Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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Okay, thanks. I'll experiment a bit, and see how it goes.
I've used PA before, on a HTC One V. It looks great, IMO too,
Try the matrix kernal
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HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
arvindch said:
HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
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Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
sigma392 said:
Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
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Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
sigma392 said:
Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
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I think I'll use the normal ones.
My internet speed is 4 Mbps and I don't use my WiFi to transfer files at all.
At the moment I'm getting the speeds I can technically get. So those won't help me, I guess.
Also, I've been running R140 without any problems for the last day.
Thanks!
I Am Marino said:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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They're pretty much the same really. But Matr1x does wonders in benchmarks. I would love to use it however I need those Prima Drivers badly :S

Stock but looking to change

I'm on stock 4.2.2 at the minute but I've rooted / unlocked the bootloader. What I want to know is which ROM(s) / kernel(s) would be best to improve battery life but also add additional features? I know everyone will have their preferences but there's quite a few ROMs out there and I don't have lots of time to reflash over and over so I'd like to know which ROMs and kernels are generally considered as the best for additional features and battery life.
Thank you.
FTMDan said:
I'm on stock 4.2.2 at the minute but I've rooted / unlocked the bootloader. What I want to know is which ROM(s) / kernel(s) would be best to improve battery life but also add additional features? I know everyone will have their preferences but there's quite a few ROMs out there and I don't have lots of time to reflash over and over so I'd like to know which ROMs and kernels are generally considered as the best for additional features and battery life.
Thank you.
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Lots of good rom`s and kernels available. You have to try them out yourself and keep the one`s you like most
I was thinking of flashing Franco's kernel and staying on stock. How do you find it?
The best ROM and kernel is what YOU like the best. This will be closed in 3 2......
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I was thinking of flashing Franco's kernel and staying on stock. How do you find it?
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For me it works great. Good batterylife, color/gamma control and performance :good:
While most people will tell you that ytou have to find out for your own because everyone is diffferent. Thats true, however it looks like your are asking for our personal opinion.
Paranoid Android hands down. The most innovative ROM out right now. Other have now started to inlcude some of their features in their roms, so that tells you a lot.
Cyanogen- This WAS the most innovative ROM before PA, its still however the most stable when it comes to bugs and tweaks.
AOKP or Carbon These 2 roms are awesome however Carbon is made from CM i believe with their own twist and tweaks.
Thats my take on it, howver take a look at this article, its a great read on the top Roms and why.
The kernel matters most for battery life. Franco kernel is the best one I've tried for battery life. Stock rom or cyanogenmod seems to be a tiny bit better for battery life but honestly it might just be a placebo effect. What I do like about cyanogenmod is the fact that you can adjust the auto-brightness levels of the screen. So if you want a dimmer version of auto-brightness you can do it and save battery life.

[Q] Are there any disadvantages of "All in 1" style ROM's?

Hi guys, I am currently on AOSPA 3.60 ROM and think its a great ROM love the per app control I have and it seems to run very very smooth, I notice little to no bugs.
However I like the all in one style idea that would give me an extra level of customisation by being able to use AOKP and CM tweaks.
But is there any disadvantage of basically having 3 ROM's in one? does this cause issues with overlapping settings? are there more bugs? do things run slower?
Basically tossing up whether I want to stick with PA which is rock solid for me or go to an all in one ROM for those extra settings and tweaks?
Cheers
Chris
I have never had great luck with the roms that combine too many features because they seem to start to lag after just a couple days and some of the settings menus don't work exactly right. You should definitely check it out to formulate your own opinion though.
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I've found the best stability in roms that pick a flavor and stick with it, while most do incorporate *some* features from popular roms, the unstable ones tend to be the ones that try to incorporate everything but the kitchen sink.
For example, SlimBean is based off AOSP (android open source project), but does incorporate some things like the kernel from cyanogenmod on certain devices.
the more crap, the more bugs(and chances for bugs).
Thank you guys, I guess I might have to give one a try and if there are to many bugs then revert back to PA
Might be irrelevant or just plain unlucky for me, but with PAC, Revolt, Xylon, etc I've had worse battery than say AOKP or Dirty Unicorns. So maybe battery what with all the extra things having to run and going on would be affected
Speed, meh. All feels the same to me
Bugs, definitely more in the all-in-one's
Stability, depends...
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