I used to always disable all permissions from Google Play Services (depending on the ROM's capabilities, with or without xposed, etc). From location and keeping device awake, to downright preventing wakelocks and disallowing specific processes.
Recently I started allowing Google Services just to check out how Google progressed over time with Google Now and other stuff. And also because certain ROMs I like are no longer xposed compatible (and lack CM's privacy tool), such as OmniROM.
The difference is marginal, at best. Sometimes it is not felt at all, as far as battery life is concerned. Google stuff are ALL on, from Voice on every screen, to location services, and WiFi location scanning, and all activities on as well. Battery is almost not affected.
Thus is relevant to 6.0.1 of course. On Lollipop Google stuff are battery whores.
What do you think?
I switched to microG GmsCore and the battery life improved noticeably. No more unnecessary memory hogs as well.
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Hi, would like to hear an opinion on this combination I'm trying of Greenify + BatteryGuru + Wifi Matic .
There is a reason why I use them three. the Greenify as you know focus on hibernating apps, but can't hibernate Google apps like Music, Currents and such, so there comes the BatteryGuru that controls mainly on Google apps sync, but I've noticed that BattaryGuru's wifi management isn't that effective, so there comes Wifi-Matic, which in it description, claims to manage wifi only based on cell towers ("minimize usage of resources and battery"), and so far it works great, really learning the the cell towers around where I connect to wifi, and when I leave the area it turn it off.
What do you guys think, anyone tried it already?
My main concern is that if I use so many apps meant to save battery, that it won't eventually consume more..
Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?
I tried searching Google for battery drain related to Play Services. Up until my phone had official KitKat, even with CM11, the battery drain from play services was never this horrendous (about 36% battery usage).
The only thing I could find besides version 4.4 was the "fix" for battery drain related to location was that some Sony devices, upon upgrading to KitKat, suffered similar problems with battery.
I've come to the conclusion the RAZR HD/MAXX HD suffer from the same issue.
Downloading BetterBatteryStats I found when GPS was the only way of doing location services, the battery drain is ~1% an hour. When I had high accuracy or battery savings mode, the drain was ~3.5% an hour. This is the EXACT issue that the Xperia devices are suffering from.
So, for all those on KitKat who are experiencing battery drain, try switching to Device Only. This will utilize only GPS satellites to determine location. You will lose location based stuff in Google Now, suck as traffic or weather but your battery will last much longer.
I looked through and didn't see anything about this in any other thread, so I decided to make a new one. Hopefully Google updates Play Services to be a bit more friendly with LTE and WiFi location settings soon (I'm looking at you, I/O).
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Another potential way around this is possibly using the Greenify app, if you're rooted. You'll also have to donate ($2.99 USD) but it's well worth it if you ask me. I actually used my Amazon Coins to donate that way.
With a donated version, you can hibernate system apps, but you have to be careful because hibernating certain system apps could cause other apps to no longer work (which is easy to fix - just unhibernate them). But, this is different from freezing apps. Freezing an app means you've disabled it. What Greenify does is prevent the phone from starting up apps when the screen is off (wake lock). But, you can launch the app yourself and it will fire up (albeit maybe a little slower since it wasn't pre-loaded) and then when the screen goes back off, Greenify will hibernate the apps again.
This is another way to stop apps from firing up when you're not using your phone. I've noticed Google Play services going nuts one time. A reboot cured it, but I wasn't sure what apps would have been using it. I've since Greenified some regular apps and I haven't seen it happen again.
But, Greenify is definitely something to look at. The non-donation version only allows you to greenify non-system apps, but even for those, it works really well.
You can get it at Google Play or at Amazon App store.
I haven't got issues with battery drain at the moment but I bookmarked this link of reddit and maybe it help you.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1zxri4/google_play_services_battery_drain_the_real/
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I believe I read that thread, too. It is helpful to understand that Google Now is really what's killing the battery. I've noticed that the battery life is one again incredible on my phone after changing to device only. This allows me to still use navigation if necessary and also allows my weather extension in DashClock to work because the one I installed allows the phone to read GPS location instead of relying on my network location. So for now while I lose traffic updates and weather updates through the Google search app, it's not SO bad. I seriously hope they modify the number of times that Google pings for your location or figure out how to cause less drain on the battery, because I find the location stuff incredibly useful at times.
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Looking through the time line today saw this thread and remembered this app. Hopefully its helpfull
Hello everybody, I'm, as many others, afftected to the infamous nlpcollectorewakelock, that I'm deseprately tryng to fix. I was kind of successful for while on PAC rom using the built in wakelock killer functionality. Recentely though I switched so slimkat, and I really loke the rom but it's missing the builtin wakelock killer. So I tried other solutions.
I disabled location reporting and history from location settings, I disabled in Apps Ops X, the permission to wakelock and location to google play services and google framework. and doing this I had no luck, the infamous wakelock is still there killing my battery. I also tried installing Disable services app from playstore and disabled
NpllocationService and Location reporting service, even this doesn't seem to work perfectly. I have less battery drain but I still see the wakelock as the 1st source of battery drain in betterbatterystats and wakelock detector and also it broke completely googlemaps not able to use GPS. (I was naturally expecting the network location not work, but now not even gps works in google maps). I can successfully get a lock in GpsStats and waze but not in google maps. I think I'm really doing something wrong and I would really like to solve this....any advice? Thank you
Not sure if I have an unreasonable expectation here or not. All my location-based apps are having issues lately where they think I'm somewhere I'm not (ie in or out of a particular geofence). I have the highest accuracy setting (wifi, mobile, gps) and I don't have mock locations enabled. When I look at google maps and hone in on any time when I'm stationary, particularly at home, it has my all over the place around my house, although not nearly as bad as the apps think.
I'm on the latest update, but my wife has held off on even going to nougat and she has similar issues.
The apps in particular are stringify, ifttt, smartthings, and sound profile.
Are we alone on this? Or does anyone have any suggestions on things we can do to help?
I had this issue and turning location services to just gps seems to have fixed it. It was really bad prior on both MM and Nougat, navigation regardless of app was near useless.
Navigation works great though. Just these apps that rely on geofences are having issues. And, for some of them, they require you to be on more than just gps (smartthings in particular does this)