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Maps GPS at the top of battery drain?? Insight needed*

My N4 hasn't had good battery life compared to my GNex and its noticeable. I used Google now on the Gnex and I got like close to 3 hours or more of screen on give or take with the 2000mah extended battery depending on what i was doing with 25% brightness most of the time. But on my N4 with Google now I got like barely 2 hours at like 20% brightness which doesn't' make much sense seeing that the battery in the N4 is larger. So I decided to turn off Google now since I don't really use it and now I get a little over 2 and a half hours sometimes more. I'm guessing that's cause Google now isn't updating and all that cause I turned off all the location services and GPS except the "wifi &mobile network location" for certain apps or widgets and stuff. This is all leading up to my question. How or why maps is at the top of my battery usage and why it says its using GPS when I have it off? It never was at the top before the android OS or screen was there. Now I get better battery life but still the screen isn't the top drainer which is odd. Does anyone have any insight? Cause I can only imagine the battery life I could get out of this if everything worked properly. Cause idk if its a bad code thing or hardware.
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Turn off WiFi under location access

But then I wont get any location data for certain apps or widgets. And that was never a problem on th GNex. Is that really the only option i would have?

If you have not done so, signin to navigation at least once.
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If you have not done so, signin to navigation at least once.
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Ok I did cause i haven't yet and i had to turn on GPS to do so. But now im back out i turned off GPS. What would doing that do exactly? If you dont mind elaborating?

If you never went through that step, some apps that request location will never get it and will keep sending requests draining the battery.
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I have signed in but google maps is still my top battery drain even when I haven't used it at all. Anything else that could be causing this?

Could be some widget or app that put location data like any weather widget for example.
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Is this a documented fact or something you came up with on your own? I am just wondering because Google Now does not work properly on my phone but it worked great on my Gnex.

Well I guess maps has a bug or its badly coded because like you guys said you still get the battery drain even when you seem to turn location stuff off. Well i did the same I have no Google now activated and it was a little better but id still get maps and it would even say the GPS was on for like hours in it on the GSam battery app So I just decided to force close Maps and since then I have no issue maps isnt even on the GSam radar and my battery life is much better I Can get 3 hours screen time with 15% brightness pretty easy and more if im not doing intensive stuff. Im hoping better code for Jellybeen or maps will come out soon to even make this higher or actually let me use maps and google now without such the drain.
Also I found that when I went to use Maps for directions the GPS getting "stuck" issue would come back so id have to force close to get that to stop and it seems that some apps that use GPS get stuck even though I switch it off like Gas Buddy which looks for gas around your location I tried it and turned on GPS then off when i was done and when i checked GSam it was at the top of my list because the GPS was stuck on and even force closing the app wouldnt shut it off so I had to uninstall and reinstall to stop it. I think it was just that it wasnt coded for 4.1.2 well so hopefully all those bugs will get worked out in the future. Hope this helps someone!

Not documented, but I have personally have 3 n4s map battery drain fixed this way. I heard here on xda, tried, and worked. So there are at least 4 people fixed this way. Of course, this is probably not the only battery bug/optimization issue in 4.2.1.
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Make sure you're not signed in to Latitude, it's a killer.

Go to Google Maps > Settings > Location, and disable "Location reporting".

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Go to Google Maps > Settings > Location, and disable "Location reporting".
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what they said. this is a huge + for why maps is being used. wished google disabled this from the start so people wouldnt mistaken the phone for having 'poor battery life'

same issue! battery usage as GPS
I'm actually having the same issue (i know this is old)
All my settings are correct, even with force closing the app (GPS and Facebook sometimes) the battery usage will be #1, and the GPS on time under details will be constantly ticking. As I refresh the battery usage, the GPS timer will continue to go up.
Only way I figured to solve this is to reboot my phone.. anyone else experiencing similar issues?

I did! I just noticed this problem in the last 2 days and I found this post.
Does google know about this problem? Will there any patch release for this bug?

I can confirm the same thing with this gps issue.
There's a bug report filed. Vote for it to make it more visible to devs.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=52236&q=Gps%20usage%20when%20off&sort=-id&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars

Experiencing it both on Google stock 4.3 Galaxy Nexus and Slim Bean 4.3 Nexus 4. Battery stats show GPS running under Google maps after switching GPS off using quick settings tile, after switching off location services in phone settings and even after switching off location in Google settings app. Only reboot stops good usage in battery stats.
This is very annoying. Have anybody fixed it? Any advice appreciated.

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Well I guess maps has a bug or its badly coded because like you guys said you still get the battery drain even when you seem to turn location stuff off. Well i did the same I have no Google now activated and it was a little better but id still get maps and it would even say the GPS was on for like hours in it on the GSam battery app So I just decided to force close Maps and since then I have no issue maps isnt even on the GSam radar and my battery life is much better I Can get 3 hours screen time with 15% brightness pretty easy and more if im not doing intensive stuff. Im hoping better code for Jellybeen or maps will come out soon to even make this higher or actually let me use maps and google now without such the drain.
Also I found that when I went to use Maps for directions the GPS getting "stuck" issue would come back so id have to force close to get that to stop and it seems that some apps that use GPS get stuck even though I switch it off like Gas Buddy which looks for gas around your location I tried it and turned on GPS then off when i was done and when i checked GSam it was at the top of my list because the GPS was stuck on and even force closing the app wouldnt shut it off so I had to uninstall and reinstall to stop it. I think it was just that it wasnt coded for 4.1.2 well so hopefully all those bugs will get worked out in the future. Hope this helps someone!
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You have exactly the same finding of mine (although I may have better punctuation)
The GPS is stuck on even when you killed the map and turn OFF the GPS in the settings already.
And you are right, every app that use the GPS can have this "bug". (I used Yelp a lot and battery status always shows that its GPS usage is on even after I turned off GPS)
In GSAM battery monitor it does not show a high usage though, I guess it does not actually drain battery.
And this issue is still appearing in Android 4.3 with Google map 7.2.0

Android OS eating my battery up..why?

Hello everyone...
so I got the S4 about a week and a half ago and I really love it. When I first got it the battery life was great and the screen was the top killer of my battery as expected. But over the past 4 days the android os has been taking up 65% of my battery. I feel like it might be an app but then why would an app show under android os? Anyone have ideas or tip?

That happened to me on a custom rom, but not on stock. Which are you on?

I am on stock I have not rooted it as of yet.

I'd personally recommend rooting and then installing both Greenify and Better Battery Stats. Most likely it's an app running in the background and/or waking your phone up. A couple common things to watch out for:
- What are your location settings in both Maps and Facebook? Both are notorious for waking your phone up (sometimes 100 times per hour) to repeatedly report your location. If they are set to report from your device, I would turn location off and see if it fixes your battery issue.
- Google Now (to a lesser extent that Facebook and Maps) tends to search for your location as well. I personally turn Google Now off.

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I'd personally recommend rooting and then installing both Greenify and Better Battery Stats. Most likely it's an app running in the background and/or waking your phone up. A couple common things to watch out for:
- What are your location settings in both Maps and Facebook? Both are notorious for waking your phone up (sometimes 100 times per hour) to repeatedly report your location. If they are set to report from your device, I would turn location off and see if it fixes your battery issue.
- Google Now (to a lesser extent that Facebook and Maps) tends to search for your location as well. I personally turn Google Now off.
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Thanks for the help, i will try that...but would both of those things show up under Android OS?

i think it is normal if you do not use your phone usually , android os should is the opera system of you smart phone.

Google Services draining battery?

So, I'm rooted on VZW with no OTA and suddenly had abnormal battery drain today. Any idea why this may be happening?

Mine is kinda high today as well. I saw something about Google having issues today with email and other applications. This could be related, or phones can't connect to Google so it just keeps on trying.
Sounds nice but don't know if it's true or not.
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Install Greenify. Hibernate all the APPs that you don't want notification from first. This app doesn't allow APPs to Wakelock you're phone. Once you find which offending account is the issue you'll be ok. I found that Facebook woke up my phone thousands of times and I have up notifications. Best choice ever ?
This app requires root and free in the app store.
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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
As far as the google services battery drain, I eliminated that by simply turning off google location services. The actual GPS is so quick to lock that I haven't run into a scenario yet where I'd absolutely need to turn it back on.

My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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With 15:34 for time on, and 1:45 of screen on time, I'm currently at exactly 50% battery. I feel it was something awry with Google Services yesterday and an isolated issue. Location services were off today, but I did nothing with Greenify, yet at least.

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Greenify can't touch system apps to my knowledge but yes, it is an excellent solution for rogue apps that take up resources when they shouldn't. :good:
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Yeah I had the same problem, yesterday. I was having Google services use ~60% of battery life. Surprisingly I still got all day battery life.
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Donate version is able to greenify system apps.
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Didn't know that but knowledge is good! :good:

shekinahsmoke said:
My location services are off. Doesnt seem to help me much. I also bought donation greenify and greenfied Google Play services and Google Play Store
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How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.

iowabowtech said:
How is that working? Considering doing the same as I've already tried removing the sytem app and replacing with Play Services from the play store. That seemed to work for a few days but the nip wake locks are worse than ever right now. Killing the otherwise stellar battery.
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works great today..... google services error has gone away today and my battery life seems longer. :good:

I just froze google play services and will look at the battery stats later to report the difference. What apps are affected by freezing this though? It seems Hangouts is one.

I don't know why, but all my days are pretty much exactly the same location-wise and some days have huge wakelocks, others don't.
Aside from installing the play store services which seemed to help quite a bit, I've also noticed a nice drop in wakelocks since I went on to Google's Location History dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard?hl=en) and deleted all my history so maybe it could re-create it.
One thing I've noticed is that on high-wakelock days, my GPS is going nutso. My point markers on that dashboard will have me moving ALL OVER the place, even while I'm just sitting at my desk at work.
This leads me to the conclusion that signal plays a huge role, and I do have bad signal at work (1 bar, and can't get a good GPS lock at my desk).
Also, you can minimize these wakelocks without the use of Greenify by simply turning off Location Reporting and Location Using WiFi and Mobile Networks. This dropped my wakelocks to pretty much 0, immediately. But you'll lose things like weather widget geolocation and some Google Now features. On the other hand, this is a more viable option than freezing services which can cause you to lose push notifications for GMail among other things.

I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.

iowabowtech said:
I've been messing with this throughout the day today and the problem is high NIP wakelocks originating from Google Services...specifically the Network Location process. So the fix for me appears to be disabling newtork location while leaving GPS location enabled. This is usally the reverse of how I do things but for this phone, it may be the better solution. Google Now is still working for me, as is maps/navigation. There may be some casualties of disabling newtwork location but I haven't run across them yet. I've always viewed these two options as coarse (network) vs.fine (gps) location. So I'm hoping GPS picks up the slack and I don't lose any functionality. What I could see happening is that it just takes longer for location to be confirmed because network location is faster. I'll take that in lieu of battery drain however.
Still need to run like this for a couple days to see how things go but I was getting hundreds and even thousands of NIP wakelocks in a run cycle prior to disabling network location. I'm now getting zero.
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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.

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I believe disabling network location will disable Google Now location cards, such as weather or places.
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You are correct, there's the first casualty confirmed. I'm going to run like this for a few days and see what gives. I don't use the cards anyway so no issue there. If anyone knows of other functionality loss, please speak up.

Like some of you have said, I don't rely on Google Now cards, and I don't leave the city I'm in, so for things like weather, I am find with the hourly syncing of my weather app. If I do need GPS/location services, it's not hard to toggle and battery life is incredible. I feel it was just something going rogue the other day. Today, with locaiton off, I've been off the charger for 15:34 with 1:24 screen on time and I'm at 58%. I spent a good portion of today in a sub-basement on airplane mode, with wifi active in the background though. Walking around campus, I used Songza via 4G due to some wifi weak spots. I can't be happier with this phone, as my GNex would have long since been dead, even on airplane mode.
EDIT: Holy ****, 15:34 sounded familiar, checked my post from yesterday, I responded then at the same time off the charger...

Okay so I may have fixed it on my phone.
I forced closed "Google Play Services" and "Google Devices Framework" then rebooted.
Google services was using it 50% of battery consistently through the day and now its down to using 2% of battery. I'll come back at the end of the day with battery stats.
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this night was a pain.... the phone was on 83 and when i wake it was on 76..... google services was draining all my battery, who could fix this?

[Q] Bad Battery?

Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.

You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

Vepaot said:
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.

As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?

[Q] Android OS high battery use, no apparent wake locks

All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.

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All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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My phone still says it's awake all the time and Google play services is using the Lions share of my battery, however I am getting about 2 days out of my battery like I used to before this problem. It's annoying, but I don't think it's that bad. You can try disabling those 2 receivers with auto run manager like I did but if your battery is even worse after that I would just re-enable them and leave it.

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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
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The phone was bought off as the last one on the store. Worten, in Portugal. So it was a demo phone. I have no idea, for how long the phone was plugged in to the charger, being demo'ed. I am afraid the batttery has lost some of it's power. Nonetheless, i will use it for a few days and then return it for warranty if i don't think it's in prime condition...
Also, i had an HTC HD2 with custom rom, then moved to a Galaxy S2 with a custom rom as well (AOSP 4.4.2 with Cyanogen) and now i am using the stock LG rom. I can't say exactly that it sucks, but for sure i prefer the stock AOSP experience with the right tweeks.

Well, a patently I got 6:55, and 33 hours of phone usage on my first experience with the car phone. I used 3g, wife, and web browsing. I don't know if it's good, but I highly doubt it...